This is the story of our first critic. Once upon a time in a coffee shop in Chicago when Christie was a brand new English Literature professor a stranger asked her a question about reading and writing. He was pointed. He had opinions. He was her first critic.  We've come a long way since then. And gathered many, many more reviews. And we've gotten better at receiving them. And learned a lot about leaving them.  This is the story of what we have learned -- about reading as much as about writing. And how it's changed the way we think about reviews.  This is a story for anyone who loves books as much as we do. Because to love books is to love authors and learn how to respond to their art with the reviews that we leave. And yes, we read aloud one of our favorite reviews -- not because of how it agrees with us. But because of how it kind of doesn't. And what a great lesson it taught us as readers and reviewers ourselves.  Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Click here to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes! 

This is the story of our first critic. Once upon a time in a coffee shop in Chicago when Christie was a brand new English Literature professor a stranger asked her a question about reading and writing. He was pointed. He had opinions. He was her first critic.  We've come a long way since then. And gathered many, many more reviews. And we've gotten better at receiving them. And learned a lot about leaving them.  This is the story of what we have learned -- about reading as much as about writing. And how it's changed the way we think about reviews.  This is a story for anyone who loves books as much as we do. Because to love books is to love authors and learn how to respond to their art with the reviews that we leave. And yes, we read aloud one of our favorite reviews -- not because of how it agrees with us. But because of how it kind of doesn't. And what a great lesson it taught us as readers and reviewers ourselves.  Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! <a href="https://us.stellareats.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes!

243. How to Leave a Critical Review

This is the story of the labels people pin to us - to our bodies or our lives, or our families or our homes - and that we sometimes start to believe must be true. This is the story of starting to say that we will not be accepting those labels today, thank you very much.  Today Christie and Lisa-Jo each share stories about labels they had unknowingly accepted about themselves since they were teenagers. As if they were a shameful secret. As if they should apologize for who they are. Do you know what we mean? Do you have a memory, a throwaway sentence, an insult, a note, a casual, cutting observation that you tucked into your soul and allowed to grow up alongside you as if it was always part of you? So that now that lie is grafted into your DNA and you can’t tell the difference between the label and the reality of you? Today is the day to toss that label in the trash, friends! Join us as we speak truth and laughter and reality to the labels that have embarrassed us in the past. That we choose instead to name our lives and our homes and ourselves with the words spoken on the sixth day, “very good” (Genesis 1:31). Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Click here to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes! 

This is the story of the labels people pin to us - to our bodies or our lives, or our families or our homes - and that we sometimes start to believe must be true. This is the story of starting to say that we will not be accepting those labels today, thank you very much.  Today Christie and Lisa-Jo each share stories about labels they had unknowingly accepted about themselves since they were teenagers. As if they were a shameful secret. As if they should apologize for who they are. Do you know what we mean? Do you have a memory, a throwaway sentence, an insult, a note, a casual, cutting observation that you tucked into your soul and allowed to grow up alongside you as if it was always part of you? So that now that lie is grafted into your DNA and you can’t tell the difference between the label and the reality of you? Today is the day to toss that label in the trash, friends! Join us as we speak truth and laughter and reality to the labels that have embarrassed us in the past. That we choose instead to name our lives and our homes and ourselves with the words spoken on the sixth day, “very good” (Genesis 1:31). Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! <a href="https://us.stellareats.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes!

242. You Called Me WHAT Now?!

This is the story of the secret shame we all carry about our houses. And the one thing that can free you from it. This is a story about Christie's house Maplehurst being adrift in a sea of mud and construction and the pungent smell of mushroom farms nearby. And what Lisa-Jo's daughter said to change how Christie sees/smells her house. There is nothing like the power of seeing your home and your life through someone else's eyes. For better or for worse. This week Christie admits her own secret house shame. Lisa-Jo admits all her judgy thoughts about Marie Kondo and they are both surprised by what they learn from this diminutive Japanese woman who is taking us all by storm in her new Netflix show. Do you have a secret shame about your home? Then this episode is especially for you! Listener invitation: We LOVE hearing from listeners. Take a screenshot of today's podcast and share it to Instagram. Then share a photo of a special spot in your home that has been kind to you. Be sure and tag Lisa-Jo @lisajobaker and Christie @christiepurifoy  so they see it! Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Click here to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes! 

This is the story of the secret shame we all carry about our houses. And the one thing that can free you from it. This is a story about Christie's house Maplehurst being adrift in a sea of mud and construction and the pungent smell of mushroom farms nearby. And what Lisa-Jo's daughter said to change how Christie sees/smells her house. There is nothing like the power of seeing your home and your life through someone else's eyes. For better or for worse. This week Christie admits her own secret house shame. Lisa-Jo admits all her judgy thoughts about Marie Kondo and they are both surprised by what they learn from this diminutive Japanese woman who is taking us all by storm in her new Netflix show. Do you have a secret shame about your home? Then this episode is especially for you! Listener invitation: We LOVE hearing from listeners. Take a screenshot of today's podcast and share it to Instagram. Then share a photo of a special spot in your home that has been kind to you. Be sure and tag Lisa-Jo <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a>  so they see it! Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! <a href="https://us.stellareats.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes!

241. We Were Wrong About Marie Kondo

This is the story of a Jasmine-scented South African summer night. This is a story about disappointment in God, and this is a conversation about the dreams that do NOT come true. Christie and Lisa-Jo recorded this episode the week of Christie's twenty-second wedding anniversary. They marveled over the long years of their friendship, and all the dreams-come-true they have witnessed in each other's lives. But what about those dreams that don't come true? Can we trust a God who sometimes says NO? Is that God still good? Lisa-Jo tells the story of her most bitter disappointment and the surprising encounter she had one warm, South African night. Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Click here to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes! 

This is the story of a Jasmine-scented South African summer night. This is a story about disappointment in God, and this is a conversation about the dreams that do NOT come true. Christie and Lisa-Jo recorded this episode the week of Christie's twenty-second wedding anniversary. They marveled over the long years of their friendship, and all the dreams-come-true they have witnessed in each other's lives. But what about those dreams that don't come true? Can we trust a God who sometimes says NO? Is that God still good? Lisa-Jo tells the story of her most bitter disappointment and the surprising encounter she had one warm, South African night. Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to treat yourself to the best shapewear on the market and save 20% Off on HoneyLove. <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! <a href="https://us.stellareats.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Stellar Eats and get 20% off your next order on healthy and tasty baking mixes!

240. When the Answer To Your Prayer Is NO

We know friendship isn't always easy. Today we are identifying an issue we all face but as always, there's no prescription. Picking friendships back up after a hiatus isn't always easy.  Not all of us live around family and we need friends to fill the gaps. Even some of us have family close by and guess what? We still need friends. You'll leave today feeling seen and full of grace for yourself to move forward with the friends you want to catch up with today! In Today's Conversation:  Anyone been in a friendship desert?  Are friendships like shoes?  How do Lisa-Jo and Christie help us skip the guilt-free, overcomplicated crap of friendships? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

We know friendship isn't always easy. Today we are identifying an issue we all face but as always, there's no prescription. Picking friendships back up after a hiatus isn't always easy.  Not all of us live around family and we need friends to fill the gaps. Even some of us have family close by and guess what? We still need friends. You'll leave today feeling seen and full of grace for yourself to move forward with the friends you want to catch up with today! In Today's Conversation:  Anyone been in a friendship desert?  Are friendships like shoes?  How do Lisa-Jo and Christie help us skip the guilt-free, overcomplicated crap of friendships? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

239. True Confessions of a Friendship Failure

What do you need today? Today we chat about reclaiming space in our souls. There's rest that can come from order in our homes or offices but also rest that can come from order in your soul. Lisa-Jo's husband gave her a simple response that helped her soul last week and we know it'll help your soul too! If you feel like you're going to work or your everyday hustle and going to die, we have an idea that will help. Remember, we can't get out of a hard thing in a week, if we've been in it for a year or three. Lisa-Jo and Christie give us the permission we all need today. Exercise wisdom in taking time for your body and soul and it gives a buffer to do something different. How did Christie have to be ruthless in letting go of books? Need permission to escape from Lisa-Jo? Can you believe Lisa-Jo waited to read that book for so long? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

What do you need today? Today we chat about reclaiming space in our souls. There's rest that can come from order in our homes or offices but also rest that can come from order in your soul. Lisa-Jo's husband gave her a simple response that helped her soul last week and we know it'll help your soul too! If you feel like you're going to work or your everyday hustle and going to die, we have an idea that will help. Remember, we can't get out of a hard thing in a week, if we've been in it for a year or three. Lisa-Jo and Christie give us the permission we all need today. Exercise wisdom in taking time for your body and soul and it gives a buffer to do something different. How did Christie have to be ruthless in letting go of books? Need permission to escape from Lisa-Jo? Can you believe Lisa-Jo waited to read that book for so long? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

238. Making Space

Motivation matters and Christie and Lisa-Jo are giving you a shot of it today. Quick and painless! Lisa-Jo and Christie are keeping us company as we struggle with the clutter that has ensued through this year or two or three. Don't worry because we have guilt-free solutions. We're given revolutionizing yet simple tips today to gain peace in our space. It's just what we all need at this moment right now. Clutter in the mind can equal clutter in the closets. If your space has hit a crisis point, this episode is for you. Lisa-Jo has an epiphany on this podcast and we think you'll appreciate it too! Did Christie clean up the Christmas wrapping paper yet? Need quick tips to simplify your space? Can you believe Lisa-Jo is calling Christie's tips radical? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

Motivation matters and Christie and Lisa-Jo are giving you a shot of it today. Quick and painless! Lisa-Jo and Christie are keeping us company as we struggle with the clutter that has ensued through this year or two or three. Don't worry because we have guilt-free solutions. We're given revolutionizing yet simple tips today to gain peace in our space. It's just what we all need at this moment right now. Clutter in the mind can equal clutter in the closets. If your space has hit a crisis point, this episode is for you. Lisa-Jo has an epiphany on this podcast and we think you'll appreciate it too! Did Christie clean up the Christmas wrapping paper yet? Need quick tips to simplify your space? Can you believe Lisa-Jo is calling Christie's tips radical? Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

237. Confessions of our Dirty Closets

Lisa-Jo and Christie give us an invitation to declutter our souls. Whether you're finishing something or in the middle or very beginning, you need the grace and perspective of this episode!  When we finish a hard thing, even when we finish it well, it doesn't always feel how we want it to feel.  Sometimes when we make it across a minefield, we might not feel delighted but just exhausted. Finishing is a process too. There's not always fireworks at the end.  What does it mean to remember and not be paralyzed while looking back?  Do you have an image like Christie to help you?  How does God's grace parallel with the phrase, "go back and fetch it?"  Soul Rest Series:  1. Soul Rest: Checking In 2. Soul Rest (Round 2) 3. Soul Rest (Round 3) How to Inhabit Time: Understanding the Past, Facing the Future, Living Faithfully Now, by James K. A. Smith Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

Lisa-Jo and Christie give us an invitation to declutter our souls. Whether you're finishing something or in the middle or very beginning, you need the grace and perspective of this episode!  When we finish a hard thing, even when we finish it well, it doesn't always feel how we want it to feel.  Sometimes when we make it across a minefield, we might not feel delighted but just exhausted. Finishing is a process too. There's not always fireworks at the end.  What does it mean to remember and not be paralyzed while looking back?  Do you have an image like Christie to help you?  How does God's grace parallel with the phrase, "go back and fetch it?"  Soul Rest Series:  <a href="https://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/233/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1. Soul Rest: Checking In</a> <a href="https://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/234/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2. Soul Rest (Round 2)</a> <a href="https://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/235/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">3. Soul Rest (Round 3)</a> <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/87444/9781587435232" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How to Inhabit Time: Understanding the Past, Facing the Future, Living Faithfully Now</a>, by James K. A. Smith Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://www.honeylove.com/ordinary" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Honey Love for 20% off the best shapewear on the market! <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary60 to get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your order.  <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $10 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://thrivemarket.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join Thrive Market today and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!

236. When Finishing is Complicated

If you're feeling forgotten or unseen, this episode will encourage you. Christie fascinates us with her travels and all the unique details we can only learn from her perspective.  How did the Good Shepherd connect the dots for Christie and her husband in their time in England? Christie encourages our souls as she finds emblems of connection with broken pieces. We may just have little pieces right now but one day we'll see in full.  "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."- Hebrews 11:1 In today's conversation:  Did you know about mudlarking?  How did Christie find bits of the past when she was in England? Does God really care about the details?  Sudden Journeys  Barnwell Mudlark Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $15 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to visit Olive &amp; June for 20% off your first Mani System. Salon-perfect nails from home is now a dream come true with Olive &amp; June! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your entire order today! 

If you're feeling forgotten or unseen, this episode will encourage you. Christie fascinates us with her travels and all the unique details we can only learn from her perspective.  How did the Good Shepherd connect the dots for Christie and her husband in their time in England? Christie encourages our souls as she finds emblems of connection with broken pieces. We may just have little pieces right now but one day we'll see in full.  "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."- Hebrews 11:1 In today's conversation:  Did you know about mudlarking?  How did Christie find bits of the past when she was in England? Does God really care about the details?  <a href="https://www.mysuddenjourneys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sudden Journeys</a> <a href="https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/BarnwellMudlark?ref=search_shop_redirect&amp;fbclid=PAAaaxWLKb4x1eDsRT16gDXFrkJDkenn4Eak9BXgCSU6OuZDl2Dk6DG4YfBPw&amp;load_webview=1&amp;bid=AvCOCI69iGwGvy5y2loqF_U0dgtR" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Barnwell Mudlark</a> Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $15 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://www.oliveandjune.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Olive &amp; June for 20% off your first Mani System. Salon-perfect nails from home is now a dream come true with Olive &amp; June! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your entire order today!

235. Soul Rest. Feeling Seen. (Round 3)

Who else is so tired? How can we find rest?  Not everything in the past three years has been lost. We have to find out where it's hiding. Sometimes God invites us outside our rhythm and when we get intentional, we see God showing up. So much has happened for all of us in the past three years.  Some of that is the disconnection of the body and our souls have been scattered. Christie shares about needing to be gathered up and made whole after years of breaking. You too?  Lisa-Jo says, "There's company in just being empty together." In today's conversation:  When Lisa-Jo saw Christie depleted and what did she do?  How do we find our souls again?  Learn from Christie's experience about how to fix airplane drama. What did Christie share that can hardly be believed?  Sudden Journeys is who helped plan Christie's European travel experience. Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram @lisajobaker and Christie at @christiepurifoy and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! Click here to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $15 off with the code ORDINARY! Click here to visit Olive &amp; June for 20% off your first Mani System. Salon-perfect nails from home is now a dream come true with Olive &amp; June! Click here to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your entire order today! 

Who else is so tired? How can we find rest?  Not everything in the past three years has been lost. We have to find out where it's hiding. Sometimes God invites us outside our rhythm and when we get intentional, we see God showing up. So much has happened for all of us in the past three years.  Some of that is the disconnection of the body and our souls have been scattered. Christie shares about needing to be gathered up and made whole after years of breaking. You too?  Lisa-Jo says, "There's company in just being empty together." In today's conversation:  When Lisa-Jo saw Christie depleted and what did she do?  How do we find our souls again?  Learn from Christie's experience about how to fix airplane drama. What did Christie share that can hardly be believed?  <a href="https://www.mysuddenjourneys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sudden Journeys</a> is who helped plan Christie's European travel experience. Podcast links: Follow Lisa-Jo on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and Christie at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> and please leave a review about what you think about today's podcast! <a href="https://www.blackbarnonline.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. _ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. <a href="https://greenchef.com/ordinary60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Green Chef and get 60% off plus free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! <a href="https://nutrafol.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Nutrafol to grow thicker, heathier hair with $15 off with the code ORDINARY! <a href="https://www.oliveandjune.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Olive &amp; June for 20% off your first Mani System. Salon-perfect nails from home is now a dream come true with Olive &amp; June! <a href="https://www.fast-growing-trees.com/ordinary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to visit Fast Growing Trees to 15% off your entire order today!

234. Soul Rest (Round 2)

Welcome to Out of the Ordinary, the show that helps you grow a daily life that matters. In a world that loves bigger, better, fast, and famous, longtime friends and authors, Christie and Lisa-Jo, are here to remind you that the very best stories actually grow out of the soil of ordinary life.

I love listening to this podcast while out jogging or walking. And it’s like I take my two best friends along. I always feel so uplifted and encouraged after listening.

Like being with best friends

Always warm, always rich, always delightful. I’d call these chats better than a warm cookie, and I do like a warm cookie very much.

Chocolate Chip

Out of the Ordinary

This is the story of a neglected garden and a disappearing act. This is the first half of a two-part conversation on why we're beginning this new year by saying "No!" loud and clear. Ordinary life is a gift offered to each one of us, but did you know that ordinary life isn't actually inevitable? That ordinary life--with all of its wonder and beauty--is actually soil to be tended? One of the most important ways we're tending the ground of our lives this year is by saying "No." We invite you to listen, and we invite you to join us this year in growing smaller in order to gain so much.   Listener Resources: Subscribe to our "behind the scenes" emails and you'll be the first to hear all about each new episode and all our podcast news. We love sharing bonus photos and anecdotes in these emails to give you the "more" behind each conversation.    Curious to learn more about Lisa-Jo's own "No"? She's writing the Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- click here to read along.   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them. 

This is the story of a neglected garden and a disappearing act. This is the first half of a two-part conversation on why we're beginning this new year by saying "No!" loud and clear. Ordinary life is a gift offered to each one of us, but did you know that ordinary life isn't actually inevitable? That ordinary life--with all of its wonder and beauty--is actually soil to be tended? One of the most important ways we're tending the ground of our lives this year is by saying "No." We invite you to listen, and we invite you to join us this year in growing smaller in order to gain so much. Listener Resources: <a href="http://eepurl.com/goSXEH" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Subscribe to our "behind the scenes" emails</a> and you'll be the first to hear all about each new episode and all our podcast news. We love sharing bonus photos and anecdotes in these emails to give you the "more" behind each conversation.  Curious to learn more about Lisa-Jo's own "No"? She's writing the Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/detoxdiary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here to read along.</a> Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

58. A New Year's "No" (Part 1 of 2)

This is a story about being fed. Lisa-Jo and Christie describe the lengths they'll go to fuel themselves for these podcast recording sessions. From Coke Zero to hot, milky tea and homemade soup, they've learned that it isn't only athletes who need to be carefully nourished.  And one of the great pleasures of ordinary life is ordinary, daily food. Of course, feeding ourselves and others can also feel like a chore, and that's what this conversation is all about: why we eat what we eat and how to find more joy in the midst of it all. From Lisa-Jo's memory of a first kiss to Christie's never-forgotten chocolate pudding, you won't want to miss these stories.   Listener Resources: The new book Women of Courage: A Forty-Day Devotional is BOGO on Dayspring.com (plus get a free pack of (in)courage greeting cards!) and Lifeway.com  The news story that sparked this whole conversation.  Click here to shop the podcast   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

This is a story about being fed. Lisa-Jo and Christie describe the lengths they'll go to fuel themselves for these podcast recording sessions. From Coke Zero to hot, milky tea and homemade soup, they've learned that it isn't only athletes who need to be carefully nourished.  And one of the great pleasures of ordinary life is ordinary, daily food. Of course, feeding ourselves and others can also feel like a chore, and that's what this conversation is all about: why we eat what we eat and how to find more joy in the midst of it all. From Lisa-Jo's memory of a first kiss to Christie's never-forgotten chocolate pudding, you won't want to miss these stories. Listener Resources: The new book <a href="https://www.dayspring.com/in-courage-women-of-courage-a-forty-day-devotional" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Women of Courage: A Forty-Day Devotional</a> is BOGO on <a href="http://Dayspring.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dayspring.com</a> (plus get a free pack of (in)courage greeting cards!) and <a href="http://Lifeway.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lifeway.com</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/09/18/762046422/the-chess-grandmasters-diet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> The news story</a> that sparked this whole conversation. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=11INKW3RVEO5K" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Click here</a> to shop the podcast Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

51. When You're Tired of Making Dinner. Again.

This is the story of a terrible, no-good, but oh-so-hilarious Christmas card photo. These are stories about the things we will NOT be doing this Christmas season. Does the approach of Christmas feel a little less joyful than you wish it would? Are you already tired? Already feeling inadequate to the demands of the season? Then this episode is for you. We can't tell you exactly what you should or shouldn't do this season. We have no three-step plan for success to offer. But we have our stories. We have our own questions. And we have our faith in the God who is with us no matter how empty or sad or afraid we might feel. We invite you to listen. We invite you to respond. What will you NOT be doing this Christmas in order to receive more this Christmas?   Listener Resources: Lisa-Jo and Christie have something special from the podcast planned for Christmas. Subscribe to our "behind the scenes" emails and you'll be the first to hear all about it.  Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- click here to read along.   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them. 

This is the story of a terrible, no-good, but oh-so-hilarious Christmas card photo. These are stories about the things we will NOT be doing this Christmas season. Does the approach of Christmas feel a little less joyful than you wish it would? Are you already tired? Already feeling inadequate to the demands of the season? Then this episode is for you. We can't tell you exactly what you should or shouldn't do this season. We have no three-step plan for success to offer. But we have our stories. We have our own questions. And we have our faith in the God who is with us no matter how empty or sad or afraid we might feel. We invite you to listen. We invite you to respond. What will you NOT be doing this Christmas in order to receive more this Christmas? Listener Resources: Lisa-Jo and Christie have something special from the podcast planned for Christmas. <a href="http://eepurl.com/goSXEH" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Subscribe to our "behind the scenes" emails</a> and you'll be the first to hear all about it.  Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/detoxdiary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here to read along.</a> Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

54. The One Thing We Won't Do This Christmas

This is a story about Not Enough. Not having enough. Not being enough. Lisa-Jo and Christie speak honestly about their own personal empty jars (that never do run out of oil). They describe the small plates of loaves and fishes served to them by others (that satisfy like nothing else). Because MIRACLES are one of their favorite ordinary things. That's right, with eyes to see, they are learning that extraordinary miracles are woven into the fabric of our daily lives. When we offer our seemingly empty jars, when we serve up our not-enough food, something miraculous happens: our Not Enough is multiplied.  We hope these stories give you new eyes to see the abundant life that is already yours.   Listener Resources: The new book Women of Courage: A Forty-Day Devotional is BOGO on Dayspring.com (plus get a free pack of (in)courage greeting cards!) and Lifeway.com Here's the Instagram post that prompted today's story!  Click here to shop the podcast   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

This is a story about Not Enough. Not having enough. Not being enough. Lisa-Jo and Christie speak honestly about their own personal empty jars (that never do run out of oil). They describe the small plates of loaves and fishes served to them by others (that satisfy like nothing else). Because MIRACLES are one of their favorite ordinary things. That's right, with eyes to see, they are learning that extraordinary miracles are woven into the fabric of our daily lives. When we offer our seemingly empty jars, when we serve up our not-enough food, something miraculous happens: our Not Enough is multiplied.  We hope these stories give you new eyes to see the abundant life that is already yours. Listener Resources: The new book <a href="https://www.dayspring.com/in-courage-women-of-courage-a-forty-day-devotional" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Women of Courage: A Forty-Day Devotional</a> is BOGO on <a href="http://Dayspring.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dayspring.com</a> (plus get a free pack of (in)courage greeting cards!) and <a href="http://Lifeway.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lifeway.com</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B2wShq3h08V/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here's the Instagram post</a> that prompted today's story! <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=11INKW3RVEO5K" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Click here</a> to shop the podcast Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

50. The Great Thing About Not Having Enough

This is a story about painting a dining room nearly charcoal black. And the hundreds of hours it took. This is a story about how it turned a dining room into an everyday extravagance. This week Lisa-Jo and Christie remember the great farmhouse dining room painting saga of their first Thanksgiving in Pennsylvania and how it nearly ruined Christie and her husband's respective backs and arms and attitudes. But how it was more than paint. It was the kind of extravagance we get to give one another on the daily.  Because this is lavish, insanely beautiful grace -- being willing to transform the ordinary into the extraordinary, the boring into the extravagant, if only we have eyes to see, and sometimes paint buckets and brushes. Did Lisa-Jo recognize the transformation? Did her family appreciate the effort taken to create extravagance ahead of their visit? Did Jon and Christie survive the hundreds of hours it took to paint walls and CEILINGS a dark charcoal color? Tune in today to find out as they remember that single room that nearly broke them and all the back-breaking, heart-aching work that went into preparing the way. Listener invitation: Have you left us a review yet? We read every single one and we LOVE hearing from you. Be sure you take a moment to subscribe to the show too! Listener Resources!  Shop all the books mentioned on the Podcast over here. Get glimpses of Christie's charcoal dining room by following her on Instagram here. Check out Lisa-Jo's recent trip to Italy in between her daily chaos over here here. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is a story about painting a dining room nearly charcoal black. And the hundreds of hours it took. This is a story about how it turned a dining room into an everyday extravagance. This week Lisa-Jo and Christie remember the great farmhouse dining room painting saga of their first Thanksgiving in Pennsylvania and how it nearly ruined Christie and her husband's respective backs and arms and attitudes. But how it was more than paint. It was the kind of extravagance we get to give one another on the daily.  Because this is lavish, insanely beautiful grace -- being willing to transform the ordinary into the extraordinary, the boring into the extravagant, if only we have eyes to see, and sometimes paint buckets and brushes. Did Lisa-Jo recognize the transformation? Did her family appreciate the effort taken to create extravagance ahead of their visit? Did Jon and Christie survive the hundreds of hours it took to paint walls and CEILINGS a dark charcoal color? Tune in today to find out as they remember that single room that nearly broke them and all the back-breaking, heart-aching work that went into preparing the way. Listener invitation: Have you left us a review yet? We read every single one and we LOVE hearing from you. Be sure you take a moment to subscribe to the show too! Listener Resources!  Shop all the books mentioned on the Podcast <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=11INKW3RVEO5K" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">over here</a>. Get glimpses of Christie's charcoal dining room by following her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Check out Lisa-Jo's recent trip to Italy in between her daily chaos over here <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a> Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

30. You're Allowed Everyday Extravagances

This is a story inspired by rest. Sounds good, doesn't it? Unfortunately, rest is sometimes easier to talk about than it is to receive. But at the Out of the Ordinary podcast, we believe that rest is not only a necessary part of ordinary life, it's one of the greatest gifts of ordinary life. We are determined to rest by example, and that's what this week's episode is all about! This week on the podcast, Christie and Lisa-Jo are revisiting Christie's favorite podcast episode to-date, and we are doing it in order to rest well. Tune in to learn why we value rest, how we are practicing rest as busy podcasters, and why it's important to look back and remember rather than always rushing on to the next, new thing. Listener invitation: Do you have a favorite episode from the podcast? We'd love to know!  Just share a photo on instagram and tag @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy    Listener Resources! FREE GIFT BUNDLE when you preorder Lisa-Jo's new book! Preorder and claim your gifts here: The Middle Matters BE THE FIRST TO KNOW: Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. Then take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much! 

This is a story inspired by rest. Sounds good, doesn't it? Unfortunately, rest is sometimes easier to talk about than it is to receive. But at the Out of the Ordinary podcast, we believe that rest is not only a necessary part of ordinary life, it's one of the greatest gifts of ordinary life. We are determined to rest by example, and that's what this week's episode is all about! This week on the podcast, Christie and Lisa-Jo are revisiting Christie's favorite podcast episode to-date, and we are doing it in order to rest well. Tune in to learn why we value rest, how we are practicing rest as busy podcasters, and why it's important to look back and remember rather than always rushing on to the next, new thing. Listener invitation: Do you have a favorite episode from the podcast? We'd love to know!  Just share a photo on instagram and tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources! FREE GIFT BUNDLE when you preorder Lisa-Jo's new book! Preorder and claim your gifts here: <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/the-middle-matters-book/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Middle Matters</a> BE THE FIRST TO KNOW: Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Then take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much!

41. This One is for the Weary

This is the story of a special night out. Christie and Lisa-Jo share the story of a recent Friday night spent together that was different from anything they've shared before.  Here's a story for anyone longing to have better friendships and to be a better friend. This is a conversation about the poison of comparison and the antidote that is learning how to be someone's "second in command."  The Bible story Lisa-Jo found so confounding and inspiring? It's 1 Samuel 23:15-18 Invite Lisa-Jo to speak at your event: click here  We Saved You a Seat Bible Study, as described by Lisa-Jo, includes the whole story of Jonathan, Saul, and David.  Check out Lisa-Jo's book Never Unfriended    Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at www.fabfitfun.com use coupon code ORDINARY10 We can't wait for you to read Lisa-Jo's new book, preorder here: The Middle Matters   Listener invitation: Are you someone's special "second in command"? We'd love to hear your friendship story. Tag us on Instagram: @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy Take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much!  Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here.   Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is the story of a special night out. Christie and Lisa-Jo share the story of a recent Friday night spent together that was different from anything they've shared before.  Here's a story for anyone longing to have better friendships and to be a better friend. This is a conversation about the poison of comparison and the antidote that is learning how to be someone's "second in command." <ul> <li>The Bible story Lisa-Jo found so confounding and inspiring? It's <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+23%3A15-18&amp;version=NIV" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1 Samuel 23:15-18</a></li> <li>Invite Lisa-Jo to speak at your event: <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/work-with-me/speaking/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.lifeway.com/en/product-family/we-saved-you-a-seat?cid=RDR-wesavedyouaseat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> We Saved You a Seat Bible Study</a>, as described by Lisa-Jo, includes the whole story of Jonathan, Saul, and David. </li> <li>Check out Lisa-Jo's book <a href="https://amzn.to/2Vtq87k" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Never Unfriended</a></li> </ul> Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at <a href="https://fabfitfun.com/get-the-box/?step=getbox&amp;#plan=fffvip" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.fabfitfun.com</a> use coupon code ORDINARY10 We can't wait for you to read Lisa-Jo's new book, preorder here: <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/the-middle-matters-book/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Middle Matters</a> Listener invitation: Are you someone's special "second in command"? We'd love to hear your friendship story. Tag us on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much!  Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

36. The One Secret to Better Friendships

This is a story about how to listen (instead of  worrying about how life hasn't lived up to the story we write in our heads.) It's the first in our series of Easter Conversations. And yes, we talk about our LEAST FAVORITE Bible Verse. It's for all of us who wonder what it means in the middle of our ordinary, kids-with-stomach-bugs lives to hear the voice of God.  Because, like our kids, we have wondered if that was God or just some bad tacos from the night before. It's also the difference between listening to God vs. listening to outcomes. And how we can run into trouble when we equate outcomes with whether or not we heard clearly from God. Yup, we question ourselves, our hearing and our lives according to our accomplishment lists. Maybe that's not the best checklist.  Here's what we're learning to do instead.  Join us. And if this conversation resonated we'd love if you'd take 2 minutes and leave a review.  Subscriptions to Paper&amp;String are open again. Click here for more information. They open the first week of every month!

This is a story about how to listen (instead of  worrying about how life hasn't lived up to the story we write in our heads.) It's the first in our series of Easter Conversations. And yes, we talk about our LEAST FAVORITE Bible Verse. It's for all of us who wonder what it means in the middle of our ordinary, kids-with-stomach-bugs lives to hear the voice of God.  Because, like our kids, we have wondered if that was God or just some bad tacos from the night before. It's also the difference between listening to God vs. listening to outcomes. And how we can run into trouble when we equate outcomes with whether or not we heard clearly from God. Yup, we question ourselves, our hearing and our lives according to our accomplishment lists. Maybe that's not the best checklist.  Here's what we're learning to do instead.  Join us. And if this conversation resonated we'd love if you'd take 2 minutes and leave a review.  Subscriptions to Paper&amp;String are open again. <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/ps" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here for more information</a>. They open the first week of every month!

66. The Benefits of an Unimportant Life

This is a story about a book Christie loved and Lisa-Jo did not. Actually, here are stories about quite a few books! Because these are the childhood favorites that helped make us the women we are. In this week's conversation, we discover just how much our favorite books reveal about our deepest selves and our relationships. Christie and Lisa-Jo trade memories and titles from The Secret Garden to Lord of the Rings and quite a few you've probably never heard of, let alone read! Listener invitation: Take a shelfie! Yep, that's a selfie of your bookshelf. We'd LOVE to see your favorite books -- tag us in Instagram @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at www.fabfitfun.com use coupon code ORDINARY10 The book More For Mom: Living Your Whole and Holy Life by Kristin Funston is out now! Find out all about it and buy your copy right here. Find it and all the books mentioned on the podcast in our very own store here! Some of the books and authors mentioned in this podcast include: The Secret Garden, The Lord of the Rings, Narnia, The Borrowers, Mara: Daughter of the Nile, The Bronze Bow, Nancy Drew, Swallows and Amazons, The Lonely Doll, The Robe, A Time to Keep, Roald Dahl, Rumer Godden, and Laura Ingalls Wilder. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. You can see what our weekly newsletters are like right here. Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is a story about a book Christie loved and Lisa-Jo did not. Actually, here are stories about quite a few books! Because these are the childhood favorites that helped make us the women we are. In this week's conversation, we discover just how much our favorite books reveal about our deepest selves and our relationships. Christie and Lisa-Jo trade memories and titles from The Secret Garden to Lord of the Rings and quite a few you've probably never heard of, let alone read! Listener invitation: Take a shelfie! Yep, that's a selfie of your bookshelf. We'd LOVE to see your favorite books -- tag us in Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at <a href="https://fabfitfun.com/get-the-box/?step=getbox&amp;#plan=fffvip" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.fabfitfun.com</a> use coupon code ORDINARY10 The book More For Mom: Living Your Whole and Holy Life by Kristin Funston is out now! Find out all about it and buy your copy <a href="https://kristinfunston.com/moreformom/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">right here</a>. Find it and all the books mentioned on the podcast in our very own store <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=33PE15XRNT0PA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>! Some of the books and authors mentioned in this podcast include: The Secret Garden, The Lord of the Rings, Narnia, The Borrowers, Mara: Daughter of the Nile, The Bronze Bow, Nancy Drew, Swallows and Amazons, The Lonely Doll, The Robe, A Time to Keep, Roald Dahl, Rumer Godden, and Laura Ingalls Wilder. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. You can see what our weekly newsletters are like <a href="https://mailchi.mp/8ba9a3603168/our-favorite-books" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">right here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

33.These Are The Books That Made Us

This is a story from Lisa-Jo's favorite book baby, Surprised by Motherhood: Everything I Never Expected About Being a Mom. With Mother's Day just around the corner, Lisa-Jo invites us to celebrate the ordinary wonder of ordinary motherhood. Spoiler alert: there's really nothing ordinary about it. Or, if there is, it's an astonishing, glorious kind of ordinary. Whether or not we have children of our own, motherhood weaves its way in and out of our stories in often unexpected ways. This week, let's be transported by Lisa-Jo's story of how motherhood removed the blinders from her eyes and taught her to see the beauty and richness of ordinary life. Listener invitation: Have you ever felt surprised by motherhood? We'd LOVE to hear from you -- tag us in Instagram @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at www.fabfitfun.com use coupon code ORDINARY10 The book Finding Beautiful: Discovering Authentic Beauty Around the World, by Rebecca Friedlander is now available! Meet Rebecca and learn more of the fascinating story behind the book here. Check out our very own Mother's Day store right here! Pick up a copy of Surprised by Motherhood over here. Get the audio version read by Lisa-Jo over here. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is a story from Lisa-Jo's favorite book baby, Surprised by Motherhood: Everything I Never Expected About Being a Mom. With Mother's Day just around the corner, Lisa-Jo invites us to celebrate the ordinary wonder of ordinary motherhood. Spoiler alert: there's really nothing ordinary about it. Or, if there is, it's an astonishing, glorious kind of ordinary. Whether or not we have children of our own, motherhood weaves its way in and out of our stories in often unexpected ways. This week, let's be transported by Lisa-Jo's story of how motherhood removed the blinders from her eyes and taught her to see the beauty and richness of ordinary life. Listener invitation: Have you ever felt surprised by motherhood? We'd LOVE to hear from you -- tag us in Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at <a href="https://fabfitfun.com/get-the-box/?step=getbox&amp;#plan=fffvip" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">www.fabfitfun.com</a> use coupon code ORDINARY10 The book <a href="https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/finding-beautiful-discovering-authentic-beauty-around-the-world-9780801093838" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Finding Beautiful: Discovering Authentic Beauty Around the World, by Rebecca Friedlander</a> is now available! Meet Rebecca and learn more of the fascinating story behind the book <a href="https://www.rebeccafriedlander.com/finding-beautiful.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Check out our very own Mother's Day store <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=33PE15XRNT0PA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">right here</a>! Pick up a copy of Surprised by Motherhood <a href="https://amzn.to/2UQmXGn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">over here</a>. Get the audio version read by Lisa-Jo<a href="https://amzn.to/2VFj7UX" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> over here</a>. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

32. Surprised by Motherhood

This is the story of a young woman's first Thanksgiving and a young child's Christmas wish. These are stories about hard holidays, but they are only the first step in a three-part journey Christie and Lisa-Jo take together on the podcast this December. Why revisit the hard? Why return in conversation to those darker holiday moments? Because this year's Christmas, and all our Christmases to come, are shaped by Christmas past. And the past has much to teach us. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo on this storytelling journey as they begin to see the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that will grow and grow until it shines in its fullness on two memorable holy nights.   Listener Resources: Click here to get our Bonus Deep Dive Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads drops! Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- click here to read along.   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them. 

This is the story of a young woman's first Thanksgiving and a young child's Christmas wish. These are stories about hard holidays, but they are only the first step in a three-part journey Christie and Lisa-Jo take together on the podcast this December. Why revisit the hard? Why return in conversation to those darker holiday moments? Because this year's Christmas, and all our Christmases to come, are shaped by Christmas past. And the past has much to teach us. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo on this storytelling journey as they begin to see the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that will grow and grow until it shines in its fullness on two memorable holy nights. Listener Resources: <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/bonus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to get our Bonus Deep Dive Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads drops! Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/detoxdiary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here to read along.</a> Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

55. 2 Hard Holidays & A Holy Night (Part 1 of 3)

This is the story of 1 hospital conference room and 1,000 lanterns in the sky. Here comes the final installment in our 3 part journey unpacking our hard Christmas stories on the way to this sacred holy and completely unexpected night.  (You can listen to Part 1 and Part 2 in Episodes 55 and 56). Join Christie and Lisa-Jo as they learn that Christmas isn't some delicate ornament easily shattered by our own disappointed expectations, irritations and temper tantrums. Instead it's as solid as the earth beneath our feet. This is not a fragile time of year. Much to their surprise, they unpack what makes Christmas so rock solid dependable.  This week Lisa-Jo and Christie conclude their storytelling journey as they reveal the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that shines in its fullness on these two memorable holy nights.   Listener Resources: Click here to get our Bonus Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads! Click here for Christie's Book Roots and Sky  Click here to see the passage Lisa-Jo reads from the book of John.  Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- click here to read along.   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.    Click here for our Bonus Episode: Top 10 Christmas Reads! This is a deep dive into our favorite Christmas-themed books in an episode that includes:  Novels, cook books, mysteries, picture books for the kids, faith reads, fiction, soul care, and poetry. We read excerpts from our favorite passages and explain why we love them so much We share the reasons we think these books will be good company in this season. Christie is shocked by one of Lisa-Jo's choices!  Lisa-Jo laughs so hard during one of her readings she snorts. Apologies in advance! Yes we have a few international authors as well. Plus, there's a printable list of all 20 books featured for you to take to the library this season!  Click here to get the Christmas Bonus Episode.

This is the story of 1 hospital conference room and 1,000 lanterns in the sky. Here comes the final installment in our 3 part journey unpacking our hard Christmas stories on the way to this sacred holy and completely unexpected night.  (You can listen to Part 1 and Part 2 in Episodes 55 and 56). Join Christie and Lisa-Jo as they learn that Christmas isn't some delicate ornament easily shattered by our own disappointed expectations, irritations and temper tantrums. Instead it's as solid as the earth beneath our feet. This is not a fragile time of year. Much to their surprise, they unpack what makes Christmas so rock solid dependable.  This week Lisa-Jo and Christie conclude their storytelling journey as they reveal the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that shines in its fullness on these two memorable holy nights. Listener Resources: <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/bonus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to get our Bonus Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads! <a href="https://amzn.to/2rxUa0D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> for Christie's Book Roots and Sky <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&amp;version=MSG" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Click here</a> to see the passage Lisa-Jo reads from the book of John.  Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/detoxdiary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here to read along.</a> Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.  <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/bonus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here for our Bonus Episode: Top 10 Christmas Reads!</a> This is a deep dive into our favorite Christmas-themed books in an episode that includes: <ul> <li>Novels, cook books, mysteries, picture books for the kids, faith reads, fiction, soul care, and poetry.</li> <li>We read excerpts from our favorite passages and explain why we love them so much</li> <li>We share the reasons we think these books will be good company in this season.</li> <li>Christie is shocked by one of Lisa-Jo's choices! </li> <li>Lisa-Jo laughs so hard during one of her readings she snorts. Apologies in advance!</li> <li>Yes we have a few international authors as well.</li> <li>Plus, there's a printable list of all 20 books featured for you to take to the library this season!</li> </ul> <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/bonus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to get the Christmas Bonus Episode.

57. 2 Hard Holidays and A Holy Night (Part 3 of 3)

This is a story about a man who moved into our neighborhood and it changed everything. This week Lisa-Jo and Christie remember the cultures and friendships and travel that have defined their understanding of their favorite neighbor.  Lisa-Jo takes us back to her two years in Kyiv, Ukraine and Christie remembers how her parents lived a legacy of missions from their Texas home. Listener invitation: Where in the world are you listening from? We'd LOVE to hear from you -- tag us in Instagram @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy Listener Resources!  Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at www.fabfitfun.com use coupon code ORDINARY10 Shop all the books mentioned on the Podcast over here. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is a story about a man who moved into our neighborhood and it changed everything. This week Lisa-Jo and Christie remember the cultures and friendships and travel that have defined their understanding of their favorite neighbor.  Lisa-Jo takes us back to her two years in Kyiv, Ukraine and Christie remembers how her parents lived a legacy of missions from their Texas home. Listener invitation: Where in the world are you listening from? We'd LOVE to hear from you -- tag us in Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources!  Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at <a href="https://fabfitfun.com/get-the-box/?step=getbox&amp;#plan=fffvip" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.fabfitfun.com</a> use coupon code ORDINARY10 Shop all the books mentioned on the Podcast <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=11INKW3RVEO5K" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">over here</a>. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

31. Our Favorite Neighbor

This is a story about dark wells of deep water and the surprises that can come out of them. This week we talk about how the places of our pain are sometimes the very places where beauty grows in totally unexpected ways. Places that feel too deep to even talk about can be where we find fresh water and new life. We all carry stories in our bones, and your stories, like ours help, "close the wound of loneliness and may participate in healing the broken world." (Pat Schneider). Thank you for sitting in our stories with us. We are honored to do the same with you as you look into your own dark wells this week.   Listener Resources: Click here for the book we quote from and can't recommend highly enough. Lisa-Jo sends screen shots of her favorite passages to Christie daily! Writing Alone and With Others by Pat Schneider  Click here to see Zoe's "Cat TShirt" Story  Click here to see a few of the podcast's favorite things   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.  Are you getting email updates from us? Click here to join our mailing list to be the first to hear about upcoming events for our podcast community.

This is a story about dark wells of deep water and the surprises that can come out of them. This week we talk about how the places of our pain are sometimes the very places where beauty grows in totally unexpected ways. Places that feel too deep to even talk about can be where we find fresh water and new life. We all carry stories in our bones, and your stories, like ours help, "close the wound of loneliness and may participate in healing the broken world." <a href="https://amzn.to/2pIWOzL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(Pat Schneider).</a> Thank you for sitting in our stories with us. We are honored to do the same with you as you look into your own dark wells this week. Listener Resources: <a href="https://amzn.to/2pIWOzL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here for the book we quote</a> from and can't recommend highly enough. Lisa-Jo sends screen shots of her favorite passages to Christie daily! Writing Alone and With Others by Pat Schneider <a href="https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDA4NTk5NDM4MjAzMDY0?igshid=e0kpqehd66b2&amp;story_media_id=2057560367388153350%20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Click here</a> to see Zoe's "Cat TShirt" Story <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?ref=cm_sw_em_r_inf_pub_influencer-884243d5_dp_BxKqHo6PiXa5W" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Click here </a>to see a few of the podcast's favorite things Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.  Are you getting email updates from us? <a href="http://eepurl.com/goSXEH" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here to join our mailing list</a> to be the first to hear about upcoming events for our podcast community.

52. How to Heal Your Deepest Wounds

This is a story about being allergic to life. This week Christie went in for allergy testing and discovered that she's allergic to her very favorite thing in the world. It's like a parable for these times we're living through. Listen to her share about how she has responded. May we all respond to the headlines, our fears, and our neighbors in the same way. Reading from this episode: Jeremiah 42:1-22

This is a story about being allergic to life. This week Christie went in for allergy testing and discovered that she's allergic to her very favorite thing in the world. It's like a parable for these times we're living through. Listen to her share about how she has responded. May we all respond to the headlines, our fears, and our neighbors in the same way. Reading from this episode: <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+42%3A1-22&amp;version=CSB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jeremiah 42:1-22</a>

68. Fear is the Virus We CAN Treat

This is a story about the middle. We celebrate new beginnings, and we applaud satisfying endings, but too often we forget about the middle. Or, worse, we rush on by determined to get to the "good stuff." But Lisa-Jo has a brand new book coming out in LESS THAN ONE WEEK (!!), and it is a joyous standing ovation for life's many messy middles. This week on the Out of the Ordinary podcast, we are giving our listeners a special gift: a chance to hear a few favorite essays from The Middle Matters in Lisa-Jo's own voice. What kind of middle are you living today? Is there some treasure hidden in the midst of it?  We'd love to hear more!  Just share a photo on instagram and tag @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy    Listener Resources! FREE GIFT BUNDLE when you preorder Lisa-Jo's new book! Preorder and claim your gifts here: The Middle Matters BE THE FIRST TO KNOW: Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here. Then take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much!

This is a story about the middle. We celebrate new beginnings, and we applaud satisfying endings, but too often we forget about the middle. Or, worse, we rush on by determined to get to the "good stuff." But Lisa-Jo has a brand new book coming out in LESS THAN ONE WEEK (!!), and it is a joyous standing ovation for life's many messy middles. This week on the Out of the Ordinary podcast, we are giving our listeners a special gift: a chance to hear a few favorite essays from <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/the-middle-matters-book/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Middle Matters</a> in Lisa-Jo's own voice. What kind of middle are you living today? Is there some treasure hidden in the midst of it?  We'd love to hear more!  Just share a photo on instagram and tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources! FREE GIFT BUNDLE when you preorder Lisa-Jo's new book! Preorder and claim your gifts here: <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/the-middle-matters-book/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Middle Matters</a> BE THE FIRST TO KNOW: Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Then take a moment to scroll down and subscribe to the show so you never miss a conversation. And we LOVE reading all your kind reviews. Thank you so much!

43. Surprise! A Gift For You

This is the story of a bag of broken Christmas gifts and an ironing board. Here comes the second in our 3 part journey unpacking our hard Christmas stories because we know this time of year isn't just about the shiny and the special. It's about a God who comes to meet us in the middle of broken gifts and disappointed expectations. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo as they remember Christmases that some might have wanted to rescue them OUT OF. And instead, learn with them about what it looks like to be rescued INTO your own story. These are stories about hard holidays, but they are only the first step in a three-part journey Christie and Lisa-Jo take together on the podcast this December. Why revisit the hard? Why return in conversation to those darker holiday moments? Because this year's Christmas, and all our Christmases to come, are shaped by Christmas past. And the past has much to teach us. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo on this storytelling journey as they begin to see the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that will grow and grow until it shines in its fullness on two memorable holy nights.   Listener Resources: Click here to get our Bonus Deep Dive Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads drops! Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- click here to read along.   Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. Click here to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them. 

This is the story of a bag of broken Christmas gifts and an ironing board. Here comes the second in our 3 part journey unpacking our hard Christmas stories because we know this time of year isn't just about the shiny and the special. It's about a God who comes to meet us in the middle of broken gifts and disappointed expectations. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo as they remember Christmases that some might have wanted to rescue them OUT OF. And instead, learn with them about what it looks like to be rescued INTO your own story. These are stories about hard holidays, but they are only the first step in a three-part journey Christie and Lisa-Jo take together on the podcast this December. Why revisit the hard? Why return in conversation to those darker holiday moments? Because this year's Christmas, and all our Christmases to come, are shaped by Christmas past. And the past has much to teach us. Join Christie and Lisa-Jo on this storytelling journey as they begin to see the light that glimmers even in some of their darker memories. It is a light that will grow and grow until it shines in its fullness on two memorable holy nights. Listener Resources: <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/bonus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to get our Bonus Deep Dive Episode: Our Top 10 Christmas Reads drops! Curious about Lisa-Jo's Detox Diary of an Instagram Addict -- <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/detoxdiary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">click here to read along.</a> Listener Invitation: Have you subscribed to the podcast and left a review yet? Reviews are one of the most significant ways our listeners participate in this podcast. Your grateful reviews help other listeners find our community. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-the-ordinary/id1435936347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here</a> to leave a review on iTunes (just scroll down past the episodes to find the option to leave a review). Thank you -- we read and appreciate every one of them.

56. 2 Hard Holidays and A Holy Night (Part 2 of 3)

This is the story about trusting God with our kids I've heard Christie tell this story before. So have you. As part of practicing rest this summer, Christie and Lisa-Jo each chose their favorite episode from the past year to re-share. This is the one Lisa-Jo chose. Because it's the story she thinks about more than any of the others they've shared. This is the story of an afternoon in Florida when Christie watched her son have a life threatening allergic reaction and it was the one time she didn't have an epi pen with her. This story is brutal and honest and we know that many listeners have had similar experiences. Some that didn't have the same ending as this one.  This is a painful conversation about trusting God with our kids, and others we love. The people we want most to be safe in the world.  But what if God wants to give them something better, something more, than safety? Christie tells the story of the terrible mistake that almost cost her young son's life, leading to a conversation filled with hard questions and trustworthy promises. If you worry about what next week or next month might bring to those you love most in the world, this episode is for you. Listener invitation: We'd love if you shared this episode on Instagram. Tag us @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy so that others might find courage in this story too. See more of Maplehurst and meet Christie here. See more of Lisa-Jo's daily, ordinary chaos over here. Want to get behind-the-scenes podcast extras in your in box? Sign up here. Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is the story about trusting God with our kids I've heard Christie tell this story before. So have you. As part of practicing rest this summer, Christie and Lisa-Jo each chose their favorite episode from the past year to re-share. This is the one Lisa-Jo chose. Because it's the story she thinks about more than any of the others they've shared. This is the story of an afternoon in Florida when Christie watched her son have a life threatening allergic reaction and it was the one time she didn't have an epi pen with her. This story is brutal and honest and we know that many listeners have had similar experiences. Some that didn't have the same ending as this one.  This is a painful conversation about trusting God with our kids, and others we love. The people we want most to be safe in the world.  But what if God wants to give them something better, something more, than safety? Christie tells the story of the terrible mistake that almost cost her young son's life, leading to a conversation filled with hard questions and trustworthy promises. If you worry about what next week or next month might bring to those you love most in the world, this episode is for you. Listener invitation: We'd love if you shared this episode on Instagram. Tag us @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy so that others might find courage in this story too. See more of Maplehurst and meet Christie <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. See more of Lisa-Jo's daily, ordinary chaos over <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a> Want to get behind-the-scenes podcast extras in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

45. Can we Trust God with our Kids?

This is a story about the burned down parts of our lives. On Ash Wednesday it feels appropriate.  This is the third in a series of vulnerable stories as we work our way toward Lent.   Part 1: Your Childhood Home  Part 2: When Your Limits Frustrate You Christie experiences Lent as a time to cultivate emptiness. Lisa-Jo experiences Lent as a time to stop being shamed by our brokenness.  If you've ever felt like your story has a big crack running through it, you're not alone. Today's conversation will be good company.  Listen to Come Close Now by Christa Wells.  We share these stories to invite you deeper into your own story.  If today's episode resonated with you, please tell a friend about it, yes?

This is a story about the burned down parts of our lives. On Ash Wednesday it feels appropriate.  This is the third in a series of vulnerable stories as we work our way toward Lent.  <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/63-naked-storytelling-your-childhood-home/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Part 1:</a> Your Childhood Home <a href="http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/64-when-your-limits-frustrate-you/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Part 2:</a> When Your Limits Frustrate You Christie experiences Lent as a time to cultivate emptiness. Lisa-Jo experiences Lent as a time to stop being shamed by our brokenness.  If you've ever felt like your story has a big crack running through it, you're not alone. Today's conversation will be good company.  Listen to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIYdZPuqjnY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Come Close Now by Christa Wells.</a> We share these stories to invite you deeper into your own story.  If today's episode resonated with you, please tell a friend about it, yes?

65. Rebuilding Our Broken Homes

This is the story of a new mom crushed by one sentence on her first Mother's Day. And how a decade later she got to re-write those words.  This one's for anyone who felt disappointed by Mother's Day. This one's for anyone who got her expectations crushed on Mother's Day or any day really. This one's for anyone who wonders if anyone notices all the things she does for them. This one's for the tired, or frustrated, or overlooked mom. We see you. Tune in today to hear us share how we've handled our own disappointing Mother's Day moments -- that really aren't just limited to one day a year.  Because these practical ideas we're sharing today have radically changed how we approach these big expectation moments. And we hope they encourage you today and next year again too!   Listener invitation: Are you following us on Instagram? We love getting to meet you there @lisajobaker and @christiepurifoy   Listener Resources!   Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at www.fabfitfun.com use coupon code ORDINARY10 The blog post we read: A Love Letter to All the Tired Mamas Everywhere  The Bible Passage Lisa-Jo quoted: Pursue, Overtake, Recover in 1 Samuel 30:8 It's not too late to treat yourself, moms! Check out our very own collection of favorites for moms right here! Pick up a copy of Surprised by Motherhood over here. Get the audio version read by Lisa-Jo over here. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? Sign up here.   Discover Lisa-Jo's books here. Discover Christie's books here.

This is the story of a new mom crushed by one sentence on her first Mother's Day. And how a decade later she got to re-write those words.  This one's for anyone who felt disappointed by Mother's Day. This one's for anyone who got her expectations crushed on Mother's Day or any day really. This one's for anyone who wonders if anyone notices all the things she does for them. This one's for the tired, or frustrated, or overlooked mom. We see you. Tune in today to hear us share how we've handled our own disappointing Mother's Day moments -- that really aren't just limited to one day a year.  Because these practical ideas we're sharing today have radically changed how we approach these big expectation moments. And we hope they encourage you today and next year again too! Listener invitation: Are you following us on Instagram? We love getting to meet you there <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisajobaker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lisajobaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@christiepurifoy</a> Listener Resources! Get $10 off your first Fab, Fit, Fun box at <a href="https://fabfitfun.com/get-the-box/?step=getbox&amp;#plan=fffvip" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.fabfitfun.com</a> use coupon code ORDINARY10 The blog post we read: <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/2014/01/a-love-letter-to-all-the-tired-mamas-everywhere/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Love Letter to All the Tired Mamas Everywhere</a> The Bible Passage Lisa-Jo quoted: Pursue, Overtake, Recover in <a href="https://biblehub.com/hcsb/1_samuel/30.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1 Samuel 30:8</a> It's not too late to treat yourself, moms! Check out our very own collection of favorites for moms <a href="https://www.amazon.com/shop/influencer-884243d5?listId=33PE15XRNT0PA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">right here</a>! Pick up a copy of Surprised by Motherhood <a href="https://amzn.to/2UQmXGn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">over here</a>. Get the audio version read by Lisa-Jo<a href="https://amzn.to/2VFj7UX" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> over here</a>. Want behind-the-scenes podcast news, photos, &amp; events in your in box? <a href="http://bit.ly/outoftheordinarypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sign up here</a>. Discover Lisa-Jo's books <a href="http://lisajobaker.com/books/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Discover Christie's books <a href="http://www.christiepurifoy.com/books/roots-and-sky-a-journey-home-in-four-seasons/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

34. My Worst Mother's Day

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