Maia Szalavitz

This week, the girls talk to Maia Szalavitz; a neuroscience journalist and author of the New York Times bestseller, Unbroken Brain: A Revolutionary New Way of Understanding Addiction. Maia specializes in covering the intersection between brain and behavior and how social factors like inequality get under the skin. She is the author or co-author of six other books and writes for major publications including the Guardian, TIME, the New York Times, Scientific American Mind, the Washington Post, VICE and Pacific Standard.

Episode 119: Maia Szalavitz

The episode where the girls talk about their favorite things right now (books, music, tech, news apps, self-care), but first, talk about the Enneagram and Instagram for an hour.

Episode 118: Favorite Thingstagram

Happy New Year! If the best part about 2018 is that it means 2017 is over, that's enough. In this even-longer-than-usual episode, the girls check-in on their love, sobriety, work, and home lives and do a little hoping and wishing for 2018.

Episode 117: Happy-ish-Mostly New Year

Jeff DeFlavio

In the last episode of 2017, Jeff DeFlavio returns to HOME. Jeff is the founder and CEO of Groups, a company that provides affordable, modernized treatment for opiate use. This episode is a mashup of talk about the opiate epidemic, politics, keeping focus and heart when the battle is so big, and some book reviews (wherein Jeff mistakes Hillbilly Elegy for Dreamland for most of the episode), and more.

Episode 116: Jeff DeFlavio Returns

Laura and Holly met the Hawkins sisters (Janet and Julie) at a workshop. When they began telling their story, Laura and Holly immediately asked them to come on the show. In this episode, the sisters beautifully and candidly share their family's story of drinking addiction, their individual and overlapping journeys to sobriety, and the complicated mix of feelings that they've each experienced along the way.

Episode 115: The Hawkins Sisters

In this episode, the girls respond to two letters. The first, from a new mom who's worried about how much she's been drinking in the first months of her baby's life while breastfeeding, and the second from a girl grieving the loss of two long friends that don't support her new sobriety. This episode is about the let downs: things we think we "should" be able to do, like choose people we love over alcohol, and the ways our relationships change despite us wishing they wouldn't.

Episode 114: The Let Down Reflex

Allison Micco

This week the girls talk to Allison Micco about the "A" word: anxiety. Like so many people, Allison struggled with anxiety long before she knew what it was and at a certain point assumed it was a fault of hers or just something she'd have to learn to contend with forever. In college, she was prescribed a medication to cope with it that she later became addicted to and after years of searching and frustration, she finally got to the root of her anxiety, including its connection to alcohol. Allison shares her story and provides incredible insight into a condition that's so widely misunderstood and downplayed in society.

Episode 113: Allison Micco & Anxiety

Kate Northrup

This week, the girls talk to Kate Northrup. Kate is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, mother, and activist. She's the author of Money: A Love Story, is currently writing her second book, and her work has been featured everywhere from The Today Show to Glamour magazine. The girls talk about privilege, the personal responsibility of activism, the surprising wakeup of motherhood, and the power of seeing our energy, work, and bodies as cyclical. Kate is such a fresh, real, powerful voice and she shares herself so honestly in this episode.More about Kate and her work can be found at www.katenorthrup.com.

This week, the girls talk to Kate Northrup. Kate is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, mother, and activist. She's the author of Money: A Love Story, is currently writing her second book, and her work has been featured everywhere from The Today Show to Glamour magazine. The girls talk about privilege, the personal responsibility of activism, the surprising wakeup of motherhood, and the power of seeing our energy, work, and bodies as cyclical. Kate is such a fresh, real, powerful voice and she shares herself so honestly in this episode. More about Kate and her work can be found at <a href="http://www.katenorthrup.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.katenorthrup.com</a>.

Episode 112: Kate Northrup

It's the 111th episode of HOME, recorded on 11/11! In this ep, the girls mix it up and ask each other 11 random questions from Danielle LaPorte's "Conversation Starters" app. Some answers are full of light and love, and some not so much.

Episode 111: Conversation Starters

In this ep, the girls catch up on their love lives, sobriety, home life and work, including a tricky discussion about serving alcohol at parties (or not), lessons that just keep repeating themselves and digging less chaos.

Episode 110: HoLo HEYYYYYYY

HOME Podcast with Laura McKowen and Holly Whitaker takes up the big questions of life through the lens of addiction recovery. Each week, we explore a new discussion about our hearts, relationships, life, love and the universe at large.Intro and outro music by Radiation City.

Super drunk and laughing at the reviews rn.

Have a drink guys!

So good! Wish they were still recording...Holly and Laura, come back home!

Love!

HOME Podcast with Laura McKowen and Holly Whitaker takes up the big questions of life through the lens of addiction recovery. Each week, we explore a new discussion about our hearts, relationships, life, love and the universe at large. Intro and outro music by Radiation City.

HOME Podcast

"Hell is other people" -Jean-Paul Sartre. In this episode, Laura and Holly talk straight about one of the hardest parts about getting sober: other people. They walk through the most challenging, frustrating and downright confusing reactions, interactions, and conversations they had as they were trying to get sober and stay that way.

Episode 73: Hell Is Other People

Holly and Laura talk about the weird, glorious, difficult, out-of-body, out-of-mind time that was the first 100 days of sobriety. They recap what life was like the week before and the week after their final quit dates, what it was like learning to walk on new legs in a new world, and a few memories that most stand out from that time.

Episode 88: The First 100 Days

In this episode, the girls talk to Jolene Park, a functional nutritionist, and an expert in the craving brain. They talk about the intricate connections between anxiety, depression, trauma, nutrition, addiction, relationships and more. Jolene is a goldmine of experience and resources, and she's got a compelling personal story to back it up. What's more, Jolene's personal story is common, but not often heard: successful woman approaching middle-age comes to terms with closing the window on her idealized image of a family and marriage, and, in the process, develops an unhealthy but 'high-bottom' relationship with alcohol. In the discussion, she bravely shares her story for the first time in a public way.Jolene is the Founder of Healthy Discoveries, where she coaches companies and individuals develop a more complete view of well-being.More about Jolene and Health Discoveries here: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com

In this episode, the girls talk to Jolene Park, a functional nutritionist, and an expert in the craving brain. They talk about the intricate connections between anxiety, depression, trauma, nutrition, addiction, relationships and more. Jolene is a goldmine of experience and resources, and she's got a compelling personal story to back it up. What's more, Jolene's personal story is common, but not often heard: successful woman approaching middle-age comes to terms with closing the window on her idealized image of a family and marriage, and, in the process, develops an unhealthy but 'high-bottom' relationship with alcohol. In the discussion, she bravely shares her story for the first time in a public way. Jolene is the Founder of Healthy Discoveries, where she coaches companies and individuals develop a more complete view of well-being. More about Jolene and Health Discoveries here: <a href="http://www.healthydiscoveries.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.healthydiscoveries.com</a>

Episode 62: The Craving Brain

In the second episode of HOME, Laura interviews Holly to string together her story. The drinking story, the life story, the David Byrne-esque "How Did I Get Here?" story.Music by Radiation City.

In the second episode of HOME, Laura interviews Holly to string together her story. The drinking story, the life story, the David Byrne-esque "How Did I Get Here?" story. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 3: Who is Holly?

In this episode, the girls give their top tips for getting started in sobriety. From meditation to sweating to talking to God, they talk about what worked for them and what they've seen work for others in the first days.

Episode 107: How To Begin

Annie Grace

Laura and Holly talk with Annie Grace, author of “This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol. Find Freedom, Rediscovery Happiness and Change Your Life?” Sounds like everything, right?Annie’s story is like so many young, successful, professional women, but her path to sobriety was not. We talk about her drinking life, what drove her to write this book and her hopes for the way we treat and view addiction. We dig into some heated topics like the difference between “normal” drinkers and “addicts,” the label of “alcoholic,” and the importance of addressing the grey area in addiction. Holly and Annie also confess their mutual girl crushes.“This Naked Mind” is available on Amazon.Music by Radiation City.

Laura and Holly talk with Annie Grace, author of “This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol. Find Freedom, Rediscovery Happiness and Change Your Life?” Sounds like everything, right? Annie’s story is like so many young, successful, professional women, but her path to sobriety was not. We talk about her drinking life, what drove her to write this book and her hopes for the way we treat and view addiction. We dig into some heated topics like the difference between “normal” drinkers and “addicts,” the label of “alcoholic,” and the importance of addressing the grey area in addiction. Holly and Annie also confess their mutual girl crushes. “This Naked Mind” is available on Amazon. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 26: Annie Grace

Glennon Doyle Melton

The sound on this one is a bit rough, guys. It was the second take (listen to hear the story of that madness) and the girls forgot to ask Glennon to put in her headphones, Craig is vacuuming in the background, and everyone's voices are a little...excited. What can we say? Perfectly imperfect.In this episode, they talk about Glennon's new book, Love Warrior, getting angry, sobriety, rock bottoms, faith, depression, and sisterhood.Glennon Doyle Melton is the New York Times Bestselling author of Carry On, Warrior and most recently, Love Warrior. She's the founder of Momastery and also, Together Rising, a non-profit that grew from Momastery to provide financial support to women in need.

The sound on this one is a bit rough, guys. It was the second take (listen to hear the story of that madness) and the girls forgot to ask Glennon to put in her headphones, Craig is vacuuming in the background, and everyone's voices are a little...excited. What can we say? Perfectly imperfect. In this episode, they talk about Glennon's new book, Love Warrior, getting angry, sobriety, rock bottoms, faith, depression, and sisterhood. Glennon Doyle Melton is the New York Times Bestselling author of Carry On, Warrior and most recently, Love Warrior. She's the founder of Momastery and also, Together Rising, a non-profit that grew from Momastery to provide financial support to women in need.

Episode 56: Glennon Doyle Melton

Do we keep the same playmates in sobriety? In this episode, Holly and Laura break down their experience with friendships, and how they changed (or didn't) once the booze was gone. Music by Radiation City.

Do we keep the same playmates in sobriety? In this episode, Holly and Laura break down their experience with friendships, and how they changed (or didn't) once the booze was gone. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 4: Friendship

Holly and Laura break down steps 1-3 of AA in this longer-than-usual episode. They each answer these questions: what's your interpretation of the step, did you do it, and do you think it's necessary for recovery? What this episode is NOT: a debate about AA!Music by Radiation City.

Holly and Laura break down steps 1-3 of AA in this longer-than-usual episode. They each answer these questions: what's your interpretation of the step, did you do it, and do you think it's necessary for recovery? What this episode is NOT: a debate about AA! Music by Radiation City.

Episode 5: The Steps Series, v1 of 4

Augusten Burroughs

They say don't ever meet your heroes, but in this case, they turned out to be wrong! Augusten Burroughs is the author of ten books, including NYT Bestseller-turned-movie "Running with Scissors," "Dry," which tracks his journey through addiction and sobriety "This is How," his foray into self-help and his most recent memoir (released TODAY!), "Lust and Wonder."He talks with the girls about his new book, moving out of NYC, finding the capital T Truth, sobriety, his feelings about AA, and the day he started writing instead of drinking.Music by Radiation City.

They say don't ever meet your heroes, but in this case, they turned out to be wrong! Augusten Burroughs is the author of ten books, including NYT Bestseller-turned-movie "Running with Scissors," "Dry," which tracks his journey through addiction and sobriety "This is How," his foray into self-help and his most recent memoir (released TODAY!), "Lust and Wonder." He talks with the girls about his new book, moving out of NYC, finding the capital T Truth, sobriety, his feelings about AA, and the day he started writing instead of drinking. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 38: Augusten Burroughs

Sarah Roberts

This week, the girls talk to Sarah Roberts, author of The 28 Day Kick The Sugar Challenge and author of the popular blog, SarahTalksFood.com. Laura, Holly and their right-hand woman on HOME, Megan, all did the Challenge and they talk to Sarah about their different experiences. Sarah shares her story of addiction and recovery and how she was led to her current work, which is to help people see the powerful connection between what they eat and how they feel.

This week, the girls talk to Sarah Roberts, author of The 28 Day Kick The Sugar Challenge and author of the popular blog, <a href="http://SarahTalksFood.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SarahTalksFood.com</a>. Laura, Holly and their right-hand woman on HOME, Megan, all did the Challenge and they talk to Sarah about their different experiences. Sarah shares her story of addiction and recovery and how she was led to her current work, which is to help people see the powerful connection between what they eat and how they feel.

Episode 72: Sarah Roberts & Sugar

A common belief our society has about sobriety is that it's boring, sad, and ultimately...uncool. The girls address this from their own perspectives, including what their beliefs about sobriety were before they stopped drinking, how and when that perception shifted, and how they feel about it now. Although the episode is titled "uncool" it's about so much more. It's about how to navigate doing something that society doesn't largely support, how to deal with breaking tribal expectations and norms, and how to navigate the period of groundlessness that inevitably occurs when we begin living for ourselves.

Episode 61: Uncool

In this week's show, the girls take a long, in-depth and candid walk through the evolution of Laura's relationship with AA: her beliefs when she started, how it's evolved, and where she stands now at nearly three years sober.

Episode 103: AA-volution

Perhaps the most difficult aspect in overcoming addiction is shame. In this episode, the girls talk about the pervasiveness of shame and how it shaped their lives, how it played into their drinking, and how they learned to work with it. Laura talks about the particular shame of being a mother who drank, and how she's coped with that in sobriety.Music by Radiation City.

Perhaps the most difficult aspect in overcoming addiction is shame. In this episode, the girls talk about the pervasiveness of shame and how it shaped their lives, how it played into their drinking, and how they learned to work with it. Laura talks about the particular shame of being a mother who drank, and how she's coped with that in sobriety. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 43: Shame

This could be called the breakthrough episode. It's not the topic of sex, or heartache, or blackouts, or shame the girls have been most afraid to talk about, but MONEY. In this episode, Meadow DeVor joins them to break it down. Having recovered from her own financial bottom of being over half a million dollars in debt (while coaching people about money!), she talks about her own story and the *mindblowing* subject of Money Sobriety, her personal recovery, and coaches the girls through their own limiting beliefs.Meadow is the author of Money Love, a master life coach and the founder of Yoga Church. She speaks, writes and coaches extensively on the topics of money, trauma, yoga and healing.More about her and Yoga Church can be found on www.MeadowDeVor.com.Music by Radiation City.

This could be called the breakthrough episode. It's not the topic of sex, or heartache, or blackouts, or shame the girls have been most afraid to talk about, but MONEY. In this episode, Meadow DeVor joins them to break it down. Having recovered from her own financial bottom of being over half a million dollars in debt (while coaching people about money!), she talks about her own story and the *mindblowing* subject of Money Sobriety, her personal recovery, and coaches the girls through their own limiting beliefs. Meadow is the author of Money Love, a master life coach and the founder of Yoga Church. She speaks, writes and coaches extensively on the topics of money, trauma, yoga and healing. More about her and Yoga Church can be found on <a href="http://www.MeadowDeVor.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.MeadowDeVor.com</a>. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 51: Money Sobriety with Meadow DeVor

Sarah Hepola

In the first interview episode ever, Laura and Holly talk to Sarah Hepola, author of the New York Times Bestseller "Blackout: Remembering The Things I Drank to Forget." Sarah's essays on culture have appeared in the New York Times Magazine, Elle, The New Republic, Glamour, The Guardian, Slate, The Morning News, and Salon, where she was a longtime editor. Laura and Holly talk to her about the science of blackouts, what it was like to come out to the masses, dating in sobriety, and what's next.Photo credit: Zan Keith. Music by Radiation City.

In the first interview episode ever, Laura and Holly talk to Sarah Hepola, author of the New York Times Bestseller "Blackout: Remembering The Things I Drank to Forget." Sarah's essays on culture have appeared in the New York Times Magazine, Elle, The New Republic, Glamour, The Guardian, Slate, The Morning News, and Salon, where she was a longtime editor. Laura and Holly talk to her about the science of blackouts, what it was like to come out to the masses, dating in sobriety, and what's next. Photo credit: Zan Keith. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 21: Sarah Hepola

Aidan Donnelley Rowley

This week, the girls talk to their friend and novelist, Aidan Donnelley Rowley. Aidan is an NYC-based mama of three, who quit her job as a lawyer in her 20's and decided to pursue writing. In 2011, Aidan started bravely questioning her relationship with alcohol on her blog, Ivy League Insecurities, where she documented "A Year Without Wine." She talks to the girls about this, and the winding path that ultimately led her to choose sobriety last year, as well as family, grief, writing, anxiety and the importance of following your heart, even when you're unsure where the path will lead.

Episode 79: Aidan Donnelley Rowley

Ugh. "Relapse." What do we do when we fall off the path and drink when we're trying to get and stay sober? Holly and Laura break down what relapse means to them, what it looked like on their own paths, and what they did about it.Music by Radiation City.

Ugh. "Relapse." What do we do when we fall off the path and drink when we're trying to get and stay sober? Holly and Laura break down what relapse means to them, what it looked like on their own paths, and what they did about it. Music by Radiation City.

Episode 12: "Relapse"

Holly and Laura riff on random subjects including feeling un/worthy, obsessing about men (aka "Laura's Second Sobriety"), and the evolution of introversion. Holly also tricks Laura into talking about their relationship dreams.

Episode 80: Worthy Obsessed Introverts

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