Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue discussing the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points:    The case for accountability groups    Paul Kelly's 5 column plan    Practicing honesty is part of recovery. Ministry leaders must lead the way.    Our hope for the Church to be gracious to those who truly want to heal.   We had no one to coach us through our emotions, and this created consequences in adulthood.   We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you! Special thanks to Paul Kelly for teaching me the 5 Column Plan http://www.paulkellycounseling.com  Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com  Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827  Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim  Other podcasts:  SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]  New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue discussing the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li> The case for accountability groups  </li> <li> Paul Kelly's 5 column plan  </li> <li> Practicing honesty is part of recovery. Ministry leaders must lead the way.  </li> <li> Our hope for the Church to be gracious to those who truly want to heal. </li> <li> We had no one to coach us through our emotions, and this created consequences in adulthood. </li> </ul> We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you! Special thanks to Paul Kelly for teaching me the 5 Column Plan <a href="http://www.paulkellycounseling.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.paulkellycounseling.com</a> Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.16 Mental Health: Sexual Addiction (Part 3)

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue discussing the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points:   How many pastors do we think have a sexual addiction?  How do pastors preach so well and lead so well, yet have this huge secret life? Are there yellow flags in "spotting" a sexual addict in ministry leadership? If people are getting saved and ministry is thriving because of a pastor's leadership, is their sexual addiction the necessary blood payment since it's their outlet for stress? What should we be asking God to do in this worldwide situation?    We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!  Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com  Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827  Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim  Other podcasts:  SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]  New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue discussing the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>How many pastors do we think have a sexual addiction? </li> <li>How do pastors preach so well and lead so well, yet have this huge secret life?</li> <li>Are there yellow flags in "spotting" a sexual addict in ministry leadership?</li> <li>If people are getting saved and ministry is thriving because of a pastor's leadership, is their sexual addiction the necessary blood payment since it's their outlet for stress?</li> <li>What should we be asking God to do in this worldwide situation?</li> </ul> We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you! Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.15 Mental Health: Sexual Addiction (Part 2)

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim dive into part one of the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points:  Confessing porn viewing, masturbation, and other sexual behaviors can feel as difficult as confessing murder. There are very few church onramps for talking about sexual addiction. What enabled Wilson and Roy to talk more openly about it? Is masturbation really that bad? What's a better way to phrase this question? How many in the church engage in compulsive sexual behavior? What are some ways to address sexual addiction in the church? Stages of Faith (http://www.janethagberg.com/critical-journey-book.html) Self Guided Sobriety Group 90 Day Challenge (https://www.newlegacycounseling.com/self-guided-sobriety-group/)    We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com  Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]  Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]  Music by Nathan Baldwin   Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim   Other podcasts:  SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927] New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim dive into part one of the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>Confessing porn viewing, masturbation, and other sexual behaviors can feel as difficult as confessing murder.</li> <li>There are very few church onramps for talking about sexual addiction.</li> <li>What enabled Wilson and Roy to talk more openly about it?</li> <li>Is masturbation really that bad? What's a better way to phrase this question?</li> <li>How many in the church engage in compulsive sexual behavior?</li> <li>What are some ways to address sexual addiction in the church?</li> <li>Stages of Faith (<a href="http://www.janethagberg.com/critical-journey-book.html)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.janethagberg.com/critical-journey-book.html)</a></li> <li>Self Guided Sobriety Group 90 Day Challenge (<a href="https://www.newlegacycounseling.com/self-guided-sobriety-group/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.newlegacycounseling.com/self-guided-sobriety-group/</a>)</li> </ul> We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you! Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.14 Mental Health: Sexual Addiction (Part 1)

Wilson and Roy start a new series on Mental Health. We first address Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder. We hope our conversation helps raise awareness and compassion for adults and kids who struggle to focus, to stay still, and who are unfairly labeled as lazy or dumb. We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]   Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]   Music by Nathan Baldwin   Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim   Other podcasts:   SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]   New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson and Roy start a new series on Mental Health. We first address Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder. We hope our conversation helps raise awareness and compassion for adults and kids who struggle to focus, to stay still, and who are unfairly labeled as lazy or dumb. We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you! Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.13 Mental Health: ADHD

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about underrated qualities in a partner. Some of our talking points:  We say we want to marry a Christian, but what does that really mean? Does your partner know how to negotiate well? Do you know how to negotiate well? Does it feel like you both have an equal voice? When beauty and accomplishments don't matter anymore, will you want to spend decades on end with this person?    As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]  Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]  Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927] New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about underrated qualities in a partner. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>We say we want to marry a Christian, but what does that really mean?</li> <li>Does your partner know how to negotiate well? Do you know how to negotiate well? Does it feel like you both have an equal voice?</li> <li>When beauty and accomplishments don't matter anymore, will you want to spend decades on end with this person?</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.12 Relationships: Underrated Qualities in a Partner

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about overrated qualities in a partner. Some of our talking points:  Addiction to the feeling of falling in love, or "limerence" Beauty, muscles, and charisma (Single's Inferno, anyone?) Wealth, status, and high ambition Opposites attract "Good" Christians dating "bad" people Questions to ask yourself to test if a certain quality is overrated  As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com  Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG  Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]  Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]  Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827 Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim  Other podcasts:  SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]  New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about overrated qualities in a partner. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>Addiction to the feeling of falling in love, or "limerence"</li> <li>Beauty, muscles, and charisma (Single's Inferno, anyone?)</li> <li>Wealth, status, and high ambition</li> <li>Opposites attract</li> <li>"Good" Christians dating "bad" people</li> <li>Questions to ask yourself to test if a certain quality is overrated</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.11 Relationships: Overrated Qualities in a Partner

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about the wild west of online dating. Some of our talking points:  Our reasons for trying online dating Memorable online dating stories Pros and cons of online dating Why introverts often prefer online dating Online chemistry can be very different from in person chemistry Online dating tips Roy got catfished  As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.  Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com  Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG  Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]  Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]  Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim  Other podcasts:  SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]  New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about the wild west of online dating. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>Our reasons for trying online dating</li> <li>Memorable online dating stories</li> <li>Pros and cons of online dating</li> <li>Why introverts often prefer online dating</li> <li>Online chemistry can be very different from in person chemistry</li> <li>Online dating tips</li> <li>Roy got catfished</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.10 Relationships: The Wild West of Online Dating

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about different approaches to dating. Some of our talking points:  "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris messed us up! You learn a lot about yourself when you're in a dating relationship The Chicken approach to dating vs The Eagle approach Do you have an off-ramp in your dating relationship? A successful relationship does not always end in marriage Sex has a way of masking true intimacy and character flaws Being desperate is not good for your evaluation skills We are complete as single people What do we look for when we are dating someone? Go to more Larping events    As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin   Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927] New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]   Mentioned in today's episode: "How to Get a Date Worth Keeping" by Henry Cloud https://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Date-Worth-Keeping/dp/0310262658

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about different approaches to dating. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>"I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris messed us up!</li> <li>You learn a lot about yourself when you're in a dating relationship</li> <li>The Chicken approach to dating vs The Eagle approach</li> <li>Do you have an off-ramp in your dating relationship?</li> <li>A successful relationship does not always end in marriage</li> <li>Sex has a way of masking true intimacy and character flaws</li> <li>Being desperate is not good for your evaluation skills</li> <li>We are complete as single people</li> <li>What do we look for when we are dating someone?</li> <li>Go to more Larping events</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>] Mentioned in today's episode: "How to Get a Date Worth Keeping" by Henry Cloud <a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Date-Worth-Keeping/dp/0310262658" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Date-Worth-Keeping/dp/0310262658</a>

2.9 Relationships: Approaches to Dating

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about same gender friendships from a straight perspective. Some of our talking points:    Why are so many male friendships so superficial? The difficulty for men to be emotionally intelligent in marriage with limited emotional practice as a single What happens when we are not asked to be a bridesmaid? Does everyone have a bestie? Should everyone have a bestie?  Ways we feel prioritized in a friendship Things we look for in a friendship Friendship doom stories    As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin   Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827   Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927] New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about same gender friendships from a straight perspective. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>Why are so many male friendships so superficial?</li> <li>The difficulty for men to be emotionally intelligent in marriage with limited emotional practice as a single</li> <li>What happens when we are not asked to be a bridesmaid?</li> <li>Does everyone have a bestie? Should everyone have a bestie? </li> <li>Ways we feel prioritized in a friendship</li> <li>Things we look for in a friendship</li> <li>Friendship doom stories</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>] New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.8 Relationships: Same Gender Friendships

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing our series on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about toxic friendships.   Some of our talking points:  Being lonely can make us make poor relationship choices Narcissism, Codependency, and Insecure Attachment Is there something about us that makes us stay in toxic friendships? Are Christians called to be close with everyone out of agape love? Asian collective and loyal culture makes it extra challenging to navigate toxic friendships Empathy and differentiation Concrete ideas about dealing with toxic friendships Jesus' modeling of Tiers of Friendship Resources for us to get better at navigating friendships   As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com     Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: www.restingsheep.com     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts:   SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]   New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing our series on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about toxic friendships.   Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>Being lonely can make us make poor relationship choices</li> <li>Narcissism, Codependency, and Insecure Attachment</li> <li>Is there something about us that makes us stay in toxic friendships?</li> <li>Are Christians called to be close with everyone out of agape love?</li> <li>Asian collective and loyal culture makes it extra challenging to navigate toxic friendships</li> <li>Empathy and differentiation</li> <li>Concrete ideas about dealing with toxic friendships</li> <li>Jesus' modeling of Tiers of Friendship</li> <li>Resources for us to get better at navigating friendships</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>     Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: <a href="http://www.restingsheep.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.restingsheep.com</a>     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts:   SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>]   New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.7 Relationships: Toxic Friendships

A podcast that aims to help you feel there are others in the same boat as you. Roy Kim, an ordained pastor and licensed marriage and family therapist (MFT license# 82450), will interview a variety of Christians who handled difficult circumstances imperfectly, and experienced the amazing grace of God. He will also share reflections about the intersection of psychology and Christianity.

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about co-ed friendships from a straight perspective. This conversation was motivated by the controversy of Pastor Matt Chandler stepping down because of his communication with a female friend.   Some of our talking points:  What do co-ed friendships provide that same gender friendships do not? What kinds of co-ed friendships are healthy when married, and what kinds are not? Are there unique rules for pastors and co-ed relationships because of the power and trust dynamic? Wilson and Hiroko's story of rich co-ed friendship Roy's story of betrayal due to co-ed friendship Co-ed friendship and sexual addiction    As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com       Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: www.restingsheep.com     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]   New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about co-ed friendships from a straight perspective. This conversation was motivated by the controversy of Pastor Matt Chandler stepping down because of his communication with a female friend.   Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>What do co-ed friendships provide that same gender friendships do not?</li> <li>What kinds of co-ed friendships are healthy when married, and what kinds are not?</li> <li>Are there unique rules for pastors and co-ed relationships because of the power and trust dynamic?</li> <li>Wilson and Hiroko's story of rich co-ed friendship</li> <li>Roy's story of betrayal due to co-ed friendship</li> <li>Co-ed friendship and sexual addiction</li> </ul>   As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>       Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: <a href="http://www.restingsheep.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.restingsheep.com</a>     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927</a>]   New Therapist FAQ [<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839</a>]

2.6 Relationships: Co-Ed Friendships

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang dive into a new series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about how lonely it can feel when we don't have significant relationships, whether they be romantic relationships or friendships.   Some of our talking points:  We get why people talk to toys or imaginary friends. Being extremely popular and extremely lonely at the same time. The loneliness of pastoring. Escaping from loneliness through games and porn. What happens if all your friends are married/dating or don't have time for you? The heartache of being an older single and there's no natural "group" for you at church. What if your hobbies don’t align with the majority of your church people? What are strategies to make friends as adults? Do married people do things that are off-putting to singles? Dating and marriage does not cure loneliness.    As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com View the YouTube version: https://youtu.be/8F8DBX4Oh58 Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827 Roy Kim @thisisroykim

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang dive into a new series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about how lonely it can feel when we don't have significant relationships, whether they be romantic relationships or friendships. Some of our talking points: <ul> <li>We get why people talk to toys or imaginary friends.</li> <li>Being extremely popular and extremely lonely at the same time.</li> <li>The loneliness of pastoring.</li> <li>Escaping from loneliness through games and porn.</li> <li>What happens if all your friends are married/dating or don't have time for you?</li> <li>The heartache of being an older single and there's no natural "group" for you at church.</li> <li>What if your hobbies don’t align with the majority of your church people?</li> <li>What are strategies to make friends as adults?</li> <li>Do married people do things that are off-putting to singles?</li> <li>Dating and marriage does not cure loneliness.</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> View the YouTube version: <a href="https://youtu.be/8F8DBX4Oh58" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/8F8DBX4Oh58</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a> Roy Kim @thisisroykim

2.5 Relationships: Loneliness of Singles

Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church for various reasons, and one of the consequences is strong homesickness. Wilson Wang and Roy Kim share some of their reflections about missing the immigrant church, despite all its flaws.   Some of their talking points include:  Nostalgic and familiar Asian family dynamics at church The centrality of eating together at church Getting scolded at the immigrant church is normal, but getting scolded at a White church is grounds for a fist fight Pastoral visitations are so inefficient, but can feel so good! Obedience to a pastor who knows you vs obedience to a pastor on a screen; and more.  Plus, we answer listener questions such as: Is there a way to explain to people why you are leaving church, but without slandering?   As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/z9-r2N6a09U   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church for various reasons, and one of the consequences is strong homesickness. Wilson Wang and Roy Kim share some of their reflections about missing the immigrant church, despite all its flaws. Some of their talking points include: <ul> <li>Nostalgic and familiar Asian family dynamics at church</li> <li>The centrality of eating together at church</li> <li>Getting scolded at the immigrant church is normal, but getting scolded at a White church is grounds for a fist fight</li> <li>Pastoral visitations are so inefficient, but can feel so good!</li> <li>Obedience to a pastor who knows you vs obedience to a pastor on a screen; and more.</li> </ul> Plus, we answer listener questions such as: Is there a way to explain to people why you are leaving church, but without slandering? As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. YouTube version of this episode: <a href="https://youtu.be/z9-r2N6a09U" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/z9-r2N6a09U</a> Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>

2.4 Silent Exodus: Missing Home

One of the reasons why Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church is because of their experiences of spiritual abuse. Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their thoughts, experiences, and questions about spiritual abuse in the immigrant church. Some of their talking points include:  Getting fired in the immigrant church Boundary-less family style church life Parallels with domestic abuse Korean churches resembling military hierarchy Trying to remember an immigrant pastor giving a genuine apology Good and Bad ways to trust a pastor, and more.  As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com YouTube version: https://youtu.be/vuZWq-Nm7vg   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

One of the reasons why Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church is because of their experiences of spiritual abuse. Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their thoughts, experiences, and questions about spiritual abuse in the immigrant church. Some of their talking points include: <ul> <li>Getting fired in the immigrant church</li> <li>Boundary-less family style church life</li> <li>Parallels with domestic abuse</li> <li>Korean churches resembling military hierarchy</li> <li>Trying to remember an immigrant pastor giving a genuine apology</li> <li>Good and Bad ways to trust a pastor, and more.</li> </ul> As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> YouTube version: <a href="https://youtu.be/vuZWq-Nm7vg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/vuZWq-Nm7vg</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>). You can listen to his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>

2.3 Silent Exodus: Spiritual Abuse

A common experience for people in English speaking ministries (EM's) is feeling like they have no voice. They feel an innate pressure to comply with the immigrant church leadership, with little room for discussion.   What does it do to a person's psyche when you feel like your voice doesn't count, not just in a church context, but in any context for that matter?   Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences of having no voice, as well as their thoughts of the implications.   Some of their talking points include: invasion of privacy; protecting the pulpit from false doctrine; Korean Morning Prayer; when is it time to leave? is it grace to allow a congregation to collapse? and more.   As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.   You can watch the discussion here: https://youtu.be/xMhDuCDEKjo Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com) You can listen to some of his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

A common experience for people in English speaking ministries (EM's) is feeling like they have no voice. They feel an innate pressure to comply with the immigrant church leadership, with little room for discussion. What does it do to a person's psyche when you feel like your voice doesn't count, not just in a church context, but in any context for that matter? Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences of having no voice, as well as their thoughts of the implications. Some of their talking points include: invasion of privacy; protecting the pulpit from false doctrine; Korean Morning Prayer; when is it time to leave? is it grace to allow a congregation to collapse? and more. As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. You can watch the discussion here: <a href="https://youtu.be/xMhDuCDEKjo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/xMhDuCDEKjo</a> Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>) You can listen to some of his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>

2.2 Silent Exodus: No Voice

English speaking ministries (EM's) and immigrant churches have had trouble finding ways to thrive together for various reasons. Many of these EM's have left the 1st generation churches, a trend that Helen Lee coined a "silent exodus."   Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences. They discuss mixed feelings such as "It's so nice to belong here with a village of aunties and uncles" as well as "How do we belong where there's so much condescension and heresy?" As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. You can also watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/zHOemzExImc   Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com   Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com) You can listen to some of his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

English speaking ministries (EM's) and immigrant churches have had trouble finding ways to thrive together for various reasons. Many of these EM's have left the 1st generation churches, a trend that Helen Lee coined a "silent exodus." Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences. They discuss mixed feelings such as "It's so nice to belong here with a village of aunties and uncles" as well as "How do we belong where there's so much condescension and heresy?" As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you. You can also watch our conversation here: <a href="https://youtu.be/zHOemzExImc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/zHOemzExImc</a> Drop us a line: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a> Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (<a href="http://www.renewchurchoc.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.renewchurchoc.com</a>) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (<a href="http://www.calledtobeproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.calledtobeproject.com</a>) You can listen to some of his sermons here: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827</a>

2.1 Silent Exodus

A story about my wife, my stepdaughter, and the Lord God who wove us together. This episode bookends a beautiful season of stories and conversations about life behind the curtain. The things we don't post about. The things that drive us to isolation. The things that make us say "Thank God you said that" because we didn't want to say it first. My deep heartfelt thanks to all those who have supported this podcast in various ways. It really is an honor to be in the same boat as you. I hope you will continue to show your support as the same boat sets sail in season two ⛵️ ** Make sure to listen to the very end. You never know, there might be some jokes told by a 10 1/2 year old ...   Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: www.newlegacycounseling.com Follow Jenn on Instagram @homeneathome_IG   Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

A story about my wife, my stepdaughter, and the Lord God who wove us together. This episode bookends a beautiful season of stories and conversations about life behind the curtain. The things we don't post about. The things that drive us to isolation. The things that make us say "Thank God you said that" because we didn't want to say it first. My deep heartfelt thanks to all those who have supported this podcast in various ways. It really is an honor to be in the same boat as you. I hope you will continue to show your support as the same boat sets sail in season two ⛵️ ** Make sure to listen to the very end. You never know, there might be some jokes told by a 10 1/2 year old ... Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: <a href="http://www.newlegacycounseling.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newlegacycounseling.com</a> Follow Jenn on Instagram @homeneathome_IG Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.26 Beauty From Ashes

Go to a good school. Get a good job. Make good money. Marry a good person. Sounds simple enough, right? Sure except for the ones who aren't smart enough, not skilled or disciplined enough, not savvy enough, not attractive enough. Not good enough. I invite you to listen to Rodrigo Castro's journey into the heart of darkness, where he realized not only was he not good enough for the goals of society, but he also wasn't good enough to make atonement for his sins.  Thankfully, just as God showed He can use a talking donkey to do His will, He can also use an LSD trip to reveal His majesty and grace. Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: www.newlegacycounseling.com Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Go to a good school. Get a good job. Make good money. Marry a good person. Sounds simple enough, right? Sure except for the ones who aren't smart enough, not skilled or disciplined enough, not savvy enough, not attractive enough. Not good enough. I invite you to listen to Rodrigo Castro's journey into the heart of darkness, where he realized not only was he not good enough for the goals of society, but he also wasn't good enough to make atonement for his sins.  Thankfully, just as God showed He can use a talking donkey to do His will, He can also use an LSD trip to reveal His majesty and grace. Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: <a href="http://www.newlegacycounseling.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newlegacycounseling.com</a> Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.25 Purple Mountain Majesties

What do you do when your church boss is ok with false teaching? What do you do when there is someone influential in your church who pretty much resembles a cult leader? What do you do if you have to decide between ministry and spouse? Listen in as I speak with "Bob" about this predicament. This story is both awful and awesome. (Bob's voice has been digitally altered to protect his identity). Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: www.newlegacycounseling.com Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

What do you do when your church boss is ok with false teaching? What do you do when there is someone influential in your church who pretty much resembles a cult leader? What do you do if you have to decide between ministry and spouse? Listen in as I speak with "Bob" about this predicament. This story is both awful and awesome. (Bob's voice has been digitally altered to protect his identity). Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: <a href="http://www.newlegacycounseling.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newlegacycounseling.com</a> Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.24 Cult Classic

Hatty Lee rejoins me to continue our discussion about growing up as parentified children. In this episode we cover topics such as:  The importance of intentionally creating space for ourselves to identify and express our emotions The fear of losing our identity or role as a caregiver Is there only one way to honor our parents? Avoiding being a "burden" to others Can we prevent our own kids from being parentified children? What can family therapy look like with our parents? Is it helpful to "retire" our parents?  Follow Hatty on Instagram @hattyjlee, and visit her website www.oakandstonetherapy.com Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: www.newlegacycounseling.com Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Hatty Lee rejoins me to continue our discussion about growing up as parentified children. In this episode we cover topics such as: <ul> <li>The importance of intentionally creating space for ourselves to identify and express our emotions</li> <li>The fear of losing our identity or role as a caregiver</li> <li>Is there only one way to honor our parents?</li> <li>Avoiding being a "burden" to others</li> <li>Can we prevent our own kids from being parentified children?</li> <li>What can family therapy look like with our parents?</li> <li>Is it helpful to "retire" our parents?</li> </ul> Follow Hatty on Instagram @hattyjlee, and visit her website <a href="http://www.oakandstonetherapy.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.oakandstonetherapy.com</a> Follow Roy on Instagram @thisisroykim or visit his website: <a href="http://www.newlegacycounseling.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newlegacycounseling.com</a> Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.23 Surrogate Spouse, Surrogate Savior (Part 2)

thx Roy! i look forward to more episodes. you are doing great work

thx roy

Truth, grace, and empathy. Good for the soul!

Great podcast!!

The Same Boat

Daniel and Sora tell their incredibly raw story about miscarriage, responses they hate, faith and atheism. Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Daniel and Sora tell their incredibly raw story about miscarriage, responses they hate, faith and atheism. Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.13 This is Us

Danny Roh gives us a rare look inside the mind and heart of a youth pastor who got fired. We talk about bitterness, shame, how he said goodbye to his students, unemployment, the difficulty of forgiveness, and the dangers of making pastoring become your identity. Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Danny Roh gives us a rare look inside the mind and heart of a youth pastor who got fired. We talk about bitterness, shame, how he said goodbye to his students, unemployment, the difficulty of forgiveness, and the dangers of making pastoring become your identity. Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.14 Refiner's Firing

Jim Lee shares about the lessons he learned from his painful divorce, and the redeeming acts of God who blesses divorcees through Jim's ministry.  Please share feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. We appreciate you spreading the word about the podcast on social!

Jim Lee shares about the lessons he learned from his painful divorce, and the redeeming acts of God who blesses divorcees through Jim's ministry.  Please share feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. We appreciate you spreading the word about the podcast on social!

1.10 How to Save $100,000

Licensed MFTs Catherine Morrill (www.soulrestorationproject.org/catherine-morrill) and Susette Magana (www.susettemagana.com) and I discuss the relationship book "How We Love" by Milan and Kay Yerkovich. Chances are that you can relate to at least one of these statements: Why do people get so emotional, why can't they just move on? My spouse has communication issues. Sometimes I tell white lies to avoid conflict. I have trouble saying no. When people apologize to me, it's often too little too late. I want to feel deep connection, I want to be pursued. I stay in destructive relationships. I lose my temper but they made me. If so, then you'll want to listen in! And you definitely don't have to be married to benefit from the book and the discussion. Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Licensed MFTs Catherine Morrill (<a href="http://www.soulrestorationproject.org/catherine-morrill" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soulrestorationproject.org/catherine-morrill</a>) and Susette Magana (<a href="http://www.susettemagana.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.susettemagana.com</a>) and I discuss the relationship book "How We Love" by Milan and Kay Yerkovich. Chances are that you can relate to at least one of these statements: Why do people get so emotional, why can't they just move on? My spouse has communication issues. Sometimes I tell white lies to avoid conflict. I have trouble saying no. When people apologize to me, it's often too little too late. I want to feel deep connection, I want to be pursued. I stay in destructive relationships. I lose my temper but they made me. If so, then you'll want to listen in! And you definitely don't have to be married to benefit from the book and the discussion. Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.16 How We Love Part 1

Michelle Park shares about her epic journey with chronic pain. Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Michelle Park shares about her epic journey with chronic pain. Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.12 Wrist in Peace

Janet Chong and Sarah Chong share about the joys and pains of the artist pathway.  Please share feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. We appreciate you spreading the word about the podcast on social!

Janet Chong and Sarah Chong share about the joys and pains of the artist pathway.  Please share feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. We appreciate you spreading the word about the podcast on social!

1.11 How Great Thou Art

Something very bizarre and scary happened to Aly Lee, a student at University of Virginia. Tune in to hear what happened. Discover that you're not alone as we talk about:  The agony of not having answers Worst case scenarios Choosing between praying for good outcomes and embracing suffering Why certain people mean well, but just aren't helpful. And more!  Thank you all for your ongoing support of this podcast, your reviews, shares and emails are such an encouragement! If you'd like to read more of Alyson's writing, check out these links: http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/10/i-had-a-stroke  http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/11/six-mris-and-counting  http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/12/back-to-new-normalcy Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Something very bizarre and scary happened to Aly Lee, a student at University of Virginia. Tune in to hear what happened. Discover that you're not alone as we talk about: <ol> <li>The agony of not having answers</li> <li>Worst case scenarios</li> <li>Choosing between praying for good outcomes and embracing suffering</li> <li>Why certain people mean well, but just aren't helpful.</li> <li>And more!</li> </ol> Thank you all for your ongoing support of this podcast, your reviews, shares and emails are such an encouragement! If you'd like to read more of Alyson's writing, check out these links: <a href="http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/10/i-had-a-stroke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/10/i-had-a-stroke</a> <a href="http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/11/six-mris-and-counting" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/11/six-mris-and-counting</a> <a href="http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/12/back-to-new-normalcy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/12/back-to-new-normalcy</a> Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.18 Needles and Nails

Has anyone ever apologized to you, and it really didn't feel like an apology at all? Have you ever tried apologizing to someone, and it had little effect on the person? On today's episode, Christine Lister and I discuss effective ways to apologize, and how resolving conflict increases intimacy. Plus, there's an additional surprise guest interview you won't want to miss! Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Has anyone ever apologized to you, and it really didn't feel like an apology at all? Have you ever tried apologizing to someone, and it had little effect on the person? On today's episode, Christine Lister and I discuss effective ways to apologize, and how resolving conflict increases intimacy. Plus, there's an additional surprise guest interview you won't want to miss! Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.19 The Five Languages of Apology

Cheryl Kang Prout and Vivianne Kelly of Cordial Family Lawyers, LLP provide an intimate glimpse into the world of divorce mediation. Some of the questions we discuss:  Are all family lawyers the same? How does divorce affect kids? How is your conscience affected as a family law attorney? Is there a way to make divorce less painful or harmful? How can mediators be ministers?  I was blown away by how much I learned from my guests, and I hope you will be illuminated as well. Please share this episode with anyone you know who is considering divorce.  Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Cheryl Kang Prout and Vivianne Kelly of Cordial Family Lawyers, LLP provide an intimate glimpse into the world of divorce mediation. Some of the questions we discuss: <ul> <li>Are all family lawyers the same?</li> <li>How does divorce affect kids?</li> <li>How is your conscience affected as a family law attorney?</li> <li>Is there a way to make divorce less painful or harmful?</li> <li>How can mediators be ministers?</li> </ul> I was blown away by how much I learned from my guests, and I hope you will be illuminated as well. Please share this episode with anyone you know who is considering divorce.  Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.20 Blessed are the Peacemakers

Honor

Have you had an abortion? Whether you had an abortion long ago, or just recently, the shame and guilt can feel like it will never go away. Some women (and men) tell themselves they will take this secret to the grave. I interviewed one woman who was willing to share her abortion story. She found healing, love and forgiveness, and I hope that her story will lead you to experience the same. Would LOVE your feedback: thesameboatpod@gmail.com. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; www.patreon.com/thesameboat

Have you had an abortion? Whether you had an abortion long ago, or just recently, the shame and guilt can feel like it will never go away. Some women (and men) tell themselves they will take this secret to the grave. I interviewed one woman who was willing to share her abortion story. She found healing, love and forgiveness, and I hope that her story will lead you to experience the same. Would LOVE your feedback: <a href="mailto:thesameboatpod@gmail.com">thesameboatpod@gmail.com</a>. Please help support the podcast by sharing on social, reviewing on your podcast app, or becoming a patron &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.patreon.com/thesameboat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/thesameboat</a>

1.15 Honor Michael

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