In this special edition, Art Coleman (@ArtColemanDC), managing partner and co-founder of EducationCounsel (and a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights), shares the initial chapters of a playbook admissions officers can follow to move forward with confidence (and care) in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision in SFFA v. Harvard and SFFA v. UNC.  We discuss what colleges should (and shouldn't do),  what people are getting wrong in their interpretations of the rulings, and what the future might hold.Art provides helpful advice on thoughtful design around scholarships and financial aid programs as well as broader recruitment initiatives, while calling for colleges to use a lens shaped by "a design associated with the DEI goals ... that drive their mission."Read: EducationCounsel's Preliminary Guidance Regarding the U.S. Supreme Court's Decision in SFFA v. Harvard and SFFA v. UNC. (with ongoing updates)Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.

In this special edition, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/art-coleman-6a62651a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Art Coleman</a> (<a href="https://twitter.com/ArtColemanDC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@ArtColemanDC</a>), managing partner and co-founder of <a href="https://educationcounsel.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EducationCounsel</a> (and a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights), shares the initial chapters of a playbook admissions officers can follow to move forward with confidence (and care) in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision in SFFA v. Harvard and SFFA v. UNC. We discuss what colleges should (and shouldn't do),  what people are getting wrong in their interpretations of the rulings, and what the future might hold. Art provides helpful advice on thoughtful design around scholarships and financial aid programs as well as broader recruitment initiatives, while calling for colleges to use a lens shaped by "a design associated with the DEI goals ... that drive their mission." Read: <a href="https://educationcounsel.com/?publication=educationcounsels-preliminary-guidance-regarding-the-u-s-supreme-courts-decision-in-sffa-v-harvard-and-sffa-v-unc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EducationCounsel's Preliminary Guidance Regarding the U.S. Supreme Court's Decision in SFFA v. Harvard and SFFA v. UNC.</a> (with ongoing updates) Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>. Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>.

A Time for Leadership, Not Retrenchment—Paths forward after SCOTUS decisions in Harvard & UNC cases

Season Finale: Dr. Joffery Gaymon,  Vice President for Enrollment at Auburn University, shares what it's like (and what it takes) to make the jump to one of the biggest roles at one of the most recognizable institutions in the U.S. She shares the essential and timeless tools to keep in your toolbox, whatever your ambitions may be, as well as how to keep yourself focused and grounded as the work gets tougher. (And there may be a reference to teaching spin classes.)Rapid DescentWalkout sons: Special by LizzoBest recent read: Campus Economics: How Economic Thinking Can Help Improve College and University Decisions by Sandy Baum and Michael McPherson, a gift from Sam Waterson at RHB.Eager to read next: "I have to finish that one."Favorite podcast: Unreformed: the Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro ChildrenFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Anything with brunch ... with a mimosa on the sideWhat she uses to take and keep notes: old fashioned pen and legal pad, and EvernoteMemorable bit of advice: there are actually three (1) We are always called to serve. (2) When you're in a position of leadership, be mindful of what you say, because what you say carries authority. (3) Every time you go to a meeting, it's a like a zoo: everybody brings their own monkey. Your job is to not leave with anybody else's monkeys.Bucket list: Write a book.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

Season Finale: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jgaymon/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Joffery Gaymon</a>,  Vice President for Enrollment at <a href="https://auburn.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Auburn University</a>, shares what it's like (and what it takes) to make the jump to one of the biggest roles at one of the most recognizable institutions in the U.S. She shares the essential and timeless tools to keep in your toolbox, whatever your ambitions may be, as well as how to keep yourself focused and grounded as the work gets tougher. (And there may be a reference to teaching spin classes.)Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout sons: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3m7IYU7ySuFMwdm7OCShQN?si=050edfb18f3347c4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Special</a> by Lizzo</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Campus-Economics-Economic-University-Decisions/dp/0691229929" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Campus Economics: How Economic Thinking Can Help Improve College and University Decisions</a> by Sandy Baum and Michael McPherson, a gift from <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-waterson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sam Waterson</a> at <a href="https://www.rhb.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">RHB</a>.</li><li>Eager to read next: "I have to finish that one."</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unreformed-the-story-of-the-alabama-industrial/id1663696375" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Unreformed: the Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children</a></li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Anything with brunch ... with a mimosa on the side</li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: old fashioned pen and legal pad, and Evernote</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: there are actually three (1) We are always called to serve. (2) When you're in a position of leadership, be mindful of what you say, because what you say carries authority. (3) Every time you go to a meeting, it's a like a zoo: everybody brings their own monkey. Your job is to not leave with anybody else's monkeys.</li><li>Bucket list: Write a book.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

Joffery Gaymon

Kent Barnds,  Executive Vice President of ExternalRelations: Advancement | Communication | Enrollment | Planning for Augustana College (Rock Island, Ill.), shares how he started as "an accidental admissions person" and become the person with the longest title in the history of the ALP, and what he has learned along the way by becoming a college parent. Great mysteries will be revealed in this episode, including the origin story of Kent's ubiquitous bow ties, what the "W" in his name stands for, and who can lay claim to being the pizza king of the Quad Cities.Rapid DescentWalkout songs: Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Lorde covering the original Tears for FearsBest recent read: They Said This Would be Fun: Race, Campus Life, and Growing Up by Eternity MartisEager to read next: The Generosity Crisis: The Case for Radical Connection to Solve Humanity's Greatest Challenges by Nathan Chapel, Brian Crimmins, and Michael AshleyFavorite podcast: Marketplace Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: PizzaWhat he uses to take and keep notes: sticky notes and notecards stuffed into an ever-expanding green folderMemorable bit of advice: When his uncle (college admission giant Delwin Gustafson) asked him if he was ready to see the dirty underbelly of his alma mater [as an admissions professional].Bucket list: To take a nice long week's vacation with his life partner, Jenny.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?fetchDeterministicClustersOnly=true&amp;heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAADdwc8B4BqEJpevzhhMWaCCdHWP30B3cS4&amp;keywords=w.%20kent%20barnds&amp;origin=RICH_QUERY_TYPEAHEAD_HISTORY&amp;position=0&amp;searchId=febae681-ceea-4907-aff8-dd668337a779&amp;sid=CXn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kent Barnds</a>,  Executive Vice President of ExternalRelations: Advancement | Communication | Enrollment | Planning for <a href="https://www.augustana.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Augustana College</a> (Rock Island, Ill.), shares how he started as "an accidental admissions person" and become the person with the longest title in the history of the ALP, and what he has learned along the way by becoming a college parent. Great mysteries will be revealed in this episode, including the origin story of Kent's ubiquitous bow ties, what the "W" in his name stands for, and who can lay claim to being the pizza king of the Quad Cities.Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3S1tTwSKIZgf4QGltFyCxM?si=3fa87bc0906046fe" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Everybody Wants to Rule the World</a> by Lorde covering the original Tears for Fears</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/They-Said-This-Would-Fun-ebook/dp/B07X1F3RD3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=M5MW36ZJ1WWQ&amp;keywords=they+said+this+would+be+fun&amp;qid=1686531588&amp;sprefix=they+said+this+would+be+fun%2Caps%2C107&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">They Said This Would be Fun: Race, Campus Life, and Growing Up</a> by Eternity Martis</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Generosity-Crisis-Connection-Humanitys-Challenges-ebook/dp/B0BLX8CL1Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2JI4UHDFGFO1O&amp;keywords=the+generosity+crisis&amp;qid=1686531681&amp;sprefix=the+generosity+crisis%2Caps%2C122&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Generosity Crisis: The Case for Radical Connection to Solve Humanity's Greatest Challenges</a> by Nathan Chapel, Brian Crimmins, and Michael Ashley</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketplace/id201853034" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marketplace</a> </li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Pizza</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: sticky notes and notecards stuffed into an ever-expanding green folder</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: When his uncle (college admission giant Delwin Gustafson) asked him if he was ready to see the dirty underbelly of his alma mater [as an admissions professional].</li><li>Bucket list: To take a nice long week's vacation with his life partner, Jenny.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

W. Kent Barnds

Robert Gould

Robert Gould, Vice President for Strategic Enrollment Management at Augsburg University (Minneapolis), offers a deep dive into an approach to college admission that is turning the process on its head and—in the process—not only fostering a greater sense of belonging for students, but for the admission professionals who work with them.Could it be an antidote to the Great Resignation?NotesAugsburg Applies to YouPower of You program (Augsburg partnership with Minneapolis Community and Technical College and Saint Paul College)John Doerr's Objectives and Key Results (OKRs).Harriet Tubman Effect InstituteNicole Johnson, creator of EDIFY, "a 5 step dismantling systemic oppression program that is designed to shift culture in institutions, schools and artistic organizations."Wise Mind The Power of Forgiveness—MinneapolisRapid DescentWalkout songs: "anything by Bobby Sanchez, like Changing Landscapes ..."Best recent read: Forgive For Good: A Proven Prescription for Health and Happiness by Frederic Luskin, and Measure What Matters: How Google, Bono, and the Gates Foundation Rock the World with OKRs by John Doerr.Eager to read next: Irish Untold HistoryFavorite podcast: Edify Justice Advocates Podcast Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Dark roast decaf coffee and vegetable juiceWhat he uses to take and keep notes: Rhodia Notebook Memorable bit of advice: Life is a balance of holding on and letting go —RumiBucket list: "I would like the entire system of admissions in higher education to be changed."Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-j-gould-bb448517/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Robert Gould</a>, Vice President for Strategic Enrollment Management at <a href="https://www.augsburg.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Augsburg University</a> (Minneapolis), offers a deep dive into an approach to college admission that is turning the process on its head and—in the process—not only fostering a greater sense of belonging for students, but for the admission professionals who work with them. Could it be an antidote to the Great Resignation? Notes<ul><li><a href="https://www.augsburg.edu/firstyear/inquire-and-apply/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Augsburg Applies to You</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sundancefamilyfoundation.org/free-two-year-college-tuition-power-of-you/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Power of You</a> program (Augsburg partnership with Minneapolis Community and Technical College and Saint Paul College)</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Measure-What-Matters-Google-Foundation-ebook/dp/B078FZ9SYB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=FVRDIB4Q0DM2&amp;keywords=measure+what+matters&amp;qid=1685926543&amp;sprefix=measure+what+matter%2Caps%2C118&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John Doerr's Objectives and Key Results</a> (OKRs).</li><li><a href="https://www.harriettubmaneffect.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harriet Tubman Effect Institute</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejavanna/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nicole Johnson</a>, creator of EDIFY, "a 5 step dismantling systemic oppression program that is designed to shift culture in institutions, schools and artistic organizations."</li><li><a href="https://www.mindfulnessmuse.com/dialectical-behavior-therapy/what-is-wise-mind" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wise Mind</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.thepowerofforgivenessmpls.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Power of Forgiveness—Minneapolis</a></li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: "anything by Bobby Sanchez, like <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0tqpQtGXhxet7G8pNwNP2f?si=8a854bca5b994af2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Changing Landscapes</a> ..."</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Forgive-Good-Proven-Prescription-Happiness/dp/006251721X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1WJ1B2YCYLSXH&amp;keywords=forgive+for+good&amp;qid=1685927136&amp;sprefix=forgive+for+good%2Caps%2C111&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Forgive For Good: A Proven Prescription for Health and Happiness </a>by Frederic Luskin, and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0tqpQtGXhxet7G8pNwNP2f?si=8a854bca5b994af2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Measure What Matters: How Google, Bono, and the Gates Foundation Rock the World with OKRs</a> by John Doerr.</li><li>Eager to read next: Irish Untold History</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/edify-justice-advocates/id1574544180" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Edify Justice Advocates Podcast</a> </li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Dark roast decaf coffee and vegetable juice</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: <a href="https://rhodiapads.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rhodia Notebook</a> </li><li>Memorable bit of advice: Life is a balance of holding on and letting go —Rumi</li><li>Bucket list: "I would like the entire system of admissions in higher education to be changed."</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

Robert Gould, "Changing Admissions From Selecting to Belonging"

Allan Mathew

Allan Mathew, Director of Graduate Admissions at Tufts University, discusses the similarities and differences of graduate and undergrad admissions and what he's learned working at three institutions in very different market positions. He also offers compelling insights into the four themes of his doctoral dissertation, which focused on the experiences of chief enrollment officers of color.Rapid DescentWalkout songs: Redbone by Childish GambinoBest recent read: Atomic Habits, by James Clear and Office Optional: How to Build a Connected Culture with Virtual Teams, by Larry EnglishEager to read next: Crying in H Mart: A Memoir, by Michelle ZaunerFavorite podcast: Chasing Scratch | The Rights to Ricky Sanchez: The Sixers PodcastFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Indian food, especially a mean chicken curry.What he uses to take and keep notes: iPad and Apple PencilMemorable bit of advice: "Keep your head down and get your sh*t done."Bucket list: Play golf at Saint Andrews.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/allan-mathew-0231/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allan Mathew</a>, Director of Graduate Admissions at Tufts University, discusses the similarities and differences of graduate and undergrad admissions and what he's learned working at three institutions in very different market positions. He also offers compelling insights into the four themes of his doctoral dissertation, which focused on the experiences of chief enrollment officers of color. Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0WtDGnWL2KrMCk0mI1Gpwz?si=dd900402eb4f434d" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Redbone</a> by Childish Gambino</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break-ebook/dp/B07D23CFGR/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2SJQFE2NKRO5B&amp;keywords=atomic+habits&amp;qid=1684703462&amp;sprefix=atomic%2Caps%2C143&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Atomic Habits</a>, by James Clear and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Office-Optional-Connected-Culture-Virtual/dp/1735056723/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DPQI6CCLJ1JK&amp;keywords=office+optional&amp;qid=1684703389&amp;sprefix=office+optional%2Caps%2C129&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Office Optional: How to Build a Connected Culture with Virtual Teams</a>, by Larry English</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crying-Mart-Memoir-Michelle-Zauner-ebook/dp/B08DMXF7ZZ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Z6NG9MAZVWPC&amp;keywords=crying+in+h+mart&amp;qid=1684703498&amp;sprefix=crying+in+%2Caps%2C113&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Crying in H Mart</a>: A Memoir, by Michelle Zauner</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chasing-scratch-a-golf-podcast/id1281285953" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chasing Scratch</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rights-to-ricky-sanchez-the-sixers-76ers-podcast/id474529211" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Rights to Ricky Sanchez: The Sixers Podcast</a></li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Indian food, especially a mean chicken curry.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: iPad and Apple Pencil</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Keep your head down and get your sh*t done."</li><li>Bucket list: Play golf at Saint Andrews.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

Heather Daniels

Heather Daniels, Director of Admissions at Colorado State University, discusses how she's managed to "come home" to every college she has ever worked for ... and discovers that she and Ken have a surprising braided history.Rapid DescentWalkout songs: Believe by Mumford &amp; SonsBest recent read/eager to read next: Coherence by Rick BaileyFavorite podcast: Up First | Smartless | Wiser Than MeFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Squash casserole (It's better than it sounds).What he uses to take and keep notes: Old school pen and notebookMemorable bit of advice: "Follow your nose."Bucket list: Already checked it off in 2019: working for the Semester at Sea program, spending 4 months with her family and a bunch of students on a boat sailing around the world.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-daniels-5a19838/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heather Daniels</a>, Director of Admissions at <a href="https://twitter.com/ColoradoStateU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Colorado State University</a>, discusses how she's managed to "come home" to every college she has ever worked for ... and discovers that she and Ken have a surprising braided history. Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/4xmv6NGg9arNPmANOa4cjq?si=4b9fbd382e524c0c" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Believe</a> by Mumford &amp; Sons</li><li>Best recent read/eager to read next: <a href="https://www.rhb.com/about/store/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Coherence</a> by Rick Bailey</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/up-first/id1222114325" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Up First</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Smartless</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wiser-than-me-with-julia-louis-dreyfus/id1678559416" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wiser Than Me</a></li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Squash casserole (It's better than it sounds).</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: Old school pen and notebook</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Follow your nose."</li><li>Bucket list: Already checked it off in 2019: working for the <a href="https://www.semesteratsea.org/?adgroup=Branded&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_campaign=Vital%20%7C%20Branded%20%7C%20Search&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_term=semester%20at%20sea&amp;utm_content=650343486128&amp;hsa_ver=3&amp;hsa_cam=19774256065&amp;hsa_tgt=kwd-332490766&amp;hsa_src=g&amp;hsa_acc=4394671232&amp;hsa_kw=semester%20at%20sea&amp;hsa_ad=650343486128&amp;hsa_net=adwords&amp;hsa_grp=152314084728&amp;hsa_mt=e&amp;gad=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwjYKjBhB5EiwAiFdSfjFF8gFrh9peWOwuzLVXOllDIktFNScvcGIiwgb-fdHj-s9CiGonJhoCXpsQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Semester at Sea</a> program, spending 4 months with her family and a bunch of students on a boat sailing around the world.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

Boyd Bradshaw

Boyd Bradshaw, the inaugural Vice President for Enrollment Management at Towson University (MD), discusses Towson's new comprehensive and integrated approach to enrollment—from recruitment to graduation—and what it has been like organizing the institution  around that work. We also learn Boyd's secret and surprising skill that he carries with him to this day. Rapid DescentWalkout songs: Eye of the Tiger by SurvivorBest recent read: A Profession on the Edge by Eric HooverEager to read next: "the next thing to come into my inbox" Favorite podcast: Best Podcast in Baseball (much to the chagrin of Ken, a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, it's about the St. Louis Cardinals)Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Grilling out is his jam, especially potato, onion, peppers and butter in foil.What he uses to take and keep notes: old fashioned notebook and Post-Its.Memorable bit of advice: "Focus on the positive."Bucket list: To be working for a college that gets an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament while he is the VP for Enrollment.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?fetchDeterministicClustersOnly=true&amp;heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAAEP5IMBRXVTbFEnt3K5_DjPJsLBXsMpU2s&amp;keywords=dr.%20boyd%20a.%20bradshaw&amp;origin=RICH_QUERY_SUGGESTION&amp;position=0&amp;searchId=1f28ee69-4b9d-4fdf-ac53-a3fbcb98996b&amp;sid=kmG" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Boyd Bradshaw</a>, the inaugural Vice President for Enrollment Management at <a href="https://twitter.com/TowsonU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Towson University</a> (MD), discusses Towson's new comprehensive and integrated approach to enrollment—from recruitment to graduation—and what it has been like organizing the institution  around that work. We also learn Boyd's secret and surprising skill that he carries with him to this day. Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2HHtWyy5CgaQbC7XSoOb0e?si=627909e9a8c74446" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Eye of the Tiger</a> by Survivor</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-profession-on-the-edge?sra=true&amp;cid=gen_sign_in" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Profession on the Edge</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/erichoov" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Eric Hoover</a></li><li>Eager to read next: "the next thing to come into my inbox" </li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-podcast-in-baseball/id855518046" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Best Podcast in Baseball</a> (much to the chagrin of Ken, a lifelong Milwaukee Brewers fan, it's about the St. Louis Cardinals)</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Grilling out is his jam, especially potato, onion, peppers and butter in foil.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: old fashioned notebook and Post-Its.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Focus on the positive."</li><li>Bucket list: To be working for a college that gets an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament while he is the VP for Enrollment.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>. Many thanks to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

Christopher Gray

In this metaphor-loaded episode, Christopher Gray, Dean of Enrollment at Lasell University, discusses living and learning through a successful launch of a tuition reset, why communities matter to marathoners, and a nifty trick to try in your next meeting.Rapid DescentWalkout songs: Dirt Road Anthem by Jason AldeanBest recent read: Extreme You: Step Up. Stand Out. Kick Ass. Repeat. audiobook by Sarah Robb O'Hagan and Fearless Leadership: High Performance Lessons from the Flight Deck by Carey D. LohrenzEager to read next: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking by Susan Cain Favorite podcast: Hacking Your LeadershipFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Chicken ParmesanWhat he uses to take and keep notes: Post-It Notes.Memorable bit of advice: "Success is when you leave something better than when you found it."Bucket list: Play the Old Course at St. Andrews with his father, who taught him how to golf when he was three. (Close second: finish his doctoral program.)Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.

In this metaphor-loaded episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-gray-9319a522/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christopher Gray</a>, Dean of Enrollment at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/school/lasell-university-/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lasell University,</a> discusses living and learning through a successful launch of a tuition reset, why communities matter to marathoners, and a nifty trick to try in your next meeting. Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2qYsSHsYkihWx043HVJQRV?si=9dc6f14653784d61" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dirt Road Anthem</a> by Jason Aldean</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-You-Sarah-Robb-O-Hagan-audiobook/dp/B01N9TAHPE/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1682870411&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Extreme You: Step Up. Stand Out. Kick Ass. Repeat.</a> audiobook by Sarah Robb O'Hagan and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Leadership-Carey-D-Lohrenz-audio/dp/B01HDZWN68/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1GEY8HQ2BSUXT&amp;keywords=fearless+leadership+lorenz&amp;qid=1682870516&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=fearless+leadership+lorenz%2Caudible%2C106&amp;sr=1-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Fearless Leadership: High Performance Lessons from the Flight Deck</a> by Carey D. Lohrenz</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Susan-Cain-audiobook/dp/B00714PZMQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Y7PZ8NU0FTLW&amp;keywords=quiet+introverts&amp;qid=1682870604&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=quiet+introverts%2Caudible%2C113&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking</a> by Susan Cain </li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hacking-your-leadership-podcast/id1267097148" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hacking Your Leadership</a></li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Chicken Parmesan</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: Post-It Notes.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Success is when you leave something better than when you found it."</li><li>Bucket list: Play the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Course_at_St_Andrews" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Old Course at St. Andrews</a> with his father, who taught him how to golf when he was three. (Close second: finish his doctoral program.)</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>.

Eric Hoover

Eric Hoover, Senior Writer at the Chronicle of Higher Education, joins the ALP to discuss his April 5 Chronicle article, A Profession on the Edge: Why enrollment leaders are wearing down, burning out, and leaving jobs they once loved.  He discusses what led to his writing the piece, what surprised him in his discovery, and why things are different now than they were nine years ago when he wrote a similarly provocative piece in September 2014, The Hottest Seat on Campus.  Theme music arranged by Ryan AnselmentThank you to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the NACAC Podcast Network.

<a href="https://twitter.com/erichoov" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Eric Hoover</a>, Senior Writer at the <a href="https://twitter.com/chronicle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chronicle of Higher Education</a>, joins the ALP to discuss his April 5 Chronicle article, <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-profession-on-the-edge" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Profession on the Edge: Why enrollment leaders are wearing down, burning out, and leaving jobs they once loved</a>.  He discusses what led to his writing the piece, what surprised him in his discovery, and why things are different now than they were nine years ago when he wrote a similarly provocative piece in September 2014, <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-hottest-seat-on-campus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Hottest Seat on Campus</a>.  Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a> Thank you to the National Association for College Admission Counseling for supporting this podcast through the <a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/resources/newsroom/nacac-podcast-network/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NACAC Podcast Network</a>.

"A Profession on the Edge" with Eric Hoover

Season Premiere: Mary Chase, Vice Provost for Enrollment at Creighton University, kicks off the season from her fortress of solitude (which will make sense when you listen), and shares how growing up on a farm, being a college mom, and leaving the first footsteps of the day on a dewy fairway shape her approach to enrollment leadership.Rapid DescentWalkout songs: You Time by Scotty McCreeryBest recent read: Reality-Based Leadership: Ditch the Drama, Restore Sanity to the Workplace, and Turn Excuses into Results, by Cy WakemanEager to read next: Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard, by Chip and Dan HeathFavorite podcast: The Hank Haney PodcastFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: "For everyone's safety, I don't."What she uses to take and keep notes: iPad.Memorable bit of advice: "It's times maybe when I've lost where I've learned the most. So don't be afraid to lose. And learn from those losses." — John KlockentagerBucket list: Retirement.Theme music arranged by Ryan Anselment.

Season Premiere: <a href="https://twitter.com/marychase" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mary Chase</a>, Vice Provost for Enrollment at <a href="https://twitter.com/Creighton" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Creighton University</a>, kicks off the season from her fortress of solitude (which will make sense when you listen), and shares how growing up on a farm, being a college mom, and leaving the first footsteps of the day on a dewy fairway shape her approach to enrollment leadership. Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0pJalGEYsRikSogLkXU6KV?si=a73759b351254458" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">You Time</a> by Scotty McCreery</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Reality-Based-Leadership-Restore-Workplace-Excuses-ebook/dp/B0041D8V1C/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3KARK3P3HL4JH&amp;keywords=cy+wakeman+reality+based+leadership&amp;qid=1681688426&amp;sprefix=cy+wakeman%2Caps%2C169&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Reality-Based Leadership: Ditch the Drama, Restore Sanity to the Workplace, and Turn Excuses into Results,</a> by Cy Wakeman</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard-ebook/dp/B0030DHPGQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XT7075MT4613&amp;keywords=switch+heath&amp;qid=1681688168&amp;sprefix=switch+heath%2Caps%2C189&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard</a>, by Chip and Dan Heath</li><li>Favorite podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hank-haney-podcast/id1479092695" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Hank Haney Podcast</a></li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: "For everyone's safety, I don't."</li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: iPad.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "It's times maybe when I've lost where I've learned the most. So don't be afraid to lose. And learn from those losses." — John Klockentager</li><li>Bucket list: Retirement.</li></ul>Theme music arranged by <a href="https://twitter.com/anselpants28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan Anselment</a>.

Mary Chase

Ken Anselment hosts a series of one-on-one conversations with people who have been climbing the leadership mountain in the world of college admissions. Some are nearing the summit. Some are already there. But how did they get there? And what can other climbers learn from their mindsets, habits, and experiences? © Ken Anselment 2023

Ken is a great/dynamic interviewer and I’ve enjoyed his guest choices so far. The whole podcast is well paced and timed (not too long, not too short). The closing, be well and do well, makes me smile at the end of every episode! Can’t wait for season two!

Inspires me to be well and do well

A ‘must listen’ for aspiring and accomplished admissions professionals

Experiences and ideas from admissions professionals

Ken Anselment hosts a series of one-on-one conversations with people who have been climbing the leadership mountain in the world of college admissions. Some are nearing the summit. Some are already there. But how did they get there? And what can other climbers learn from their mindsets, habits, and experiences? © Ken Anselment 2023

ALP: The Admissions Leadership Podcast

Ken chats with Liz Cheron, Assistant Vice President for Enrollment &amp; Dean of Undergraduate Admissions at Northeastern University, and former chair of NACAC's Admission Practices Committee. Liz shares a ton of great insights, including integrating design thinking into work, mastery of 24-hour trips to the West Coast and back, and why "admissions leadership and motherhood are not mutually exclusive."Also, there is a reference to a duck.Shout-outs &amp; LinksDavid Burge, former NACAC president who tapped Liz on the shoulder to lead the Admissions Practices committee. Ronné Patrick Turner, former AVP for Enrollment at Northeastern"How I Built This with Guy Raz : NPR" podcast Rapid DescentLiz's walkout song: Shake it Off by Taylor SwiftBest thing she's read lately: 168 Hours: You Have More Time Than You Think by Laura VanderkamWhat she's eager to read next: The Power of Moments by Chip and Dan HeathFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: The Barefoot Contessa's Spicy Turkey Meatballs and Raisin Pecan Oatmeal cookiesWhat she uses to take and keep notes: Plum Planner, but still looking for the right pen. Memorable bit of advice: "What are the glass balls and rubber balls in your life? The rubber balls will always bounce back, but you need to keep the glass balls in the air."Bucket list: Running the Boston Marathon.

Ken chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-cheron-20b7941a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Liz Cheron</a>, Assistant Vice President for Enrollment &amp; Dean of Undergraduate Admissions at <a href="https://www.northeastern.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Northeastern University</a>, and former chair of NACAC's Admission Practices Committee. Liz shares a ton of great insights, including integrating design thinking into work, mastery of 24-hour trips to the West Coast and back, and why "admissions leadership and motherhood are not mutually exclusive." Also, there is a reference to a duck. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/david_burge" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">David Burge</a>, former NACAC president who tapped Liz on the shoulder to lead the Admissions Practices committee. </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronne-turner-a6b67845/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ronné Patrick Turner</a>, former AVP for Enrollment at Northeastern</li><li>"<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How I Built This with Guy Raz : NPR</a>" podcast </li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Liz's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Shake it Off</a> by Taylor Swift</li><li>Best thing she's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/168-Hours-Have-More-Think/dp/159184410X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3V3B0I2OADKU5&amp;keywords=168+hours+by+laura+vanderkam&amp;qid=1571885506&amp;sprefix=168+hours%2Caps%2C153&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">168 Hours: You Have More Time Than You Think</a> by Laura Vanderkam</li><li>What she's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1FL6I0EUAOBBK&amp;keywords=the+power+of+moments&amp;qid=1571885538&amp;sprefix=the+power+of+moments%2Caps%2C158&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Power of Moments </a>by Chip and Dan Heath</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: The Barefoot Contessa's <a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/spicy-turkey-meatballs-and-spaghetti-recipe-2119707" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spicy Turkey Meatballs</a> and <a href="https://barefootcontessa.com/recipes/raisin-pecan-oatmeal-cookies-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Raisin Pecan Oatmeal cookies</a></li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: <a href="https://www.plumpaper.com/shop/category/personalized-planners" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Plum Planner</a>, but still looking for the right pen. </li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "What are the glass balls and rubber balls in your life? The rubber balls will always bounce back, but you need to keep the glass balls in the air."</li><li>Bucket list: Running the Boston Marathon.</li></ul>

Liz Cheron

Emmi Harward

Ken chats with Emmi Harward, Executive Director at the Association of College Counselors in Independent Schools (ACCIS). Together they explore alternate universes (including one where Emmi is a Supreme Court justice/former U.S. President) as well as a pro tip for getting the first win of the day before you even get out of bed.Shout-outs &amp; LinksTerry Cowdrey, who hired Emmi into her first admissions gig at Vanderbilt. Marie Bigham... yes THAT Marie Bigham.Briana Barkin, Lawrence University California-based regional admission superstarSuzan Zarwell, director of college counseling at University School of Milwaukee (for a picture she got author Paul Tough to send to Ken).Rapid DescentEmmi's walkout song: This is How We Do It by Montell JordanBest thing she's read lately: Real American by Julie Lythcott-HaimesWhat she's eager to read next: The Privileged Poor by Anthony Jack and The Years That Matter Most by Paul ToughFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Besides dinner reservations, her mother's Mac and cheese... with dreams of making John Legend's Mac and cheese.What she uses to take and keep notes: Whatever paper is near her Pilot G2 fine point pen. (Also many many Post-it Notes.)Memorable bit of advice: From her mother who advised, "Make sure you are running to something and not just from something." Bucket list: Communicating in Spanish, and also spending a lot of time in London.

Ken chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmi-harward-855b557a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Emmi Harward</a>, Executive Director at the Association of College Counselors in Independent Schools (<a href="https://www.accisnet.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ACCIS</a>). Together they explore alternate universes (including one where Emmi is a Supreme Court justice/former U.S. President) as well as a pro tip for getting the first win of the day before you even get out of bed. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-cowdrey-07739478/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Terry Cowdrey</a>, who hired Emmi into her first admissions gig at Vanderbilt. </li><li><a href="http://alp.buzzsprout.com/522202/1694410-marie-bigham" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marie Bigham</a>... yes THAT Marie Bigham.</li><li>Briana Barkin, Lawrence University California-based regional admission superstar</li><li><a href="https://www.usmk12.org/news-detail?pk=1262005&amp;fromId=178238" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Suzan Zarwell</a>, director of college counseling at University School of Milwaukee (<a href="https://twitter.com/KenAnselment/status/1184300463115640832" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">for a picture she got author Paul Tough to send to Ken</a>).</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Emmi's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hiUuL5uTKc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This is How We Do It</a> by Montell Jordan</li><li>Best thing she's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Real-American-JULIE-LYTHCOTT-HAIMS/dp/1250296730/ref=sr_1_3?crid=FB3ANVCMI5OS&amp;keywords=real+american+a+memoir%2C+by+julie+lythcott-haims&amp;qid=1572408713&amp;sprefix=real+American%2Caps%2C161&amp;sr=8-3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Real American</a> by Julie Lythcott-Haimes</li><li>What she's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Poor-Colleges-Disadvantaged-Students/dp/0674976894/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33FQ4RDLE82PO&amp;keywords=privileged+poor&amp;qid=1572408790&amp;sprefix=privi%2Caps%2C172&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Privileged Poor </a>by Anthony Jack and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Years-That-Matter-Most-College/dp/0544944488/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2BBZD3IFJHNSK&amp;keywords=the+years+that+matter+most+paul+tough&amp;qid=1572408814&amp;sprefix=the+years+that+%2Caps%2C168&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Years That Matter Most</a> by Paul Tough</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Besides dinner reservations, her mother's Mac and cheese... with dreams of making <a href="https://www.marthastewart.com/348566/john-legends-macaroni-and-cheese" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John Legend's Mac and cheese</a>.</li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: Whatever paper is near her Pilot G2 fine point pen. (Also many many Post-it Notes.)</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: From her mother who advised, "Make sure you are running to something and not just from something." </li><li>Bucket list: Communicating in Spanish, and also spending a lot of time in London.</li></ul>

Rick Clark

Ken chats with Rick Clark (Twitter, LinkedIn), Director of Undergraduate Admission at Georgia Tech and the voice behind the Georgia Tech Admission Blog. Learn about the power of a midnight run, what an English Premiere League soccer player has to do with a rising admission staffer, and where he and his team get their best ideas for staff engagement and renewal.Links and listsThe Truth About College Admission by Rick Clark and Brennan Barnard (published by Johns Hopkins University Press, 2019)Rick also mentioned a video they were working on that plays on the Delta pre-flight safety video. He was kind enough to share it with me so I can share it with you. (Spoiler: it’s genius.)Rapid DescentRick's walkout song: We Ready by Archie EversoleBest thing he's read lately: A Million Miles in a Thousand Years: How I Learned to Live a Better Story by Donald MillerWhat he's eager to read next: The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self Discovery by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne StabileWhat he uses to take and keep notes: voice records into his phone, also "a ton of flip paper"Memorable bit of advice: We don’t have to do this; we get to do this… The interruptions are your job—when the problems come, we should be excited about tackling them. They’re not a disruption.Bucket list: Hiking Mt. Kilimanjaro—he was on his way there to do it, but contracted malaria in Botswana

Ken chats with Rick Clark (<a href="https://twitter.com/Clark2College" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-clark-a797b1/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>), Director of Undergraduate Admission at <a href="https://www.gatech.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Georgia Tech</a> and the voice behind the <a href="http://pwp.gatech.edu/admission-blog/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Georgia Tech Admission Blog</a>. Learn about the power of a midnight run, what an English Premiere League soccer player has to do with a rising admission staffer, and where he and his team get their best ideas for staff engagement and renewal. Links and lists<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Truth-about-College-Admission-Together/dp/142143637X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3VTW4SWOKXLJN&amp;keywords=the+truth+about+college+admission&amp;qid=1567566582&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=the+truth+about+college+%2Caps%2C155&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Truth About College Admission</a> by Rick Clark and Brennan Barnard (published by Johns Hopkins University Press, 2019)</li><li>Rick also mentioned a video they were working on that plays on the Delta pre-flight safety video. He was kind enough to <a href="https://youtu.be/a0DpGN8HurA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">share it with me so I can share it with you</a>. (Spoiler: it’s genius.)</li></ul> Rapid Descent<ul><li>Rick's walkout song: <a href="https://youtu.be/ElFDlShmOng" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">We Ready</a> by Archie Eversole</li><li>Best thing he's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Million-Miles-Thousand-Years-Learned/dp/1400202981" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Million Miles in a Thousand Years: How I Learned to Live a Better Story</a> by Donald Miller</li><li>What he's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Road-Back-You-Enneagram-Self-Discovery/dp/0830846190/ref=sr_1_1?crid=L10F9585F359&amp;keywords=the+road+back+to+you&amp;qid=1567567263&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+road+back+to+you%2Cstripbooks%2C158&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self Discovery</a> by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: voice records into his phone, also "a ton of flip paper"</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: We don’t have to do this; we get to do this… The interruptions are your job—when the problems come, we should be excited about tackling them. They’re not a disruption.</li><li>Bucket list: Hiking Mt. Kilimanjaro—he was on his way there to do it, but contracted malaria in Botswana</li></ul>

Marie Bigham

Ken chats with Marie Bigham, founder and co-leader at ACCEPT: Admissions Community Cultivating Equity &amp; Peace Today, and one of the masterminds behind Hack the Gates, whose goal is to "Radically Reimagine Admissions." Learn about the power of learning, listening, enjoying the ride—and also how Pearl Jam, Prince, Self-Care Sundays, and carrying a file folder confidently can make all the difference.Shout-outsNanette Tarbouni—former director of admissions and Marie's boss at Washington University of St. Louis, now a college counselor at John Burroughs High School.Marjorie Jacobs—former college counselor at Scarsdale HS in New York who invited Marie to be on a panel early in her career. Now a college counselor at SAR.Jim McLeod—was Marie's champion at Wash U when he was Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences. (He passed away in 2011.)Brandi Smith and Steve Frappier, co-leaders of ACCEPT.@ACCEPTGroup, @HackTheGatesLinks and listsACCEPT was featured in a Chronicle of Higher Education article by Eric Hoover: The Admissions Activists are Here to Make You Uncomfortable. (Aug. 11, 2019).Marie referred to Amy Poehler's "Smart Girls Ask Amy" series on YouTube, specifically this episode about courage in the face of a risk.She's loving the NYT 1619 ProjectRapid DescentMarie's walkout song: Rollout (this one's the PG version) by LudacrisBest thing she's read lately: How Does It Feel, a 2016 New Yorker article by Patti SmithWhat she's eager to read next: Sissy: A Coming-of-Gender Story by Jacob TobiaWhat she uses to take and keep notes: Lechturm 1917 A5 Hardcover notebook with dot grid (find it here) with notes written in black ink with a Pilot G2 Ultrafine .38mm penMemorable bit of advice: "Walk with confidence and carry a file folder... people will think you know what you're doing."Bucket list: Alaska. It's the only state she hasn't visited.

Ken chats with Marie Bigham, founder and co-leader at <a href="https://www.acceptgroup.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ACCEPT: Admissions Community Cultivating Equity &amp; Peace Today</a>, and one of the masterminds behind <a href="https://hackthegates.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hack the Gates</a>, whose goal is to "Radically Reimagine Admissions." Learn about the power of learning, listening, enjoying the ride—and also how Pearl Jam, Prince, Self-Care Sundays, and carrying a file folder confidently can make all the difference. Shout-outs<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nanette-tarbouni-917859b/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nanette Tarbouni</a>—former director of admissions and Marie's boss at Washington University of St. Louis, now a college counselor at John Burroughs High School.</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marjorie-jacobs-3123504/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marjorie Jacobs</a>—former college counselor at Scarsdale HS in New York who invited Marie to be on a panel early in her career. Now a college counselor at SAR.</li><li><a href="https://source.wustl.edu/2011/09/james-e-mcleod-67/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jim McLeod</a>—was Marie's champion at Wash U when he was Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences. (He passed away in 2011.)</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandi-smith-24a61457/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Brandi Smith</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevefrappier1/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Steve Frappier</a>, co-leaders of ACCEPT.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/AcceptGroup" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@ACCEPTGroup</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/HackTheGates" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@HackTheGates</a></li></ul>Links and lists<ul><li>ACCEPT was featured in a Chronicle of Higher Education article by Eric Hoover: <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/The-Admissions-Activists-Are/246924" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Admissions Activists are Here to Make You Uncomfortable.</a> (Aug. 11, 2019).</li><li>Marie referred to Amy Poehler's "Smart Girls Ask Amy" series on YouTube, specifically <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvYO4CTixI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this episode</a> about courage in the face of a risk.</li><li>She's loving the NYT <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1619 Project</a></li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Marie's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21DFnu00Dc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rollout</a> (this one's the PG version) by Ludacris</li><li>Best thing she's read lately: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/patti-smith-on-singing-at-bob-dylans-nobel-prize-ceremony" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How Does It Feel</a>, a 2016 New Yorker article by Patti Smith</li><li>What she's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sissy-Coming-Gender-Jacob-Tobia/dp/073521882X" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sissy: A Coming-of-Gender Story</a> by Jacob Tobia</li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: Lechturm 1917 A5 Hardcover notebook with dot grid (<a href="https://www.leuchtturm1917.us/notebook-medium-a5-hardcover-251-numbered-pages-5-3-4-x-8-1-4-in.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">find it here</a>) with notes written in black ink with a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Retractable-Premium-Roller-31277/dp/B0017TMMLS/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=CjwKCAjwtuLrBRAlEiwAPVcZBvWCDC6Le5EXTm6cgOqtLNtumVWsHanaKEDruOX6VjtgQMm7WqOqeRoCtZEQAvD_BwE&amp;hvadid=381152613002&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=1027830&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=2039836271660626799&amp;hvtargid=kwd-815952329433&amp;hydadcr=5407_9609436&amp;keywords=pilot+g2-38&amp;qid=1568258182&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pilot G2 Ultrafine .38mm pen</a></li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Walk with confidence and carry a file folder... people will think you know what you're doing."</li><li>Bucket list: Alaska. It's the only state she hasn't visited.</li></ul>

Todd Rinehart

Ken chats with Todd Rinehart, Vice Chancellor for Enrollment at the University of Denver, former chair of NACAC's Admission Practices Committee, and candidate for NACAC president.Shout-outs &amp; LinksRoger Campbell—Admission Dean Emeritus at University of Denver, and one of Todd's mentors. (passed away in 2009)Tom Willoughby—Vice Chancellor Emeritus at University of Denver and Todd's longtime colleagueNancy Beane—Associate Director of College Counseling at the Westminster Schools and former NACAC president (2016-17) Joyce Smith—as Todd describes her, "NACAC's powerhouse CEO" who will be retiring in 2020.@ToddRinehart, @NACACThis podcast has an elevation gain of 4490' between Appleton, Wisconsin (where Ken is) and Denver.Rapid DescentTodd's walkout song: Don't Stop Believin' by JourneyBest thing he's read lately: The Power of Privilege by Joseph A. SoaresWhat he's eager to read next: Becoming Hispanic-Serving Institutions: Opportunities for Colleges and Universities by Gina Ann GarciaFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: chocolate-chip pancakes with his daughterWhat he uses to take and keep notes: nifty DU-branded portfolio, available at the University of Denver bookstoreMemorable bit of advice: "Life is for the living." (Tom Willoughby)Bucket list: Golfing at Augusta National... with Ken... after riding there on a bike.

Ken chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-rinehart-7034a710/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Todd Rinehart</a>, Vice Chancellor for Enrollment at the <a href="https://www.du.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">University of Denver</a>, former chair of NACAC's Admission Practices Committee, and candidate for NACAC president. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li><a href="https://magazine-archive.du.edu/featured-categories/magazine-feature/former-admissions-dean-helped-du-increase-enrollment/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Roger Campbell</a>—Admission Dean Emeritus at University of Denver, and one of Todd's mentors. (passed away in 2009)</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/tfwilloughby" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tom Willoughby</a>—Vice Chancellor Emeritus at University of Denver and Todd's longtime colleague</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-beane-08b5768/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nancy Beane</a>—Associate Director of College Counseling at the Westminster Schools and former NACAC president (2016-17) </li><li><a href="https://www.nacacnet.org/news--publications/newsroom/press-releases/nacac-ceo-joyce-smith-to-retire-in-2020/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Joyce Smith</a>—as Todd describes her, "NACAC's powerhouse CEO" who will be retiring in 2020.</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/ToddRinehart" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@ToddRinehart</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/RitchieSchool" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@NACAC</a></li><li>This podcast has an elevation gain of 4490' between Appleton, Wisconsin (where Ken is) and Denver.</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Todd's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Don't Stop Believin'</a> by Journey</li><li>Best thing he's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Power-Privilege-Americas-Elite-Colleges/dp/0804756384" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Power of Privilege</a> by Joseph A. Soares</li><li>What he's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Hispanic-Serving-Institutions-Opportunities-Universities/dp/1421427370/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DYR6POOPGFUJ&amp;keywords=becoming+hispanic+serving+institutions&amp;qid=1568862954&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=becoming+an+hispanic+%2Cstripbooks%2C161&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Becoming Hispanic-Serving Institutions: Opportunities for Colleges and Universities</a> by Gina Ann Garcia</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: chocolate-chip pancakes with his daughter</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: nifty DU-branded portfolio, available at the <a href="https://www.bkstr.com/denverstore" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">University of Denver bookstore</a></li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Life is for the living." (Tom Willoughby)</li><li>Bucket list: Golfing at Augusta National... with Ken... after riding there on a bike.</li></ul>

Ken chats with Cornell LeSane, Vice President for Enrollment &amp; Dean of Admissions at Allegheny College (Meadville, PA), and newly elected NACAC board director. We learn what a higher ed, a croquet match, and Downton Abbey have to do with each other, and also why you never turn around in racquetball.Shout-outs &amp; LinksNancy Beane and Ellen Deitrich, who "voluntold" Cornell to run for NACAC board.  Mike Steidel, Dean of Admission at Carnegie MellonBill Elliot, VP emeritus at Carnegie MellonSue Stuebner, former EVP at Allegheny now President at Colby-Sawyer, who asked Cornell to join her in a HUGE presentation early in Cornell's tenure at Allegheny.Rapid DescentCornell's walkout song: Happy by PharrellBest thing he's read lately: Blue Ocean Strategy by W. Chan Kim and Renee MauborgneWhat he's eager to read next: The Years That Matter Most by Paul ToughFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Pancakes.What he uses to take and keep notes: Paper and pen agnostic: whatever notepad or journal book is available.Memorable bit of advice: "It's easier to catch bees with honey." (Bonus: "In God we trust. All others bring data.")Bucket list: Continue traveling and remain open to the possibility of where he might go. Russia was a wonderful surprise that happened that way.

Ken chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cornell-lesane-34a1b45/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cornell LeSane</a>, Vice President for Enrollment &amp; Dean of Admissions at <a href="https://twitter.com/alleghenycol" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allegheny College</a> (Meadville, PA), and newly elected NACAC board director. We learn what a higher ed, a croquet match, and Downton Abbey have to do with each other, and also why you never turn around in racquetball. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li>Nancy Beane and Ellen Deitrich, who "voluntold" Cornell to run for NACAC board.  </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-steidel-9942a738/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mike Steidel</a>, Dean of Admission at Carnegie Mellon</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-elliott-17968838/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bill Elliot</a>, VP emeritus at Carnegie Mellon</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-stuebner-16226810/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sue Stuebner</a>, former EVP at Allegheny now President at Colby-Sawyer, who asked Cornell to join her in a HUGE presentation early in Cornell's tenure at Allegheny.</li><li> </li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Cornell's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Happy</a> by Pharrell</li><li>Best thing he's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ocean-Strategy-Expanded-Uncontested/dp/1625274491/ref=sr_1_2?crid=14RBMT146NYON&amp;keywords=blue+ocean+strategy&amp;qid=1571265917&amp;sprefix=blue+ocean+%2Caps%2C167&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blue Ocean Strategy</a> by W. Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne</li><li>What he's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Years-That-Matter-Most-College/dp/0544944488/ref=sr_1_2?crid=261QY2A1I6AZY&amp;keywords=the+years+that+matter+most+paul+tough&amp;qid=1571265997&amp;sprefix=The+years%2Caps%2C172&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Years That Matter Most </a>by Paul Tough</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Pancakes.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: Paper and pen agnostic: whatever notepad or journal book is available.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "It's easier to catch bees with honey." (Bonus: "In God we trust. All others bring data.")</li><li>Bucket list: Continue traveling and remain open to the possibility of where he might go. Russia was a wonderful surprise that happened that way.</li></ul>

Cornell LeSane

Jon Boeckenstedt

Ken chats with Jon Boeckenstedt, vice provost for enrollment at Oregon State University, and the mind behind Higher Ed Data Stories, a treasure trove of data-driven (and data-visualized) observations about the state of higher ed. Jon shares some views about his recent career move as well as surprises about his reading and writing habits, as well as the unusual upside of the imposter syndrome.Shout-outs &amp; LinksA couple of other places to get your Boeckenfix: jonboeckenstedt.net and Out Here In Oregon.The Test and The Art of Thinking a documentary about standardized tests, their role in college admission, and how they do (and don't) predict academic success. Jon's early influences that inform his wonderment about the absurdity of life: Mad Magazine's Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions (Vol. 1-3); The Stranger by Albert Camus; and Monty Python.500px and Flickr, two collections of Jon's photographyAn investigative report on whether Alex Bello is, in fact, Marlon Jackson's Episode sponsored by InitialView and their latest development, Elevator Pitch.Rapid DescentWalkout song: Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who.Best recent read: A Wikipedia entry about Norman Borlaug, which inspired him to name March 25 (Borlaug's birthday) National Test-Optional Day.Eager to read next: The Years that Matter Most by Paul Tough ("Apparently I'm in it...")Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Semi-homemade killer chili: Hormel chili + extra sharp cheddar + Frank's Red Hot + bacon bits.What he uses to take and keep notes: Not much of a notetaker, but Jon loves a good fountain pen. Though he owns a Montblanc, he prefers his Sheaffer (for writing in black) and Lamy (for writing in blue).Memorable bit of advice: "Everybody is an imposter." Bucket list: "I do not and never have had a bucket list."

Ken chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/JonBoeckenstedt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jon Boeckenstedt</a>, vice provost for enrollment at <a href="https://oregonstate.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Oregon State University</a>, and the mind behind <a href="https://www.highereddatastories.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Higher Ed Data Stories</a>, a treasure trove of data-driven (and data-visualized) observations about the state of higher ed. Jon shares some views about his recent career move as well as surprises about his reading and writing habits, as well as the unusual upside of the imposter syndrome. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li>A couple of other places to get your Boeckenfix: <a href="https://jonboeckenstedt.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jonboeckenstedt.net</a> and <a href="https://www.outhereinoregon.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Out Here In Oregon</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.thetestdoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Test and The Art of Thinking</a> a documentary about standardized tests, their role in college admission, and how they do (and don't) predict academic success. </li><li>Jon's early influences that inform his wonderment about the absurdity of life: <a href="https://www.madmagazine.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mad Magazine's</a> Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions (Vol. 1-3); <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Albert-Camus/dp/0679720200" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Stranger</a> by Albert Camus; and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monty Python</a>.</li><li><a href="https://500px.com/jonboeckenstedt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">500px</a> and <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/jboecken/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Flickr</a>, two collections of Jon's photography</li><li>An <a href="https://www.thewrap.com/john-mulaney-sack-lunch-bunch-alex-marlon-jackson-son-michael-jackson-nephew/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">investigative report</a> on whether Alex Bello is, in fact, Marlon Jackson's </li><li>Episode sponsored by <a href="https://initialview.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">InitialView</a> and their latest development, <a href="http://initialview.com/elevatorpitch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elevator Pitch</a>.</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDfAdHBtK_Q" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Won't Get Fooled Again</a> by The Who.</li><li>Best recent read: A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wikipedia entry about Norman Borlaug</a>, which inspired him to name March 25 (Borlaug's birthday) National <a href="https://jonboeckenstedt.net/2020/02/01/a-proposal-march-25th-is-test-optional-day/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Test-Optional Day</a>.</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LC92MH2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Years that Matter Most</a> by Paul Tough ("Apparently I'm in it...")</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Semi-homemade killer chili: Hormel chili + extra sharp cheddar + Frank's Red Hot + bacon bits.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: Not much of a notetaker, but Jon loves a good fountain pen. Though he owns a <a href="https://www.montblanc.com/en-us/home.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Montblanc</a>, he prefers his <a href="https://www.sheaffer.com/sh_en_us/our-pens/by-writing-type/fountain-pen" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sheaffer</a> (for writing in black) and <a href="https://www.lamy.com/en/fountain-pens/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lamy</a> (for writing in blue).</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Everybody is an imposter." </li><li>Bucket list: "I do not and never have had a bucket list."</li></ul>

Suzanne Lepley

Ken chats with Suzanne Lepley, Interim Dean of Admission at Kalamazoo College, and learns the power of positivity and sweating out stress, as well as what cookies have to do with good interview questions.Shout-outs &amp; LinksColleges That Change Lives—"Any group that works in higher ed together has more power than any individual institution for the betterment of higher education."Jeff Rickey, former enrollment chief at Earlham College who was an early mentor to Suzanne Marty O'Connell—former executive director of CTCL and mentor to Suzanne. Rapid DescentSuzanne's walkout song: No Sleep Till Brooklyn by Beastie BoysBest thing she's read lately: Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia OwensWhat she's eager to read next: Becoming by Michelle ObamaFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Superhero muffins (for her swimmer daughter)What she uses to take and keep notes: Shinola notebooks made in Detroit, written with the Pilot Precise V5RT. Also, for color-coding, Paper Mate Flair felt tips.Memorable bit of advice: "People first. Put people first."Bucket list: a yoga retreat in Italy (combines her three favorite things, yoga, food, and Italy)Episode sponsorMany thanks to RHB, a marketing and design consultancy serving higher education and helping great causes succeed since 1991.

Ken chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanne-lepley-174b6741/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Suzanne Lepley</a>, Interim Dean of Admission at <a href="http://www.kzoo.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kalamazoo College</a>, and learns the power of positivity and sweating out stress, as well as what cookies have to do with good interview questions. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li><a href="http://www.ctcl.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Colleges That Change Lives</a>—"Any group that works in higher ed together has more power than any individual institution for the betterment of higher education."</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-rickey-a462a21b/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jeff Rickey</a>, former enrollment chief at Earlham College who was an early mentor to Suzanne </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marty-o-connell-004775a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marty O'Connell</a>—former executive director of CTCL and mentor to Suzanne. </li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Suzanne's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Y0cy-nvAg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">No Sleep Till Brooklyn</a> by Beastie Boys</li><li>Best thing she's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Where-Crawdads-Sing-Delia-Owens/dp/0735219095/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1570073134&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Where the Crawdads Sing</a> by Delia Owens</li><li>What she's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Michelle-Obama/dp/1524763136/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1570073210&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Becoming </a>by Michelle Obama</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: <a href="https://runfasteatslow.com/blogs/news/superhero-muffins" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Superhero muffins</a> (for her swimmer daughter)</li><li>What she uses to take and keep notes: <a href="https://www.shinola.com/journals.html?source_campaign=Brand%20-%20Journal%20(BMM)&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw2K3rBRDiARIsAOFSW_6dZLnX4t_0A1hRGJbqAxAkPZ1JfJGMYmiXRV_cj_UWVVQH1BnIAE4aAtFTEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Shinola notebooks</a> made in Detroit, written with the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Precise-Retractable-Ink-5mm-26062/dp/B001E6A9M8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=29TTH8HKH3HWQ&amp;keywords=pilot+precise+v5+rt&amp;qid=1570073316&amp;sprefix=pilot+price%2Caps%2C177&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pilot Precise V5RT</a>. Also, for color-coding, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748V7SNH?aaxitk=bI-YFw.w.hM.iHZD299EhA&amp;pd_rd_i=B0748V7SNH&amp;pf_rd_p=44fc3e0f-4b9e-4ed8-b33b-363a7257163d&amp;hsa_cr_id=4479820050701&amp;sb-ci-n=asinImage&amp;sb-ci-v=https%3A%2F%2Fm.media-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F91uxnzu6TwL.jpg&amp;sb-ci-a=B0748V7SNH" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Paper Mate Flair felt tips</a>.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "People first. Put people first."</li><li>Bucket list: a yoga retreat in Italy (combines her three favorite things, yoga, food, and Italy)</li></ul>Episode sponsor<ul><li>Many thanks to <a href="http://www.rhb.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">RHB</a>, a marketing and design consultancy serving higher education and helping great causes succeed since 1991.</li></ul>

Heath Einstein

Ken chats with Heath Einstein, Dean of Admission at TCU about his circuitous journey to his current role, and learns the power of working as hard in your personal life as you do in your work life.Shout-outs &amp; LinksFormer George Washington U colleagues Rhonda Leshman and Rafi Blumenthal.  Jan Goldstein, formerly of Solomon Schechter in Long Island who referred him to his first counseling gig at Solomon Schechter in Westchester.Carol Wasden, who hired Heath at HockadayRay Brown, Ken's and Heath's former bossThe Power of Moments, by Chip and Dan Heath.Rapid DescentHeath's walkout song: Hunger Strike by Temple of the DogBest thing he's read lately: The Privileged Poor: How Elite Colleges are Failing Disadvantaged Students by Anthony JackWhat he's eager to read next: Beloved by Toni MorrisonFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Omelettes that sound suspiciously like a scramble.What he uses to take and keep notes: Moleskine notebook for big ideas; simple spiral-bound non-Trapper Keeper for meetings and conversations. Purple   Uniball pen.Memorable bit of advice: "Return your voicemails first thing in the morning." Also, "Keep reading."Bucket list: Wrigley Field, much to the chagrin of the host, a devoted Milwaukee Brewers fan.

Ken chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/HeathEinstein" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heath Einstein</a>, Dean of Admission at <a href="http://www.tcu.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TCU</a> about his circuitous journey to his current role, and learns the power of working as hard in your personal life as you do in your work life. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li>Former George Washington U colleagues <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhonda-leshman-88647312/?originalSubdomain=es" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rhonda Leshman</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafi-blumenthal-b6b79b10a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rafi Blumenthal</a>.  </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-goldstein-3721544/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jan Goldstein</a>, formerly of Solomon Schechter in Long Island who referred him to his first counseling gig at Solomon Schechter in Westchester.</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-wasden-042ba762/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Carol Wasden</a>, who hired Heath at Hockaday</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayabrown/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ray Brown</a>, Ken's and Heath's former boss</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+power+of+the+moments&amp;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIssnzpbeQ5QIVkJOzCh11iQsqEAAYASAAEgKnavD_BwE&amp;hvadid=270404472864&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9019064&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=1624557197585977130&amp;hvtargid=kwd-471474622760&amp;hydadcr=22564_10354992&amp;tag=googhydr-20&amp;ref=pd_sl_9i0cqmpraq_e" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Power of Moments</a>, by Chip and Dan Heath.</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Heath's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb450Alpps" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hunger Strike</a> by Temple of the Dog</li><li>Best thing he's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Poor-Colleges-Disadvantaged-Students/dp/0674976894/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1LG_z7eQ5QIVDhQMCh1j8gHcEAAYASAAEgIVVPD_BwE&amp;hvadid=322011941479&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9019064&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=11688253076603489984&amp;hvtargid=kwd-610790709275&amp;hydadcr=22538_9636740&amp;keywords=the+privileged+poor&amp;qid=1570667293&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Privileged Poor: How Elite Colleges are Failing Disadvantaged Students</a> by Anthony Jack</li><li>What he's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beloved-Toni-Morrison/dp/1400033411/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YPZDPANQTBIA&amp;keywords=beloved+toni+morrison&amp;qid=1570667360&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=beloved%2Cstripbooks%2C264&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Beloved </a>by Toni Morrison</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Omelettes that sound suspiciously like a scramble.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: <a href="https://us.moleskine.com/en/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Moleskine notebook</a> for big ideas; simple spiral-bound non-Trapper Keeper for meetings and conversations. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Uniball-UB157-Fine-Point-Roller/dp/B00006IE8V/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=uniball+pen+purple&amp;qid=1570667428&amp;s=books&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Purple   Uniball pen</a>.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Return your voicemails first thing in the morning." Also, "Keep reading."</li><li>Bucket list: Wrigley Field, much to the chagrin of the host, a devoted Milwaukee Brewers fan.</li></ul>

With 10 episodes in the books, we've come to the end of season one.(There will be a season two... coming soon.)There are many more guests lined up for next season, but if you have suggestions of folks you'd love to hear on the podcast, let me know via email or Twitter.In the meantime, if you're looking for walkout songs, you'll find the Admissions Leadership Playlist on Apple Music and Spotify. And if you're looking for that next good read, the right notebook, or a pen that allows you to write with panache, check out the ALP idea list on Amazon.

With 10 episodes in the books, we've come to the end of season one. (There will be a season two... coming soon.) There are many more guests lined up for next season, but if you have suggestions of folks you'd love to hear on the podcast, let me know via <a href="mailto:ken.anselment@lawrence.edu">email</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/KenAnselment" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. In the meantime, if you're looking for walkout songs, you'll find the Admissions Leadership Playlist on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/alp-the-admissions-leadership-playlist/pl.u-aZg0CRk56x" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4tSjBtirfBaP9XlOnVmtrj?si=Dfw8k0tOQCi_wCgHD_i1gA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. And if you're looking for that next good read, the right notebook, or a pen that allows you to write with panache, check out the <a href="http://a.co/c8xL7VW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ALP idea list on Amazon</a>.

Reflections on Season One

Carmen Lopez

Ken learns why "leadership is motion" with Carmen Lopez, Executive Director of College Horizons, a national educational non-profit serving American Indian, Alaskan Native, and Hawaiian Native students in their transition to college and graduate school.Shout-outs &amp; LinksClaudio Sanchez's NPR story on College Horizons recorded at Lawrence University: How Native Students Can Succeed in College: "Be As Tough As the Land That Made You"Shout-outs to:Whitney Laughlin (founder of College Horizons) and Christine Suina, College Horizons program coordinatorDr. Robert Binswanger of Dartmouth, an early mentorDr. Adrienne Keene, author of Native Appropriations and co-host of All My Relations with Matika Wilbur.Also: Candace Jimmerson, Bryan Brayboy, Jonathan Burdick, Joanie Brotman, Ralph Figueroa, DeAngela Burns-Wallace, and Regis Pecos (Cochiti Pueblo)Rapid DescentWalkout songs (it's a playlist): I Love Rock'n'Roll (Joan Jett); Nasty (Janet Jackson); Kickstart My Heart (Mötley Crüe); Cult of Personality (Living Colour); Sabotage (Beastie Boys); Sisters (A Tribe Called Red); Kiss Me Deadly (Lita Ford); Are You Gonna Go My Way (Lenny Kravitz); Pynk (Janelle Monae); Get Ur Freak On (Missy Elliott)... all of which have been added to the ALP playlists on Apple Music and Spotify.Best recent reads: Navajo Coyote Stories and Star Wars Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire (both of which she has read with her kids); The Organized Mind: Thinking Straight in an Age of Information Overload (Daniel Levitin); The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse (Charles Mackesy)... all of which have been added to the ALP Goodies List.Eager to read next: The Testaments (Margaret Atwood)Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Blue Corn Mash for the kids; Pinto Beans and Ham Hocks (with a LOT of cumin)For taking and keeping notes: One Note, a couple of Mead notebooks for brain dumps and... well, she warns you to keep an eye on your best penMemorable bit of advice: From one of the elders who led the opening circle at a College Horizons college program: "Don't forget that while we might have generational trauma, we also have generational stamina."Bucket list: Even though she doesn't have a bucket list, she still needs to see two concerts: Buddy Guy and Def Leppard.

Ken learns why "leadership is motion" with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmen-lopez-252a76b/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Carmen Lopez</a>, Executive Director of <a href="https://collegehorizons.publishpath.com/default.aspx?OriginalDomain=www.collegehorizons.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">College Horizons</a>, a national educational non-profit serving American Indian, Alaskan Native, and Hawaiian Native students in their transition to college and graduate school. Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li>Claudio Sanchez's NPR story on College Horizons recorded at Lawrence University: <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/09/26/493112553/how-native-students-can-succeed-in-college-be-as-tough-as-the-land-that-made-you" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How Native Students Can Succeed in College: "Be As Tough As the Land That Made You"</a></li><li>Shout-outs to:</li><li>Whitney Laughlin (founder of College Horizons) and Christine Suina, College Horizons program coordinator</li><li>Dr. Robert Binswanger of Dartmouth, an early mentor</li><li>Dr. Adrienne Keene, author of <a href="http://nativeappropriations.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Native Appropriations</a> and co-host of <a href="https://www.allmyrelationspodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">All My Relations</a> with Matika Wilbur.</li><li>Also: Candace Jimmerson, Bryan Brayboy, Jonathan Burdick, Joanie Brotman, Ralph Figueroa, DeAngela Burns-Wallace, and Regis Pecos (Cochiti Pueblo)</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout songs (it's a playlist): I Love Rock'n'Roll (Joan Jett); Nasty (Janet Jackson); Kickstart My Heart (Mötley Crüe); Cult of Personality (Living Colour); Sabotage (Beastie Boys); Sisters (A Tribe Called Red); Kiss Me Deadly (Lita Ford); Are You Gonna Go My Way (Lenny Kravitz); Pynk (Janelle Monae); Get Ur Freak On (Missy Elliott)... all of which have been added to the ALP playlists on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/alp-the-admissions-leadership-playlist/pl.u-aZg0CRk56x" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4tSjBtirfBaP9XlOnVmtrj?si=WPWlwHOCTmi4VOceI9vCHQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>.</li><li>Best recent reads: Navajo Coyote Stories and Star Wars Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire (both of which she has read with her kids); The Organized Mind: Thinking Straight in an Age of Information Overload (Daniel Levitin); The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse (Charles Mackesy)... all of which have been added to the <a href="http://a.co/c8xL7VW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ALP Goodies List</a>.</li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Testaments-Novel-Margaret-Atwood-ebook/dp/B07KVLPYDQ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3EJ2XUPA9K9T9&amp;keywords=the+testaments+margaret+atwood&amp;qid=1580992904&amp;sprefix=the+testa%2Caps%2C175&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Testaments</a> (Margaret Atwood)</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Blue Corn Mash for the kids; Pinto Beans and Ham Hocks (with a LOT of cumin)</li><li>For taking and keeping notes: One Note, a couple of Mead notebooks for brain dumps and... well, she warns you to keep an eye on your best pen</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: From one of the elders who led the opening circle at a College Horizons college program: "Don't forget that while we might have generational trauma, we also have generational stamina."</li><li>Bucket list: Even though she doesn't have a bucket list, she still needs to see two concerts: Buddy Guy and Def Leppard.</li></ul>

Ken's all by himself at the ALP studio, getting ready for the NACAC conference... as well as what comes after the big vote at the conference.We'll have new episodes again after the conference, but for now, you can enjoy a few additions to the ALP media empire (he says ironically):ALP: The Admissions Leadership PlaylistWalkout songs of all ALP guests are available on Apple Music and Spotify playlists.Also, you can find a list of good reads and nifty things on Amazon.

Ken's all by himself at the ALP studio, getting ready for the NACAC conference... as well as what comes after the <a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/09/03/admissions-association-says-it-must-pull-measures-ethics-code-avoid" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">big vote</a> at the conference. We'll have new episodes again after the conference, but for now, you can enjoy a few additions to the ALP media empire (he says ironically): ALP: The Admissions Leadership Playlist Walkout songs of all ALP guests are available on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/alp-the-admissions-leadership-playlist/pl.u-aZg0CRk56x" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4tSjBtirfBaP9XlOnVmtrj?si=NgXww0qRT5iDC7RgGNbHsg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a> playlists. Also, you can find a <a href="http://a.co/c8xL7VW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">list of good reads and nifty things on Amazon</a>.

Interlude: The NACAC conference, etc.

Akil Bello

Ken chats with Akil Bello, founder of Bell Curves, who shares his views on higher ed and some news about a new professional adventure that fits perfectly with his leadership in matters around standardized testing. (And if you haven't read his writings on his website, Bellowings, you should give it a go.)Shout-outs &amp; LinksAkil's presentation on entrepreneurship at the Harlem Business Alliance.An investigative report on whether Alex Bello is, in fact, Marlon Jackson's son, as referenced/joked about in the Netflix show, John Mulaney and the Sack Lunch Bunch.A blog post and full slide deck from Akil's Illinois ACAC keynote.Cross promotional shout out to the Crush podcastEpisode sponsored by InitialView and their latest development, Elevator Pitch.Rapid DescentAkil's walkout song: My Philosophy by KRS OneBest thing he's read lately: Children of Virtue and Vengeance by Toni AdeyemiWhat he's eager to read next: The Gatekeepers by Jacques SteinbergFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Whiskey sour.What he uses to take and keep notes: "Far too many things..."Memorable bit of advice: From his father: "Until you have a business plan, it's a hobby." Bucket list: Going to the Gálapagos.

Ken chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/akilbello" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Akil Bello</a>, founder of <a href="https://www.bellcurves.com/index" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bell Curves</a>, who shares his views on higher ed and some news about a new professional adventure that fits perfectly with his leadership in matters around standardized testing. (And if you haven't read his writings on his website, <a href="http://akilbello.com/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bellowings</a>, you should give it a go.) Shout-outs &amp; Links<ul><li>Akil's <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgHljrPJKg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">presentation on entrepreneurship</a> at the Harlem Business Alliance.</li><li>An <a href="https://www.thewrap.com/john-mulaney-sack-lunch-bunch-alex-marlon-jackson-son-michael-jackson-nephew/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">investigative report</a> on whether Alex Bello is, in fact, Marlon Jackson's son, as referenced/joked about in the Netflix show, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omUnQ5ej6dY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John Mulaney and the Sack Lunch Bunch</a>.</li><li>A <a href="http://akilbello.com/iacac-keynote-a-summary/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">blog post and full slide deck</a> from Akil's Illinois ACAC keynote.</li><li>Cross promotional shout out to the Crush podcast</li><li>Episode sponsored by <a href="https://initialview.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">InitialView</a> and their latest development, Elevator Pitch.</li></ul>Rapid Descent<ul><li>Akil's walkout song: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1vKOchATXs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">My Philosophy</a> by KRS One</li><li>Best thing he's read lately: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Children-Virtue-Vengeance-Legacy-Orisha/dp/1250170990/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Children of Virtue and Vengeance</a> by Toni Adeyemi</li><li>What he's eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gatekeepers-Admissions-Process-Premier-College/dp/0142003085/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+gatekeepers+steinberg&amp;qid=1579838941&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Gatekeepers </a>by Jacques Steinberg</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Whiskey sour.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: "Far too many things..."</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: From his father: "Until you have a business plan, it's a hobby." </li><li>Bucket list: Going to the Gálapagos.</li></ul>

Darryl Uy

Ken chats with Darryl Uy, director of admission at Bates College in Lewiston, Maine. \In the episode Darryl illustrates the joys and advantages of being the director instead of the VP or dean, and how majoring in theater is the perfect prep for being an admission director.Rapid DescentWalkout song: Don't Give Up on Me by Andy Grammer and Broken &amp; Beautiful by Kelly ClarksonBest recent read: The Imperfectionists by Tom Rachman Eager to read next: This Is How It Always Is by Laurie FrankelFavorite thing to make in the kitchen: Making room for his husband to make the best chicken and eggplant parmigiana in the world.What he uses to take and keep notes: If I'm out and about, Notes app on my phone, otherwise Google Docs. And there's a fountain pen he got from his parents for graduation that needs an ink refill.Memorable bit of advice: "Be proud of who you are. Be proud of where you came from. And always give people the respect they deserve by learning how to pronounce their name correctly."Bucket list: See every movie that has been nominated or has won the Oscar for Best Picture. He's done everything from the present back to 1989.Bonus rapid descent items (movie recommendations): Saving Face and The Half of It by Alice Wu

Ken chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrylUy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Darryl Uy</a>, director of admission at <a href="https://www.bates.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bates College</a> in Lewiston, Maine. \In the episode Darryl illustrates the joys and advantages of being the director instead of the VP or dean, and how majoring in theater is the perfect prep for being an admission director.Rapid Descent<ul><li>Walkout song: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5A3fPy30SN2wuzrahpcxvV?si=upUxdRQmTfKEjj6op-cdgQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Don't Give Up on Me</a> by Andy Grammer and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/1Y9cAYTmyWJCcmfqdG2I29?si=zHfuC2X6T0mlDIwaP3kfMg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Broken &amp; Beautiful</a> by Kelly Clarkson</li><li>Best recent read: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Imperfectionists-Novel-Random-Readers-Circle/dp/0385343671/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1589505470&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Imperfectionists</a> by Tom Rachman </li><li>Eager to read next: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/This-How-Always-LAURIE-FRANKEL/dp/1250088569/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1589505530&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This Is How It Always Is</a> by Laurie Frankel</li><li>Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Making room for his husband to make the best chicken and eggplant parmigiana in the world.</li><li>What he uses to take and keep notes: If I'm out and about, Notes app on my phone, otherwise Google Docs. And there's a fountain pen he got from his parents for graduation that needs an ink refill.</li><li>Memorable bit of advice: "Be proud of who you are. Be proud of where you came from. And always give people the respect they deserve by learning how to pronounce their name correctly."</li><li>Bucket list: See every movie that has been nominated or has won the Oscar for Best Picture. He's done everything from the present back to 1989.</li><li>Bonus rapid descent items (movie recommendations): Saving Face and The Half of It by Alice Wu</li></ul>

Ken chats with—well—himself. No the quarantine isn't going that badly for him, but it seems like May 1 is a good day to pause and reflect on our previous expectations for—and now the new reality of—The Big Day.Shameless cross-promotion: Why Do We Do This? an article I published almost a year ago about the challenges and the gifts that come with the work of college admission counseling. 

Ken chats with—well—himself. No the quarantine isn't going that badly for him, but it seems like May 1 is a good day to pause and reflect on our previous expectations for—and now the new reality of—The Big Day. Shameless cross-promotion: <a href="https://medium.com/@ken.anselment/why-do-we-do-this-878e12c11c59" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Why Do We Do This?</a> an article I published almost a year ago about the challenges and the gifts that come with the work of college admission counseling.

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