People of all identities connect through shared culture, whether it’s language, region, or a subculture like hip hop. So who gets to decide what culture you have access to and can claim as yours? What makes an expression of culture “authentic?”We’re digging into culture versus cultural appropriation, the difference between culture and race, the impact of socio-cultural environment on expression, and why critiques and call-outs aren’t always helpful or necessary.Listen to the full episode to hear:Make It Make Sense: Why are we one-upping each other about wildfires?The difference between caricaturizing Black womanhood and expressing your natural tone, cadence, and vernacularHow race and culture all too often get conflatedHow callouts without context reinforce the notion of racial monolithsHow enforcing and upholding racial stereotypes is a product of white supremacy cultureWho actually gets to call out cultural appropriation and whether a cultural representation is authentic or performativeSupport the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworksLinks and Resources:Nina Lin on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@n.nina666Madonna Might Be An Appropriator…But You Don’t Have to Be:  https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/be1bfa8a2cb2944b9296335a49787156Learn more about Trudi Lebron:Website: www.trudilebron.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran:Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

People of all identities connect through shared culture, whether it’s language, region, or a subculture like hip hop. So who gets to decide what culture you have access to and can claim as yours? What makes an expression of culture “authentic?” We’re digging into culture versus cultural appropriation, the difference between culture and race, the impact of socio-cultural environment on expression, and why critiques and call-outs aren’t always helpful or necessary. Listen to the full episode to hear: Make It Make Sense: Why are we one-upping each other about wildfires? The difference between caricaturizing Black womanhood and expressing your natural tone, cadence, and vernacular How race and culture all too often get conflated How callouts without context reinforce the notion of racial monoliths How enforcing and upholding racial stereotypes is a product of white supremacy culture Who actually gets to call out cultural appropriation and whether a cultural representation is authentic or performative Support the show on Patreon: <a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a> Links and Resources: Nina Lin on TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@n.nina666" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.tiktok.com/@n.nina666</a> Madonna Might Be An Appropriator…But You Don’t Have to Be: https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/be1bfa8a2cb2944b9296335a49787156 Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: <a href="http://www.trudilebron.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.trudilebron.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/trudilebron/</a> Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: <a href="http://www.accordingtoweeze.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.accordingtoweeze.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/</a>

Ep 107: Culture vs Cultural Appropriation

Today, we’re getting into the world of professional sports.Ja Morant is a basketball player for the Memphis Grizzlies who has been in the news this year for multiple incidents of misconduct and erratic behavior and was suspended from multiple NBA games, including his most recent bout of cryptic messages on social media that led to a welfare check by Tennessee police.But what we want to talk about is how we can reframe these events and their aftermath in a more liberatory, anti-oppressive way.Content note: this episode will contain discussion of guns and gun cultureListen to the full episode to hear:A brief history of Morant’s misconduct and why the morality clause in his contract matters more than whether he broke any lawsHow public perception and brand management shape the consequences of actions like Morant’sHow systemic oppression and limited opportunities lead to athletes being upheld as role models when they shouldn’t necessarily beWhy it matters that Morant is only 23The NBA’s evolving response to gun culture in the last decadeA youth development approach to handling these kinds of cases that actually supports the person in making changeSupport the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworksLearn more about Trudi Lebron:Website: www.trudilebron.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran:Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

Today, we’re getting into the world of professional sports. Ja Morant is a basketball player for the Memphis Grizzlies who has been in the news this year for multiple incidents of misconduct and erratic behavior and was suspended from multiple NBA games, including his most recent bout of cryptic messages on social media that led to a welfare check by Tennessee police. But what we want to talk about is how we can reframe these events and their aftermath in a more liberatory, anti-oppressive way. Content note: this episode will contain discussion of guns and gun culture Listen to the full episode to hear: A brief history of Morant’s misconduct and why the morality clause in his contract matters more than whether he broke any laws How public perception and brand management shape the consequences of actions like Morant’s How systemic oppression and limited opportunities lead to athletes being upheld as role models when they shouldn’t necessarily be Why it matters that Morant is only 23 The NBA’s evolving response to gun culture in the last decade A youth development approach to handling these kinds of cases that actually supports the person in making change Support the show on Patreon: <a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a> Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: <a href="http://www.trudilebron.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.trudilebron.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/trudilebron/</a> Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: <a href="http://www.accordingtoweeze.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.accordingtoweeze.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/</a>

Ep 106: Ja Morant: What Healing, Justice, and Repair Looks Like

“This is a safe space.”It’s a common refrain, but what does it mean to be and to create safe spaces? And who gets to decide what is safe?Too often, declaring a space “safe” means being resistant to the discomfort of being challenged or held accountable.We’re digging into safe spaces, how the term has been defanged in popular discourse, and creating spaces that honor everyone’s humanity, while remaining open to challenging conversations, transparency, and accountability.Listen to the full episode to hear:-Why our spaces need to acknowledge and honor the humanity of everyone present-Why safe spaces need to leave room for challenges and accountability-Defining a safe space as a container for a exploration, practice, and transformation happening in community-How the popularization of the term has taken it from safe to soft-Why safe spaces require co-creation, reciprocity, and community agreements-Why consuming someone’s content doesn’t make them responsible for your safety-How aversion to conflict stalls social movements-Why Brene Brown’s definition of a safe space falls so shortSupport the show on Patreon: -patreon.com/nothowthatworksLinks and Resources:-Shawn Ginwright-Ep 29: When Glennon Doyle's Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong-Mellody Hobson: Color blind or color brave? | TED Talk-Ep. 94: So You Wanna Talk About AccountabilityLearn more about Trudi Lebron:⁃ Website: www.trudilebron.com/⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran:⁃ Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

“This is a safe space.” It’s a common refrain, but what does it mean to be and to create safe spaces? And who gets to decide what is safe? Too often, declaring a space “safe” means being resistant to the discomfort of being challenged or held accountable. We’re digging into safe spaces, how the term has been defanged in popular discourse, and creating spaces that honor everyone’s humanity, while remaining open to challenging conversations, transparency, and accountability. Listen to the full episode to hear: -Why our spaces need to acknowledge and honor the humanity of everyone present -Why safe spaces need to leave room for challenges and accountability -Defining a safe space as a container for a exploration, practice, and transformation happening in community -How the popularization of the term has taken it from safe to soft -Why safe spaces require co-creation, reciprocity, and community agreements -Why consuming someone’s content doesn’t make them responsible for your safety -How aversion to conflict stalls social movements -Why Brene Brown’s definition of a safe space falls so short Support the show on Patreon: -<a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a> Links and Resources: -Shawn Ginwright -Ep 29: When Glennon Doyle's Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong -Mellody Hobson: Color blind or color brave? | TED Talk -Ep. 94: So You Wanna Talk About Accountability Learn more about Trudi Lebron: ⁃ Website: <a href="http://www.trudilebron.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.trudilebron.com/</a> ⁃ Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/trudilebron/</a> Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran: ⁃ Website: <a href="http://www.accordingtoweeze.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.accordingtoweeze.com/</a> ⁃ Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/</a>

Ep 105: Unpacking the Concept of Safe Space

It’s easy to look at the day’s headlines and think: That’s not how things are supposed to work!Contempt for the planet. Fear of the other. Rampant inequity. Multi-billionaires in space.But we’ve got news: this is exactly how things are supposed to work. The systems that spin out scarcity, hate, and injustice are working exactly as they were designed to.Our goal is to reveal those systems—not just the ones embedded in our politics and culture but also in our minds—and explore the ways we can start to do things differently. We started this podcast to create a space to shine a light on all of the equity problems that we were seeing in the personal development and online business space. And after 103 episodes of critiquing and providing actionable solutions to this niche audience, we’re zooming out. Today, the project sounds a little different. The scaffolding of oppression is at work everywhere. In current events—from economic news to celebrity gossip, from not-so-random acts of violence to radical culture-making and everything in between.Collective liberation comes from our willingness to confront uncomfortable truths, build community, understand the interconnectedness of our humanity, and reimagine our way forward. There’s a path of possibility ahead of us as long as we can agree that this isn’t how things have to work.That’s Not How That Works brings you a real, unscripted, nuanced critique of the world available on all podcast platforms, so make sure to follow or subscribe on your podcast app of choice. And you can support the show by rating, leaving us a review, sharing the show, and joining us on Patreon for as little as $2 per month - that’s patreon.com/nothowthatworksWe hope that you’re as excited as we are about the new format and vibe of the show.Learn more about Trudi Lebron:Website: https://trudilebron.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran:Website: https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks

It’s easy to look at the day’s headlines and think: That’s not how things are supposed to work! Contempt for the planet. Fear of the other. Rampant inequity. Multi-billionaires in space. But we’ve got news: this is exactly how things are supposed to work. The systems that spin out scarcity, hate, and injustice are working exactly as they were designed to. Our goal is to reveal those systems—not just the ones embedded in our politics and culture but also in our minds—and explore the ways we can start to do things differently. We started this podcast to create a space to shine a light on all of the equity problems that we were seeing in the personal development and online business space. And after 103 episodes of critiquing and providing actionable solutions to this niche audience, we’re zooming out. Today, the project sounds a little different. The scaffolding of oppression is at work everywhere. In current events—from economic news to celebrity gossip, from not-so-random acts of violence to radical culture-making and everything in between. Collective liberation comes from our willingness to confront uncomfortable truths, build community, understand the interconnectedness of our humanity, and reimagine our way forward. There’s a path of possibility ahead of us as long as we can agree that this isn’t how things have to work. That’s Not How That Works brings you a real, unscripted, nuanced critique of the world available on all podcast platforms, so make sure to follow or subscribe on your podcast app of choice. And you can support the show by rating, leaving us a review, sharing the show, and joining us on Patreon for as little as $2 per month - that’s <a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a> We hope that you’re as excited as we are about the new format and vibe of the show. Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: <a href="https://trudilebron.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://trudilebron.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/</a> Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran: Website: <a href="https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/</a> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/</a> Support the show on Patreon: <a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a>

That's Not How That Works Trailer

And we’re back!It’s been a minute since we released an episode, so we’re going to catch you up on where we’ve been, how we got here, and what’s coming up for this iteration of the show as we return to our roots of applying our equity and liberation lens to what’s happening in the wider world.Listen to the full episode to hear:	⁃	Our evolution from Hey, Auntie to the coaching and personaldevelopment world and back to broader critique	⁃	How Trudi has shifted her work to creating opportunities to reach and impact more people, and why the podcast is a part of that	⁃	Why we need to be willing to get curious and have nuanced conversations about the path forward	⁃	How the show is reflecting Weeze’s realization that she needed to zoom out on how she was getting through the day-to-day	⁃	Why we’re pivoting away from discussing the coaching industrySupport the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources: 	⁃	If I Were a Fish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx_vMONe3tMLearn more about Trudi Lebron:	⁃	Website: trudilebron.com/	⁃	Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/Learn more about Louza "Weeze" Doran:	⁃	Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/	⁃	Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

And we’re back! It’s been a minute since we released an episode, so we’re going to catch you up on where we’ve been, how we got here, and what’s coming up for this iteration of the show as we return to our roots of applying our equity and liberation lens to what’s happening in the wider world. Listen to the full episode to hear: 	⁃	Our evolution from Hey, Auntie to the coaching and personal development world and back to broader critique 	⁃	How Trudi has shifted her work to creating opportunities to reach and impact more people, and why the podcast is a part of that 	⁃	Why we need to be willing to get curious and have nuanced conversations about the path forward 	⁃	How the show is reflecting Weeze’s realization that she needed to zoom out on how she was getting through the day-to-day 	⁃	Why we’re pivoting away from discussing the coaching industry Support the show on Patreon: <a href="http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a>  Links and Resources: 	⁃	If I Were a Fish: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx_vMONe3tM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx_vMONe3tM</a> Learn more about Trudi Lebron: 	⁃	Website: <a href="http://trudilebron.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trudilebron.com/</a> 	⁃	Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/trudilebron/</a> Learn more about Louza "Weeze" Doran: 	⁃	Website: <a href="http://www.accordingtoweeze.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.accordingtoweeze.com/</a> 	⁃	Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/</a>

Ep 104: Reimagining The Path Forward

In this episode Weeze and Trudi wrap up are series with a special invitation to eXpand. eXpansion is the process of liberation, personal exploration, equity, and transformation of our personal and social futures, and for the first time in three years, they are partnering up to facilitate this journey in a 4-month container that you are invited to. For all the details visit: www.yourinvitetoexpand.com

In this episode Weeze and Trudi wrap up are series with a special invitation to eXpand. eXpansion is the process of liberation, personal exploration, equity, and transformation of our personal and social futures, and for the first time in three years, they are partnering up to facilitate this journey in a 4-month container that you are invited to. For all the details visit: <a href="http://www.yourinvitetoexpand.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.yourinvitetoexpand.com</a>

Vignette 5: You're Invited to eXpand

If liberation isn't the goal, or destination (as we covered in vignette 3) then what is? In this vignette Weeze &amp; Trudi share the next step in the process of personal liberation and expansion, defining the destination.

If liberation isn't the goal, or destination (as we covered in vignette 3) then what is? In this vignette Weeze &amp; Trudi share the next step in the process of personal liberation and expansion, defining the destination.

Vignette 4: Defining Your Destination

In this vignette, Weeze and Trudi explore reframing the concept of liberation from a destination or goal, to a process and practice.

Vignette 3: Liberation is a Process, Not a Destination

In this episode we talk about the importance of reimagining what's possible in our lives, in our work, our world, and more. Weeze and Trudi have been on a reimagining journey of their own, both when it comes to their personal and collaborative work. We'll continue to talk about why reimagining is an important process in liberation and anti-oppression work.

In this episode we talk about the importance of reimagining what's possible in our lives, in our work, our world, and more. Weeze and Trudi have been on a reimagining journey of their own, both when it comes to their personal and collaborative work. We'll continue to talk about why reimagining is an important process in liberation and anti-oppression work.

Vignette 2: Reimagining what's possible

Trudi and Weeze are going rouge and have decided to release a 5-part minisode to catch you up, and bring you up to speed and where we're at and where we're going, The basics: That's Not How That Works is coming back with a new team, an upleved vibe, and expanded vision of the future... and we want you to come with us. We have big plans and we'd love for you to join us. Take a screenshot of the episode, share it to Instagram @trudilebron and @accordingtoweeze to skip ahead and get even more details about what we're up to and how can be down :)

Trudi and Weeze are going rouge and have decided to release a 5-part minisode to catch you up, and bring you up to speed and where we're at and where we're going, The basics: That's Not How That Works is coming back with a new team, an upleved vibe, and expanded vision of the future... and we want you to come with us. We have big plans and we'd love for you to join us. Take a screenshot of the episode, share it to Instagram @trudilebron and @accordingtoweeze to skip ahead and get even more details about what we're up to and how can be down :)

Vignette 1: We're going Rouge...

This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better! If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works  facebook group to continue the conversation! https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Enjoy the Show!

If you are white and ready to hear honest conversation about anti-racism and the work we as white people and white woman need to hear this is a great listen. I can not afford to not be told exactly how it is...
Thank you for this valuable resource and call to action!

Informative, Real, and Engagjng

The tone seemed condescending and a little too know it all-ish. Shaming people does not encourage learning. My opinion is perhaps due to my age, I am 50. Maybe this is how younger folks communicate now? I am Mexican American/Spanish/Middle Eastern, but am frequently assumed to be white. I’m always looking for new content to understand privilege and explore my heritage but this didn’t work for me. I’ll stick to Code Switch and keep looking.

Maybe for a younger listener?

This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities. Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better! If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Enjoy the Show!

That's Not How That Works

We throw around a lot of words that can be misunderstood or misinterpreted. In this episode we’re unpacking words like diversity AND inclusion (DNI) and talking about what they were intended for vs. how they are misused.  Hop over to episode 44 for all of the ways diversity and inclusion can have an impact. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

We throw around a lot of words that can be misunderstood or misinterpreted. In this episode we’re unpacking words like diversity AND inclusion (DNI) and talking about what they were intended for vs. how they are misused. Hop over to episode 44 for all of the ways diversity and inclusion can have an impact. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 68: The basics: justice, equity, diversity & inclusion

Happy New Year Everyone! In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze dive into the topic of White Centering. We explore mainstream and marginalized identities, give examples of how much of the world we live in is basically a world that centers whiteness.If you're a fan of the show join us in the Facebook Group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/

Happy New Year Everyone! In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze dive into the topic of White Centering. We explore mainstream and marginalized identities, give examples of how much of the world we live in is basically a world that centers whiteness. If you're a fan of the show join us in the Facebook Group here: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a>

Ep 37: The Basics of White Centering

Byron Katie

In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze discuss the coaching ideologies of “spiritual teachers and leaders” like Byron Katie. We explore how harmful new aged spiritual white women can be when coaching from a belief system that places the burden of oppression on the oppressed, like Byron Katie’s “work” does.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcastMusic by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze discuss the coaching ideologies of “spiritual teachers and leaders” like Byron Katie. We explore how harmful new aged spiritual white women can be when coaching from a belief system that places the burden of oppression on the oppressed, like Byron Katie’s “work” does. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcast</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 60: Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing

This is our last episode of the season!  Trudi and Weeze will be back in September with all new podcast episodes but in the meantime they have set up a curriculum to go back and listen to some of the most influential episodes so far.  These are for you whether you are a newcomer to the podcast or if you just need refreshers as you continue on their path to wokeness.  These will work in conjunction with our newsletter (that you should sign up for!) and our Facebook page to continue the discussion as always.  Our book club will also be reviewing two books a month so there is plenty of opportunity to learn and interact with us. Until then enjoy these episodes...ok byeeeeeee!FoundationalEpisode 68 - The Basics: justice, equity, diversity &amp; inclusion: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion Episode 25 - Can White folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled):https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25 Episode 76 - Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-changeFrom Ally to AccompliceEpisode 19 - Lets Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-bullshit-from-ally-to-accompliceEpisode 70 - Wait WTF…I can be down and still not be woke?:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-wokeEpisode 29 - When Glennon Doyle’s Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29 WhitenessEpisode  37 - The Basics of White Centering:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37 Episode  41 - Whitesplaining and Webster…A look at language:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41 Episode 10 - Don’t Be A BBQ Becky:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky SafetyEpisode 64 - Safe Space, a journey: the what, how &amp; how not!:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not Episode 46 - Do White Folks Deserve Safe Spaces?:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46 Episode 60 - Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

This is our last episode of the season! Trudi and Weeze will be back in September with all new podcast episodes but in the meantime they have set up a curriculum to go back and listen to some of the most influential episodes so far. These are for you whether you are a newcomer to the podcast or if you just need refreshers as you continue on their path to wokeness. These will work in conjunction with our newsletter (that you should sign up for!) and our Facebook page to continue the discussion as always. Our book club will also be reviewing two books a month so there is plenty of opportunity to learn and interact with us. Until then enjoy these episodes...ok byeeeeeee! Foundational Episode 68 - The Basics: justice, equity, diversity &amp; inclusion: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion</a> Episode 25 - Can White folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled): <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25</a> Episode 76 - Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-change" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-change</a> From Ally to Accomplice Episode 19 - Lets Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-bullshit-from-ally-to-accomplice" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-bullshit-from-ally-to-accomplice</a> Episode 70 - Wait WTF…I can be down and still not be woke?: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-woke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-woke</a> Episode 29 - When Glennon Doyle’s Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29</a> Whiteness Episode 37 - The Basics of White Centering: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37</a> Episode 41 - Whitesplaining and Webster…A look at language: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41</a> Episode 10 - Don’t Be A BBQ Becky: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky</a> Safety Episode 64 - Safe Space, a journey: the what, how &amp; how not!: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not</a> Episode 46 - Do White Folks Deserve Safe Spaces?: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46</a> Episode 60 - Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing</a> Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep.82: TNHTW 101: Summer Syllabus Final

Have you ever seen a “Karen?”  She’s the one who storms through the sliding doors with her apologetic husband in tow.  Her short “power” haircut, oversized sunglasses and bratty kids let everyone know her entitled ass is getting whatever she wants.  She yells and accuses everyone causing as much of a scene as possible, if provoked then she will unleash her final attack saying, “I want to speak to your manager!”  This is a “Karen”... she’s not a new phenomenon but she can now be identified properly with the rise of social media.  In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze break down what being a Karen is and how whiteness plays a major role in being one.  Listen in as we explore potential outcomes and how you can help combat all the Karening going on.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Have you ever seen a “Karen?” She’s the one who storms through the sliding doors with her apologetic husband in tow. Her short “power” haircut, oversized sunglasses and bratty kids let everyone know her entitled ass is getting whatever she wants. She yells and accuses everyone causing as much of a scene as possible, if provoked then she will unleash her final attack saying, “I want to speak to your manager!” This is a “Karen”... she’s not a new phenomenon but she can now be identified properly with the rise of social media. In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze break down what being a Karen is and how whiteness plays a major role in being one. Listen in as we explore potential outcomes and how you can help combat all the Karening going on. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 81: Who is Karen & why does she want to talk to the manager?

Tony Robbins

In this episode, Trudi and Weeze do a deep dive into the issue of the release of Tony Robbins repeated use of the N-word during an event 20+ years ago. We look a few issues with the video including the use of the n-word as a "therapeutic" coaching tactic,  cultural competency of coaching, and why this even matters all these years later. You can see the Medium article referenced in the show here: https://medium.com/p/tony-robbins-cognitive-dissonance-751095390cd?source=email-ff1181a0412a--writer.postDistributed&amp;sk=1a58db9836d04ed88ad621f5f04f9271Join us in the Facebook Group to continue the conversation here:https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks

In this episode, Trudi and Weeze do a deep dive into the issue of the release of Tony Robbins repeated use of the N-word during an event 20+ years ago. We look a few issues with the video including the use of the n-word as a "therapeutic" coaching tactic, cultural competency of coaching, and why this even matters all these years later. You can see the Medium article referenced in the show here: <a href="https://medium.com/p/tony-robbins-cognitive-dissonance-751095390cd?source=email-ff1181a0412a--writer.postDistributed&amp;sk=1a58db9836d04ed88ad621f5f04f9271" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://medium.com/p/tony-robbins-cognitive-dissonance-751095390cd?source=email-ff1181a0412a--writer.postDistributed&amp;sk=1a58db9836d04ed88ad621f5f04f9271</a> Join us in the Facebook Group to continue the conversation here:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks</a>

Ep48: Tony Robbins and Culturally (in)Competent Coaching

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss BBQ Becky's, who they are, what role they play in the world, how to deal with them, and most importantly HOW TO NOT BE ONE. We also cover how BBQ Becky's show up in the coaching and personal development world. Remember to check us out on Patreon at www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss BBQ Becky's, who they are, what role they play in the world, how to deal with them, and most importantly HOW TO NOT BE ONE. We also cover how BBQ Becky's show up in the coaching and personal development world. Remember to check us out on Patreon at <a href="http://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a>

Ep 10: Don't Be A BBQ Becky!

In this episode, we talk about the journey from Ally to Accomplice. We define performative allyship, and why its a problem, and explore the pathway that someone must travel in order to be in full partnership and support of people of color. Also... our TNHTW's Facebook group is live and open to the public. Here's the link... join us! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853/

In this episode, we talk about the journey from Ally to Accomplice. We define performative allyship, and why its a problem, and explore the pathway that someone must travel in order to be in full partnership and support of people of color. Also... our TNHTW's Facebook group is live and open to the public. Here's the link... join us! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853/</a>

Ep 19: Let's Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice

Privileged during the pandemic? It may not always feel that way, but many of us are in one way or another. What are you doing with it, though? In today’s episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze are diving into what privilege IS, what it ISN’T, what choices you have during this time, and how you can use this time to rise while making sure others rise with you.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Privileged during the pandemic? It may not always feel that way, but many of us are in one way or another. What are you doing with it, though? In today’s episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze are diving into what privilege IS, what it ISN’T, what choices you have during this time, and how you can use this time to rise while making sure others rise with you. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 80: Privilege and Pandemics

Justing Livingston

In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze welcome Justin Livingston who shares about his own journey as a white man to understanding race, diversity, equity, and how it shows up (or doesn't) in the coaching and transformational development industry, and what he sees as his role is the work. You can continue the conversation with us in the FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworksYou can also find our FREE masterclass at: www.nothowthatworks.com/freemasterclass

In this episode, Trudi &amp; Weeze welcome Justin Livingston who shares about his own journey as a white man to understanding race, diversity, equity, and how it shows up (or doesn't) in the coaching and transformational development industry, and what he sees as his role is the work. You can continue the conversation with us in the FB Group: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks</a> You can also find our FREE masterclass at: <a href="http://www.nothowthatworks.com/freemasterclass" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nothowthatworks.com/freemasterclass</a>

Ep 51: Justing Livingston is Working Towards Woke

In today's episode, Trudi and Weeze talk about "The Work". We discuss what it means, the phases of the work, why it's important for all people to explore their own identity, privilege and power (yes... including people of color). We also talk about the problem with the word Tribe, and how much we wish folks would stop using it.

Ep 12: All Work... No Tribe

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi talk about whitesplaining and Webster (as in Webster's dictionary). We explain what whitesplaining is, how to recognize it and ask that folks stop doing it. We also explore the epidemic of people using Webster's dictionary to understand complex, nuanced, social problems we are facing.Remember to join us in the Facebook group to continue the discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi talk about whitesplaining and Webster (as in Webster's dictionary). We explain what whitesplaining is, how to recognize it and ask that folks stop doing it. We also explore the epidemic of people using Webster's dictionary to understand complex, nuanced, social problems we are facing. Remember to join us in the Facebook group to continue the discussion: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853</a>

Ep 41: Whitesplaining and Webster... A look at language

On today's spicy episode Trudi and Weeze are exploring education and action.  In creating equitable change both are needed, but sometimes people can confuse the two. This distinction is the core of today’s episode.  How does this show up in a professional setting?  How do you identify where you are on the spectrum of education vs action? How do you properly support others if you are unable to be in a leadership role? How do you get educated and how do you get actionable? We’re exploring all of this and more in today's discussion.  So relax...but also buckle up boo, ‘cause this episode is fire....Oh, and Joaquin Phoenix…. check it it!Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

On today's spicy episode Trudi and Weeze are exploring education and action. In creating equitable change both are needed, but sometimes people can confuse the two. This distinction is the core of today’s episode. How does this show up in a professional setting? How do you identify where you are on the spectrum of education vs action? How do you properly support others if you are unable to be in a leadership role? How do you get educated and how do you get actionable? We’re exploring all of this and more in today's discussion. So relax...but also buckle up boo, ‘cause this episode is fire....Oh, and Joaquin Phoenix…. check it it! Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 76: Education vs. Action:  Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change

We have a special announcement... well, a few actually. In this episode, we announce our plans for a podcast upgrade, some new projects we're working on and how YOU can be involved. Join the relaunch team at: www.nothowthatworks.com/relaunch

We have a special announcement... well, a few actually. In this episode, we announce our plans for a podcast upgrade, some new projects we're working on and how YOU can be involved. Join the relaunch team at: <a href="http://www.nothowthatworks.com/relaunch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nothowthatworks.com/relaunch</a>

Ep 54: The End of the Beginning for TNHTW

Chelsea Handler

This bonus episode is TOTALLY Off the Cuff, and Uncut because we should be focused on our relaunch and are supposed to be on hiatus. However, we've been asked for a formal response to the Chelsea Handler Netflix Special, "Hello, Privilege, it's me, Chelsea" and we have a LOT to say.

Ep 55: BONUS EPISODE - Chelsea Handler's Trauma Porn Netflix Special

In this episode, Trudi and Weeze explore the crisis at the border and the policies that have allowed thousands of children to be taken from their families. As coaches, what is our obligation to be having these discussions both publically, and in our private communities? What if our niche has nothing to do with this "stuff"?

Ep 11: If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck... Its a Concentration Camp

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss what it means when someone says Check Your Privilege. We explore the different types of privilege people hold, what it means to check that privilege, and how it triggers some people when they hear it. We further address some manifestations of white privilege and give some examples of how to use privilege to create equity for marginalized communities (which is really the whole point of our work).

Ep17: Don't Check My Privilege

Hey y’all! We’re back and it feels so good! Have you heard people calling themselves “equity informed” or “justice informed?” On today’s episode Trudi &amp; Weeze are gonna give it to ya straight about what those terms ACTUALLY mean, the questions you need to know to figure out if you or a coach you want to work with is truly helpful and not harmful, and some special news and events for y’all!Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks Visit the site: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Hey y’all! We’re back and it feels so good! Have you heard people calling themselves “equity informed” or “justice informed?” On today’s episode Trudi &amp; Weeze are gonna give it to ya straight about what those terms ACTUALLY mean, the questions you need to know to figure out if you or a coach you want to work with is truly helpful and not harmful, and some special news and events for y’all! Support us on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks</a> Visit the site: <a href="https://www.nothowthatworks.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nothowthatworks.com/</a> Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 79: Your Woke Urban Dictionary

Today Trudi &amp; Weeze are doing a year end review. We explore the lessons we learned in 2019 as well as our words and themes of the year and big scary goals for 2020.Network &amp; Spill episode: http://networkandspill.com/2019/09/strangerdanger-w-liberation-coach-louiza-weeze-doran/Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Today Trudi &amp; Weeze are doing a year end review. We explore the lessons we learned in 2019 as well as our words and themes of the year and big scary goals for 2020. Network &amp; Spill episode: <a href="http://networkandspill.com/2019/09/strangerdanger-w-liberation-coach-louiza-weeze-doran/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://networkandspill.com/2019/09/strangerdanger-w-liberation-coach-louiza-weeze-doran/</a> Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/</a> Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins <a href="https://www.aganee.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aganee.com</a> <a href="https://instagram.com/therealaganee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://instagram.com/therealaganee</a>

Ep. 67: 20/20 - That's Clear Vision

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss internships, modern advice on how to score dream jobs and how that intersects with economic and work equity. Let's do better y'all. Join the conversation on FB at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss internships, modern advice on how to score dream jobs and how that intersects with economic and work equity. Let's do better y'all. Join the conversation on FB at: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks</a>

Ep47: Interns, Getting that Dream Job, and Equitable Work

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