Kate Fagan

Kathryn and Kate open up about the inner workings of their relationship while Kate wrote her latest book, ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT, and the pair brings on Kate’s mom while the show is rolling. (Oh, oh, and many jokes are had about the size of Kate’s ego!)

Kathryn and Kate open up about the inner workings of their relationship while Kate wrote her latest book, ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT, and the pair brings on Kate’s mom while the show is rolling. (Oh, oh, and many jokes are had about the size of Kate’s ego!)

ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT with Kate Fagan

Leone Ross

Welcome to world of Popisho! Kate and Kathryn muse about magic, and why and when we lose our connection with it, then author Leone Ross (POPISHO) reassures Kathryn to stick to her magical guns. Leone shares what her “cors” (magical ability) would be, how to return to the flow of creativity, permission to understand strangeness, and by the end of the show, has Kathryn and Producer Lindsay in tears. Oh, and get ready to learn about pum pums.

Welcome to world of Popisho! Kate and Kathryn muse about magic, and why and when we lose our connection with it, then author Leone Ross (POPISHO) reassures Kathryn to stick to her magical guns. Leone shares what her “cors” (magical ability) would be, how to return to the flow of creativity, permission to understand strangeness, and by the end of the show, has Kathryn and Producer Lindsay in tears. Oh, and get ready to learn about pum pums.

POPISHO with LEONE ROSS

Rebecca Serle

And today … we have the NYT bestselling author of IN FIVE YEARS, Rebecca Serle! Rebecca chats about the difference in writing for the page vs. the silver screen, writing as a means to figure out your life, and why she is focusing on being present for success. Kathryn and Kate open with a comedy of errors on astrological signs.

And today … we have the NYT bestselling author of IN FIVE YEARS, Rebecca Serle! Rebecca chats about the difference in writing for the page vs. the silver screen, writing as a means to figure out your life, and why she is focusing on being present for success. Kathryn and Kate open with a comedy of errors on astrological signs.

IN FIVE YEARS with REBECCA SERLE

Kate and Kathryn are shocked to discover they have a blind spot related to ice cream (they ask for listener feedback!), then they welcome Sarah Penner — author of the debut NYT bestseller THE LOST APOTHECARY — a page-turning novel set between modern day London and 1791 about a woman who secretly dispenses poisons to liberate women from the men who have wronged them.

Kate and Kathryn are shocked to discover they have a blind spot related to ice cream (they ask for listener feedback!), then they welcome Sarah Penner — author of the debut NYT bestseller THE LOST APOTHECARY — a page-turning novel set between modern day London and 1791 about a woman who secretly dispenses poisons to liberate women from the men who have wronged them.

THE LOST APOTHECARY with SARAH PENNER

Ellery Lloyd

Kate and Kathryn have a mind meld about what their joint pen name would be, then the duo chats with British married author duo Ellery Lloyd (whose debut novel PEOPLE LIKE HER is like Gone Girl with a momstagram account!) about writing with your partner and how they gleaned all their smart insights about social media.

Kate and Kathryn have a mind meld about what their joint pen name would be, then the duo chats with British married author duo Ellery Lloyd (whose debut novel PEOPLE LIKE HER is like Gone Girl with a momstagram account!) about writing with your partner and how they gleaned all their smart insights about social media.

PEOPLE LIKE COOKIES with ELLERY LLOYD

Natalie Haynes

Kathryn quizzes Kate on the mythical origins of some well-known idioms (spill the beans, anyone?), then the duo are joined by BBC host and bestselling author Natalie Haynes (A THOUSAND SHIPS) who shares why the classics are for EVERYONE! 

Kathryn quizzes Kate on the mythical origins of some well-known idioms (spill the beans, anyone?), then the duo are joined by BBC host and bestselling author Natalie Haynes (A THOUSAND SHIPS) who shares why the classics are for EVERYONE!

 A THOUSAND COOKIES with NATALIE HAYNES

ELLIE EATON

Kate and Kathryn plumb the mysteries of the allure of novels set at boarding schools with Ellie Eaton, debut author of THE DIVINES. The trio also discusses what motivates Ellie to sit down and write, and how, in England, your accent (posh!) reveals a whole lot about you. Oh, plus, K&amp;K discuss their takeaway from the Pixar movie, Soul

Kate and Kathryn plumb the mysteries of the allure of novels set at boarding schools with Ellie Eaton, debut author of THE DIVINES. The trio also discusses what motivates Ellie to sit down and write, and how, in England, your accent (posh!) reveals a whole lot about you. Oh, plus, K&amp;K discuss their takeaway from the Pixar movie, Soul

DIVINE COOKIES with ELLIE EATON

Luvvie Ajayi

Luvvie, goddess of cheekbones, truth and jollof is in the house and she’s here to talk about her newest book, PROFESSIONAL TROUBLE MAKER: THE FEAR-FIGHTER MANUAL. We discuss what it means to fail loudly, speaking truth, being human, the fear of success, and most importantly, why everyone needs their own hype mantra.

Luvvie, goddess of cheekbones, truth and jollof is in the house and she’s here to talk about her newest book, PROFESSIONAL TROUBLE MAKER: THE FEAR-FIGHTER MANUAL. We discuss what it means to fail loudly, speaking truth, being human, the fear of success, and most importantly, why everyone needs their own hype mantra.

PROFESSIONAL TROUBLEMAKER with LUVVIE AJAYI JONES

Genevieve Gornichec

THEY’RE BACK for Season ... 4? Kate and KB sit down with debut author Genevieve Gornichec to talk about writing an epic saga, Kathryn and Genevieve’s mutual love for Norse mythology, should YOU watch Vikings, and what it means to be a Nordic Re-enactor, plus Kate hits Kathryn with the list of Free Cookies notes they built up during the off-season.

THEY’RE BACK for Season ... 4? Kate and KB sit down with debut author Genevieve Gornichec to talk about writing an epic saga, Kathryn and Genevieve’s mutual love for Norse mythology, should YOU watch Vikings, and what it means to be a Nordic Re-enactor, plus Kate hits Kathryn with the list of Free Cookies notes they built up during the off-season.

THE WITCH’S HEART with Genevieve Gornichec

Emily M. Danforth

In this year’s Free Cookies finale (🎉), Kate and Kathryn are joined by Emily M. Danforth — author of PLAIN BAD HEROINES and THE MISEDUCATION OF CAMERON POST — to discuss the inspiration for her ambitious new novel and how every creative project has its own timetable.

In this year’s Free Cookies finale (🎉), Kate and Kathryn are joined by Emily M. Danforth — author of PLAIN BAD HEROINES and THE MISEDUCATION OF CAMERON POST — to discuss the inspiration for her ambitious new novel and how every creative project has its own timetable.

PLAIN BAD COOKIES WITH EMILY M. DANFORTH

A humorous podcast by Kate Fagan and Kathryn Budig filled with thoughtful conversations ... and offering delicious takeaways.

I just binged three interviews on a Sunday morning with my coffee. These podcast sessions are deep conversations with two thoughtful women. Kate and Kathryn’s passion for the subject matter is infectious and their passion for each other is adorable and pure. What a gift to podcasts listeners!

Good Conversation

Just wanted to say that I am a HUGE fan of Free Cookies!!! I listen to this podcast all the time and I recommend it to everyone! Sometimes I wait a few weeks so that I have multiple episodes to listen to because binge-listening to this podcast is way more satisfying than a tv show binge :D

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Free Cookies

Esther Perel

The episode you’ve all been waiting for: Sex! Infidelity! Marriage! Kathryn and Kate welcome Esther Perel, renowned sex and relationship therapist, who offers awesome insight into the evolution of monogamy, as well as the paralyzation that comes with too many choices. Plus, K&amp;K TRY to have an open discussion about sex and some listeners share their relationship with sex.

The episode you’ve all been waiting for: Sex! Infidelity! Marriage! Kathryn and Kate welcome Esther Perel, renowned sex and relationship therapist, who offers awesome insight into the evolution of monogamy, as well as the paralyzation that comes with too many choices. Plus, K&amp;K TRY to have an open discussion about sex and some listeners share their relationship with sex.

SEX, LIES and COOKIES with ESTHER PEREL

Glennon Doyle

 Kate and Kathryn are back and they are CHEETAHS! And they’ve brought with them the funny and brilliant Glennon Doyle, author of UNTAMED, her brand new #1 NYT memoir/manifesto filled with insights. 

Kate and Kathryn are back and they are CHEETAHS! And they’ve brought with them the funny and brilliant Glennon Doyle, author of UNTAMED, her brand new #1 NYT memoir/manifesto filled with insights.

Untamed Cookies with Glennon Doyle

In the final episode of Season 2, K&amp;K breakdown their excitement (and concerns) over their upcoming nuptials. Plus, Kate tries to explain why she called their dog, Ashi, an asshole. 

In the final episode of Season 2, K&amp;K breakdown their excitement (and concerns) over their upcoming nuptials. Plus, Kate tries to explain why she called their dog, Ashi, an asshole.

'TIL COOKIES DO US PART

Kathryn blends her love of mythology with Kate’s love of lists to produce the ultimate Mythological Monsters Quiz. Then, in keeping with Pride month, the pair tackles an issue that hits very close to home. Finally, K + K welcome a dear friend, Ash Cebulka, a life coach who drops wisdom on “core values.” 

Kathryn blends her love of mythology with Kate’s love of lists to produce the ultimate Mythological Monsters Quiz. Then, in keeping with Pride month, the pair tackles an issue that hits very close to home. Finally, K + K welcome a dear friend, Ash Cebulka, a life coach who drops wisdom on “core values.”

RAINBOW COOKIES: MISGENDERING, MYTHOLOGICAL MONSTERS QUIZ + LIFE COACH ASHLEY CEBULKA

Tony Reali

Kate Fagan's obsession with lists continues as she permits one new cookie add to her "Standard Cookie List." Also, Kathryn Budig makes a startling admission. Plus, Around the Horn host Tony Reali opens up about his family, life and more.

<blockquote>Kate Fagan's obsession with lists continues as she permits one new cookie add to her "Standard Cookie List." Also, Kathryn Budig makes a startling admission. Plus, Around the Horn host Tony Reali opens up about his family, life and more.</blockquote>

RAW SUGAR with ESPN'S TONY REALI 

Tamal Dodge

K&amp;K are joined by Victoria and Tamal Dodge, whose new book, The Yoga Plate, has hit shelves. The group talks about judgement-free veganism, “doing the least harm”, and everything from the wolves in Yellowstone to Gandhi. 

K&amp;K are joined by Victoria and Tamal Dodge, whose new book, The Yoga Plate, has hit shelves. The group talks about judgement-free veganism, “doing the least harm”, and everything from the wolves in Yellowstone to Gandhi.

Plated Cookies with Victoria and Tamal Dodge

Misty Copeland, the first African American Female Principle Dancer with the American Ballet Theatre, joins Free Cookies. She shatters the archaic ideals of what ballet should look like, talks about the mental and physical struggles of being an elite performer, and shares the ultimate secret: is ballet really like Black Swan?! Kathryn and Kate tackle a few revealing questions from the Proust Questionnaire and finish up with Kate reading some pretty epic pages from Kathryn’s childhood diary.

Misty Copeland, the first African American Female Principle Dancer with the American Ballet Theatre, joins Free Cookies. She shatters the archaic ideals of what ballet should look like, talks about the mental and physical struggles of being an elite performer, and shares the ultimate secret: is ballet really like Black Swan?! Kathryn and Kate tackle a few revealing questions from the Proust Questionnaire and finish up with Kate reading some pretty epic pages from Kathryn’s childhood diary.

COOKIES ON POINTE with MISTY COPELAND

Kira Stokes

 K&amp;K are joined by Kira Stokes, founder of The Stoked Method, and Kira reveals that she obsesses over transitions (just like Kate in writing! Just like Kathryn when she teaches yoga!) and once weighed and measured her stuffed animals. Plus, it’s Full Moon this Friday, so KB talks moon rituals with Tiffany Maloney, and, much to Kathryn’s dismay, Kate reveals that she doesn’t feel pressured to accept food when someone offers.

K&amp;K are joined by Kira Stokes, founder of The Stoked Method, and Kira reveals that she obsesses over transitions (just like Kate in writing! Just like Kathryn when she teaches yoga!) and once weighed and measured her stuffed animals. Plus, it’s Full Moon this Friday, so KB talks moon rituals with Tiffany Maloney, and, much to Kathryn’s dismay, Kate reveals that she doesn’t feel pressured to accept food when someone offers.

DROP & GIMME COOKIES with KIRA STOKES + TIFFANY MALONEY on FULL MOON RITUALS

Emily Nolan

Emily Nolan talks diets, deprivation, eating disorders, plastic surgery, liposuction and her journey through 16 different sizes as a model to becoming a self-care, body-positive blogger. Kate gets called out for her non-adulting ways while Kathryn breaks a cardinal cookie rule.

<blockquote>Emily Nolan talks diets, deprivation, eating disorders, plastic surgery, liposuction and her journey through 16 different sizes as a model to becoming a self-care, body-positive blogger. Kate gets called out for her non-adulting ways while Kathryn breaks a cardinal cookie rule.</blockquote>

RESHAPING THE COOKIE CUTTER with EMILY NOLAN

K&amp;K get scientific about which sport is best suited for their body types, and no, you wouldn't have guessed them. The OG of yoga, Seane Corn, discusses the importance of giving back, living with vertigo, and her amazing hair (ok, ok, Kathryn talks about that part).

<blockquote><blockquote>K&amp;K get scientific about which sport is best suited for their body types, and no, you wouldn't have guessed them. The OG of yoga, Seane Corn, discusses the importance of giving back, living with vertigo, and her amazing hair (ok, ok, Kathryn talks about that part).</blockquote></blockquote>

THE O.G. COOKIE with SEANE CORN

Kathryn and Kate share the most important books they've ever read -- broken down, of course, by a categorization that Kate has ruthlessly implemented. Then the pair, who are about to travel to Russia for World Cup 2018, deconstruct a list of "travel rules" that Kate claims she lives by. Kathryn calls out Kate's b.s. Lastly, an emotional snippet from Kate's mom, in honor of Pride Month.

Kathryn and Kate share the most important books they've ever read -- broken down, of course, by a categorization that Kate has ruthlessly implemented. Then the pair, who are about to travel to Russia for World Cup 2018, deconstruct a list of "travel rules" that Kate claims she lives by. Kathryn calls out Kate's b.s. Lastly, an emotional snippet from Kate's mom, in honor of Pride Month.

EXOTIC COOKIES: MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS + KATE'S MOM!

Rachel Platten

Season Two premiere! Platinum recording artist Rachel Platten beat-boxes as Kathryn sings a cookie-related ditty. The "Fight Song" star then opens up about expectations, how success affects art, and what kept her up at night before a TODAY SHOW appearance. Also -- what do S'mores, lobster and denim all have in common? Kate and Kathryn break it down for you!  

Season Two premiere! Platinum recording artist <a>Rachel Platten</a> beat-boxes as Kathryn sings a cookie-related ditty. The "Fight Song" star then opens up about expectations, how success affects art, and what kept her up at night before a TODAY SHOW appearance. Also -- what do S'mores, lobster and denim all have in common? Kate and Kathryn break it down for you!

PLATINUM COOKIES with RACHEL PLATTEN

Dana Childs

The episode you didn't know you needed: K&amp;K talk to Dana Childs, an intuitive and medium who shares what it's like to be in tune with the universe. Plus, Kate attempts to talk about how she's "intuitive", but it ends up becoming a therapy session about an icy trip to Whole Foods that the duo experienced that morning.

The episode you didn't know you needed: K&amp;K talk to Dana Childs, an intuitive and medium who shares what it's like to be in tune with the universe. Plus, Kate attempts to talk about how she's "intuitive", but it ends up becoming a therapy session about an icy trip to Whole Foods that the duo experienced that morning.

I SEE DEAD COOKIES with DANA CHILDS

Andrew deCoriolis

Kate and Kathryn dive into their relationship with eating animals and how the book, Eating Animals, has shaped Kathryn’s (and by extension Kate’s) thinking. Then they are joined by the executive director of Farm Forward, a non-profit trying to end factory farming. 

Kate and Kathryn dive into their relationship with eating animals and how the book, Eating Animals, has shaped Kathryn’s (and by extension Kate’s) thinking. Then they are joined by the executive director of Farm Forward, a non-profit trying to end factory farming.

FACTORY FARMING AND EATING ANIMALS with ANDREW DECORIOLIS

Surprise! It's a bonus episode - who says no to Sue Bird? First, K&amp;K grapple over who's responsible for a recent failed idiom (things escalate quickly). Then, WNBA superstar Sue Bird joins to discuss why people tear down women's sports, how stopping comparisons to the NBA might help, and her power couple status with USWNT star Megan Rapinoe.

Surprise! It's a bonus episode - who says no to Sue Bird? First, K&amp;K grapple over who's responsible for a recent failed idiom (things escalate quickly). Then, WNBA superstar Sue Bird joins to discuss why people tear down women's sports, how stopping comparisons to the NBA might help, and her power couple status with USWNT star Megan Rapinoe.

BONUS COOKIES with SUE BIRD

Liz Moody

In celebration of Charleston Wine &amp; Food Festival, Kathryn and Kate talk wellness world (the good and the ... trendy) with Healthier Together author Liz Moody.

In celebration of Charleston Wine &amp; Food Festival, Kathryn and Kate talk wellness world (the good and the ... trendy) with Healthier Together author Liz Moody.

FESTIVAL COOKIES with LIZ MOODY

Brad Jenkins

K&amp;K talk with Funny or Die’s Brad Jenkins, who worked in the White House for former President Obama and, most importantly, co-starred with Kathryn in Romeo &amp; Juliet, circa 1999. The pair also talks food with MindBodyGreen’s Liz Moody and bring back a recurring segment: Idioms for Idiots. 

K&amp;K talk with Funny or Die’s Brad Jenkins, who worked in the White House for former President Obama and, most importantly, co-starred with Kathryn in Romeo &amp; Juliet, circa 1999. The pair also talks food with MindBodyGreen’s Liz Moody and bring back a recurring segment: Idioms for Idiots.

BETWEEN TWO COOKIES with BRAD JENKINS

Sarah Villafranco

 K + K drop an emoji bombshell: 🤯😢🙅🏼‍♀️. Then the pair are joined by Osmia Organics founder Sarah Villafranco, a former physician, to talk clean beauty.

K + K drop an emoji bombshell: 🤯😢🙅🏼‍♀️. Then the pair are joined by Osmia Organics founder Sarah Villafranco, a former physician, to talk clean beauty.

Paraben-Free Cookies with Sarah Villafranco

Jen Pastiloff

Kathryn and Kate host a live event with Jennifer Pastiloff, author of the brand-new memoir, On Being Human. The duo talk to Jen about, well, being human: depression and death and truth and dorking out.

Kathryn and Kate host a live event with Jennifer Pastiloff, author of the brand-new memoir, On Being Human. The duo talk to Jen about, well, being human: depression and death and truth and dorking out.

THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A COOKIE with JEN PASTILOFF

Kate and Kathryn channel their inner “How I Built This” and sit down with Charleston entrepreneur Stacy Smallwood, owner of three fashion boutiques, to peel back the curtain on the fashion industry. 

Kate and Kathryn channel their inner “How I Built This” and sit down with Charleston entrepreneur Stacy Smallwood, owner of three fashion boutiques, to peel back the curtain on the fashion industry.

COOKIES-A-PORTER

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