What do the Bachelor, Love is Blind, the Ultimatum, and all of the other competition dating reality TV shows have in common? Really problematic narratives about marriage! We break down some of our most "precious illusions" (thanks, Alanis Morissette) about finding "the one," tying the knot, and having a "successful" marriage. We discuss the conveyor belt narratives that leave so many of us miserable, dissatisfied, and lost in the relationships we are told will fulfill us completely.

Tackling the Taboo: The Precious Illusions of Marriage

We take a break from our Tackling the Taboo series to celebrate the beginning of summer by talking about what we’re enjoying these days. We talk about some of the books, movies, creative projects, and practices that we are loving right now.Full shownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/06/05/episode-74-what-were-enjoying-these-days/

We take a break from our Tackling the Taboo series to celebrate the beginning of summer by talking about what we’re enjoying these days. We talk about some of the books, movies, creative projects, and practices that we are loving right now. Full shownotes: <a href="https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/06/05/episode-74-what-were-enjoying-these-days/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/06/05/episode-74-what-were-enjoying-these-days/</a>

What We're Enjoying These Days

Being a parent of an only child comes with all kinds of baggage and inappropriate comments and questions.  We discuss the ways that only children are stigmatized and dispel some of the cultural myths surrounding this family structure. Shownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/05/08/episode-73-tackling-taboo-one-and-done/

Being a parent of an only child comes with all kinds of baggage and inappropriate comments and questions. We discuss the ways that only children are stigmatized and dispel some of the cultural myths surrounding this family structure. Shownotes: <a href="https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/05/08/episode-73-tackling-taboo-one-and-done/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/05/08/episode-73-tackling-taboo-one-and-done/</a>

Tackling the Taboo: One and Done

CW: we discuss alcohol and drinking on this episode. How has our relationship with alcohol changed over the course of our lives? And are "wine moms" really a thing or are we just failing parents of young children?Shownotes https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/02/27/episode-72-tackling-taboo-are-we-wine-moms/

CW: we discuss alcohol and drinking on this episode. How has our relationship with alcohol changed over the course of our lives? And are "wine moms" really a thing or are we just failing parents of young children? Shownotes <a href="https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/02/27/episode-72-tackling-taboo-are-we-wine-moms/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://kindredspodcast.com/2023/02/27/episode-72-tackling-taboo-are-we-wine-moms/</a>

Tackling the Taboo: Are We Wine Moms?

Welcome to our seventh year of recording Kindreds! This year we are tackling some taboo topics that until now we were a little too fearful to talk about on the show at the length. This episode we start a conversation about sex and sexuality with a focus on what we learned at church, school, and in the culture as young people and how we're unlearning and re-educating ourselves about sex and sexuality in our 30s.

Tackling the Taboo: Sex and Sexuality

We wrap up 2022 with some life updates from the fall, some of our favorite things from the year, and how we are making the end of this year. And of course, we included our annual Spotify playlist.Link to playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aPDl74PcN9dAKSVblUCFr?si=0a9aba471abd446bShownotes: https://kindredspodcast.com/2022/12/19/episode-70-wrapping-up-2022/

We wrap up 2022 with some life updates from the fall, some of our favorite things from the year, and how we are making the end of this year. And of course, we included our annual Spotify playlist. Link to playlist: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aPDl74PcN9dAKSVblUCFr?si=0a9aba471abd446b" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4aPDl74PcN9dAKSVblUCFr?si=0a9aba471abd446b</a> Shownotes: <a href="https://kindredspodcast.com/2022/12/19/episode-70-wrapping-up-2022/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://kindredspodcast.com/2022/12/19/episode-70-wrapping-up-2022/</a>

Wrapping Up 2022

We explore the age-old question of what happens when we die. We return to our evangelical roots and discuss theologies of salvation, atonement, and baptism—and how those things are portrayed in church culture (hell house, anyone?). Is Hell even a biblical concept at all? Then we move into talking about where we land these days. In short, we have a lot of questions, and we’re just fine with that.

Afterlife?

What does it mean to heal from grief? Is it something we do alone, or is healing a communal effort? What does support look like for grieving people,  and where do we go for that support? How do we support people we love who are grieving? These are some of the things we talk about in this second conversation about grief.Some of the areas we discuss are the ways that churches show up (and don’t) when we are suffering a loss, how grief connects to the rituals of different religious seasons and practices, and some of the worst things people say in the face of a person’s loss. Resources:How to Process our Collective Grief (https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/23/how-to-process-our-collective-grief)Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52623750-wintering)Marked by Covid (https://www.markedbycovid.com/)Black Liturgies on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/blackliturgies/)

What does it mean to heal from grief? Is it something we do alone, or is healing a communal effort? What does support look like for grieving people, and where do we go for that support? How do we support people we love who are grieving? These are some of the things we talk about in this second conversation about grief. Some of the areas we discuss are the ways that churches show up (and don’t) when we are suffering a loss, how grief connects to the rituals of different religious seasons and practices, and some of the worst things people say in the face of a person’s loss. Resources: How to Process our Collective Grief (<a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/23/how-to-process-our-collective-grief" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/23/how-to-process-our-collective-grief</a>) Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May (<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52623750-wintering" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52623750-wintering</a>) Marked by Covid (<a href="https://www.markedbycovid.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.markedbycovid.com/</a>) Black Liturgies on Instagram (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/blackliturgies/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/blackliturgies/</a>)

Navigating Grief, Part 2: What Does It Mean To Heal?

For a long time we’ve been saying that we need to record an episode about this heavy topic, but we’ve just been too mired in it ourselves to talk about it publicly. We’re finally ready, and we have so much to say that we’re making it a two-parter.In this episode we talk about what exactly grief is, what some of the different types are, and how no matter the source, your grief is valid. Things We Mention: Brene Brown's Atlas of the HeartColumbia Center for Complicated GriefWebinar: Healing the Brain After Loss

For a long time we’ve been saying that we need to record an episode about this heavy topic, but we’ve just been too mired in it ourselves to talk about it publicly. We’re finally ready, and we have so much to say that we’re making it a two-parter. In this episode we talk about what exactly grief is, what some of the different types are, and how no matter the source, your grief is valid. Things We Mention: Brene Brown's Atlas of the Heart Columbia Center for Complicated Grief Webinar: Healing the Brain After Loss

Navigating Grief, Part 1: Naming and Claiming

We talk about our reactions to the post-Roe reality that we are making our way through, how we are navigating our own grief journeys this year, and what we are turning to for comfort in these hard days. Ashley shares about the compounded grief her family is experiencing, and Katey shares about coming out about being queer. Resources We Mention:-AbortionsWelcome.org, our pro-choice spiritual companion for before, during, and after abortion-National Network of Abortion Funds-ineedana.com for abortion seekers-Emergent Strategy by adrienne marie brownOur Comforts- Rebecca Campbell's community Sancutary- Hacks on HBO- Harry Styles's album, Harry's House

We talk about our reactions to the post-Roe reality that we are making our way through, how we are navigating our own grief journeys this year, and what we are turning to for comfort in these hard days. Ashley shares about the compounded grief her family is experiencing, and Katey shares about coming out about being queer. Resources We Mention: -<a href="http://AbortionsWelcome.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AbortionsWelcome.org</a>, our pro-choice spiritual companion for before, during, and after abortion -National Network of Abortion Funds -<a href="http://ineedana.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ineedana.com</a> for abortion seekers -Emergent Strategy by adrienne marie brown Our Comforts - Rebecca Campbell's community Sancutary - Hacks on HBO - Harry Styles's album, Harry's House

Summertime Survival

A podcast for soul sisters, where we talk all things faith, feminism, and friendship from our homes in the South.

Oh my gosh, the quote that you read about the word &#34;blessed&#34; and the problems that come with it (associated with unearned privilege) really resonated with me. I&#39;ve felt kind of odd about that word and couldn&#39;t put my finger on why. Thanks for that discussion. - C. Levin

Hit a chord with me

So much in these episodes resonates with me.

Love it!

Kindreds

What is white feminism, and why is it a problem? In this episode we discuss our own revelations about white feminism, why it's problematic, and how white women can take active steps towards allyship.Full shownotes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/02/13/episode-29-white-feminism/

What is white feminism, and why is it a problem? In this episode we discuss our own revelations about white feminism, why it's problematic, and how white women can take active steps towards allyship. Full shownotes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/02/13/episode-29-white-feminism/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/02/13/episode-29-white-feminism/</a>

White Feminism

Rachel Marie

Katey joins author Rachel Marie Stone to discuss her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light. We examine the simultaneous discomfort  and the awe we feel about how in the act of giving birth, we touch death as we bring new life into the world. We discuss the ways that the medicalization of birth has changed the ways that we think about birth, the importance of affirming women's self-knowledge of their own bodies, and the ways that birth can teach us about the nature of God.Rachel is the author of Eat With Joy: Redeeming God’s Gift of Food, which won won Christianity Today book award in the category of Christian Living, and was named one of Religion News Service’s “Top Ten Intriguing Books of 2013.” Her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light will be available on May 1. Publisher's Weekly said "Stone’s style is reflective, making the book more of a meditation than a traditional memoir, and the prose is evocative throughout." You can pre-order Birthing Hope on Intervarsity Press.

Katey joins author Rachel Marie Stone to discuss her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light. We examine the simultaneous discomfort  and the awe we feel about how in the act of giving birth, we touch death as we bring new life into the world. We discuss the ways that the medicalization of birth has changed the ways that we think about birth, the importance of affirming women's self-knowledge of their own bodies, and the ways that birth can teach us about the nature of God. Rachel is the author of Eat With Joy: Redeeming God’s Gift of Food, which won won Christianity Today book award in the category of Christian Living, and was named one of Religion News Service’s “Top Ten Intriguing Books of 2013.” Her latest book Birthing Hope: Giving Fear to the Light will be available on May 1. Publisher's Weekly said "Stone’s style is reflective, making the book more of a meditation than a traditional memoir, and the prose is evocative throughout." You can pre-order Birthing Hope on Intervarsity Press.

Rachel Marie Stone on Birth, Death, and Hope

We absolutely love our listeners, and that's why we dedicate our last episode of the year to your questions, comments, and ideas.  This one is chock full of listener thoughtfulness--way more than we could fit into a single episode! But, we did our best to weigh in on a number of topics including deconstructing and reconstructing our faith, reclaiming "blessed" as a theological term, and the complexities surrounding reproductive dignity and freedom, including miscarriage, adoption, and child marriage.We also do a quick recap of where we were at the beginning of this decade and how we're ending it now. (Hint: we're rocking it!)

We absolutely love our listeners, and that's why we dedicate our last episode of the year to your questions, comments, and ideas.  This one is chock full of listener thoughtfulness--way more than we could fit into a single episode! But, we did our best to weigh in on a number of topics including deconstructing and reconstructing our faith, reclaiming "blessed" as a theological term, and the complexities surrounding reproductive dignity and freedom, including miscarriage, adoption, and child marriage. We also do a quick recap of where we were at the beginning of this decade and how we're ending it now. (Hint: we're rocking it!)

Our 2019 Listener Request Episode

Asha Dahya

Katey speaks with filmmaker and journalist Asha Dahya about her upcoming documentary  series Life At All Costs: Going Beyond Pro Choice vs. Pro Life. We talk about her faith journey from evangelicalism to spiritual searching and how that shapes her work around changing the conversation around reproductive health and rights.Asha Dahya is a journalist, a filmmaker, and the Content Creator and Editor-in-Chief of GirlTalkHQ, a daily women’s news media site with a mission to inspire and empower,  and that centers positive news for women with a focus on the representation of women in the media. Follow her on Twitter(@ashadahya) and Instagram (@ashadahya), and keep up with her documentary making process at Seed and Spark.Shownotes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/06/04/episode-19-reframing-reproductive-rights-with-asha-dahya/

Katey speaks with filmmaker and journalist Asha Dahya about her upcoming documentary series Life At All Costs: Going Beyond Pro Choice vs. Pro Life. We talk about her faith journey from evangelicalism to spiritual searching and how that shapes her work around changing the conversation around reproductive health and rights. Asha Dahya is a journalist, a filmmaker, and the Content Creator and Editor-in-Chief of GirlTalkHQ, a daily women’s news media site with a mission to inspire and empower, and that centers positive news for women with a focus on the representation of women in the media. Follow her on Twitter(@ashadahya) and Instagram (@ashadahya), and keep up with her documentary making process at Seed and Spark. Shownotes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/06/04/episode-19-reframing-reproductive-rights-with-asha-dahya/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/06/04/episode-19-reframing-reproductive-rights-with-asha-dahya/</a>

Reframing Reproductive Rights with Asha Dahya

Pain is personal. But what happens when our pain isn’t taken seriously? We dive into the dynamics of pain, gender, and the medical community, and we address how this impacts women of color particularly. We talk specifically about childbirth and pain more generally–and the messages we got as kids about “making a fuss” over our ailments. Read the full show notes at: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/03/episode-21-women-and-pain/ Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show

Pain is personal. But what happens when our pain isn’t taken seriously? We dive into the dynamics of pain, gender, and the medical community, and we address how this impacts women of color particularly. We talk specifically about childbirth and pain more generally–and the messages we got as kids about “making a fuss” over our ailments. Read the full show notes at: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/03/episode-21-women-and-pain/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/03/episode-21-women-and-pain/</a> Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show

Women and Pain

Cindy Brandt

We talk with writer Cindy Brandt about her shifting faith journey, identifying as a feminist, and approaching parenting in an unfundamentalist way. Cindy is the author of an upcoming book on parenting from a progressive Christian perspective. Her website is cindywords.com where she blogs about faith,  culture, and parenting.  She’s the founder of the Raising Children Unfundamentalist Facebook Group which has over 11K members. She describes herself as “a social justice Christian and a feminist more interested in being evangelized than evangelizing.”

We talk with writer Cindy Brandt about her shifting faith journey, identifying as a feminist, and approaching parenting in an unfundamentalist way. Cindy is the author of an upcoming book on parenting from a progressive Christian perspective. Her website is <a href="http://cindywords.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">cindywords.com</a> where she blogs about faith,  culture, and parenting.  She’s the founder of the Raising Children Unfundamentalist Facebook Group which has over 11K members. She describes herself as “a social justice Christian and a feminist more interested in being evangelized than evangelizing.”

Cindy Brandt on Faith Shifting and Unfundamentalist Parenting

Resilience

Don't be afraid to fail big.  But who gets to fail without real consequences? And how do we recover from life's most disappointing moments? Today we discuss some of our failures, our feelings about them, and how we've learned to cultivate resilience through building our internal "toolbox" of skills and practices. http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/18/episode-22-resilience-and-overcoming-fear-of-failure/ What We're Reading and Listening To Ashley has been watching the Queer Eye reboot on Netflix. Jonathan Van Ness, one of the cast members, has a  podcast called Getting Curious. His episode "How to Apply Ethics to Everyday Life," a conversation with Christian ethicist Ryan Huber, whose scholarship focuses on German theologian and anti-Nazi activist Dietrich Bonhoeffer, offers an accessible way to learn more about a complex, nuanced issue. Katey has been giggling at Riot's Womanhood series on Youtube featuring comedians Aparna Nancherla and Jo Firestone. Katey discovered the duo on an episode of the Unladylike podcast called "How to Gal Pal." While all of the episodes will have you in stitches, she recommends you start with this one:  “Do you Need Helmets for Aqua Cycling?” Kindreds of the Moment We are celebrating all of the resisters who are speaking out against injustice. Here are some of our favorites: -600 women sit-in at the Senate Building protesting family separation, wrapped in foil blankets. Almost all of them were arrested. -Clergy protest family separation and Jeff Sessions in Los Angeles  -Clergywomen demonstrate outside of Customs and Border Protection office in DC -Patricia Okuomou, immigrant from Congo, climbed the Statue of Liberty on the 4th of July to protest ICE and family separation. She said, “'When they go low, we go high,’ and I went as high as I could.” We'll be taking the month of August off from recording. We'll be back with new episodes in September. Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show. https://www.patreon.com/kindreds

Don't be afraid to fail big.  But who gets to fail without real consequences? And how do we recover from life's most disappointing moments? Today we discuss some of our failures, our feelings about them, and how we've learned to cultivate resilience through building our internal "toolbox" of skills and practices. <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/18/episode-22-resilience-and-overcoming-fear-of-failure/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/07/18/episode-22-resilience-and-overcoming-fear-of-failure/</a> What We're Reading and Listening To Ashley has been watching the Queer Eye reboot on Netflix. Jonathan Van Ness, one of the cast members, has a  podcast called Getting Curious. His episode "How to Apply Ethics to Everyday Life," a conversation with Christian ethicist Ryan Huber, whose scholarship focuses on German theologian and anti-Nazi activist Dietrich Bonhoeffer, offers an accessible way to learn more about a complex, nuanced issue. Katey has been giggling at Riot's Womanhood series on Youtube featuring comedians Aparna Nancherla and Jo Firestone. Katey discovered the duo on an episode of the Unladylike podcast called "How to Gal Pal." While all of the episodes will have you in stitches, she recommends you start with this one:  “Do you Need Helmets for Aqua Cycling?” Kindreds of the Moment We are celebrating all of the resisters who are speaking out against injustice. Here are some of our favorites: -600 women sit-in at the Senate Building protesting family separation, wrapped in foil blankets. Almost all of them were arrested. -Clergy protest family separation and Jeff Sessions in Los Angeles  -Clergywomen demonstrate outside of Customs and Border Protection office in DC -Patricia Okuomou, immigrant from Congo, climbed the Statue of Liberty on the 4th of July to protest ICE and family separation. She said, “'When they go low, we go high,’ and I went as high as I could.” We'll be taking the month of August off from recording. We'll be back with new episodes in September. Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/kindreds" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/kindreds</a>

Resilience and Overcoming the Fear of Failure

In honor of Valentine’s Day–and all of its baggage–Katey and her special co-host Matt (Katey’s husband of nearly five years) discuss what it means to be married. We talk about our failures in past relationships and how they inform our partnership today. We discuss how parenting has changed our relationship and how Matt’s background in psychology has helped us work through some of our toughest moments.If any relationship–romantic, professional, familial, and friendly–is going to be healthy and sustainable, we all need to do the deep work of self-discovery. Some of the psychological concepts that have helped us most include understanding transference and triggers. We’ll include some helpful resources to help you understand your own emotional make-up and how it can help rather than hinder your relationships.For more resources, check out our shownotes:http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/02/15/episode-13-lessons-in-marriage/

In honor of Valentine’s Day–and all of its baggage–Katey and her special co-host Matt (Katey’s husband of nearly five years) discuss what it means to be married. We talk about our failures in past relationships and how they inform our partnership today. We discuss how parenting has changed our relationship and how Matt’s background in psychology has helped us work through some of our toughest moments. If any relationship–romantic, professional, familial, and friendly–is going to be healthy and sustainable, we all need to do the deep work of self-discovery. Some of the psychological concepts that have helped us most include understanding transference and triggers. We’ll include some helpful resources to help you understand your own emotional make-up and how it can help rather than hinder your relationships. For more resources, check out our shownotes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/02/15/episode-13-lessons-in-marriage/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/02/15/episode-13-lessons-in-marriage/</a>

Lessons in Marriage

Abortion. We're talking all about it in this episode. We dive into the history of Christianity and abortion and how that showed up in our church upbringings. We discuss the state of abortion access today and how abortion fits within the broader framework of reproductive justice. And, we talk about how we are Christians who support abortion and why we need to talk about it more. Full show notes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/07/29/episode-34-the-abortion-episode/

Abortion. We're talking all about it in this episode. We dive into the history of Christianity and abortion and how that showed up in our church upbringings. We discuss the state of abortion access today and how abortion fits within the broader framework of reproductive justice. And, we talk about how we are Christians who support abortion and why we need to talk about it more.  Full show notes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/07/29/episode-34-the-abortion-episode/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/07/29/episode-34-the-abortion-episode/</a>

The Abortion Episode

We interview advocate Ashley Easter about her upbringing in the  stay-at-home daughter movement, how reading scripture on her own paved the way for her to leave fundamentalism, and how she works to end abuse in all forms, both within the walls of the church and beyond.Ashley is a writer, speaker, and a powerful advocate for survivors of abuse, especially those who have been abused by leaders within their  faith communities. She is the author of The Courage Coach: A Practical, Friendly Guide on How to Heal From Abuse. She’s also the founder of the Courage Conference, a gathering for survivors of abuse and those who love them to learn about ways that they can find healing from these past traumatic experiences. You can find her at ashleyeaster.com.

We interview advocate Ashley Easter about her upbringing in the stay-at-home daughter movement, how reading scripture on her own paved the way for her to leave fundamentalism, and how she works to end abuse in all forms, both within the walls of the church and beyond. Ashley is a writer, speaker, and a powerful advocate for survivors of abuse, especially those who have been abused by leaders within their faith communities. She is the author of The Courage Coach: A Practical, Friendly Guide on How to Heal From Abuse. She’s also the founder of the Courage Conference, a gathering for survivors of abuse and those who love them to learn about ways that they can find healing from these past traumatic experiences. You can find her at <a href="http://ashleyeaster.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ashleyeaster.com</a>.

Ashley Easter on Leaving Fundamentalism and Ending Abuse in the Church

On this episode we ask, "Can men even be feminists? And if they can, why would they *want* to be feminists?" We talk about patriarchy, toxic and tender masculinities, and displays of allyship from men and boys that we celebrate. For the full show notes, visit http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/04/23/episode-31-men-and-feminism/

On this episode we ask, "Can men even be feminists? And if they can, why would they *want* to be feminists?" We talk about patriarchy, toxic and tender masculinities, and displays of allyship from men and boys that we celebrate.  For the full show notes, visit <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/04/23/episode-31-men-and-feminism/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/04/23/episode-31-men-and-feminism/</a>

Men and Feminism

In this longer, year-end episode, we continue our conversation about bodies--but this time we're talking about pregnancy. And one of us makes a big announcement!Pregnancy can be a complicated experience, even when it's planned and even when there are no major physical complications. We talk about the weird ways that pregnancy changes not only our bodies, but also our mental and emotional lives. If that wasn't enough to deal with, pregnancy and childbirth can be very costly depending on where you live, what insurance you have, and what options you have for where to give birth.Speaking of costs, we discuss affordable childcare, paid family leave and our need for national policies that cover both. We discuss Jessica Shortall's "The US needs paid family leave--for the sake of its future" and the gender politics of who gets to take leave--paid or unpaid--when it's available.Connecting to our faith, we talk about our perspectives on Mary the Mother of Jesus. In particular we love Rachel Held Evans's piece she wrote on the Magnificat.http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/19/episode-12-pregnancy-and-paid-family-leave/

In this longer, year-end episode, we continue our conversation about bodies--but this time we're talking about pregnancy. And one of us makes a big announcement! Pregnancy can be a complicated experience, even when it's planned and even when there are no major physical complications. We talk about the weird ways that pregnancy changes not only our bodies, but also our mental and emotional lives. If that wasn't enough to deal with, pregnancy and childbirth can be very costly depending on where you live, what insurance you have, and what options you have for where to give birth. Speaking of costs, we discuss affordable childcare, paid family leave and our need for national policies that cover both. We discuss Jessica Shortall's "The US needs paid family leave--for the sake of its future" and the gender politics of who gets to take leave--paid or unpaid--when it's available. Connecting to our faith, we talk about our perspectives on Mary the Mother of Jesus. In particular we love Rachel Held Evans's piece she wrote on the Magnificat. <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/19/episode-12-pregnancy-and-paid-family-leave/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/19/episode-12-pregnancy-and-paid-family-leave/</a>

Pregnancy and Paid Family Leave

We discuss the complicated and often toxic diet, fitness, and "wellness" culture that feeds us the myth that in order to be our best selves, we have to lose weight, get into shape, and achieve our dream bodies.In our pursuits to be "healthy" (meaning thin), we end up doing a lot of unhealthy (and expensive) things! Plus we don't even have a shared understanding of what healthy means--not even among medical professionals. We attach all kinds of character attributes to the way our bodies look and what we do them. If we eat something healthy, we’re “good.” If we eat a treat, we’re “bad.” There's no in between.Achieving health is more than a personal quest. It's also a justice issue. We talk about how systemic poverty forces people to make hard choices between buying healthy food and paying the light bill, especially poor families with young children.We also call out the ways that churches have bought into this toxic diet and fitness culture--and have even profited from it.http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/07/episode-11-bodies-health-and-wellness/

We discuss the complicated and often toxic diet, fitness, and "wellness" culture that feeds us the myth that in order to be our best selves, we have to lose weight, get into shape, and achieve our dream bodies. In our pursuits to be "healthy" (meaning thin), we end up doing a lot of unhealthy (and expensive) things! Plus we don't even have a shared understanding of what healthy means--not even among medical professionals. We attach all kinds of character attributes to the way our bodies look and what we do them. If we eat something healthy, we’re “good.” If we eat a treat, we’re “bad.” There's no in between. Achieving health is more than a personal quest. It's also a justice issue. We talk about how systemic poverty forces people to make hard choices between buying healthy food and paying the light bill, especially poor families with young children. We also call out the ways that churches have bought into this toxic diet and fitness culture--and have even profited from it. <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/07/episode-11-bodies-health-and-wellness/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2017/12/07/episode-11-bodies-health-and-wellness/</a>

Bodies, Health, and Wellness

#Blessed. What about this public display of gratitude makes us cringe? In this episode about gratitude, Ashley and Katey share their thoughts on the perfunctory “thank you” we were taught as kids, what blessings are all about, and the performative nature of #blessed.It goes without saying, but in this season of giving thanks, we are incredibly thankful for our patrons, listeners, and supporters. Y’all are the best! (Want to help us keep making new episodes? Head on over to patreon.com/kindreds to support us today.)Check out the full show notes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/11/26/episode-38-gratitude-blessed-and-blessings/

#Blessed. What about this public display of gratitude makes us cringe? In this episode about gratitude, Ashley and Katey share their thoughts on the perfunctory “thank you” we were taught as kids, what blessings are all about, and the performative nature of #blessed. It goes without saying, but in this season of giving thanks, we are incredibly thankful for our patrons, listeners, and supporters. Y’all are the best! (Want to help us keep making new episodes? Head on over to <a href="http://patreon.com/kindreds" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/kindreds</a> to support us today.) Check out the full show notes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/11/26/episode-38-gratitude-blessed-and-blessings/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/11/26/episode-38-gratitude-blessed-and-blessings/</a>

Gratitude, Blessed, and Blessings

Have you ever been interested in the witchy side of spirituality? You’re in luck! We are talking all about the mystical aspects of our spirituality that we don’t usually tap into during traditional religious services. How do we go about discovering our inner voice? And when we’ve uncovered it, how do we honor it?In this episode we explore different definitions of mysticism, distinguish it from the term “New Age, ” and talk about how we can all be mystics. We look into ancient sacred texts that didn’t make it into the Christian canon, share our thoughts on the gaining popularity of witchcraft, and try to connect the dots between mysticism, sexism, and racism.For the full shownotes, visit http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/01/20/episode-40-mysticism-and-inner-wisdom/

Have you ever been interested in the witchy side of spirituality? You’re in luck! We are talking all about the mystical aspects of our spirituality that we don’t usually tap into during traditional religious services. How do we go about discovering our inner voice? And when we’ve uncovered it, how do we honor it? In this episode we explore different definitions of mysticism, distinguish it from the term “New Age, ” and talk about how we can all be mystics. We look into ancient sacred texts that didn’t make it into the Christian canon, share our thoughts on the gaining popularity of witchcraft, and try to connect the dots between mysticism, sexism, and racism. For the full shownotes, visit <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/01/20/episode-40-mysticism-and-inner-wisdom/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/01/20/episode-40-mysticism-and-inner-wisdom/</a>

Mysticism and Inner Wisdom

This episode is all about getting older. We talk about how old we are now (34 and 35, respectively), how we feel about being in our thirties, what our bodies are like, what we’re afraid of and excited about around getting older, and what advice we’d give our younger selves.Full shownotes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/03/11/episode-30-aging-into-our-thirties/

This episode is all about getting older. We talk about how old we are now (34 and 35, respectively), how we feel about being in our thirties, what our bodies are like, what we’re afraid of and excited about around getting older, and what advice we’d give our younger selves. Full shownotes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/03/11/episode-30-aging-into-our-thirties/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/03/11/episode-30-aging-into-our-thirties/</a>

Aging into Our Thirties

Why is making friends in adulthood so tough?  On this episode Ashley and Katey discuss the ways that we've tried (and failed) to find friends, how we've learned to change our friendship expectations over time, and some ways that we carved out space for friendship in our busy schedules (even with young kiddos!). If you're looking to make new friends, here are some things you might try: Consider making your home (or a space you like to go) the place where people gather. Invite folks for a potluck dinner, a board game night, or a celebration of a minor holiday. Yes, you'll have to clean up before (and after), but it'll probably be worth it. Ask your friends to connect you with their friends. Think friend blind dates. When an opportunity comes along, say yes. Take the risk and dive in. If you can't get together at the proposed time or if you need to cancel, apologize and make a specific plan to meet up in the very near future.  Err on the generous side. Be the one to invite others. Let go of what others "should" do and do what you want to do. Make community happen on your terms. What We're Reading and Listening To   Ashley recently finished Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson about his work at the Equal Justice Initiative, an organization that provides legal defense for people who can’t afford it.  Ashley describes the writing style as "John Grisham-like," which will engross you from the start. Stevenson ends the book by suggesting practical ways for citizens to get involved with ending mass incarceration. Katey devoured an advanced copy of Linda Kay Klein's now-available book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She takes on the purity movement in a no-holds-barred-kind of way that Kindreds listeners will just love. (If you haven't listened to our episode "Dating Rules," go check it out.)  Kindreds of the Moment Katey shares about her newest professional endeavor as the newest team member of Crouch &amp; Associates, a performance consulting firm that truly lives into the values we espouse to our clients. If you're involved with a nonprofit organization that needs assistance with fundraising, please reach out to us. Stuff We Talked About The Little Book of Lykke  11 Perfectly Introverted Ways To Make Friends As An Adult” Next time on Kindreds  we'll be talking about meditation, prayer, and spiritual practices. Visit the shownotes here: http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/08/28/episode-23-friendship-in-adulthood/ Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show www.patreon.com/kindreds

Why is making friends in adulthood so tough?  On this episode Ashley and Katey discuss the ways that we've tried (and failed) to find friends, how we've learned to change our friendship expectations over time, and some ways that we carved out space for friendship in our busy schedules (even with young kiddos!). If you're looking to make new friends, here are some things you might try: Consider making your home (or a space you like to go) the place where people gather. Invite folks for a potluck dinner, a board game night, or a celebration of a minor holiday. Yes, you'll have to clean up before (and after), but it'll probably be worth it. Ask your friends to connect you with their friends. Think friend blind dates. When an opportunity comes along, say yes. Take the risk and dive in. If you can't get together at the proposed time or if you need to cancel, apologize and make a specific plan to meet up in the very near future.  Err on the generous side. Be the one to invite others. Let go of what others "should" do and do what you want to do. Make community happen on your terms. What We're Reading and Listening To  Ashley recently finished Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson about his work at the Equal Justice Initiative, an organization that provides legal defense for people who can’t afford it.  Ashley describes the writing style as "John Grisham-like," which will engross you from the start. Stevenson ends the book by suggesting practical ways for citizens to get involved with ending mass incarceration. Katey devoured an advanced copy of Linda Kay Klein's now-available book Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She takes on the purity movement in a no-holds-barred-kind of way that Kindreds listeners will just love. (If you haven't listened to our episode "Dating Rules," go check it out.)  Kindreds of the Moment Katey shares about her newest professional endeavor as the newest team member of Crouch &amp; Associates, a performance consulting firm that truly lives into the values we espouse to our clients. If you're involved with a nonprofit organization that needs assistance with fundraising, please reach out to us. Stuff We Talked About The Little Book of Lykke  11 Perfectly Introverted Ways To Make Friends As An Adult” Next time on Kindreds  we'll be talking about meditation, prayer, and spiritual practices. Visit the shownotes here: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/08/28/episode-23-friendship-in-adulthood/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2018/08/28/episode-23-friendship-in-adulthood/</a> Have you pledged to support Kindreds on our Patreon page? You can sign up in less than a minute–and for as little as $1 a month. Thanks for helping us cover the cost of making, producing, and sharing this show <a href="http://www.patreon.com/kindreds" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/kindreds</a>

Friendship in Adulthood

On this special episode Ashley interviews Katey about her newly released book Women Rise Up: Sacred Stories of Resistance for Today's Revolution. It's a timely take on the tenacious women of the Bible and a fresh look at how to discuss ancient texts in the context of today's struggle for gender justiceWomen Rise Up is a great option for summer book clubs, bible studies, and youth group gatherings. There's even a free discussion guide available on Katey's website. www.kateyzeh.com/women-rise-upWe honor the legacy of Rachel Held Evans who touched us both with her writing and her generous spirit. We are so saddened by her tragic death, and we are challenged to honor her legacy of curiosity, generosity, and community in the ways that we move through the world.Read the full show notes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/05/22/episode-32-women-rise-up/

On this special episode Ashley interviews Katey about her newly released book Women Rise Up: Sacred Stories of Resistance for Today's Revolution. It's a timely take on the tenacious women of the Bible and a fresh look at how to discuss ancient texts in the context of today's struggle for gender justice Women Rise Up is a great option for summer book clubs, bible studies, and youth group gatherings. There's even a free discussion guide available on Katey's website. <a href="http://www.kateyzeh.com/women-rise-up" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.kateyzeh.com/women-rise-up</a> We honor the legacy of Rachel Held Evans who touched us both with her writing and her generous spirit. We are so saddened by her tragic death, and we are challenged to honor her legacy of curiosity, generosity, and community in the ways that we move through the world. Read the full show notes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/05/22/episode-32-women-rise-up/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/05/22/episode-32-women-rise-up/</a>

Women Rise Up

From "life-hacking" productivity and personality tests, to relationship advice gurus and Christian based self-improvement, the genre of self-help is vast and wide. In this episode we dive into the self-help atmosphere with reflections on some of the best self-help books we've read, tried, and continue to live by.  We also explore the ways in which we have been taught that self-help is and isn't compatible with faith.Read the full show notes:  http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/09/30/episode-37-adventures-in-self-help/

From "life-hacking" productivity and personality tests, to relationship advice gurus and Christian based self-improvement, the genre of self-help is vast and wide. In this episode we dive into the self-help atmosphere with reflections on some of the best self-help books we've read, tried, and continue to live by.  We also explore the ways in which we have been taught that self-help is and isn't compatible with faith. Read the full show notes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/09/30/episode-37-adventures-in-self-help/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2019/09/30/episode-37-adventures-in-self-help/</a>

Adventures in Self-Help

The stats don't lie.	•	1 in 4 U.S. women will have an abortion by the time she turns 45. 	•	Up to 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage.	•	10% of all couples experience some form of infertility. Reproductive loss is common. Incredibly common. So why don't we talk about it more? Because we're uncomfortable with embodiment. With death. With grief. And so in our silence, we isolate those who are suffering in solitude. That's why we decided to dedicate this episode to reproductive loss: to explain what it is (it's way more than miscarriage) and share ways to journey alongside those who are hurting. We can't make anyone's grief go away, but we can help someone feel less alone. Full shownotes: http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/02/17/episode-41-reproductive-loss/

The stats don't lie. 	•	1 in 4 U.S. women will have an abortion by the time she turns 45.  	•	Up to 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. 	•	10% of all couples experience some form of infertility. Reproductive loss is common. Incredibly common. So why don't we talk about it more? Because we're uncomfortable with embodiment. With death. With grief. And so in our silence, we isolate those who are suffering in solitude. That's why we decided to dedicate this episode to reproductive loss: to explain what it is (it's way more than miscarriage) and share ways to journey alongside those who are hurting. We can't make anyone's grief go away, but we can help someone feel less alone. Full shownotes: <a href="http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/02/17/episode-41-reproductive-loss/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kindredspodcast.com/2020/02/17/episode-41-reproductive-loss/</a>

Reproductive Loss

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