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The Lawyer's Escape Pod

Megan Smiley interviews recovering lawyers, career advisors, and other professionals for advice and inspiration on transitioning out of law practice.

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Ilana Gotlib tells us how pursuing an interest, networking, and a blessing in disguise led her out of litigation and into health care business

Ilana Gotlib tells us how pursuing an interest, networking, and a blessing in disguise led her out of litigation and into health care business

Ilana Gotlib is a former litigator who transitioned into business (specifically health care business) after leaving law ... Read more

14 Oct 2019

1hr

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Jacquette Timmons tells us how to understand our relationship with money, take control, and master finances to create the future we want

Jacquette Timmons tells us how to understand our relationship with money, take control, and master finances to create the future we want

Today’s episode is a little different. Instead of speaking with a lawyer, we’re going to speak with Jacquette Timmons, a... Read more

1 Oct 2019

42mins

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Rachel Solomon leaves litigation to pursue storytelling: first as a freelance writer, then as a novelist, and ultimately through brand creation at her own firm

Rachel Solomon leaves litigation to pursue storytelling: first as a freelance writer, then as a novelist, and ultimately through brand creation at her own firm

My guest today is Rachel Solomon, who is the Founder and Creative Director at Honor Code Creative, a branding company th... Read more

19 Nov 2019

45mins

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Melissa Lorenzo-Herve tells us how she ditched big law for a dual career in legal publishing and fashion

Melissa Lorenzo-Herve tells us how she ditched big law for a dual career in legal publishing and fashion

Melissa Lorenzo-Herve is a Senior Attorney Editor at the Practical Law Company (a division of Thompson Reuters), as well... Read more

7 Nov 2019

36mins

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Shari Dunn leaves legal aid and policy work to pursue a dream of TV journalism, then pivots again to non-profit management

Shari Dunn leaves legal aid and policy work to pursue a dream of TV journalism, then pivots again to non-profit management

Shari Dunn is currently the Executive Director for Dress for Success Oregon. But, she’s had a pretty wild ride getting t... Read more

22 Oct 2019

40mins

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Adam Oliver tries multiple law firms and practice areas before leaving practice to run his own legal recruiting company

Adam Oliver tries multiple law firms and practice areas before leaving practice to run his own legal recruiting company

Adam Oliver is the Managing Director of Firm Prospects, which offers data-driven market intelligence for legal search pr... Read more

10 Dec 2019

46mins

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Christina Ward leaves corporate law to become a wedding photographer

Christina Ward leaves corporate law to become a wedding photographer

Christina Ward is a corporate lawyer turned professional wedding photographer. Christina tells us about the challenges o... Read more

23 Sep 2019

51mins

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Jonathan Laubinger has no regrets about leaving practice before he even started for a career as an actuary

Jonathan Laubinger has no regrets about leaving practice before he even started for a career as an actuary

Jonathan Laubinger is an actuary at Argonaut Insurance Company. Jon earned his JD/MBA thinking he’d go into politics or ... Read more

3 Dec 2019

39mins

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Jen Kash talks about the burnout that comes with 3500 billable hour years, how she left the firm to get healthy, and starting her second act in the Caribbean

Jen Kash talks about the burnout that comes with 3500 billable hour years, how she left the firm to get healthy, and starting her second act in the Caribbean

Jen Kash is a former partner at Quinn Emanuel in San Francisco, where she practiced for nearly two decades. But the year... Read more

17 Sep 2019

32mins

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Rebecca Dussich leaves law firm life to jump into politics after the 2016 election

Rebecca Dussich leaves law firm life to jump into politics after the 2016 election

Rebecca Dussich practiced as a litigation associate in Cincinnati after law school. But shortly after she started, the 2... Read more

9 Sep 2019

38mins

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Jonathan Liu leaves employment law to become a real estate agent and investor

Jonathan Liu leaves employment law to become a real estate agent and investor

Jonathan Liu is a realtor at H&M Realty Group and President of Res Ipsa Real Estate Solutions. As his company name h... Read more

25 Nov 2019

35mins

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Adam Friedl tells us how he transitioned from public interest law to software engineering

Adam Friedl tells us how he transitioned from public interest law to software engineering

Adam Friedl spent many years practicing in various public interest organizations. One of these organizations was a non-p... Read more

12 Nov 2019

30mins

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Chris Gillett leaves litigation to become a headshot photographer

Chris Gillett leaves litigation to become a headshot photographer

After nearly two decades in litigation practice, Chris Gillett took his hobby of photography and grew it to a full-time ... Read more

25 Feb 2020

45mins

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Josh Ferguson leaves legislative practice to be a stay-at-home dad

Josh Ferguson leaves legislative practice to be a stay-at-home dad

My guest today is Josh Ferguson, a Research Consultant at Common Good, a government reform think tank. Josh practiced at... Read more

11 Feb 2020

29mins

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Angela Han tells us how she built a dual career in law and health coaching

Angela Han tells us how she built a dual career in law and health coaching

Angela Han is Corporate Counsel at HealthPro Heritage, runs her own company, Angela Han Health, and hosts the podcast Fi... Read more

3 Feb 2020

40mins

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Travis Hornsby tells us how to break free from the student loan albatross

Travis Hornsby tells us how to break free from the student loan albatross

Travis Hornsby is a Chartered Financial Analyst and the founder of Student Loan Planner, a company that helps analyze th... Read more

27 Jan 2020

52mins

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Clara Jung leans into her impulsivity and leaves litigation to build her own interior design firm

Clara Jung leans into her impulsivity and leaves litigation to build her own interior design firm

After almost 5 years in litigation practice, Clara Jung found herself dissatisfied with practicing and considering her n... Read more

20 Jan 2020

32mins

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Annie Little helps rid us of lawyer-brain and get on the path to a happier career

Annie Little helps rid us of lawyer-brain and get on the path to a happier career

Today's guest is Annie Little. She is a former lawyer, and now a career coach specializing in coaching lawyers. Annie wa... Read more

13 Jan 2020

56mins

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Year-End Wrap-Up and Top 6 Lessons (I know it should be 5 or 10, but 6 is what I’ve got)

Year-End Wrap-Up and Top 6 Lessons (I know it should be 5 or 10, but 6 is what I’ve got)

This mini episode is a quick season/year-end wrap-up. I wanted to thank you all for listening. It's been great hearing f... Read more

16 Dec 2019

6mins

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