Danny Oakley

Doris Harris

Episode 29 Danny Oakley and Doris Harris Part 2; The TimelineIn this episode, we continue searching for clues in the February, 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris in Afton, Oklahoma. The team dives into the timeline of the murder and looks closer at the potential suspects and evidence. Once again, the team is joined by Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit.If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts to try and raise funds to further investigate and potentially solve this case, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme hereTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 29 Danny Oakley and Doris Harris Part 2; The Timeline In this episode, we continue searching for clues in the February, 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris in Afton, Oklahoma. The team dives into the timeline of the murder and looks closer at the potential suspects and evidence. Once again, the team is joined by Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit. If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK<a href="https://delcosheriff.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank"> Sheriff's cold case unit</a> You can call (918) 253-4531 If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts to try and raise funds to further investigate and potentially solve this case, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/citizen-detective-delaware-county-homicide-fund?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=product&amp;utm_campaign=p_email%2B4803-donation-alert-v5" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Danny Oakley and Doris Harris Part 2; The Timeline

Episode 28 Danny Oakley and Doris HarrisWe kick off our partnership with Delaware County, Oklahoma in examining some of their cold &amp; unsolved cases, with the February 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris.On the morning of February 21st, 1996,firefighters responded to a housefire in Afton, Oklahoma. Inside one of the bedrooms responders found the bodies of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris. Both victims had been shot once in the head.Investigators spoke to many witnesses who reported that Danny was in fear of being arrested or killed in the days before his death. Danny was reported to be a major drug dealer in the area. One theory was that the couple was killed because of drug money owed to a supplier. Another theory was that they were murdered because of a feud between Danny and a different man.The day after the killings, a man was found passed out behind the wheel of one of the victim’s vehicles eighteen miles away. The man was arrested on other charges and questioned about the murders. Questioning led police to another man who reportedly spent the day before with the victims. As each witness told their tale, police quickly realized they had a long list of potential suspects in the case, yet to date, the case remains unsolved, and the families of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris are still awaiting justice.Out guests in this episode include Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit, and Journalist Sheila Stogsdill who has covered this case extensively.If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @sstogsdill@ksn16.tv or phone at (918)-791-1962In the next episode of Citizen Detective, we will wrap up our coverage of the Oakley/Harris case. If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme here To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 28 Danny Oakley and Doris Harris We kick off our partnership with Delaware County, Oklahoma in examining some of their cold &amp; unsolved cases, with the February 1996 murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris. On the morning of February 21st, 1996,firefighters responded to a housefire in Afton, Oklahoma. Inside one of the bedrooms responders found the bodies of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris. Both victims had been shot once in the head. Investigators spoke to many witnesses who reported that Danny was in fear of being arrested or killed in the days before his death. Danny was reported to be a major drug dealer in the area. One theory was that the couple was killed because of drug money owed to a supplier. Another theory was that they were murdered because of a feud between Danny and a different man. The day after the killings, a man was found passed out behind the wheel of one of the victim’s vehicles eighteen miles away. The man was arrested on other charges and questioned about the murders. Questioning led police to another man who reportedly spent the day before with the victims. As each witness told their tale, police quickly realized they had a long list of potential suspects in the case, yet to date, the case remains unsolved, and the families of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris are still awaiting justice. Out guests in this episode include Stephanie Bishop; prosecutor and director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit, and Journalist Sheila Stogsdill who has covered this case extensively. If you have any information about the murders of Danny Oakley and Doris Harris, please contact the Delaware County, OK<a href="https://delcosheriff.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank"> Sheriff's cold case unit</a> You can call (918) 253-4531 You can reach Sheila Stogsdill with tips via email @sstogsdill@ksn16.tv or phone at (918)-791-1962 In the next episode of Citizen Detective, we will wrap up our coverage of the Oakley/Harris case. If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/citizen-detective-delaware-county-homicide-fund?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=product&amp;utm_campaign=p_email%2B4803-donation-alert-v5" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Danny Oakley and Doris Harris

Episode 27 Delaware County Case PreviewsAuthorities in Delaware County,Oklahoma have asked for the team's help in bringing attention to several unsolved and cold cases in their jurisdiction. We have agreed to help, but it's important to narrow down which cases have the most potential to be solved, so in this episode, we are joined by Stephanie Bishop, Director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit and prosecutor for the Cherokee Nation in Delaware County. She runs through the cases with us to see which ones we will tackle in more depth in upcoming episodes of the show. Our goal is to help raise funds to work some of these cases to the fullest extent that they can be worked, and to bring attention to ALL of the unsolved cases that Delaware County has on the books. If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme here If you have any information about any of the following cases, please contact the Delaware County, OK Sheriff's cold case unit You can call (918) 253-4531Johnnie Halbert Ball (male 60) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since September 1988. Declared dead in 1996.Georgie/Georgia Cannaday (female 48) was murdered in her home in Jay, Oklahoma in 1973.Dustin Ray Carver, (male 20) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since March 2014.Aubrey Dameron, (transgender female 25) missing from Grove, Oklahoma since March 2019.Johnny Lee Eller, (male 34) was found dead of a gunshot wound while on vacation at Red 11 Port Resort in Grove, Oklahoma.Misty Dawn Faulkner, (female, 29) missing since January 2011 from Eucha, Oklahoma.Doris M. Harris and Dan "Danny" Oakley, (Female, 40, male, 37) were found shot to death in Oakley's mobile home near Afton, Oklahoma in February 1996.Barbara Johnson-Willard, (female, 29) missing from Colcord, Oklahoma since June 1996.Timur Mardeyev, (male, 27) Missing from Grove, Oklahoma since November 2011.Phillip Porter, (male, 56) was found dead in his home with his throat cut in January 2012. Ruled a suicide.Brett Adam Scheele, (male, 37) was found dead in a woodsy area in Colcord, Oklahoma in December 2021.Peggy Sweeten, (female, 52) missing from her home in Grove, Oklahoma since January 1988.Christopher Teel, (male, 32) was last seen on January 2, 2017, in Jay, Oklahoma. Remains found in February 2023.Tyson Wright, (male, 49) was found dead in burned vehicle in the Zena area in January 2021.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 27 Delaware County Case Previews Authorities in Delaware County,Oklahoma have asked for the team's help in bringing attention to several unsolved and cold cases in their jurisdiction. We have agreed to help, but it's important to narrow down which cases have the most potential to be solved, so in this episode, we are joined by Stephanie Bishop, Director of the Delaware County Cold Case Unit and prosecutor for the Cherokee Nation in Delaware County. She runs through the cases with us to see which ones we will tackle in more depth in upcoming episodes of the show. Our goal is to help raise funds to work some of these cases to the fullest extent that they can be worked, and to bring attention to ALL of the unsolved cases that Delaware County has on the books. If you can contribute to our Gofundme efforts, your help would be greatly appreciated. You can learn more about our Gofundme <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/citizen-detective-delaware-county-homicide-fund?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=product&amp;utm_campaign=p_email%2B4803-donation-alert-v5" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> If you have any information about any of the following cases, please contact the Delaware County, OK<a href="https://delcosheriff.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank"> Sheriff's cold case unit</a> You can call (918) 253-4531 Johnnie Halbert Ball (male 60) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since September 1988. Declared dead in 1996. Georgie/Georgia Cannaday (female 48) was murdered in her home in Jay, Oklahoma in 1973. Dustin Ray Carver, (male 20) missing from Kansas, Oklahoma since March 2014. Aubrey Dameron, (transgender female 25) missing from Grove, Oklahoma since March 2019. Johnny Lee Eller, (male 34) was found dead of a gunshot wound while on vacation at Red 11 Port Resort in Grove, Oklahoma. Misty Dawn Faulkner, (female, 29) missing since January 2011 from Eucha, Oklahoma. Doris M. Harris and Dan "Danny" Oakley, (Female, 40, male, 37) were found shot to death in Oakley's mobile home near Afton, Oklahoma in February 1996. Barbara Johnson-Willard, (female, 29) missing from Colcord, Oklahoma since June 1996. Timur Mardeyev, (male, 27) Missing from Grove, Oklahoma since November 2011. Phillip Porter, (male, 56) was found dead in his home with his throat cut in January 2012. Ruled a suicide. Brett Adam Scheele, (male, 37) was found dead in a woodsy area in Colcord, Oklahoma in December 2021. Peggy Sweeten, (female, 52) missing from her home in Grove, Oklahoma since January 1988. Christopher Teel, (male, 32) was last seen on January 2, 2017, in Jay, Oklahoma. Remains found in February 2023. Tyson Wright, (male, 49) was found dead in burned vehicle in the Zena area in January 2021. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Delaware County Case Previews

Episode 26 Mr. CruelIn the late 1980s and early 1990's, a serial predator targeted young girls in the Melbourne, Australia area. He would enter homes with a weapon subduing family members while sexually assaulting or abducting young female victims. Often, he wore a balaclava to disguise his face. Eventually, at least one one of his attacks and abductions resulted in murder. Despite police a lot of clues to work with, much of them provided by Mr Cruel's brave young victims, the case remains unsolved to this day. The Citizen Detective team discusses the various suspects in this case, and whether there may be other victims. They also discuss how modern technology and DNA Science, may be able to help ID this predator once and for all. Geoprofiler Douglas MacGregor, who has heavily researched this case and has been a guest on the show before, is back to lend his expertise to the discussion.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 26 Mr. Cruel In the late 1980s and early 1990's, a serial predator targeted young girls in the Melbourne, Australia area. He would enter homes with a weapon subduing family members while sexually assaulting or abducting young female victims. Often, he wore a balaclava to disguise his face. Eventually, at least one one of his attacks and abductions resulted in murder. Despite police a lot of clues to work with, much of them provided by Mr Cruel's brave young victims, the case remains unsolved to this day. The Citizen Detective team discusses the various suspects in this case, and whether there may be other victims. They also discuss how modern technology and DNA Science, may be able to help ID this predator once and for all. <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGeoProfiler" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Geoprofiler Douglas MacGregor</a>, who has heavily researched this case and has been a guest on the show before, is back to lend his expertise to the discussion. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Mr. Cruel

Episode 25 The West Memphis ThreeIn this episode, the team is joined by Bob Ruff of the Truth and Justice Podcast to explore one of the biggest unsolved cases in the true crime world; The West Memphis Three.On May 5, 1993, Eight year olds Christopher Byers, Michael Moore, and Stevie Branch went out on their bikes in West Memphis, Arkansas, and didn't come home. A search led to the discovery of their bodies in a creek area known as Robin Hood Hills. All 3 had been murdered; the victims of blunt force trauma, and drowning. They were nude, and bound, and it appeared to investigators that at least one of them had been mutilated. In an era of 'Satanic Panic', police quickly focused their attention on 3 local young men, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. They apparently were suspected because of their goth like appearance, and because they believed that that at least one of them, Damien Echols, was a Satanist. With no physical evidence connecting any of the 3 men to the crimes, it was a false confession, and lying witnesses that led to them being convicted for the murders. The 3 men served 18 years in prison before being released after the trio signed Alford Pleas in which they maintained their innocence but acknowledged that prosecutors have evidence to convict them. As part of a plea deal, they were given time served as their sentences.Now that the 3 are out of prison, they maintain their innocence, and want their names cleared once and for all, and for the real killer to be brought to justice. They have pushed to have physical evidence in the case tested for DNA that might clear them, but the state has refused to allow that to happen.30 years later, the case remains at a stand still. Did the police arrest the right men, or did the real killer get away with the brutal murders of 3 little boys? In this episode, the team sifts thru the details and evidence in the case, to figure out what happened, and who might be responsible. Bob Ruff worked on the documentary The Forgotten West Memphis Three that focuses on this case, and he shared his expertise and insights with the team.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 25 The West Memphis Three In this episode, the team is joined by <a href="https://www.truthandjusticepod.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Bob Ruff of the Truth and Justice Podcast </a>to explore one of the biggest unsolved cases in the true crime world; The West Memphis Three. On May 5, 1993, Eight year olds Christopher Byers, Michael Moore, and Stevie Branch went out on their bikes in West Memphis, Arkansas, and didn't come home. A search led to the discovery of their bodies in a creek area known as Robin Hood Hills. All 3 had been murdered; the victims of blunt force trauma, and drowning. They were nude, and bound, and it appeared to investigators that at least one of them had been mutilated. In an era of 'Satanic Panic', police quickly focused their attention on 3 local young men, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. They apparently were suspected because of their goth like appearance, and because they believed that that at least one of them, Damien Echols, was a Satanist. With no physical evidence connecting any of the 3 men to the crimes, it was a false confession, and lying witnesses that led to them being convicted for the murders. The 3 men served 18 years in prison before being released after the trio signed Alford Pleas in which they maintained their innocence but acknowledged that prosecutors have evidence to convict them. As part of a plea deal, they were given time served as their sentences. Now that the 3 are out of prison, they maintain their innocence, and want their names cleared once and for all, and for the real killer to be brought to justice. They have pushed to have physical evidence in the case tested for DNA that might clear them, but the state has refused to allow that to happen. 30 years later, the case remains at a stand still. Did the police arrest the right men, or did the real killer get away with the brutal murders of 3 little boys? In this episode, the team sifts thru the details and evidence in the case, to figure out what happened, and who might be responsible. Bob Ruff worked on the documentary The Forgotten West Memphis Three that focuses on this case, and he shared his expertise and insights with the team. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The West Memphis Three

Lizzie Borden

Episode 24 Lizzie BordenOn August 4th, 1892, a shocking and brutal double murder took place in Fall River, Massachusetts, and became one of America's most infamous and discussed cases. Andrew Borden, a wealthy businessman, and his wife Abby were found hacked to death in their home. They had been killed with an axe. Word of the bloody crime scene and shocking crime quickly got out to area residents who wondered if a madman was living amongst them. But suspicion quickly fell on one of Andrew's own Daughters, Lizzie. At times, her story from that day changed, and witnesses observed her doing suspicious things. She was eventually tried for the murder of her father and stepmother, but acquitted. No other arrests in the case were ever made. Did Lizzie get away with murder, or might there be more than meets the eye? Over a century later, unanswered questions remain, and the case continues to captivate people. In this episode, the team dives into this legendary case in an effort to see if there is any way to solve this case once and for all.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 24 Lizzie Borden On August 4th, 1892, a shocking and brutal double murder took place in Fall River, Massachusetts, and became one of America's most infamous and discussed cases. Andrew Borden, a wealthy businessman, and his wife Abby were found hacked to death in their home. They had been killed with an axe. Word of the bloody crime scene and shocking crime quickly got out to area residents who wondered if a madman was living amongst them. But suspicion quickly fell on one of Andrew's own Daughters, Lizzie. At times, her story from that day changed, and witnesses observed her doing suspicious things. She was eventually tried for the murder of her father and stepmother, but acquitted. No other arrests in the case were ever made. Did Lizzie get away with murder, or might there be more than meets the eye? Over a century later, unanswered questions remain, and the case continues to captivate people. In this episode, the team dives into this legendary case in an effort to see if there is any way to solve this case once and for all. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Episode 23 The Texarkana PhantomFrom late Winter to the Spring of 1946, a hooded killer dubbed 'The Phantom' terrorized the sleely Texarkana region of Texas and Arkansas. In a series of moonlight attacks mostly on youg couples parked on lover's lanes, the killer is believed to have been responsible for at least 5 deaths. The attacks were brutal, and sexual in nature. Law enforcement at the time scrambled to catch the killer before he struck again, but as suddenly as the attacks started, they ended.The killer was never caught, but several possible suspects were identified. Can the Citizen Detective team work with 77 year old clues to find some answers, or is the case doomed to go unsolved? Tune in to find out. Ned Dehan from Black Box online Radio is the guest in this episode.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 23 The Texarkana Phantom From late Winter to the Spring of 1946, a hooded killer dubbed 'The Phantom' terrorized the sleely Texarkana region of Texas and Arkansas. In a series of moonlight attacks mostly on youg couples parked on lover's lanes, the killer is believed to have been responsible for at least 5 deaths. The attacks were brutal, and sexual in nature. Law enforcement at the time scrambled to catch the killer before he struck again, but as suddenly as the attacks started, they ended. The killer was never caught, but several possible suspects were identified. Can the Citizen Detective team work with 77 year old clues to find some answers, or is the case doomed to go unsolved? Tune in to find out. Ned Dehan from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnOTVnNJOgIy58M1Vh5iMrA" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Black Box online Radio</a> is the guest in this episode. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Texarkana Phantom

Episode 22 The Zodiac Killer Part 3In this episode, we wrap up our 3 part coverage of the Zodiac Killer, examining his confirmed and unconfirmed letters, and taking a closer look at some of the known suspects.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 22 The Zodiac Killer Part 3 In this episode, we wrap up our 3 part coverage of the Zodiac Killer, examining his confirmed and unconfirmed letters, and taking a closer look at some of the known suspects. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Zodiac Killer Part 3

Episode 21 The Zodiac Killer Part 2In the second part of our Zodiac Killer coverage, we explore 2 separate attacks. First we examine the September 1969 attack on Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell in which the killer wore an executioner's hood while he repeatedly stabbed the couple in broad daylight at Napa County's tranquil Lake Berryessa. Next we look at the October, 1969 murder of cab driver Paul Stine in which he shot Stine in San Francisco's most upscale neighborhood signaling a departure from the couple's normal MO of targeting younger couples. After the murder of Paul Stine, there was never a confirmed Zodiac attack again.We are joined by GeoProfiler Douglas MacGregor who provides us with analysis of the Zodiac's crime locationsTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 21 The Zodiac Killer Part 2 In the second part of our Zodiac Killer coverage, we explore 2 separate attacks. First we examine the September 1969 attack on Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell in which the killer wore an executioner's hood while he repeatedly stabbed the couple in broad daylight at Napa County's tranquil Lake Berryessa. Next we look at the October, 1969 murder of cab driver Paul Stine in which he shot Stine in San Francisco's most upscale neighborhood signaling a departure from the couple's normal MO of targeting younger couples. After the murder of Paul Stine, there was never a confirmed Zodiac attack again. We are joined by <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGeoProfiler" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">GeoProfiler Douglas MacGregor</a> who provides us with analysis of the Zodiac's crime locations To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Zodiac Killer Part 2

Episode 20 The Zodiac Killer Part 1On December 20, 1968, just after 11pm, 2 teenagers David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen were parked on sleepy and dark Lake Herman Rd on the outskirts of Vallejo, CA. The spot where they parked was one often chosen by young people to due it's privacy. On this night, they weren't alone. A killer pulled up beside their car. What happened next is not known, but what is known is that minutes later, a woman driving by the scene found both of them shot lying near David's car. She raced off to get help and brought police back to the scene. Responding officers found David barely clinging to life. He had been shot once behind the ear at close range. 28 feet away, Betty Lou lay dead, the victim of multiple shots to her back. The randomness of the double murder and clear lack of a motive cast a dark cloud over the coming Christmas holiday. As the holidays passed, the murders faded from memory.Seven months later, on the night of July 4, 1969, just a few miles away from where David and Betty Lou had been killed, Darlene Ferrin and Mike Mageau sat talking on a different Lover's lane area in Vallejo; Blue Rock Springs park. Their peaceful night was interrupted around Midnight when a car pulled in behind them. It's driver exited the vehicle and carrying a flashlight, walked up to the passenger side of Darlene's Corvair. WIthout warning, the man shined the flashlight into the car and opened fire shooting Darlene and Mike multiple times. He walked back to his car not realizing that his victims were still alive. When Mike cried out in pain, the shooter came back to the car and shot both Mike and Darlene additional times. He then walked back to his car and drove off leaving Darlene in Mike badly injured. First responders rushed Mike and Darlene from the scene. Darlene would not survive her injuries. While Mike was badly injured, he would recover and provide police with a few details. While police were processing the scene 40 minutes after the shooting, a caller using a phonebooth in Vallejo called the operator and reported the attack. But he wasn't a witness, he was the shooter, and he provided details of his crime. He also took credit for the 1968 Lake Herman Rd murders. But the killer was far from done, and from that moment on, using the moniker 'The Zodiac', he would terrorize the SF Bay area for the nect 5 years.This is part 1 of a multi-episode deep dive into one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries; the Zodiac MurdersTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 20 The Zodiac Killer Part 1 On December 20, 1968, just after 11pm, 2 teenagers David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen were parked on sleepy and dark Lake Herman Rd on the outskirts of Vallejo, CA. The spot where they parked was one often chosen by young people to due it's privacy. On this night, they weren't alone. A killer pulled up beside their car. What happened next is not known, but what is known is that minutes later, a woman driving by the scene found both of them shot lying near David's car. She raced off to get help and brought police back to the scene. Responding officers found David barely clinging to life. He had been shot once behind the ear at close range. 28 feet away, Betty Lou lay dead, the victim of multiple shots to her back. The randomness of the double murder and clear lack of a motive cast a dark cloud over the coming Christmas holiday. As the holidays passed, the murders faded from memory. Seven months later, on the night of July 4, 1969, just a few miles away from where David and Betty Lou had been killed, Darlene Ferrin and Mike Mageau sat talking on a different Lover's lane area in Vallejo; Blue Rock Springs park. Their peaceful night was interrupted around Midnight when a car pulled in behind them. It's driver exited the vehicle and carrying a flashlight, walked up to the passenger side of Darlene's Corvair. WIthout warning, the man shined the flashlight into the car and opened fire shooting Darlene and Mike multiple times. He walked back to his car not realizing that his victims were still alive. When Mike cried out in pain, the shooter came back to the car and shot both Mike and Darlene additional times. He then walked back to his car and drove off leaving Darlene in Mike badly injured. First responders rushed Mike and Darlene from the scene. Darlene would not survive her injuries. While Mike was badly injured, he would recover and provide police with a few details. While police were processing the scene 40 minutes after the shooting, a caller using a phonebooth in Vallejo called the operator and reported the attack. But he wasn't a witness, he was the shooter, and he provided details of his crime. He also took credit for the 1968 Lake Herman Rd murders. But the killer was far from done, and from that moment on, using the moniker 'The Zodiac', he would terrorize the SF Bay area for the nect 5 years. This is part 1 of a multi-episode deep dive into one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries; the Zodiac Murders To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Zodiac Killer Part 1

Citizen Detective is hosted by Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and cold case analyst  Dr. Lee Mellor. Each episode of Citizen Detective is recorded live alongside armchair detectives and Citizen Sleuths, and the team is joined by special guests and experts from the world of true crime in an effort to crowd-solve perplexing mysteries and cold casesThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Cheri Jo Bates

Episode 19 Cheri Jo BatesOn October 30, 1966, 18 year old college Freshman Cheri Jo Bates was brutally murdered on her college campus at Riverside City College in Riverside, CA. She was savagely stabbed and her throat slashed. Her murder shocked the quiet Southern CA city. Residents wondered who would kill the pretty and popular cheerleader. Police theorized that Cheri's killer disabled her VW Bug while Cheri was in the college library and when she came out to leave and found her car disabled, the killer came along acting as a good samaritan and offering help. After gaining Cheri's trust, he led her to a dimly lit alley between two abandoned homes on school property and initiated his attack. 30 days after Cheri Jo was killed, an anonymous typed letter was sent to police &amp; the local press claiming responsibility for Cheri Jo's murder. Police initially believed that the confession letter contained details only the killer could know, but in reality, much of what was in the letter was published in AP news stories about the case. Additional letters would come in Cheri Jo's case 6 months after her murder. This time the hand scrawled letters were sent to not only to police and the press, but cruelly, also to Cheri Jo's father. The Riverside Police locked onto a suspect that they felt was a jilted suitor of Cheri Jo's. He was never identified publicly, but was given the moniker 'Bob Barnett' in online discussions of the case. For years, police were interested in this suspect, but did not have enough to build a case against him. Complicating matters, he moved out of the country. When the suspect returned to the US for a visit, police swooped in and obtained his DNA for comparison against DNA in Cheri Jo's case. It seems that the DNA collected from the suspect did not match DNA in the Bates case. But that did not stop Riverside PD from pursuing a case against their favorite suspect. In 1970, a tipster in Riverside read a story about the infamous Zodiac Killer attacks and letters happening in the SF Bay area over 400 miles North of Riverside. Feeling that Cheri's case may be connected to the Zodiac crimes, the tipster reached out to SF Chronicle reporter Paul Avery asking him to see if the cases may be connected. Avery came away convinced that Cheri Jo's case was connected to the Zodiac case. The state's top handwriting expert Sherwood Morrill agreed that writing on letters in the Bates case matched writing in the Zodiac case. Police however were split on the conclusion. While investigators in the Zodiac case were open to the possibility that Cheri Jo Bates was an early Zodiac victim, Riverside PS dismissed the idea, instead focusing on their favorite suspect. Decades later, Cheri Jo's case and the Zodiac case remain hopelessly intertwined, and both are still unsolved.Was Cheri Jo an early Zodiac victim? Or was she the victim of a jilted suitor as Riverside PD suspects? In this episode, the team dives into the clues and evidence; evidence which contains DNA that's half a century old. Can this case be solved, or is it destined to remain a mystery? Tune in to this episode to find out.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 19 Cheri Jo Bates On October 30, 1966, 18 year old college Freshman Cheri Jo Bates was brutally murdered on her college campus at Riverside City College in Riverside, CA. She was savagely stabbed and her throat slashed. Her murder shocked the quiet Southern CA city. Residents wondered who would kill the pretty and popular cheerleader. Police theorized that Cheri's killer disabled her VW Bug while Cheri was in the college library and when she came out to leave and found her car disabled, the killer came along acting as a good samaritan and offering help. After gaining Cheri's trust, he led her to a dimly lit alley between two abandoned homes on school property and initiated his attack. 30 days after Cheri Jo was killed, an anonymous typed letter was sent to police &amp; the local press claiming responsibility for Cheri Jo's murder. Police initially believed that the confession letter contained details only the killer could know, but in reality, much of what was in the letter was published in AP news stories about the case. Additional letters would come in Cheri Jo's case 6 months after her murder. This time the hand scrawled letters were sent to not only to police and the press, but cruelly, also to Cheri Jo's father. The Riverside Police locked onto a suspect that they felt was a jilted suitor of Cheri Jo's. He was never identified publicly, but was given the moniker 'Bob Barnett' in online discussions of the case. For years, police were interested in this suspect, but did not have enough to build a case against him. Complicating matters, he moved out of the country. When the suspect returned to the US for a visit, police swooped in and obtained his DNA for comparison against DNA in Cheri Jo's case. It seems that the DNA collected from the suspect did not match DNA in the Bates case. But that did not stop Riverside PD from pursuing a case against their favorite suspect. In 1970, a tipster in Riverside read a story about the infamous Zodiac Killer attacks and letters happening in the SF Bay area over 400 miles North of Riverside. Feeling that Cheri's case may be connected to the Zodiac crimes, the tipster reached out to SF Chronicle reporter Paul Avery asking him to see if the cases may be connected. Avery came away convinced that Cheri Jo's case was connected to the Zodiac case. The state's top handwriting expert Sherwood Morrill agreed that writing on letters in the Bates case matched writing in the Zodiac case. Police however were split on the conclusion. While investigators in the Zodiac case were open to the possibility that Cheri Jo Bates was an early Zodiac victim, Riverside PS dismissed the idea, instead focusing on their favorite suspect. Decades later, Cheri Jo's case and the Zodiac case remain hopelessly intertwined, and both are still unsolved. Was Cheri Jo an early Zodiac victim? Or was she the victim of a jilted suitor as Riverside PD suspects? In this episode, the team dives into the clues and evidence; evidence which contains DNA that's half a century old. Can this case be solved, or is it destined to remain a mystery? Tune in to this episode to find out. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. 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Episode 18 The Night MarauderBetween 1919 and 1926, a serial predator attacked, raped, and murdered a string of victims in the Knoxville and Alcoa areas of Tennessee. Despite people being on high alert, the attacker who came to be known as the 'Night Marauder' slipped through the cracks under the cover of night looking for victims. At first, he targeted lone women, but then became more brazen and attacked when their were multiple people in one home, or when a husband was home. There were a few people accused of the crime, and one very promising suspect, but the case was never solved. In this episode, the team discusses the case and what clues or evidence there was, and whether or not there is enough to solve the case once and for all. We are joined by GeoProfiler; Douglas MacGregor and Dr. Nancy Locklin-Sofer who has worked extensively on this case.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 18 The Night Marauder Between 1919 and 1926, a serial predator attacked, raped, and murdered a string of victims in the Knoxville and Alcoa areas of Tennessee. Despite people being on high alert, the attacker who came to be known as the 'Night Marauder' slipped through the cracks under the cover of night looking for victims. At first, he targeted lone women, but then became more brazen and attacked when their were multiple people in one home, or when a husband was home. There were a few people accused of the crime, and one very promising suspect, but the case was never solved. In this episode, the team discusses the case and what clues or evidence there was, and whether or not there is enough to solve the case once and for all. We are joined by GeoProfiler; <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGeoProfiler" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Douglas MacGrego</a>r and <a href="https://thenightmarauderproject.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Nancy Locklin-Sofer</a> who has worked extensively on this case. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Night Marauder

Episode 17 The Short Family MurdersIn August 2002, a brutal double murder shocked the residents of the Oak Level community in Henry County, Virginia. Michael and Mary Short were found dead in their home, the victims of an execution style shooting. There was no sign of robbery as cash and other valuable items were in the home. What was missing however was the Short's 9 year old daughter, Jennifer. A search of the area failed to locate her and despite an Amber alert going out, there were no signs of her.As police worked to figure out who murdered this average Virginia family and presumably abducted the youngest member, the community feared that a killer was moving amongst them and was on edge. Six weeks later, a horiffic discovery would take the case in a new direction. Jennifer's decomposed remains were located on a property in Stoneville NC, about 30 miles from the Short home. Like her parents, Jennifer too had been shot to death. An autopsy could not reveal if she has been sexually assaulted. News of the triple murder spread like wild fire through the area between where the Shorts lived, and where Jennifer's remains were found, and soon a potential suspect would emerge. A tip led authorities to investigate a man who lived not far from where Jennifer's remains were found. What tipsters told police about this potential suspect sounded almost too hard to believe, That's because it was.The tipsters had made up a story about this man and police spent time and resources investigating him. The case went cold. Along the way, it was revealed that local police investigating the case were caught up in a string of illegal activities that overshadowed the investigation into the Short Family Murders. New leadership within the police department aided by the State Police &amp; FBI vowed to keep trying to solve the case. One of the few clues police had to work with was a mysterious man in a distinct truck seen parked close to the Short home shortly after the murders. The man described as a White Male in his 40s was seen sitting in a White Single Cab truck with wooden side rails. Police wanted to talk to this man, but he was never identified. Today, more than 20 years after the murders of the Short Family, the case remains unsolved. If you or someone you know has any new details regarding this case you can contact the FBI tip line at 1-800-225-5324 or call crime stoppers at 276-632-7463 or 336-349-9683.In this episode, the team discusses the clues, and possible evidence that may one day reveal the killer or killers of the Short Family.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 17 The Short Family Murders In August 2002, a brutal double murder shocked the residents of the Oak Level community in Henry County, Virginia. Michael and Mary Short were found dead in their home, the victims of an execution style shooting. There was no sign of robbery as cash and other valuable items were in the home. What was missing however was the Short's 9 year old daughter, Jennifer. A search of the area failed to locate her and despite an Amber alert going out, there were no signs of her. As police worked to figure out who murdered this average Virginia family and presumably abducted the youngest member, the community feared that a killer was moving amongst them and was on edge. Six weeks later, a horiffic discovery would take the case in a new direction. Jennifer's decomposed remains were located on a property in Stoneville NC, about 30 miles from the Short home. Like her parents, Jennifer too had been shot to death. An autopsy could not reveal if she has been sexually assaulted. News of the triple murder spread like wild fire through the area between where the Shorts lived, and where Jennifer's remains were found, and soon a potential suspect would emerge. A tip led authorities to investigate a man who lived not far from where Jennifer's remains were found. What tipsters told police about this potential suspect sounded almost too hard to believe, That's because it was.The tipsters had made up a story about this man and police spent time and resources investigating him. The case went cold. Along the way, it was revealed that local police investigating the case were caught up in a string of illegal activities that overshadowed the investigation into the Short Family Murders. New leadership within the police department aided by the State Police &amp; FBI vowed to keep trying to solve the case. One of the few clues police had to work with was a mysterious man in a distinct truck seen parked close to the Short home shortly after the murders. The man described as a White Male in his 40s was seen sitting in a White Single Cab truck with wooden side rails. Police wanted to talk to this man, but he was never identified. Today, more than 20 years after the murders of the Short Family, the case remains unsolved. If you or someone you know has any new details regarding this case you can contact the FBI tip line at 1-800-225-5324 or call crime stoppers at 276-632-7463 or 336-349-9683. In this episode, the team discusses the clues, and possible evidence that may one day reveal the killer or killers of the Short Family. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Short Family Murders

Mary Morris

Episode 16 The Mary Morris MurdersOn October 12, 2000, Mary Henderson Morris, a 48 year old bank loan officer didn't show up for work.The Baytown, Houston area woman was very professional, and very reliable, so her co-workers were alarmed. When her husband Jay Morris became aware that she didn't show up for work, police were called in to look for Mary. According to Jay Morris, his wife had left that morning for work after 6am as usual, and nothing was amiss. Hours later, Mary Morris was found dead in her burning car in a secluded area 3 miles from her home. The fire was so intense, that it took days to identify the body inside as that of Mary Morris, and her cause of death could not be determined. Because a powerful accelerant had been used to start the fire, police suspected that Mary was the victim of a homicide from the beginning, but they were stumped and could not find anyone who had a motive to kill the friendly and professional mother and grandmother. Days later, when Mary's daughter Marilyn went to pick up her mother's effects following the funeral, the mystery took a bizarre turn.Marilyn was told that they were not done processing her mom's remains. She was confused after just burying her mom. After some checking, the authorities confirmed that the remains still in their custody were that of a different Mary Morris; 39 year old Mary McGinnis Morris.Like Mary Henderson Morris, Mary McGinnis Morris was found dead less than 72 hours later in her vehicle in the Houston area. Mary McGinnis Morris, a nurse, had been shot to death. The gun used to kill her was found in her car, and it turned out that it belonged to her husband, Mike Morris. Mike Morris told police that he had given the gun to his wife for protection. Mary had had run-ins with a co worker and apparently was on edge. Police disclosed that a 911 call came in during the Mary McGinnis Morris's murder, and that the murder itself, or parts of it may have been recorded. Although police did not release the 911 call, they said it was chilling. As for Mike Morris, he had an alibi for the time of the murder; he was at a movie with his daughter Katy at the time of the murder. Suspicion fell on the husbands in both cases as is typical in these kinds of murders, but both men lawyered up. Things that they said and did after the murders along with holes in their stories were scrutinized. Other potential suspects were looked at, but to date, no arrests have been made in either case. After being featured in a popular episode of the hit show Unsolved Mysteries, the 'Mary Morris Murders' became a popular case to discuss on online forums like Reddit and Websleuths, and several podcasts have done episodes about the murders. All kinds of theories and rumors have popped up over the years, the most popular being that both women were killed by some sort of inept hitman, but at the end of the day, there is nothing that conclusively proves that. There are similarities in the two cases. Both women were well-liked professional women in the Houston area. They were of similar age and appearance. They had both been found dead in their cars less than 72 hours apart. It was reported that rings were missing from both women, but later that claim would be challenged when one of the rings turned up.The murders of both Mary Henderson Morris and Mary McGinnis Morris remain unsolved and are as popular as ever on discussion forums. Unfortuately, this has led to a lof of misconceptions, inaccuracies, and gossip. In this episode of Citizen Detective, listeners will hear directly from Mary Henderson Morris's daughter Marilyn, and Mary McGinnis Morris's daughter Katy, in an effort to once and for all separate fact from fiction, and help the panel sift through all the puzzling clues and details in the Mary Morris Murders. if you have information about the October, 2000 Houston area murders of Mary Henderson Morris or Mary McGinnis Morris, please call Houston Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPSTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 16 The Mary Morris Murders On October 12, 2000, Mary Henderson Morris, a 48 year old bank loan officer didn't show up for work. The Baytown, Houston area woman was very professional, and very reliable, so her co-workers were alarmed. When her husband Jay Morris became aware that she didn't show up for work, police were called in to look for Mary. According to Jay Morris, his wife had left that morning for work after 6am as usual, and nothing was amiss. Hours later, Mary Morris was found dead in her burning car in a secluded area 3 miles from her home. The fire was so intense, that it took days to identify the body inside as that of Mary Morris, and her cause of death could not be determined. Because a powerful accelerant had been used to start the fire, police suspected that Mary was the victim of a homicide from the beginning, but they were stumped and could not find anyone who had a motive to kill the friendly and professional mother and grandmother. Days later, when Mary's daughter Marilyn went to pick up her mother's effects following the funeral, the mystery took a bizarre turn. Marilyn was told that they were not done processing her mom's remains. She was confused after just burying her mom. After some checking, the authorities confirmed that the remains still in their custody were that of a different Mary Morris; 39 year old Mary McGinnis Morris. Like Mary Henderson Morris, Mary McGinnis Morris was found dead less than 72 hours later in her vehicle in the Houston area. Mary McGinnis Morris, a nurse, had been shot to death. The gun used to kill her was found in her car, and it turned out that it belonged to her husband, Mike Morris. Mike Morris told police that he had given the gun to his wife for protection. Mary had had run-ins with a co worker and apparently was on edge. Police disclosed that a 911 call came in during the Mary McGinnis Morris's murder, and that the murder itself, or parts of it may have been recorded. Although police did not release the 911 call, they said it was chilling. As for Mike Morris, he had an alibi for the time of the murder; he was at a movie with his daughter Katy at the time of the murder. Suspicion fell on the husbands in both cases as is typical in these kinds of murders, but both men lawyered up. Things that they said and did after the murders along with holes in their stories were scrutinized. Other potential suspects were looked at, but to date, no arrests have been made in either case. After being featured in a popular episode of the hit show Unsolved Mysteries, the 'Mary Morris Murders' became a popular case to discuss on online forums like Reddit and Websleuths, and several podcasts have done episodes about the murders. All kinds of theories and rumors have popped up over the years, the most popular being that both women were killed by some sort of inept hitman, but at the end of the day, there is nothing that conclusively proves that. There are similarities in the two cases. Both women were well-liked professional women in the Houston area. They were of similar age and appearance. They had both been found dead in their cars less than 72 hours apart. It was reported that rings were missing from both women, but later that claim would be challenged when one of the rings turned up. The murders of both Mary Henderson Morris and Mary McGinnis Morris remain unsolved and are as popular as ever on discussion forums. Unfortuately, this has led to a lof of misconceptions, inaccuracies, and gossip. In this episode of Citizen Detective, listeners will hear directly from Mary Henderson Morris's daughter Marilyn, and Mary McGinnis Morris's daughter Katy, in an effort to once and for all separate fact from fiction, and help the panel sift through all the puzzling clues and details in the Mary Morris Murders. if you have information about the October, 2000 Houston area murders of Mary Henderson Morris or Mary McGinnis Morris, please call Houston Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. 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The Mary Morris Murders

Episode 15 The DoodlerIn the late 1960s and well into the 1970s, the historic city of San Francisco, CA was overwhelmed by high profile crimes including the Zodiac murders, the Zebra killings, and the SLA/Patty Hurst crime spree. But one series of murders there in the mid 70s failed to grab the public's attention. From January, 1974 until September, 1975, an unknown killer, or killers, quietly targeted San Francisco's gay community. The series of murders was dubbed 'The Doodler' murders, because one potential suspect was an unidentified African-American male who used to sketch portraits of men in local gay bars, perhaps to gain their trust. Despite all attempts to ID this person, police were unsuccessful, but they did discover a strong suspect who remains unnamed publicly. Murders attributed to the Doodler range from half a dozen to more than a dozen. Some possible victims however were said to be lucky enough to escape from the Doodler including a famous actor, and people from the political world. The Doodler case officially remains unsolved. Join the Citizen Detective team as we explore the clues in this case.To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 15 The Doodler In the late 1960s and well into the 1970s, the historic city of San Francisco, CA was overwhelmed by high profile crimes including the Zodiac murders, the Zebra killings, and the SLA/Patty Hurst crime spree. But one series of murders there in the mid 70s failed to grab the public's attention. From January, 1974 until September, 1975, an unknown killer, or killers, quietly targeted San Francisco's gay community. The series of murders was dubbed 'The Doodler' murders, because one potential suspect was an unidentified African-American male who used to sketch portraits of men in local gay bars, perhaps to gain their trust. Despite all attempts to ID this person, police were unsuccessful, but they did discover a strong suspect who remains unnamed publicly. Murders attributed to the Doodler range from half a dozen to more than a dozen. Some possible victims however were said to be lucky enough to escape from the Doodler including a famous actor, and people from the political world. The Doodler case officially remains unsolved. Join the Citizen Detective team as we explore the clues in this case. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Doodler

Episode 14 The Moscow Idaho MurdersThe college town of Moscow, Idaho a population of 25,000 people was shocked and on edge following the brutal November 13, 2022 quadruple murders of 4 college students in their off campus home. The victims Ethan Chapin, 20, Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, were found stabbed to death in a bloody crime scene by other housemates. Police called the murders 'isolated' and 'targeted' and stated that the residents of Moscow were not in danger. But without motives, answers, or an arrest, the community feared for their safety and many students chose to leave the area rather than stay there and continue their studies. The case became front page news and the lead story nationwide as the press descended on Moscow. The police, aided by the FBI, scrambled to find the killer, but motives and leads were in short supply. Finally, a major clue came in the form of a White Hyundai captured on surveillance footage near the crime scene around the time of the attack. Police made a public plea for help in identifying the car.After more than 19,000 tips in the case, police finally made an arrest in late December on the other side of the country. . 28 year old Bryan Kohberger, was arrested in Pennsylvania, and charged with four counts of first degree murder, and one count of felony burglary. He's currently awaiting for a preliminary hearing which won't come until June, 2023. An affidavit shed some light on the investigation into Kohberger, but only scratches the surface. There are still a lot of unanswered questions, and theories. In this episode, the panel discusses what's been reported in the case, and mentioned in the affidavit, and discusses what evidence the authorities may have against the suspect. We also hear from our citizen detectives who share their takes on the case.This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Use promo code Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic MindTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wVisit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.comTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 14 The Moscow Idaho Murders The college town of Moscow, Idaho a population of 25,000 people was shocked and on edge following the brutal November 13, 2022 quadruple murders of 4 college students in their off campus home. The victims Ethan Chapin, 20, Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, were found stabbed to death in a bloody crime scene by other housemates. Police called the murders 'isolated' and 'targeted' and stated that the residents of Moscow were not in danger. But without motives, answers, or an arrest, the community feared for their safety and many students chose to leave the area rather than stay there and continue their studies. The case became front page news and the lead story nationwide as the press descended on Moscow. The police, aided by the FBI, scrambled to find the killer, but motives and leads were in short supply. Finally, a major clue came in the form of a White Hyundai captured on surveillance footage near the crime scene around the time of the attack. Police made a public plea for help in identifying the car. After more than 19,000 tips in the case, police finally made an arrest in late December on the other side of the country. . 28 year old Bryan Kohberger, was arrested in Pennsylvania, and charged with four counts of first degree murder, and one count of felony burglary. He's currently awaiting for a preliminary hearing which won't come until June, 2023. An affidavit shed some light on the investigation into Kohberger, but only scratches the surface. There are still a lot of unanswered questions, and theories. In this episode, the panel discusses what's been reported in the case, and mentioned in the affidavit, and discusses what evidence the authorities may have against the suspect. We also hear from our citizen detectives who share their takes on the case. This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind Use promo code <a href="http://Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic</a> Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic Mind To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> Visit our homepage: <a href="http://Citizendetectivepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Citizendetectivepodcast.com</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Moscow Idaho Murders

Episode 13 Cheryl Lynn Tunnell SpringfieldIn this episode, the team explores the December 25, 1980 murder of 21 year old Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield. Early that Christmas morning, she was found beaten and strangled to death near the Christmas tree in the Fort Worth, TX home that she had recently moved into. An ironing cord was still wrapped around her neck. Cheryl had been sexually assaulted. Just feet away from her in the next room, her young son was found unharmed. In another room, another child slept unharmed as well. Since it was her ex husband who found Cheryl, he became a suspect in the murder, but after cooperating with police, and taking polygraphs, he was ruled out. At Cheryl's funeral, her sister Jan promised Cheryl that she would not stop trying to find her killer, but despite her efforts, the case remains unsolved 42 years later.It came to light that one of Cheryl's roommates had been in a relationship with a violent man who she later married. He had a troubling history of violence; violence that included murder, and he is serving a life sentence in prison. Was he the killer, or a red herring? The team, joined by Cheryl's sister Jan, explores the evidence, and the possibilities.Fort Worth police are actively investigating Springfield's case. Anyone with information is asked to call the FWPD Cold Case Unit at 817-392-4307.Check out the Facebook page for Cheryl's case:https://www.facebook.com/justiceforcheryllynnThis episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic MindTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 13 Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield In this episode, the team explores the December 25, 1980 murder of 21 year old Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield. Early that Christmas morning, she was found beaten and strangled to death near the Christmas tree in the Fort Worth, TX home that she had recently moved into. An ironing cord was still wrapped around her neck. Cheryl had been sexually assaulted. Just feet away from her in the next room, her young son was found unharmed. In another room, another child slept unharmed as well. Since it was her ex husband who found Cheryl, he became a suspect in the murder, but after cooperating with police, and taking polygraphs, he was ruled out. At Cheryl's funeral, her sister Jan promised Cheryl that she would not stop trying to find her killer, but despite her efforts, the case remains unsolved 42 years later. It came to light that one of Cheryl's roommates had been in a relationship with a violent man who she later married. He had a troubling history of violence; violence that included murder, and he is serving a life sentence in prison. Was he the killer, or a red herring? The team, joined by Cheryl's sister Jan, explores the evidence, and the possibilities. Fort Worth police are actively investigating Springfield's case. Anyone with information is asked to call the FWPD Cold Case Unit at 817-392-4307. Check out the Facebook page for Cheryl's case: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/justiceforcheryllynn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/justiceforcheryllynn</a> This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code <a href="http://Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic</a> Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic Mind To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield

Episode 12 Katherine 'Katie' JannessThe big city of Atlanta, GA is a melting pot in many ways. With a population of half a million people, it's as diverse a city as you can find. There are countless people of every race, creed, and religion that call Atlanta home, and there is a very proud, and accpeted LGBTQ community there. Someplace in the big city of Atlanta, a sadistic and vicious killer has managed to get away so far with a brutal crime that shocked residents of Atlanta.In the early morning hours of July 28, 2021, 40 year old Atlanta resident Katherine 'Katie' Janness was murdered in the scrolling Piedmont park along with her beloved dog Bowie. Katie often walked Bowie in the park without incident, but on this occasion, she crossed paths with a cold blooded killer who savagelt stabbed Katie and Bowie to death. Katie was stabbed dozens of times.Even more shocking, her killer carved letters into her body. Sadly, it was Katie's girlfriend Emma who discovered Katie and Bowie dead. She had gone out to search the park for them after they didn't come home.In the aftermath of the murders, it came to light that many of the park's cameras were not working. Had they been operational, this case may be solved. The city has now taken steps to ensure that the park is secure and that cameras are working properly, but sadly, it's too late in this case.The news of the shocking murders of Katie and Bowie understandably left the community on edge, and some residents were wary of venturing out after dark fearing that a maniac was moving amongst them. But did Katie and Bowie die randomly at the hands of a deranged serial killer, or were they targeted by someone who was familiar with them? Could Katie have been killed in a hate crime because she was a Lesbian? Even Katie's girlfriend Emma has been accused of being involved, and police have not publicly cleared her. Unfortuately, there are many questions and possibilities, and not a lot that points in any one direction.Anyone with information about this case can call Crime Stoppers Atlanta at 404-577-8477This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic MindTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 12 Katherine 'Katie' Janness The big city of Atlanta, GA is a melting pot in many ways. With a population of half a million people, it's as diverse a city as you can find. There are countless people of every race, creed, and religion that call Atlanta home, and there is a very proud, and accpeted LGBTQ community there. Someplace in the big city of Atlanta, a sadistic and vicious killer has managed to get away so far with a brutal crime that shocked residents of Atlanta. In the early morning hours of July 28, 2021, 40 year old Atlanta resident Katherine 'Katie' Janness was murdered in the scrolling Piedmont park along with her beloved dog Bowie. Katie often walked Bowie in the park without incident, but on this occasion, she crossed paths with a cold blooded killer who savagelt stabbed Katie and Bowie to death. Katie was stabbed dozens of times.Even more shocking, her killer carved letters into her body. Sadly, it was Katie's girlfriend Emma who discovered Katie and Bowie dead. She had gone out to search the park for them after they didn't come home. In the aftermath of the murders, it came to light that many of the park's cameras were not working. Had they been operational, this case may be solved. The city has now taken steps to ensure that the park is secure and that cameras are working properly, but sadly, it's too late in this case. The news of the shocking murders of Katie and Bowie understandably left the community on edge, and some residents were wary of venturing out after dark fearing that a maniac was moving amongst them. But did Katie and Bowie die randomly at the hands of a deranged serial killer, or were they targeted by someone who was familiar with them? Could Katie have been killed in a hate crime because she was a Lesbian? Even Katie's girlfriend Emma has been accused of being involved, and police have not publicly cleared her. Unfortuately, there are many questions and possibilities, and not a lot that points in any one direction. Anyone with information about this case can call Crime Stoppers Atlanta at 404-577-8477 This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code <a href="http://Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic</a> Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic Mind To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Katherine 'Katie' Janness

Janette Roberson

Episode 11 Janette RobersonIn January, 1983, 27 year old mother and wife Janette Roberson was dealing with a lot. She had recently moved to Reed City, Michigan looking towards a brighter future, but as the year began, she found herself facing issues beyone her control. Janette had recently found out that her husband was having an affair, and the couple were in the midst of a separation. To make matters worse, Janette had been receiving troubling phone calls from an unknown caller at her home. But Janette focused on rasing her kids, and on her job at the local Gambles store in Reed City. Janette's work in the pet department located in the basement of Gambles ensured her a certain amount of peace, but it's location being both quiet and secluded, would provide cover for a dangerous killer. On January, 19, 1983, Janette worked her shift as she normally did, and somehow despite a store full of employees and customers above her, someone made their way into the basement and brutally stabbed Janette to death. The attack on her was brutal, and sexual in nature. What was perhaps most shocking was that the killer had spent a good amount of time with Janette in the basement before slipping away unnoticed. Police descended on the gruesome and bloody scene, and what they found was something that they had not seen before in Reed City, a town of only 2,000 people. Police scrambled to find both potential witnesses and suspects. They looked at several people including Janette's husband Alvin, but he was eventually cleared. Sketches were created and circulated of a young man who was a possible person of interest in the case, and police hoped they would ID him. They never did, and the case went cold. Almost 40 years later, the murder of Janette Roberson remains unsolved. Can clues and evidence collected back in 1983 perhaps lead investigators to the identity of Janette's killer, or  is Janette case destined to go unsolved? In this episode, the Citizen Detective team discusses the possibilities, share their theories. They are joined by Janette's sister, Lana Jarvie who walks the team through what she's been able to learn about her sister's senseless, and violent murder.Tips and information about Janette’s case may be submitted to both theJanette Roberson and Who Murdered Janette Roberson Facebookpages at:https://www.facebook.com/janette.roberson.1&amp;https://www.facebook.com/groups/177173285814467All tips received on Facebook will be forwarded to police. Youmay also call Reed City Police Chief Chuck Davis at 231-832-3743 andthe Michigan State Police at 989-773-5951. This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic  Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic MindTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube-  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeSuzanna Ryan- DNA ExpertCloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide DetectiveThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 11 Janette Roberson In January, 1983, 27 year old mother and wife Janette Roberson was dealing with a lot. She had recently moved to Reed City, Michigan looking towards a brighter future, but as the year began, she found herself facing issues beyone her control. Janette had recently found out that her husband was having an affair, and the couple were in the midst of a separation. To make matters worse, Janette had been receiving troubling phone calls from an unknown caller at her home. But Janette focused on rasing her kids, and on her job at the local Gambles store in Reed City. Janette's work in the pet department located in the basement of Gambles ensured her a certain amount of peace, but it's location being both quiet and secluded, would provide cover for a dangerous killer. On January, 19, 1983, Janette worked her shift as she normally did, and somehow despite a store full of employees and customers above her, someone made their way into the basement and brutally stabbed Janette to death. The attack on her was brutal, and sexual in nature. What was perhaps most shocking was that the killer had spent a good amount of time with Janette in the basement before slipping away unnoticed. Police descended on the gruesome and bloody scene, and what they found was something that they had not seen before in Reed City, a town of only 2,000 people. Police scrambled to find both potential witnesses and suspects. They looked at several people including Janette's husband Alvin, but he was eventually cleared. Sketches were created and circulated of a young man who was a possible person of interest in the case, and police hoped they would ID him. They never did, and the case went cold. Almost 40 years later, the murder of Janette Roberson remains unsolved. Can clues and evidence collected back in 1983 perhaps lead investigators to the identity of Janette's killer, or is Janette case destined to go unsolved? In this episode, the Citizen Detective team discusses the possibilities, share their theories. They are joined by Janette's sister, Lana Jarvie who walks the team through what she's been able to learn about her sister's senseless, and violent murder. Tips and information about Janette’s case may be submitted to both the Janette Roberson and Who Murdered Janette Roberson Facebook pages at: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/janette.roberson.1" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/janette.roberson.1</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/177173285814467" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/177173285814467</a> All tips received on Facebook will be forwarded to police. You may also call Reed City Police Chief Chuck Davis at 231-832-3743 and the Michigan State Police at 989-773-5951. This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code <a href="http://Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic</a> Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic Mind To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

Episode 10 The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury RunThe Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run, AKA the Cleveland Torso Killer, was responsible for a series of brutally horrific and shocking murders in Cleveland, Ohio in the 1930's. While no one is sure of his victim counts, some opinions range between 12 and 20. The killer preyed on the down and out citizens of the impoverished Kingsbury Run neighborhood. The still unidentified killer would leave gruesome clues to be found by area residents which included body parts of those that he dismembered and decapitated; some of them while they were still alive. Although the odds are against this case being solved, the team tries to get in the killer's head to determine who he might have been, and applies modern investigative thinking, and discusses how modern day tools and Science might one day help solve this case.This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic  Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic MindTo find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPodFacebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcastFacebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=enYoutube-  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2wTo support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/The Citizen Detective team includes:Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee MellorWriting and Research- Alex RalphTechnical Producer- Andrew GrayProduction Assistant- Ashley MonroeThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement

Episode 10 The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run, AKA the Cleveland Torso Killer, was responsible for a series of brutally horrific and shocking murders in Cleveland, Ohio in the 1930's. While no one is sure of his victim counts, some opinions range between 12 and 20. The killer preyed on the down and out citizens of the impoverished Kingsbury Run neighborhood. The still unidentified killer would leave gruesome clues to be found by area residents which included body parts of those that he dismembered and decapitated; some of them while they were still alive. Although the odds are against this case being solved, the team tries to get in the killer's head to determine who he might have been, and applies modern investigative thinking, and discusses how modern day tools and Science might one day help solve this case. This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind #14DaysOfMagic Use promo code <a href="http://Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Magicmind.co/14daysofmagic</a> Use our promo code Detective14 to save 20% off your first order of Magic Mind To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod</a> Facebook Home Page- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast</a> Facebook Discussion group- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915</a> Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en</a> Youtube- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w</a> To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit <a href="http://Patreon.com/CitizenDetective" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon.com/CitizenDetective</a> Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: <a href="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/</a> The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.spreaker.com/show/4610024/advertisement</a>

The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run

... to discover Lordan having another podcast, I enjoy his content, but upon realizing one of the three hosts is a narcissist I already could not stand (had to unsub from on YT) we shall see...

I was excited ...

Excellent presentation with good grammar!

A clear 10

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