In this episode, Lola interviews ordained priest and writer Shannon Kearns.Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com and his first book, In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture was published by Eerdmaan’s books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. His work with Brian G. Murphy at QueerTheology.com has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Lola interviews ordained priest and writer Shannon Kearns.<a href="https://www.shannontlkearns.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Shannon TL Kearns</a> is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of <a href="http://QueerTheology.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">QueerTheology.com</a> and his first book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Margins-Transgender-Mans-Journey-Scripture/dp/0802879489" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture</a> was published by Eerdmaan’s books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. His work with Brian G. Murphy at <a href="http://QueerTheology.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">QueerTheology.com</a> has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community.  <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwAotD-qZGePhBGLQ28x3A" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube</a> channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/387192032180500" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

In the Margins

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Wild Olive Podcast. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Gourmet Breakfast Blend!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can know when it's time to walk away from a toxic religious environment.The crew welcomes Instagrammer, YouTuber, and soon-to-be author, Laci Bean to the show to unpack her spiritual journey.You can follow Laci on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.Laci will be speaking at Awaken Nashville 2023. Register now before all the tickets are gone!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-olive/id1656980001" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Wild Olive Podcast</a>. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you by <a href="http://www.peacefulwarriorcoffeeco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company</a> where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Gourmet Breakfast Blend!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can know when it's time to walk away from a toxic religious environment.The crew welcomes Instagrammer, YouTuber, and soon-to-be author, Laci Bean to the show to unpack her spiritual journey.You can follow Laci on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Bean.Laci" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/laci__bean/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@laci_bean" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Laci_Bean" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.Laci will be speaking at <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/awaken-2023-tickets-554178963197" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Awaken Nashville 2023</a>. Register now before all the tickets are gone! <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwAotD-qZGePhBGLQ28x3A" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube</a> channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/387192032180500" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

When It's Time to Walk Away

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, Drugs and Jesus, by Joshua Lawson which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Tanzania!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can live more authentically as our true selves and some common obstacles to being who we really are.Jason interviews author Karen Shock. Karen is the author of the brand-new book, Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" which releases on April 18, 2023. You definitely do not want to miss this book! It's absolutely incredible! Be sure to be on the look-out for Karen's new podcast "Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" coming soon!You can follow Karen on Facebook and Instagram. Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3mH478C" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Drugs and Jesus</a>, by Joshua Lawson which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by <a href="http://www.peacefulwarriorcoffeeco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company</a> where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Tanzania!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can live more authentically as our true selves and some common obstacles to being who we really are.Jason interviews author Karen Shock. Karen is the author of the brand-new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3KISHsT" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud</a>" which releases on April 18, 2023. You definitely do not want to miss this book! It's absolutely incredible! Be sure to be on the look-out for Karen's new podcast "Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" coming soon!You can follow Karen on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/karen.h.shock" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/karenruthshock_author/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwAotD-qZGePhBGLQ28x3A" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube</a> channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/387192032180500" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Living More Authentically

In this introductory episode of his brand-new podcast, Jason Elam discusses the need for a wholesale re-evaluation of our parenting methods in light of spiritual deconstruction. You can purchase a copy of the book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, here.Please follow Parenting Deconstructed on Facebook and Instagram.Up next: Chapter One featuring Keith Giles, releasing Friday, April 7th, 2023.Please be sure to follow or subscribe to "Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast" on your podcasting app of choice. Thank you!This episode was brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where specialty grade, single-origin beans are perfectly roasted and shipped the same day giving you the freshest coffee available. Shipping is always free to U.S. addresses! Use code "Family" for 15% off your first order. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this introductory episode of his brand-new podcast, Jason Elam discusses the need for a wholesale re-evaluation of our parenting methods in light of spiritual deconstruction. You can purchase a copy of the book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, <a href="https://amzn.to/3U9iRcJ" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.Please follow <a href="http://www.parentingdeconstructed.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed</a> on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100087399636434" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/parentingdeconstructed/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.Up next: Chapter One featuring Keith Giles, releasing Friday, April 7th, 2023.Please be sure to follow or subscribe to "Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast" on your podcasting app of choice. Thank you!This episode was brought to you by <a href="http://www.peacefulwarriorcoffee.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company</a> where specialty grade, single-origin beans are perfectly roasted and shipped the same day giving you the freshest coffee available. Shipping is always free to U.S. addresses! Use code "Family" for 15% off your first order. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

PREVIEW: Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Story of Christianity Told As Good News for All by Ric Machuga which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free.In this episode, the crew talks about substance use disorder, harm reduction, and how people of faith can respond more compassionately. For insight on this, Jason talks to Joshua Lawson who has written two books on the subject. Josh lives with his family in southern Ohio, where he works in a variety of roles to support and empower the most vulnerable members of his community. His experience in Christian ministry spans the gamut from house church facilitator to small group director to lead pastor. After serving in both evangelical and progressive circles for two decades, he stepped away from formal ministry to live and work as a regular human being. Be sure to pick up Josh's books, The Face of Addiction and Drugs and Jesus (releasing April 11). You can follow Josh on Facebook.. Subscribe to Josh's Substack here. Josh is also a co-author of the compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with also includes chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by <a href="https://amzn.to/3KqQEec" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Story of Christianity Told As Good News for All</a> by Ric Machuga which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by <a href="http://www.peacefulwarriorcoffeeco.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company</a> where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free.In this episode, the crew talks about substance use disorder, harm reduction, and how people of faith can respond more compassionately. For insight on this, Jason talks to Joshua Lawson who has written two books on the subject. Josh lives with his family in southern Ohio, where he works in a variety of roles to support and empower the most vulnerable members of his community. His experience in Christian ministry spans the gamut from house church facilitator to small group director to lead pastor. After serving in both evangelical and progressive circles for two decades, he stepped away from formal ministry to live and work as a regular human being. Be sure to pick up Josh's books, <a href="https://amzn.to/40CpPcE" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Face of Addiction</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/40xncsu" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Drugs and Jesus</a> (releasing April 11). You can follow Josh on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lawsonJ23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>.. Subscribe to Josh's Substack <a href="https://joshlawson.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Josh is also a co-author of the compilation book, <a href="https://a.co/d/f71XpvR" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind</a>, with also includes chapters from some of your favorite heretics! <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwAotD-qZGePhBGLQ28x3A" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube</a> channel.Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

A Compassionate Response to Addiction

Hey, everyone. Jason here again. I got so much great feedback from the "Jesus the Mystic" message that I did a couple of weeks ago, that I decided to turn it into a series. Here is the second installment, "Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?".Sometimes, the way out of our rut is simpler than we think.What is your next step to getting unstuck? We'd love to hear from you in our Messy Conversations group on Facebook.By the way, the Robcast episode that I refer to in this message can be found here. It's the best argument I've heard against cancel culture and very much worth considering.If you'd prefer, you can watch the video of this episode on our Youtube channel.Recommended Reading:Jesus’ Alternative Plan by Richard RohrReturning to Eden by Heather HamiltonReferred to in this episode:The Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. DistefanoParenting Deconstructed Compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, everyone. Jason here again. I got so much great feedback from the "Jesus the Mystic" message that I did a couple of weeks ago, that I decided to turn it into a series. Here is the second installment, "Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?".Sometimes, the way out of our rut is simpler than we think.What is your next step to getting unstuck? We'd love to hear from you in our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on Facebook.By the way, the Robcast episode that I refer to in this message can be found <a href="https://robbell.podbean.com/e/that-was-13-robs-ago/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. It's the best argument I've heard against cancel culture and very much worth considering.If you'd prefer, you can watch the video of this episode on our <a href="https://youtu.be/aK9Y-aJ_SkI" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube channel</a>. <h3>Recommended Reading:</h3><a href="https://amzn.to/3JThhbv" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus’ Alternative Plan</a> by Richard Rohr<a href="https://amzn.to/3TpiI4t" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Returning to Eden</a> by Heather Hamilton <h3>Referred to in this episode:</h3><a href="https://amzn.to/3Fzqjrs" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Wisdom of Hobbits</a> by Matthew J. Distefano<a href="https://amzn.to/3ZZ8qum" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed</a> Compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?

This Quoircast podcast episode if brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. Order your copy of this groundbreaking book today!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co. Use promo code "Messy" for 20% off of your first order!In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason are joined by publisher, author, and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano to discuss finding inspiration among the hobbits of J.R.R. Tolkien's Shire.Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico. Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at allsetfree.com.Be sure to check out Matt's brand-new book, The Wisdom of Hobbits, when it releases on March 14, 2023!Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode if brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3TbsBT7" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything</a>. Order your copy of this groundbreaking book today!This episode is also brought to you by <a href="https://peacefulwarriorcoffee.com/discount/messy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co.</a> Use promo code "Messy" for 20% off of your first order!In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason are joined by publisher, author, and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano to discuss finding inspiration among the hobbits of J.R.R. Tolkien's Shire.Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico. Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at <a href="http://allsetfree.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">allsetfree.com</a>.Be sure to check out Matt's brand-new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3yAasFm" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Wisdom of Hobbits</a>, when it releases on March 14, 2023!Join the conversation on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations Facebook group</a>.Don't miss our new compilation book, <a href="https://a.co/d/f71XpvR" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind</a>, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics! <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwAotD-qZGePhBGLQ28x3A" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Youtube</a> channel.Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Wisdom from The Shire

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book "What Can't Be Hidden" by Brandon Andess. Order your copy today here.In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason welcome Quoir Publishers and authors Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles for a conversation about censorship and its' high cost for society.Books you are going to want to check out after listening to this episode:The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo TolstoyAlice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis CarrollA Spring Harvest by Geoffrey Bache SmithSola Mysterium by Keith GilesThe Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. Distefano (releasing March 14)Returning to Eden: a field guide for the spiritual journey by Heather HamiltonJoin the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book "What Can't Be Hidden" by Brandon Andess. Order your copy today <a href="https://amzn.to/3mmouHv" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason welcome Quoir Publishers and authors Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles for a conversation about censorship and its' high cost for society.Books you are going to want to check out after listening to this episode:<a href="https://amzn.to/3mmouHv" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Kingdom of God is Within You</a> by Leo Tolstoy<a href="https://amzn.to/3mwWOjy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass</a> by Lewis Carroll<a href="https://amzn.to/3ZpFdby" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">A Spring Harvest</a> by Geoffrey Bache Smith<a href="https://amzn.to/3mv9ozs" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Sola Mysterium</a> by Keith Giles<a href="https://amzn.to/3mnw3Od" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Wisdom of Hobbits</a> by Matthew J. Distefano (releasing March 14)<a href="https://amzn.to/3JfyUBK" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Returning to Eden</a>: a field guide for the spiritual journey by Heather HamiltonJoin the conversation on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations Facebook group</a>.Don't miss our new compilation book, <a href="https://a.co/d/f71XpvR" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind</a>, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics! <h4>Follow the crew:</h4> You can find Lola on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075353155419" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/spellbound_shears" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/hellotherelola" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>You can find Kyle on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/kyleb23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/kyle_butler23" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.tiktok.com/kyle_talks" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">TikTok</a>.You can find Jason on <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/629f7b4156d08200124fb866/episodes/www.twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (because he's way too old for TikTok.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/messyspiritualitymedia" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon page</a>!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The Cost of Censorship

Hey, everyone! Jason here. I was in the car for 10 hours yesterday and had bursts of conversation with God. I took some notes to share with you. This one is a little out there and might stretch some of my evangelical friends. Please stick with me. I think you'll like where we end up.In this talk, I discuss:The need to separate Jesus the first-century teacher from the religious icon passed down to us.The first century understanding of some of Jesus' key teachings.What forgiveness and loving our enemies really look like.The value of surrenderWhat it really means to be "woke".I hope you'll find this talk helpful. If so, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you in the comments at MessySpirituality.org.Suggested reading:How to Be An Anti-Racist by Ibram X KendiReturning to Eden by Heather HamiltonSolo Mysterium by Keith GilesThe Universal Christ by Richard RohrThe Universe Has Your Back by Gabrielle BernsteinParenting Deconstructed compiled by Jason and Brandi ElamQuestion for discussion in the comments:What is your place of surrender?*These are affiliate links and buying these books from these links will send us a small stipend that will help us keep making these videos. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, everyone! Jason here. I was in the car for 10 hours yesterday and had bursts of conversation with God. I took some notes to share with you. This one is a little out there and might stretch some of my evangelical friends. Please stick with me. I think you'll like where we end up. <h3>In this talk, I discuss:</h3><ul><li>The need to separate Jesus the first-century teacher from the religious icon passed down to us.</li><li>The first century understanding of some of Jesus' key teachings.</li><li>What forgiveness and loving our enemies really look like.</li><li>The value of surrender</li><li>What it really means to be "woke".</li></ul> I hope you'll find this talk helpful. If so, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you in the comments at <a href="http://www.messyspirituality.org" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">MessySpirituality.org</a>. <h3>Suggested reading:</h3><a href="https://amzn.to/3JhMkNW" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">How to Be An Anti-Racist</a> by Ibram X Kendi<a href="https://amzn.to/3KYV4tn" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Returning to Eden</a> by Heather Hamilton<a href="https://amzn.to/3KYV4tn" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Solo Mysterium</a> by Keith Giles<a href="https://amzn.to/3KX3SzQ" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Universal Christ</a> by Richard Rohr<a href="https://amzn.to/3ZJctu8" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Universe Has Your Back</a> by Gabrielle Bernstein<a href="https://amzn.to/3kShwtx" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Parenting Deconstructed</a> compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam<h3>Question for discussion in the comments:</h3>What is your place of surrender? *These are affiliate links and buying these books from these links will send us a small stipend that will help us keep making these videos. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Sunday Sermon: Jesus the Mystic

In this brand-new episode, Jason speaks with author Heather Hamilton about her spiritual journey, mystical experiences that change our lives, and her brilliant new book, Returning to Eden.Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about fostering human connection through storytelling, writing, art, and exchanging ideas. She lives in Atlanta with her husband and three children.You can purchase her new book, Returning to Eden, on Kindle, in paperback, or in audiobook format here.Be sure to visit Heather's website and connect with Heather on Facebook and Instagram.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this brand-new episode, Jason speaks with author Heather Hamilton about her spiritual journey, mystical experiences that change our lives, and her brilliant new book, Returning to Eden.Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about fostering human connection through storytelling, writing, art, and exchanging ideas. She lives in Atlanta with her husband and three children.You can purchase her new book, Returning to Eden, on Kindle, in paperback, or in audiobook format <a href="https://amzn.to/40fb6EN" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.Be sure to visit Heather's <a href="http://www.returningtoeden.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">website</a> and connect with Heather on <a rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heatherhamilton1/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.Join the conversation on our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations Facebook group</a>.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/messyspiritualitymedia" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon page</a>!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Is There a Way Back to Eden?

Hosted by Lola Robbins, Kyle Butler, and Jason Elam, The Messy Spirituality Podcast features conversations about life, God, spirituality, and becoming a better human. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I thought it was great. Great content and the people are so great.

GREAT PODCAST

Jason speaks my language and could probably ghost write parts of my story. If you&#39;ve ever been part of a local church you should listen to this podcast. If you have deconstructed your belief system you should listen, if your in the middle of your deconstruction or reconstruction you should listen. If you have no idea what I&#39;m talking about feel free to listen as well because it&#39;s Good News for everyone.

Jason speaks my language

Hosted by Lola Robbins, Kyle Butler, and Jason Elam, The Messy Spirituality Podcast features conversations about life, God, spirituality, and becoming a better human. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The Messy Spirituality Podcast

William Paul Young

It was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with "The Shack" author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we're terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe about God.You can purchase Paul's incredible books "The Shack", "Crossroads", "Eve", and his latest, "Lies We Believe About God" here.Visit Paul's website here.You can follow Paul's work on Facebook and Instagram.If you haven’t already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast-Messy Conversations.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!Please consider supporting the podcast on Patreon by clicking here. We can’t do what we do without you! Thanks for your ratings, reviews, follows, and shares! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with "The Shack" author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we're terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe about God.You can purchase Paul's incredible books "The Shack", "Crossroads", "Eve", and his latest, "Lies We Believe About God" <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&amp;rh=p_27%3AWm.+Paul+Young&amp;s=relevancerank&amp;text=Wm.+Paul+Young&amp;ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.Visit Paul's website <a href="http://wmpaulyoung.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can follow Paul's work on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheShackOfficial" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wmpaulyoung/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.If you haven’t already, please follow our show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/messyspiritpod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast-<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://m.me/ThePodcastDr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a> Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!Please consider supporting the podcast on Patreon by clicking <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. We can’t do what we do without you! Thanks for your ratings, reviews, follows, and shares! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 30: Encountering the God of Unending Love with William Paul Young

Steve Austin

In the wake of the passing of Christian pastor and author Jarrid Wilson by suicide at age 30, I reached out to my friend, author, and self care expert Steve Austin to share with us about his own suicide attempt and his journey back to life. The result was a powerful 30 minute conversation that we're releasing today as a special episode of the podcast. With the Wilson family's permission, author Jonathan Merritt has started a Go Fund Me page to raise financial support for Juli Wilson and her two small sons. Please contribute here if you're able.You can visit Steve Austin's website here and follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Steve is the author of the excellent books From Pastor to a Psyche Ward and Catching Your Breath.If you are struggling with depression and/or suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 for immediate help from professionals who care.  You are not alone. You matter. We need you here. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Jarrid Wilson with love and respect. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the wake of the passing of Christian pastor and author Jarrid Wilson by suicide at age 30, I reached out to my friend, author, and self care expert Steve Austin to share with us about his own suicide attempt and his journey back to life. The result was a powerful 30 minute conversation that we're releasing today as a special episode of the podcast. With the Wilson family's permission, author Jonathan Merritt has started a Go Fund Me page to raise financial support for Juli Wilson and her two small sons. Please contribute <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/a-tribute-to-jarrid-wilson?fbclid=IwAR1dpt56JTk8q6oaQSsRUWzssSz6iQNWjFYsDorJbYZg3GeVjv8E0piig9A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> if you're able.You can visit Steve Austin's website <a href="https://catchingyourbreath.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> and follow him on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/iamsteveaustin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/iAmSteveAustin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. Steve is the author of the excellent books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pastor-Psych-Ward-Recovery-Possible-ebook/dp/B01LC1LI42/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Steve+Austin+pastor&amp;qid=1568227640&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> From Pastor to a Psyche Ward</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Catching-Your-Breath-Sacred-Journey-ebook/dp/B07FXS24S7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=100LLZFT13PBY&amp;keywords=catching+your+breath+steve+austin&amp;qid=1568227681&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=Steve+Austin+catching%2Caps%2C173&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Catching Your Breath.</a>If you are struggling with depression and/or suicidal thoughts, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 for immediate help from professionals who care.  You are not alone. You matter. We need you here. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Jarrid Wilson with love and respect. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Special Episode: When You Feel Like You Can't Go On with Steve Austin

Brad Jersak

In this episode, I talk to author, theologian, and patristic scholar, Brad Jersak about hearing God, inner healing, a more beautiful gospel, the afterlife, finding community post deconstruction, areas where he struggles with Orthodox Church practice, and several books that he is currently working on-including a short story with "The Shack" author, William Paul Young.You can purchase Brad's incredible books "Can You Hear Me? Tuning in to the God Who Speaks", "Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hope, Hell, and the New Jerusalem", and "A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel" as well as his wonderful children's books "Children Can You Hear Me? and "Jesus Showed Us" via his Amazon Author page.You can follow Brad on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.Our next episode releases on Monday June 3rd featuring Andrew Parks. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, I talk to author, theologian, and patristic scholar, <a href="http://www.bradjersak.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Brad Jersak</a> about hearing God, inner healing, a more beautiful gospel, the afterlife, finding community post deconstruction, areas where he struggles with Orthodox Church practice, and several books that he is currently working on-including a short story with "The Shack" author, William Paul Young.You can purchase Brad's incredible books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Hear-Tuning-Speaks-ebook/dp/B0073M60T8/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=bradley+jersak&amp;qid=1558703621&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Can You Hear Me? Tuning in to the God Who Speaks"</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Her-Gates-Will-Never-Shut-ebook/dp/B00IGGZRJY/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=bradley+jersak&amp;qid=1558703906&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hope, Hell, and the New Jerusalem"</a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/More-Christlike-God-Beautiful-Gospel-ebook/dp/B00WJG0NGE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=bradley+jersak&amp;qid=1558703961&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel"</a> as well as his wonderful children's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Children-Can-You-Hear-Me/dp/1490405771/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=bradley+jersak&amp;qid=1558704037&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-5" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Children Can You Hear Me?</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Showed-Us-Bradley-Jersak/dp/1927512069/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=bradley+jersak&amp;qid=1558704123&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Jesus Showed Us"</a> via his <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bradley+jersak&amp;ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amazon Author page</a>.You can follow Brad on <a href="https://twitter.com/bradjersak" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/BradJersak/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bradjersak/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.Our next episode releases on Monday June 3rd featuring Andrew Parks. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 06: A Faith Worth Keeping with Brad Jersak

Kenneth Tanner

On this episode, we continue our series on our hopes and dreams for the future of the church with pastor, writer, and creative force of nature Father Kenneth Tanner. Fr. Kenneth is the pastor at Church of the Holy Redeemer, a charismatic Episcopal congregation in Rochester Hills, Michigan. In our conversation, we discuss his spiritual journey, his calling to ministry, and his aspirations for the future of the church. You can follow Fr. Kenneth on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. You can visit his blog on Clarion: Journal of Spirituality and Justice. To engage with this subject further, please join our Messy Conversations group on Facebook. You can also follow our podcast page here. We'd love for you to join our brand new online "Religion Rehab" book study by clicking here. Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly crafted by The Podcast Doctor, Eric Howell. If you're thinking about starting a podcast, please get in touch with Eric to see how to put his expertise to work for you. If you enjoy this podcast, please consider supporting our work via Patreon. You’ll receive early access to new episodes as our way of saying thanks for your generous support! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode, we continue our series on our hopes and dreams for the future of the church with pastor, writer, and creative force of nature Father Kenneth Tanner. Fr. Kenneth is the pastor at <a href="https://www.holyredeemer.us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Church of the Holy Redeemer</a>, a charismatic Episcopal congregation in Rochester Hills, Michigan. In our conversation, we discuss his spiritual journey, his calling to ministry, and his aspirations for the future of the church. You can follow Fr. Kenneth on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kenneth.tanner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/kennethtanner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kentanner/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. You can visit his blog on <a href="https://www.clarion-journal.com/clarion_journal_of_spirit/kenneth-tanner/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Clarion: Journal of Spirituality and Justice</a>. To engage with this subject further, please join our <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on Facebook. You can also follow our podcast page <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. We'd love for you to join our brand new online "Religion Rehab" book study by clicking <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/31660007" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly crafted by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThePodcastDr/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a>, Eric Howell. If you're thinking about starting a podcast, please get in touch with Eric to see how to put his expertise to work for you. If you enjoy this podcast, please consider supporting our work via <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>. You’ll receive early access to new episodes as our way of saying thanks for your generous support! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 32: The Church We Dream Of Part 2 featuring Fr. Kenneth Tanner

Keith Giles

Welcome to Episode 19 of The Messy Spirituality Podcast: Why Reconstruction Matters featuring "Jesus Unveiled" Author and Heretic Happy Hour podcast co-host Keith Giles. As a companion resource to this episode, please check out Keith's Patheos blog post on 4 Essential Elements of Reconstruction. I highly recommend Keith's excellent book, "Jesus Unveiled: Forsaking Church As We Know It For Ekklesia as God Intended". Also, please check out Keith's brand new course on reconstruction Back to Square One which launches on September 30th, 2019. I'd love for you to join me (Jason) on this journey of reconstruction!You can follow Keith on Facebook and Twitter. While you’re there, you can follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram as well.To engage further in the topics discussed on our podcast, please join our private FB group Messy Conversations. Please consider helping us continue to put out meaningful content by supporting our work on Patreon. Each episode of our podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor, Eric Howell. If you're looking for some help translating your podcast from idea to reality, look no further than The Podcast Doctor. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Episode 19 of The Messy Spirituality Podcast: Why Reconstruction Matters featuring "Jesus Unveiled" Author and Heretic Happy Hour podcast co-host Keith Giles. As a companion resource to this episode, please check out Keith's <a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patheos</a> blog post on <a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2019/09/4-essential-elements-of-reconstruction/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">4 Essential Elements of Reconstruction</a>. I highly recommend Keith's excellent book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Unveiled-Forsaking-Ekklesia-Intended-ebook/dp/B07SKCSPMP/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=KEITH+GILES&amp;qid=1569256806&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Jesus Unveiled: Forsaking Church As We Know It For Ekklesia as God Intended"</a>. Also, please check out Keith's brand new course on reconstruction <a href="http://www.bk2sq1.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Back to Square One</a> which launches on September 30th, 2019. I'd love for you to join me (Jason) on this journey of reconstruction!You can follow Keith on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/keithagiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/keithgiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>. While you’re there, you can follow our podcast on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as <a href="http://well.To" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">well.To</a> engage further in the topics discussed on our podcast, please join our private FB group <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>. Please consider helping us continue to put out meaningful content by supporting our work on <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>. Each episode of our podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThePodcastDr/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a>, Eric Howell. If you're looking for some help translating your podcast from idea to reality, look no further than The Podcast Doctor. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 19: Why Reconstruction Matters with Keith Giles

In this episode, I talk to my friend and fellow spiritual seeker Beau Hoffman about the shifting sands of deconstruction, following Jesus into reconstruction, and what it means to be evangelical today. Beau is a voice worth following on social media. You can find him on Facebook and Instagram. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, I talk to my friend and fellow spiritual seeker Beau Hoffman about the shifting sands of deconstruction, following Jesus into reconstruction, and what it means to be evangelical today. Beau is a voice worth following on social media. You can find him on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/beauhof" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beauhof/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 04: Reconstructing Evangelicalism w/Beau Hoffman

Jamal Jivanjee

In this episode, Jason speaks with author, podcaster, and life coach Jamal Jivanjee about moving from an economy of scarcity to an economy of love. You can purchase Jamal's excellent book, Living for a Living, on Amazon.This episode was engineered by Eric Howell. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Jason speaks with author, podcaster, and life coach <a href="https://freetolovecoaching.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jamal Jivanjee</a> about moving from an economy of scarcity to an economy of love. You can purchase Jamal's excellent book, Living for a Living, on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Living-Moving-Mindset-Survival-Economy-ebook/dp/B07NK674XY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=living+for+a+living+jamal&amp;qid=1555535997&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.This episode was engineered by Eric Howell. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 02:Living for a Living with Jamal Jivanjee

David Hayward

On this episode, we continue our "The Church We Dream Of" series on our collective hopes and dreams for the future of the church. My guest for this third conversation of this series is prophetic artist "Naked Pastor" David Hayward.David has a Master's Degree in Theological Studies from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a diploma in Religion Studies and Ministry from McGill University in Montreal, and a diploma in University Teaching from the University of New Brunswick. He served as a local church pastor for 30 years before leaving local church ministry in 2010.Today, David uses words and images to challenge the status quo and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it.  David founded The Lasting Supper, an online community for those looking for an alternative to conventional church.You can find David's website here.You can find David's online courses here.David's books (including Money is Spiritual, The Liberation of Sofia, and The Lasting Supper) are available in his book store.You can follow David on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.You can also follow our podcast page here.We'd love for you to join the conversation on our private Facebook group exclusively for listeners of this podcast, Messy Conversations.Help us produce this podcast by becoming a patron over on Patreon!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly crafted by The Podcast Doctor,  Eric Howell. If you’re thinking about starting a podcast, please get in  touch with Eric to see how to put his expertise to work for you. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode, we continue our "The Church We Dream Of" series on our collective hopes and dreams for the future of the church. My guest for this third conversation of this series is prophetic artist "Naked Pastor" David Hayward.David has a Master's Degree in Theological Studies from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a diploma in Religion Studies and Ministry from McGill University in Montreal, and a diploma in University Teaching from the University of New Brunswick. He served as a local church pastor for 30 years before leaving local church ministry in 2010.Today, David uses words and images to challenge the status quo and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it.  David founded <a href="https://thelastingsupper.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Lasting Supper</a>, an online community for those looking for an alternative to conventional church.You can find David's website <a href="https://www.nakedpastorstore.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can find David's online courses <a href="https://davidhaywardcourses.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.David's books (including Money is Spiritual, The Liberation of Sofia, and The Lasting Supper) are available in his <a href="https://www.nakedpastorstore.com/collections/books" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">book store</a>.You can follow David on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nakedpastor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nakedpastor" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nakedpastor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.You can also follow our podcast page <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.We'd love for you to join the conversation on our private Facebook group exclusively for listeners of this podcast, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>.Help us produce this podcast by becoming a patron over on <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly crafted by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThePodcastDr/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a>,  Eric Howell. If you’re thinking about starting a podcast, please get in  touch with Eric to see how to put his expertise to work for you. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 33: The Church We Dream Of Part 3 with "Naked Pastor" David Hayward

In this episode we explore Rene' Girard's paradigm shifting mimetic theory with author and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano. I asked Matthew to give us a very high level view for people, like me, who have struggled to grasp the concept and its' implications in our life. We also get into the practice of scapegoating and why that's so destructive. Matthew is the author of several books including: All Set Free, From the Blood of Abel, and Heretic! all available on Amazon. He is also a co-host of the popular Heretic Happy Hour podcast and also co-hosts a brand new podcast called The Bonfire Sessions. Up next: Don't miss Episode 06 featuring author Brad Jersak! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode we explore Rene' Girard's paradigm shifting mimetic theory with author and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano. I asked Matthew to give us a very high level view for people, like me, who have struggled to grasp the concept and its' implications in our life. We also get into the practice of scapegoating and why that's so destructive. <a href="http://www.allsetfree.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Matthew</a> is the author of several books including: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/All-Set-Free-Revealed-Really-ebook/dp/B0172R6MJG/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_5?keywords=matthew+j+distefano&amp;qid=1557769439&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-5-fkmrnull" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">All Set Free</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Abel-Humanitys-Violence-Theological-Anthropological-ebook/dp/B01MDPRON8/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=matthew+j+distefano&amp;qid=1557769379&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3-fkmrnull" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">From the Blood of Abel</a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Heretic-LGBTQ-Affirming-Violence-Denying-Universalists-Christianitys-ebook/dp/B07BH6TBPH/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=matthew+j+distefano&amp;qid=1557769335&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1-fkmrnull" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heretic!</a> all available on Amazon. He is also a co-host of the popular <a href="https://heretichappyhour.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heretic Happy Hour</a> podcast and also co-hosts a brand new podcast called <a href="http://www.thebonfiresessions.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Bonfire Sessions</a>. Up next: Don't miss Episode 06 featuring author Brad Jersak! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 05: Understanding Mimetic Theory with Matthew J. Distefano

Thomas Jay Oord

This episode of the podcast features author and theologian Thomas Jay Oord.In this interview, we discuss his spiritual journey, his first exposure to God's uncontrolling love, and the ramifications of a deity who refuses to control us and those around us. This is a theologically rich and thought provoking conversation full of meaning that sets us up perfectly to launch into a new year full of new opportunities to experience God's uncontrolling love.You can purchase Tom's incredible book, God Can't, here.You can learn more about Thomas Jay Oord on his website.You can follow him on Facebook here.If you haven’t already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- Messy Conversations.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!Please consider supporting the podcast on Patreon by clicking here. We can’t do what we do without you! Thanks for your ratings, reviews, follows, and shares! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode of the podcast features author and theologian Thomas Jay Oord.In this interview, we discuss his spiritual journey, his first exposure to God's uncontrolling love, and the ramifications of a deity who refuses to control us and those around us. This is a theologically rich and thought provoking conversation full of meaning that sets us up perfectly to launch into a new year full of new opportunities to experience God's uncontrolling love.You can purchase Tom's incredible book, God Can't, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Cant-Believe-after-Tragedy-ebook/dp/B07MP93F1W/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Thomas+Jay+Oord&amp;qid=1577370956&amp;sr=8-3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can learn more about Thomas Jay Oord on his <a href="http://thomasjayoord.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">website</a>.You can follow him on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThomasJayOordPublicFigure/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.If you haven’t already, please follow our show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/messyspiritpod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://m.me/ThePodcastDr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a> Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!Please consider supporting the podcast on Patreon by clicking <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. We can’t do what we do without you! Thanks for your ratings, reviews, follows, and shares! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 29: Exploring the Heights and Depths of God's Uncontrolling Love with Thomas Jay Oord

Jon Turney

My guest in this episode is musician, worship leader, and "unpastor" Jon Turney.  We talk about Jon's upbringing in the Foursquare church, why he left the church, and the freak accident that led him back to faith. Don't miss part two of this series featuring Jon's brother, Nat Turney, next week!You can follow Jon's posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.While you're there, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well.We'd love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- Messy Conversations.Please consider supporting this podcast on Patreon! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you're thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My guest in this episode is musician, worship leader, and "unpastor" Jon Turney.  We talk about Jon's upbringing in the Foursquare church, why he left the church, and the freak accident that led him back to faith. Don't miss part two of this series featuring Jon's brother, Nat Turney, next week!You can follow Jon's posts on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonturney.unpastor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/JDT1970" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/the_unpastor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.While you're there, please follow our show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/messyspiritpod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well.We'd love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>.Please consider supporting this podcast on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://m.me/ThePodcastDr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a> Eric Howell. If you're thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 21: A Tale of Two Turneys Part One-The Unpastor with Jon Turney

A common question I hear from folks escaping the grip of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is, "If God is that good then what are we saved from?". In an attempt to answer that important question, I'm recording a video series for our Patreon supporters and releasing the audio to all of you via the podcast. This message is just the start of the series and new messages will be added to that conversation over the next several weeks.You can get instant access to this video (and others) by joining the ranks of the beautiful humans who generously support the podcast via Patreon by clicking here.You can connect with me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. You can subscribe to the Messy Spirituality blog here.Please be on the look out for episode 36 of the podcast featuring Peace Catalyst International Interim President Martin Brooks releasing on Monday, February 20th!Thanks for listening! We are so grateful for you! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A common question I hear from folks escaping the grip of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is, "If God is that good then what are we saved from?". In an attempt to answer that important question, I'm recording a video series for our Patreon supporters and releasing the audio to all of you via the podcast. This message is just the start of the series and new messages will be added to that conversation over the next several weeks.You can get instant access to this video (and others) by joining the ranks of the beautiful humans who generously support the podcast via Patreon by clicking <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can connect with me on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/beingjasonelam" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beingjasonelam/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. You can subscribe to the Messy Spirituality blog <a href="http://www.MessySpirituality.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.Please be on the look out for episode 36 of the podcast featuring Peace Catalyst International Interim President Martin Brooks releasing on Monday, February 20th!Thanks for listening! We are so grateful for you! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

A Very Messy Message: If God is Good Then What Are We Saved From? Part 1

For episode two of our new raw and uncut series "Messy Conversations", I spoke to my friend "Jesus Undefeated" author Keith Giles. We talk about the three dominant afterlife doctrines of the early church, Keith's own evolving views, why it matters what we believe about the afterlife, and how Keith handles very public (and often, mean-spirited) criticism.  Keith is a co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. Check out Keith's blog here. Keith writes incredible books that challenge, educate, and inspire us to follow Jesus more closely. I highly recommend Jesus Untangled, Jesus Unbound, Jesus Unveiled, and his latest (and possibly, best) book, Jesus Undefeated. Keith helps people navigate the rough road of deconstruction/reconstruction through his comprehensive Back to Square One program. Keith has given himself entirely to the work of writing and podcasting and he is making a real difference in the lives of real people who might otherwise feel alone. Please consider supporting his important work on Patreon. You can follow Keith on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. If you haven’t already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- Messy Conversations. Please consider supporting this podcast on Patreon! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year! Also exclusively on Patreon-I'm starting a "Religion Rehab" online book club specifically for those on the deconstruction/reconstruction journey. I'll send you one book and host two online video conferences per month (one in December) to help you navigate the journey of rebuilding faith when you no longer believe what you've always believed. You don't have to do this alone. There are thousands of us on that same journey. We'll get through this together. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For episode two of our new raw and uncut series "Messy Conversations", I spoke to my friend "Jesus Undefeated" author Keith Giles. We talk about the three dominant afterlife doctrines of the early church, Keith's own evolving views, why it matters what we believe about the afterlife, and how Keith handles very public (and often, mean-spirited) criticism.  Keith is a co-host of the <a href="https://heretichappyhour.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heretic Happy Hour Podcast</a>. Check out Keith's blog <a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Keith writes incredible books that challenge, educate, and inspire us to follow Jesus more closely. I highly recommend <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Untangled-Crucifying-Politics-Allegiance-ebook/dp/B01MS71KHV/ref=pd_sim_351_1/139-5219486-8891507?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01MS71KHV&amp;pd_rd_r=1e1a28c0-80a0-43e8-936c-092aa20e3ca4&amp;pd_rd_w=pBmPT&amp;pd_rd_wg=91MIg&amp;pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&amp;pf_rd_r=JYN8VG50D3F8WV14SWZM&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=JYN8VG50D3F8WV14SWZM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Untangled</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Unbound-Liberating-Word-Bible-ebook/dp/B07DMQRRXK/ref=pd_sim_351_2/139-5219486-8891507?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B07DMQRRXK&amp;pd_rd_r=a508367d-64ec-431b-8f82-c5690ab1aab7&amp;pd_rd_w=t0lrl&amp;pd_rd_wg=wkccB&amp;pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&amp;pf_rd_r=F37JC0QP6A8TF26ZFG53&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=F37JC0QP6A8TF26ZFG53" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Unbound</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Unveiled-Forsaking-Ekklesia-Intended-ebook/dp/B07SKCSPMP/ref=pd_sim_351_1/139-5219486-8891507?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B07SKCSPMP&amp;pd_rd_r=82a002c5-40af-4f2c-a898-88c2e532f03c&amp;pd_rd_w=sTWa8&amp;pd_rd_wg=6OnOA&amp;pf_rd_p=04d27813-a1f2-4e7b-a32b-b5ab374ce3f9&amp;pf_rd_r=83KAQTZFKX0MVRWAK4SB&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=83KAQTZFKX0MVRWAK4SB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Unveiled</a>, and his latest (and possibly, best) book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Undefeated-Condemning-Doctrine-Eternal-ebook/dp/B07ZHP2T6G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=giles&amp;qid=1574384027&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Undefeated</a>. Keith helps people navigate the rough road of deconstruction/reconstruction through his comprehensive <a href="https://www.bk2sq1.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Back to Square One</a> program. Keith has given himself entirely to the work of writing and podcasting and he is making a real difference in the lives of real people who might otherwise feel alone. Please consider supporting his important work on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/KeithGiles/posts" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>. You can follow Keith on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/keithagiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/keithgiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/keithagiles/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. If you haven’t already, please follow our show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/messyspiritpod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well. We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>. Please consider supporting this podcast on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year! Also exclusively on Patreon-I'm starting a "Religion Rehab" online book club specifically for those on the deconstruction/reconstruction journey. I'll send you one book and host two online video conferences per month (one in December) to help you navigate the journey of rebuilding faith when you no longer believe what you've always believed. You don't have to do this alone. There are thousands of us on that same journey. We'll get through this together. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Messy Conversations 002: A Love Stronger Than Hell with Keith Giles

Andrew Parks

This episode of the podcast features writer and theologian Andrew Parks sharing his personal experience with the Person and work of the Holy Spirit.  Does Holy Spirit fill only those who meet certain requirements? What is the purpose of this filling? What is the role of Holy Spirit in our lives? Is there a certain sign that we've been filled by the Spirit? We examine all of these questions and much more in this episode. Check out Andrew's blog here. You can follow Andrew on Facebook and Twitter.  While you’re there, you can follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram as well. To engage further in the topics discussed on our podcast, please join our private FB group Messy Conversations. Please consider helping us continue to put out meaningful content by supporting our work on Patreon.Each episode of our podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor, Eric Howell. If you're looking for some help translating your podcast from idea to reality, look no further than The Podcast Doctor. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode of the podcast features writer and theologian Andrew Parks sharing his personal experience with the Person and work of the Holy Spirit.  Does Holy Spirit fill only those who meet certain requirements? What is the purpose of this filling? What is the role of Holy Spirit in our lives? Is there a certain sign that we've been filled by the Spirit? We examine all of these questions and much more in this episode. Check out Andrew's blog <a href="https://turnorsojourn.home.blog/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. You can follow Andrew on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/keithagiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/keithgiles" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>.  While you’re there, you can follow our podcast on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well. To engage further in the topics discussed on our podcast, please join our private FB group <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>. Please consider helping us continue to put out meaningful content by supporting our work on <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>.Each episode of our podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThePodcastDr/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a>, Eric Howell. If you're looking for some help translating your podcast from idea to reality, look no further than The Podcast Doctor. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 20: Holy Spirit with Andrew Parks

In Episode 03, we welcome back our first ever repeat guest-Jesus Unbound author Keith Giles-to discuss the journey from belief in the Bible as the inerrant Word of God to a belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the one and only Word of God.What does that mean for our faith?Where did the Bible come from?Did God dictate the words of scripture to the writers?How do we transition from a life of following the Bible to a life of following Jesus?We discuss all of these questions and more.For further study, order Keith's incredible book Jesus Unbound from Amazon.  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Episode 03, we welcome back our first ever repeat guest-Jesus Unbound author Keith Giles-to discuss the journey from belief in the Bible as the inerrant Word of God to a belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the one and only Word of God.What does that mean for our faith?Where did the Bible come from?Did God dictate the words of scripture to the writers?How do we transition from a life of following the Bible to a life of following Jesus?We discuss all of these questions and more.For further study, order Keith's incredible book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Unbound-Liberating-Word-Bible-ebook/dp/B07DMQRRXK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jesus+unbound&amp;qid=1556042603&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Unbound</a> from Amazon.  <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 03: From Inerrancy to Inspiration with Keith Giles

Michele Snyder

Episode 25  featuring Michele Snyder. Michele is the host of "The Redheaded Ragamuffin" podcast.  We talk about Michele's history of escaping fundamentalism and learning to see God as a loving Father. You can find Michele's website here.You can listen to Michele's podcast here. Recent episodes feature bestselling authors Mary Demuth and Thomas Jay Oord. Subscribe to this podcast so you don't miss an episode!You can follow Michele on Facebook and Twitter.If you haven't already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well.We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- Messy Conversations.Please consider supporting this podcast on Patreon! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episode 25  featuring Michele Snyder. Michele is the host of "The Redheaded Ragamuffin" podcast.  We talk about Michele's history of escaping fundamentalism and learning to see God as a loving Father. You can find Michele's website <a href="http://www.theredheadedragamuffin.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can listen to Michele's podcast <a href="https://anchor.fm/theredheadedragamuffin/episodes/Thomas-Jay-Oord---God-Cant-e95i41" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Recent episodes feature bestselling authors Mary Demuth and Thomas Jay Oord. Subscribe to this podcast so you don't miss an episode!You can follow Michele on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redheadedragamuffin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/mickoneysnyder" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter.</a>If you haven't already, please follow our show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/messyspiritpod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> as well.We’d love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a>.Please consider supporting this podcast on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! In exchange for your generous support (starting for as little as $1 per month) you can get cool perks like early access to every episode of the podcast and a free copy of my new book releasing later this year!Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by <a href="https://m.me/ThePodcastDr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Podcast Doctor</a> Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 25: The Redheaded Ragamuffin with Michele Snyder

Jason Elam

And now, for something completely different...In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about "hell", and more. Jason Elam is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi's grateful husband and proud dad of four awesome kids. He currently serves as a community organizer at The Hope Center near Birmingham, Alabama.You can follow The Messy Spirituality Podcast on Facebook and support us on Patreon! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

And now, for something completely different...In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about "hell", and more. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/bartenderofgrace" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jason Elam</a> is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi's grateful husband and proud dad of four awesome kids. He currently serves as a community organizer at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/servealabama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Hope Center</a> near Birmingham, Alabama.You can follow <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Messy Spirituality Podcast</a> on Facebook and support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 13: Displacing Fear With Love with Jason Elam

Bob Hutchins

In this episode, I talk to author, podcaster, ordained minister, and social media marketing master, Bob Hutchins, about his faith journey, the dark side of the faith based film industry, Enneagram, and overcoming cynicism.If you haven't already, you should really check out Bob's excellent podcast-Rumors of Grace wherever you listen to podcasts. It's one of my favorites.You can follow Bob on Facebook and Instagram.You can also follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram.We'd love to have your support on Patreon. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, I talk to author, podcaster, ordained minister, and social media marketing master, Bob Hutchins, about his faith journey, the dark side of the faith based film industry, Enneagram, and overcoming cynicism.If you haven't already, you should really check out Bob's excellent podcast-<a href="https://rumorsofgrace.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rumors of Grace</a> wherever you listen to podcasts. It's one of my favorites.You can follow Bob on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/bob.hutchins.9883" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bwhutchins/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.You can also follow our podcast on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/messyspiritualitypodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.We'd love to have your support on <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 16: Growing Things Change with Bob Hutchins

Mark Karris

In this episode, we talk with pastor, author, and licensed marriage and family therapist Mark Karris about what prayer might look like post deconstruction. Mark shares about his tragic childhood, the uncontrolling love of God, and whether or not miracles fit into his understanding of prayer.During our conversation, Mark mentions an article he wrote entitled, "Death and Life By a Thousand Cuts". You can find it here.You can purchase Mark's incredible book, Divine Echoes, on Amazon and follow Mark's work on Facebook. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we talk with pastor, author, and licensed marriage and family therapist <a href="http://markgregorykarris.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mark Karris</a> about what prayer might look like post deconstruction. Mark shares about his tragic childhood, the uncontrolling love of God, and whether or not miracles fit into his understanding of prayer.During our conversation, Mark mentions an article he wrote entitled, "Death and Life By a Thousand Cuts". You can find it <a href="https://epublications.regis.edu/cftsr/vol2/iss1/2/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.You can purchase Mark's incredible book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Echoes-Reconciling-Prayer-Uncontrolling-ebook/dp/B078WFV3NT/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=mark+karris&amp;qid=1559701401&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Divine Echoes</a>, on Amazon and follow Mark's work on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DivineEchoesConspiringPrayer/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook.</a> <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Episode 08: Reconciling Prayer With the Uncontrolling Love of God with Mark Karris

And now for something completely different... In this episode, I share some rough, unedited thoughts that have been percolating in my heart about learning to live at peace with God, ourselves, and the whole human family. I invite you to join me in praying the following benediction at the end:Creator of all Who keeps no record of wrongs Who points no finger in blame Who loves every member of the human family with scandalous love Teach me to see you, myself, and the whole human family through your eyes Hear through your ears Serve with your hands Forgive with your grace And love with your heart Amen. If you haven't yet, please join the Messy Conversations group on Facebook. You can "Like" our podcast FB page here. Please consider supporting this podcast on Patreon. You can visit our blog here. Thanks so much for listening and for your incredible support of this podcast. We couldn't do this without you! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

And now for something completely different... In this episode, I share some rough, unedited thoughts that have been percolating in my heart about learning to live at peace with God, ourselves, and the whole human family. I invite you to join me in praying the following benediction at the end:Creator of all Who keeps no record of wrongs Who points no finger in blame Who loves every member of the human family with scandalous love Teach me to see you, myself, and the whole human family through your eyes Hear through your ears Serve with your hands Forgive with your grace And love with your heart Amen. If you haven't yet, please join the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/messyconversations/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Messy Conversations</a> group on Facebook. You can "Like" our podcast FB page <a href="https://www.facebook.com/messyspiritualitypodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Please consider supporting this podcast on <a href="http://www.patreon.com/jasonelamwrites" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>. You can visit our blog <a href="http://www.messyspirituality.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Thanks so much for listening and for your incredible support of this podcast. We couldn't do this without you! <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/8793602" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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