This week, guest-host Nate Chinen talks to Miguel Cervantes, the actor currently playing Alexander Hamilton on Broadway. In the interview, Miguel explains why he’s not trying to mimic or channel the original performances by Lin-Manuel Miranda. He also shares how a personal tragedy changed his life and continues to impact his art. After the interview, Nate and co-host June Thomas talk about repetition and ritual as tools for creative work. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Miguel tells the story of an embarrassing mishap on stage. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675.Podcast production by Cameron Drews.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, guest-host Nate Chinen talks to Miguel Cervantes, the actor currently playing Alexander Hamilton on Broadway. In the interview, Miguel explains why he’s not trying to mimic or channel the original performances by Lin-Manuel Miranda. He also shares how a personal tragedy changed his life and continues to impact his art.  After the interview, Nate and co-host June Thomas talk about repetition and ritual as tools for creative work.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Miguel tells the story of an embarrassing mishap on stage.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The New Hamilton Actor Makes the Role His Own

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler dive into all the ways creatives should relax and vacation. Whether it’s splashing in the pool, or breezing through some books, a few days of R&amp;R can be just what is needed to replenish the creative juices. The hosts also explore the many conversations among friends and family that can sometimes jostle loose a new creative idea and recharge your relationships.Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at working@slate.com.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler dive into all the ways creatives should relax and vacation. Whether it’s splashing in the pool, or breezing through some books, a few days of R&amp;R can be just what is needed to replenish the creative juices. The hosts also explore the many conversations among friends and family that can sometimes jostle loose a new creative idea and recharge your relationships.Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Overtime: Vacation Like a Pro

This week, host June Thomas talks to writer Madeleine George, who recently adapted the classic Alison Bechdel comic Dykes to Watch Out For into an audio drama that stars Jane Lynch, Carrie Brownstein, Roberta Colindrez, and Roxane Gay. In the interview, Madeleine discusses the challenges of turning a piece of visual art into an audio-only narrative. She also talks about the 1980’s setting of the story and the continued relevance of the characters’ personal and political lives. After the interview, June and co-host Isaac Butler explain how to set rules for your creative projects. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Madeleine talks about her work on the Hulu series Only Murders in the Building. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675.Podcast production by Cameron Drews.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host June Thomas talks to writer Madeleine George, who recently adapted the classic Alison Bechdel comic Dykes to Watch Out For into an <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Alison-Bechdels-Dykes-to-Watch-Out-For-Audiobook/B0C4VVRKJM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">audio drama</a> that stars Jane Lynch, Carrie Brownstein, Roberta Colindrez, and Roxane Gay. In the interview, Madeleine discusses the challenges of turning a piece of visual art into an audio-only narrative. She also talks about the 1980’s setting of the story and the continued relevance of the characters’ personal and political lives.  After the interview, June and co-host Isaac Butler explain how to set rules for your creative projects.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Madeleine talks about her work on the Hulu series Only Murders in the Building.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

A Radical Comic Strip, Reimagined for Audio

This week, host Isaac Butler talks to actor Arian Moayed, who played Stewy on the hit HBO series Succession and more recently played Torvald Helmer in a production of A Doll’s House on Broadway. In the interview, Arian talks about his early career in theater and the valuable acting techniques that he learned in college. He also discusses his experiences playing unlikeable characters, his pivot from stage to screen, and the overwhelming amount of feedback that actors receive. [NOTE: This interview was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA Union began its strike.] After the interview, Isaac and co-host June Thomas discuss the benefits and downsides of high-intensity creative work.In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Arian explains how he got the hang of Succession’s unique tone. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675.Podcast production by Cameron Drews.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Isaac Butler talks to actor Arian Moayed, who played Stewy on the hit HBO series Succession and more recently played Torvald Helmer in a production of A Doll’s House on Broadway. In the interview, Arian talks about his early career in theater and the valuable acting techniques that he learned in college. He also discusses his experiences playing unlikeable characters, his pivot from stage to screen, and the overwhelming amount of feedback that actors receive.  [NOTE: This interview was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA Union began its strike.]  After the interview, Isaac and co-host June Thomas discuss the benefits and downsides of high-intensity creative work. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Arian explains how he got the hang of Succession’s unique tone.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

A Succession Actor on Playing Unlikeable Characters

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler are joined by Lincoln Michel author of The Body Scout, for a deep dive into the legacy of creative work. Books may last forever, but vast amounts of work within the digital realm end up being ephemeral. It can be easy to worry about how a Tweet may be perceived in the future, but even major authors of their day can be lost to the annals of time.Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at working@slate.com.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler are joined by <a href="https://lincolnmichel.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lincoln Michel</a> author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0316628727/?tag=slatmaga-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Body Scout</a>, for a deep dive into the legacy of creative work. Books may last forever, but vast amounts of work within the digital realm end up being ephemeral. It can be easy to worry about how a Tweet may be perceived in the future, but even major authors of their day can be lost to the annals of time. Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Overtime: The Life of Creative Work After Death

This week, guest-host Nate Chinen talks to Maria Schneider, winner of multiple Grammy Awards for her big band jazz compositions, including the song “Sue (Or in a Season of Crime),” which she composed with David Bowie. In the interview, Maria discusses her two mentors Gil Evans and Bob Brookmeyer and the wisdom that helped her find her voice as an artist. She also talks about her tools for composing, what it means to “trust your enthusiasm,” and her unforgettable collaboration with David Bowie. After the interview, Nate and co-host Isaac Butler explain how to respect the inner logic of your work. They also talk about how artists can borrow wisdom from other art forms.In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Maria explains why most of her music isn’t available on streaming services. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, guest-host Nate Chinen talks to Maria Schneider, winner of multiple Grammy Awards for her big band jazz compositions, including the song “Sue (Or in a Season of Crime),” which she composed with David Bowie. In the interview, Maria discusses her two mentors Gil Evans and Bob Brookmeyer and the wisdom that helped her find her voice as an artist. She also talks about her tools for composing, what it means to “trust your enthusiasm,” and her unforgettable collaboration with David Bowie.  After the interview, Nate and co-host Isaac Butler explain how to respect the inner logic of your work. They also talk about how artists can borrow wisdom from other art forms. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Maria explains why most of her music isn’t available on streaming services.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

A Grammy-Winning Jazz Composer Trusts Her Enthusiasm

This week, host June Thomas talks to journalist Maureen Ryan, author of the book Burn It Down: Power, Complicity, and a Call for Change in Hollywood. In recent years, Ryan has pivoted from TV criticism to writing stories focused on abuses of power in the TV industry. Her new book touches on troubling situations on shows like Lost, Saturday Night Live, The Goldbergs, Sleepy Hollow, and more.In the interview, Ryan discusses her reporting process and what it's felt like to watch the creators of some of her favorite shows come under fire.After the interview, Thomas and co-host Nate Chinen discuss why there might be some reason for hope in Hollywood after all. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Ryan talks about how her pivot to this kind of reporting has affected her career.Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675.Podcast production by Zak Rosen.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host June Thomas talks to journalist Maureen Ryan, author of the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0063269279/?tag=slatmaga-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Burn It Down: Power, Complicity, and a Call for Change in Hollywood</a>. In recent years, Ryan has pivoted from TV criticism to writing stories focused on abuses of power in the TV industry. Her new book touches on troubling situations on shows like Lost, Saturday Night Live, The Goldbergs, Sleepy Hollow, and more. In the interview, Ryan discusses her reporting process and what it's felt like to watch the creators of some of her favorite shows come under fire. After the interview, Thomas and co-host Nate Chinen discuss why there might be some reason for hope in Hollywood after all.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Ryan talks about how her pivot to this kind of reporting has affected her career. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Zak Rosen. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

A TV Critic Pivots to Exposing Hollywood Abuses

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler peel back the layers of great art. Whether it’s books, movies, essays, or paintings, creative work can be broken apart and used as inspirational ammunition for your own output. Through dog-earing novels, overloading a Notes app, or treating yourself to an ‘Artist Date,’ there are countless ways to consume creativity and store it for your own work.Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at working@slate.com.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this week’s episode of Working Overtime, hosts June Thomas and Isaac Butler peel back the layers of great art. Whether it’s books, movies, essays, or paintings, creative work can be broken apart and used as inspirational ammunition for your own output. Through dog-earing novels, overloading a Notes app, or treating yourself to an ‘Artist Date,’ there are countless ways to consume creativity and store it for your own work. Do you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>.  Podcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Overtime: Consuming Art like an Artist

This week, we're airing an encore presentation of our interview with Hannah Bos and Paul Thureen, writers and creators of the HBO series Somebody Somewhere, which just finished airing its second season on HBO. In the interview, Hannah and Paul discuss their close collaborative relationship and share some of the creative practices they developed with their theater company, The Debate Society. Then they talk about the development and writing process behind Somebody Somewhere, which is set in rural Kansas and stars actor and cabaret singer Bridget Everett, who grew up there.After the interview, hosts Isaac Butler and June Thomas talk about the effectiveness of writing exercises and the difficulty of describing one’s own creative processes.In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Hannah and Paul explain why they chose not to include any details about the pandemic in Somebody Somewhere.Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675.Podcast production by Cameron Drews.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we're airing an encore presentation of our interview with Hannah Bos and Paul Thureen, writers and creators of the HBO series Somebody Somewhere, which just finished airing its second season on HBO. In the interview, Hannah and Paul discuss their close collaborative relationship and share some of the creative practices they developed with their theater company, The Debate Society. Then they talk about the development and writing process behind Somebody Somewhere, which is set in rural Kansas and stars actor and cabaret singer Bridget Everett, who grew up there. After the interview, hosts Isaac Butler and June Thomas talk about the effectiveness of writing exercises and the difficulty of describing one’s own creative processes. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Hannah and Paul explain why they chose not to include any details about the pandemic in Somebody Somewhere. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Encore: The Writers Behind One of the Best Shows on TV

This week, host Isaac Butler talks to musician Peter One, whose recent album Come Back to Me is his first in more than three decades. In 1985, he and musician Jess Sah Bi released the album Our Garden Needs Its Flowers, which was a big hit in Peter’s home country of the Ivory Coast and bolstered his reputation around the world. In the interview, Peter discusses his songwriting process for Come Back to Me and explains what it’s been like to re-connect with his fanbase and to find new admirers of his work. After the interview, Isaac and co-host Nate Chinen discuss the role of intuition in creative work. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Peter talks more about the events that led to his career revival. Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Isaac Butler talks to musician Peter One, whose recent album Come Back to Me is his first in more than three decades. In 1985, he and musician Jess Sah Bi released the album Our Garden Needs Its Flowers, which was a big hit in Peter’s home country of the Ivory Coast and bolstered his reputation around the world. In the interview, Peter discusses his songwriting process for Come Back to Me and explains what it’s been like to re-connect with his fanbase and to find new admirers of his work.  After the interview, Isaac and co-host Nate Chinen discuss the role of intuition in creative work.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Peter talks more about the events that led to his career revival.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

A Moving Comeback Album From a Country-Folk Great 

Hosts Isaac Butler, Karen Han, and June Thomas interview creative people about how they write, compose, paint, and more.

Loved the MOMA episodes especially. Great interviewing skills in the host

Good show

I especially liked the Bon Appétit series.

Always interesting!

Working

This season on Working, Jacob Brogan talks to people whose jobs touch on all elements of LGBTQ life. On this episode Jacob sits down with Elizabeth Freeman, queer theorist, professor of English at UC Davis, and author of the books Time Binds, The Marriage Complex, and more. She talks about the three major aspects of her job, her research on marriage and chronology, whether she succeeds at queering her schedule, and what's satisfying about her work.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This season on Working, Jacob Brogan talks to people whose jobs touch on all elements of LGBTQ life. On this episode Jacob sits down with Elizabeth Freeman, queer theorist, professor of English at UC Davis, and author of the books Time Binds, The Marriage Complex, and more. She talks about the three major aspects of her job, her research on marriage and chronology, whether she succeeds at queering her schedule, and what's satisfying about her work.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working LGBTQ: How Does a Queer Theorist Work

Neil Gaiman

We're taking a break from our season about working animals for a special episode. Jacob Brogan sits down with Neil Gaiman, author of The Sandman comics, American Gods, Good Omens, and most recently a book called Norse Mythology. They discuss Gaiman's work routine, creative influences, perfectionism, the weirdness of the Norse gods and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're taking a break from our season about working animals for a special episode. Jacob Brogan sits down with Neil Gaiman, author of The Sandman comics, American Gods, Good Omens, and most recently a book called Norse Mythology. They discuss Gaiman's work routine, creative influences, perfectionism, the weirdness of the Norse gods and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working: How Does Neil Gaiman Work?

Chantal Tseng has been working as a bartender for 16 years, and has been designing her own cocktails for almost as long. She now operates out of the Reading Room at Petworth Citizen, a small, book-lined bar within a larger Washington, D.C. restaurant. Each week, she develops a new menu of drinks inspired by her recent reading, building experiences around the work of authors such as Graham Greene, Italo Calvino, and Ryunosuke Akutagawa.  And in a Slate Plus extra, Tseng reads Lewis Carroll’s poem “The Jabberwocky” before explaining how she makes a sherry cocktail that it inspired. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus. Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @Jacob_Brogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chantal Tseng has been working as a bartender for 16 years, and has been designing her own cocktails for almost as long. She now operates out of the Reading Room at Petworth Citizen, a small, book-lined bar within a larger Washington, D.C. restaurant. Each week, she develops a new menu of drinks inspired by her recent reading, building experiences around the work of authors such as Graham Greene, Italo Calvino, and Ryunosuke Akutagawa.  And in a Slate Plus extra, Tseng reads Lewis Carroll’s poem “The Jabberwocky” before explaining how she makes a sherry cocktail that it inspired. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="https://secure.slate.com/plus?wpsrc=sp_podcast_podcast_plus_working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>. Email: <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacob_Brogan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@Jacob_Brogan</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Classics: How Does a Bartender Work?

Today, we're coming to you with something special — the inaugural episode of Better Life Lab, the new podcast from Slate and New America. Better Life Lab looks at the challenges to work-life balance, and how we can change as a culture. Subscribe to Better Life Lab via:Apple PodcastsOvercastSpotifyStitcher Google PlayOr wherever you get your shows.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, we're coming to you with something special — the inaugural episode of Better Life Lab, the new podcast from Slate and New America. Better Life Lab looks at the challenges to work-life balance, and how we can change as a culture. Subscribe to Better Life Lab via:<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/better-life-lab/id1386944144" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1386944144/better-life-lab-the-art-and-science-of-living-a-full-and-healthy-life" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Overcast</a><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2IjjMRTLwQVm3jHvyVLkbO?si=zLx1VesrSuihzXcmSoqcGQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/slate/better-life-lab" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stitcher</a> <a href="https://play.google.com/music/listen#/ps/Ixw5phmlwzkyx7xm6ikvkj6hv3y" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Google Play</a>Or wherever you get your shows.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Presents: Better Life Lab

The next person taking us inside life at MoMA is Sarah Meister, a curator in the museum’s Department of Photography. Sarah’s work ranges from pitching exhibits, tracking down and acquiring pieces to writing those words on the wall that let you know what makes that work special.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The next person taking us inside life at MoMA is Sarah Meister, a curator in the museum’s Department of Photography. Sarah’s work ranges from pitching exhibits, tracking down and acquiring pieces to writing those words on the wall that let you know what makes that work special.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working at MoMA: How Does a Curator Do Her Job?

On this season on Working, Jacob Brogan talks to the team behind DC's Batman comic book. He'll be speaking to the penciler, colorist, editor, and more. In this episode, he sits down with Tom King, the current writer of Batman to discuss his process, how he came to the industry, the mythology of the character, and more. Working is brought to you by Orkin. Every home is unique, that’s why Orkin creates customized treatment plans based in science from the nation’s leading entomologists. Get 50 dollars off your first pest control service by signing up at orkin.com/working.And by Open Account, a podcast that gets personal about making, losing and living with money. Created by Umpqua Bank and hosted by SuChin Pak, download and subscribe to Open Account wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this season on Working, Jacob Brogan talks to the team behind DC's Batman comic book. He'll be speaking to the penciler, colorist, editor, and more. In this episode, he sits down with Tom King, the current writer of Batman to discuss his process, how he came to the industry, the mythology of the character, and more. Working is brought to you by Orkin. Every home is unique, that’s why Orkin creates customized treatment plans based in science from the nation’s leading entomologists. Get 50 dollars off your first pest control service by signing up at <a href="http://orkin.com/working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">orkin.com/working</a>.And by Open Account, a podcast that gets personal about making, losing and living with money. Created by Umpqua Bank and hosted by SuChin Pak, download and subscribe to Open Account wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working: How Does the Writer of Batman Work?

In this installment of Slate's podcast about work, host Adam Davidson talks with Det. Erica Hurley of the Portland Police Bureau's Child Abuse Team. Hurley explains how she investigates allegations of physical and sexual child abuse and the types of cases she encounters. Also, she discusses how she started her job and how it affects her life as a mother. In a Slate Plus extra, Hurley talks about Hollywood’s depiction of her work. If you're not a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your 2-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Our sponsors today: Citrix GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Get a free 30 day trial at GoToMeeting.com. Also: QuickBooks. Explore what QuickBooks Self-Employed can do for you with a free 30-day trial at TrySelfEmployed.com/working. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this installment of Slate's podcast about work, host Adam Davidson talks with Det. Erica Hurley of the Portland Police Bureau's Child Abuse Team.  Hurley explains how she investigates allegations of physical and sexual child abuse and the types of cases she encounters. Also, she discusses how she started her job and how it affects her life as a mother.  In a Slate Plus extra, Hurley talks about Hollywood’s depiction of her work. If you're not a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your 2-week free trial at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>. Our sponsors today: Citrix GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Get a free 30 day trial at <a href="http://GoToMeeting.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoToMeeting.com</a>. Also: QuickBooks. Explore what QuickBooks Self-Employed can do for you with a free 30-day trial at <a href="http://TrySelfEmployed.com/working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TrySelfEmployed.com/working</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The "How Does A Child-Abuse Detective Work?" Edition

This week, Working is bringing back its classic interview with author Neil Gaiman. Jacob Brogan sits down with the author of The Sandman comics, American Gods, Good Omens, and Norse Mythology. They discuss Gaiman's work routine, creative influences, perfectionism, the weirdness of the Norse gods and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Working is bringing back its classic interview with author Neil Gaiman. Jacob Brogan sits down with the author of The Sandman comics, American Gods, Good Omens, and Norse Mythology. They discuss Gaiman's work routine, creative influences, perfectionism, the weirdness of the Norse gods and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Classics: How Does Neil Gaiman Work?

The president of the New York Customs Brokers talks about his 37 years of experience in the importing business, and how the industry has changed.You can find out more at MailChimp.com. For an extended version of this interview and the transcript, join Slate Plus! Members also get bonus segments, exclusive podcasts, and more. Start your two-week trial at slate.com/workingplus.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The president of the New York Customs Brokers talks about his 37 years of experience in the importing business, and how the industry has changed.You can find out more at <a href="http://MailChimp.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MailChimp.com</a>.  For an extended version of this interview and the transcript, join Slate Plus! Members also get bonus segments, exclusive podcasts, and more. Start your two-week trial at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The "How Does a Customs Broker Work?" Edition

This week, Jordan talks with Victor J. Webster of Brooklyn’s East River Tattoo, who specializes in striking, large-scale pieces of body art inspired by Polynesian traditions. Victor discusses why working in black ink is trickier than you think, how tattoo machines actually work, his techniques for coaching clients through pain, and how he strives to draw inspiration from foreign cultures without simply appropriating them. While you’re listening, check out his work on Instagram.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Jordan talks with Victor J. Webster of Brooklyn’s East River Tattoo, who specializes in striking, large-scale pieces of body art inspired by Polynesian traditions. Victor discusses why working in black ink is trickier than you think, how tattoo machines actually work, his techniques for coaching clients through pain, and how he strives to draw inspiration from foreign cultures without simply appropriating them. While you’re listening, check out his work <a href="https://www.instagram.com/victorjwebstertattoo/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on Instagram</a>.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

How Does a Tattoo Artist Work?

This week, Jordan talks to Molly Baz, Senior Associate Food Editor at Bon Appétit. Molly is part of the team of chefs who create and test recipes for the magazine--which you may already know if you're one of the millions of people who watch Bon Appétit's videos on Youtube. Molly talks life in the BA Test Kitchen, how a recipe makes it to the pages of the magazine, and her secret for a perfect bowl of cereal.Slate Plus members get ad-free podcasts and bonus episodes of shows like Dear Prudence and Slow Burn. Sign up now to listen and support our work.You can email us at working@slate.com.Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Jordan talks to Molly Baz, Senior Associate Food Editor at Bon Appétit. Molly is part of the team of chefs who create and test recipes for the magazine--which you may already know if you're one of the millions of people who watch Bon Appétit's videos on Youtube. Molly talks life in the BA Test Kitchen, how a recipe makes it to the pages of the magazine, and her secret for a perfect bowl of cereal.Slate Plus members get ad-free podcasts and bonus episodes of shows like Dear Prudence and Slow Burn. <a href="https://my.slate.com/plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=Working&amp;utm_source=show_notes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up now</a> to listen and support our work.You can email us at <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>.Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Classics: How Does a Bon Appétit Test Kitchen Chef Do Her Job?

This season on Working, we’re speaking to individuals employed in fields potentially imperiled by the Trump presidency. These are the stories of people doing difficult but important jobs—jobs that may get much more difficult and much more important in the years ahead.Since his election, Trump has been dismissive of the intelligence community, reportedly neglecting briefings and sometimes even insulting the efforts of its members. We wanted to understand what it means to actually work in that secretive world. And while we couldn’t, for obvious reasons, get an active intelligence officer to talk to us, we did score the next best thing. Our guest this week is Aki Peritz, who worked as an intelligence analyst for the C.I.A., focusing for much of his time there on counterterrorism. He talks to Jacob Brogan about what that job actually involved, and about the importance of getting things right. He also tells us about everything from office culture at the CIA to the burden of secrecy. And, of course, he shares some thoughts about Trump. Then, in a Slate Plus extra, Peritz tells us about Hunted, the reality TV show that he’s working on now. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @Jacob_Brogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This season on Working, we’re speaking to individuals employed in fields potentially imperiled by the Trump presidency. These are the stories of people doing difficult but important jobs—jobs that may get much more difficult and much more important in the years ahead.Since his election, Trump has been dismissive of the intelligence community, reportedly neglecting briefings and sometimes even insulting the efforts of its members. We wanted to understand what it means to actually work in that secretive world. And while we couldn’t, for obvious reasons, get an active intelligence officer to talk to us, we did score the next best thing. Our guest this week is Aki Peritz, who worked as an intelligence analyst for the C.I.A., focusing for much of his time there on counterterrorism. He talks to Jacob Brogan about what that job actually involved, and about the importance of getting things right. He also tells us about everything from office culture at the CIA to the burden of secrecy. And, of course, he shares some thoughts about Trump. Then, in a Slate Plus extra, Peritz tells us about Hunted, the reality TV show that he’s working on now. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="https://secure.slate.com/plus?wpsrc=sp_podcast_podcast_plus_working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacob_Brogan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@Jacob_Brogan</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The "How Does a CIA Analyst Work?" Edition

Aleksey Kernes is the guy to know if you’re trying to skip the line outside a hot New York City club. The front of house manager at Hotel Chantelle, a nightclub on New York’s Lower East Side, talks nightlife, table service, and how being a doorman is a lot like being a lifeguard. (He also, of course, has his own app, Hooch, a subscription service for free cocktails at select venues.)In a Slate Plus extra, Kernes gives advice on how to get a bartender’s attention should you find yourself in a crowded bar. If you’re not a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Our sponsors today: Citrix GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Try it free for 30 days by visiting GoToMeeting.com and clicking the “try it free” button.And by Braintree. If you’re working on a mobile app and searching for a simple payments solution, check out Braintree. With one simple integration, you can offer your customers every way to pay. To learn more, and for your first $50,000 in transactions fee-free, go to braintreepayments.com/working.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @craftingmystyle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aleksey Kernes is the guy to know if you’re trying to skip the line outside a hot New York City club. The front of house manager at Hotel Chantelle, a nightclub on New York’s Lower East Side, talks nightlife, table service, and how being a doorman is a lot like being a lifeguard. (He also, of course, has his own app, Hooch, a subscription service for free cocktails at select venues.) In a Slate Plus extra, Kernes gives advice on how to get a bartender’s attention should you find yourself in a crowded bar. If you’re not a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>. Our sponsors today: Citrix GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Try it free for 30 days by visiting <a href="http://GoToMeeting.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoToMeeting.com</a> and clicking the “try it free” button. And by Braintree. If you’re working on a mobile app and searching for a simple payments solution, check out Braintree. With one simple integration, you can offer your customers every way to pay. To learn more, and for your first $50,000 in transactions fee-free, go to <a href="http://braintreepayments.com/working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">braintreepayments.com/working</a>. Email: working@slate.com Twitter: @craftingmystyle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The “How Does a Club Doorman Work?” Edition

In this installment of Slate’s podcast about work, host Adam Davidson talks with mother-and-son duo Monica and Kicker Kalozdi about their New Orleans-based business, Kalencom Corp.They discuss how they design, manufacture, and distribute a wide variety of products including toddler potties, diaper bags, and men’s briefcases.The Kalozdis walk Davidson through the process of choosing overseas manufacturing and explain why it is hard for small American businesses to survive without some international outsourcing.For an extended version of this interview and the transcript, join Slate Plus! Members receive bonus material, exclusive podcasts, and more. Start your two-week trial at slate.com/workingplus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this installment of Slate’s podcast about work, host Adam Davidson talks with mother-and-son duo Monica and Kicker Kalozdi about their New Orleans-based business, Kalencom Corp. They discuss how they design, manufacture, and distribute a wide variety of products including toddler potties, diaper bags, and men’s briefcases. The Kalozdis walk Davidson through the process of choosing overseas manufacturing and explain why it is hard for small American businesses to survive without some international outsourcing. For an extended version of this interview and the transcript, join Slate Plus! Members receive bonus material, exclusive podcasts, and more. Start your two-week trial at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The “How Does a Family Business Work?” Edition

This week on Working, Jordan sits down with Jake Dell who is the latest member of his family to take over New York’s famed Katz’s Deli. When you own a restaurant that has been beloved since 1888, your work is never done. Jake tells us about what goes into making sure their pastrami always tastes amazing, how the business has and hasn’t changed in 130 years ago and just how often people reenact the iconic “I’ll have what she’s having” scene from When Harry Met Sally.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Working, Jordan sits down with Jake Dell who is the latest member of his family to take over New York’s famed Katz’s Deli. When you own a restaurant that has been beloved since 1888, your work is never done. Jake tells us about what goes into making sure their pastrami always tastes amazing, how the business has and hasn’t changed in 130 years ago and just how often people reenact the iconic “I’ll have what she’s having” scene from When Harry Met Sally.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

How Does the Owner of Katz’s Deli Work?

Leigh Clayton takes care of the health of 1,500 animals in Baltimore's National Aquarium. She explains how you can tell when a fish is sick, and everything that goes into keeping them healthy. She also tells us about how the National Aquarium connects to and educates about local species, and shares some tips for home aquarium care.In a Slate Plus Extra, she talks about caring for Jacob Brogan's favorite animals: octopuses. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @Jacob_BroganProduction: Mickey Capper @FMcapper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Leigh Clayton takes care of the health of 1,500 animals in Baltimore's National Aquarium. She explains how you can tell when a fish is sick, and everything that goes into keeping them healthy. She also tells us about how the National Aquarium connects to and educates about local species, and shares some tips for home aquarium care.In a Slate Plus Extra, she talks about caring for Jacob Brogan's favorite animals: octopuses. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="https://secure.slate.com/plus?wpsrc=sp_podcast_podcast_plus_working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacob_Brogan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@Jacob_Brogan</a>Production: Mickey Capper <a href="https://twitter.com/FMcapper" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@FMcapper</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Classics: How Does an Aquarium Veterinarian work?

On the final episode of Working Classics, Jacob Brogan talks to New York drag queen, and now Rupaul's Drag Race contestant, Miz Cracker about how she conceives of her shows and outfits, the significance of makeup, drag lore, the place of drag and RuPaul's Drag Race in gay culture, and battling robot Hitler. In Slate Plus, Miz Cracker discusses her favorite songs to lip-sync to. Check out Miz Cracker at instagram.com/miz_cracker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the final episode of Working Classics, Jacob Brogan talks to New York drag queen, and now Rupaul's Drag Race contestant, Miz Cracker about how she conceives of her shows and outfits, the significance of makeup, drag lore, the place of drag and RuPaul's Drag Race in gay culture, and battling robot Hitler. In Slate Plus, Miz Cracker discusses her favorite songs to lip-sync to. Check out Miz Cracker at <a href="http://instagram.com/miz_cracker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">instagram.com/miz_cracker</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working Classics: How Does a Drag Queen Work?

Cody Keenan

This season on Working, we’re going to the White House. Head Speechwriter Cody Keenan writes and edits the President's speeches. He takes us through his career starting as a speechwriting intern in 2008 and how a speech goes from the blank page to the teleprompter. In a Slate Plus Extra, Keenan tells us about some of the lighter speeches he's written over the years, including one he gave himself. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This season on Working, we’re going to the White House. Head Speechwriter Cody Keenan writes and edits the President's speeches. He takes us through his career starting as a speechwriting intern in 2008 and how a speech goes from the blank page to the teleprompter. In a Slate Plus Extra, Keenan tells us about some of the lighter speeches he's written over the years, including one he gave himself. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="http://slate.com/workingplus" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Working at the White House: Head Speechwriter Cody Keenan

On this season of Working, we left the East Coast behind and flew to Detroit. We’re speaking with eight people who are drawing on the city’s complex history as they work to create its future.For this episode, we visited Shinola's headquarters in Detroit, where Jen Guarino manages the creation of new leather goods, watches, turntables, and more. Guarino's desk is on the factory floor and she told us about training a workforce to make new products, finding good suppliers, and how a product goes from design to the factory floor. Then in a Slate Plus Extra, Guarino takes us on an audio tour of Shinola's factory. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @Jacob_BroganProduction: Mickey Capper, @FMcapper Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this season of Working, we left the East Coast behind and flew to Detroit. We’re speaking with eight people who are drawing on the city’s complex history as they work to create its future.For this episode, we visited Shinola's headquarters in Detroit, where Jen Guarino manages the creation of new leather goods, watches, turntables, and more. Guarino's desk is on the factory floor and she told us about training a workforce to make new products, finding good suppliers, and how a product goes from design to the factory floor. Then in a Slate Plus Extra, Guarino takes us on an audio tour of Shinola's factory. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="https://secure.slate.com/plus?wpsrc=sp_podcast_podcast_plus_working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>.Email: working@slate.comTwitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacob_Brogan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@Jacob_Brogan</a>Production: Mickey Capper, <a href="https://twitter.com/FMcapper" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@FMcapper</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

In Detroit: How Does Shinola's Manufacturing VP Work?

In the final episode for this season of Working, Slate’s L.V. Anderson talks with Vanessa Pollock a Realtor for Keller Williams Midtown Direct Realty in northern New Jersey. Vanessa discusses the drawbacks and benefits of real estate school, her friendly competitiveness with other agents in the area, and how she goes about getting top dollar on the sale of her client’s homes. Plus, Vanessa talks about the upfront costs of running her business and how she’s able to give back to the community through her organization – Closing For A Cause.In a Slate Plus extra, Pollock reflects on how her life as a dancer has helped her in real estate and how she manages a work/life balance. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at slate.com/workingplus.Working is brought to you by Braintree. It’s a beautiful thing when your customers want to pay. But what if they could pay every way? Braintree lets you accept all forms of payment, including Paypal, Apple Pay, Android Pay, and more. Now you can take them all, in over one hundred and thirty currencies. And as your company grows, Braintree will stay by your side, from your first dollar to your billionth. All it takes is a couple lines of code to get started. To learn more visit braintreepayments.com/working.And by Citrix GoToMeeting. When meetings matter, millions choose GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Try it free for 30 days by visiting GoToMeeting.com and clicking the "try it free" button. That's GoToMeeting.com … "try it free."Email: working@slate.comTwitter: @LV_Anderson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the final episode for this season of Working, Slate’s L.V. Anderson talks with <a href="http://vanessapollock.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vanessa Pollock</a> a Realtor for Keller Williams Midtown Direct Realty in northern New Jersey. Vanessa discusses the drawbacks and benefits of real estate school, her friendly competitiveness with other agents in the area, and how she goes about getting top dollar on the sale of her client’s homes. Plus, Vanessa talks about the upfront costs of running her business and how she’s able to give back to the community through her organization – <a href="http://vanessapollock.com/closing-for-a-cause/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Closing For A Cause</a>.In a Slate Plus extra, Pollock reflects on how her life as a dancer has helped her in real estate and how she manages a work/life balance. If you’re a member, enjoy bonus segments and interview transcripts from Working, plus other great podcast exclusives. Start your two-week free trial at <a href="https://secure.slate.com/plus?wpsrc=sp_podcast_podcast_plus_working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">slate.com/workingplus</a>.Working is brought to you by Braintree. It’s a beautiful thing when your customers want to pay. But what if they could pay every way? Braintree lets you accept all forms of payment, including Paypal, Apple Pay, Android Pay, and more. Now you can take them all, in over one hundred and thirty currencies. And as your company grows, Braintree will stay by your side, from your first dollar to your billionth. All it takes is a couple lines of code to get started. To learn more visit <a href="https://four.libsynpro.com/Volumes/LaCie/Working/Working%20Podcast%20Season%205/WP15121301_Wine/braintreepayments.com/working" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">braintreepayments.com/working</a>.And by Citrix GoToMeeting. When meetings matter, millions choose GoToMeeting. Hold a meeting with anyone from the convenience of your computer, smartphone, or tablet. Try it free for 30 days by visiting <a href="https://four.libsynpro.com/Volumes/LaCie/Working/Working%20Podcast%20Season%205/WP15121301_Wine/GoToMeeting.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoToMeeting.com</a> and clicking the "try it free" button. That's <a href="http://GoToMeeting.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GoToMeeting.com</a> … "try it free."Email: <a href="mailto:working@slate.com">working@slate.com</a>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/LV_Anderson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@LV_Anderson</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The "How Does a Realtor Work?" Edition

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