Mike Winger

Hi friends. This one is long. We decided that, after numerous requests, that it was time to do up a response to Mike Winger on this subject. His series has had some impact in the popular Christian sphere and we felt his work merited some correction and faithful push back. While we try to be fair, there are numerous errors throughout his video.You can find Mike’s video here.Here is the source on Rebecca Groothius written by Dr. Douglas Groothius, published in Priscilla Papers. Here is the resource written by Allison on “Equating Feminism” that won an award. Be sure to become a patron if that suits you.For a similarly exhaustive and rather devastating response to Mike, see the series by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams right here. They do not respond to Mike’s first video, but they have responded to every subsequent video.Be sure to share this one widely. Blessings!N&amp;AQ

Hi friends. This one is long. We decided that, after numerous requests, that it was time to do up a response to Mike Winger on this subject. His series has had some impact in the popular Christian sphere and we felt his work merited some correction and faithful push back. While we try to be fair, there are numerous errors throughout his video.You can find Mike’s video <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/3HQSlQLYQsE?feature=share" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.<a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/rebecca-merrill-groothuiss-contribution-biblical-equality/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a> is the source on Rebecca Groothius written by Dr. Douglas Groothius, published in Priscilla Papers. <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/equating-feminisms/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a> is the resource written by Allison on “Equating Feminism” that won an award. Be sure to become a patron if that suits you.For a similarly exhaustive and rather devastating response to Mike, see the series by Andrew Bartlett and Terran Williams right <a href="https://terranwilliams.com/articles/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. They do not respond to Mike’s first video, but they have responded to every subsequent video.Be sure to share this one widely. Blessings!N&amp;AQ

54: An Egalitarian Response to Mike Winger - "Introduction"

Nick and Allison discuss their thoughts on the recent Matt Walsh (The Daily Wire) film, "What is a Woman?"

Nick and Allison discuss their thoughts on the recent Matt Walsh (The Daily Wire) film, "What is a Woman?"

53: "What is a Woman?" - A Critical Review

We talk life and parenting from an egalitarian perspective.

We talk life and parenting from an egalitarian perspective.

52: Life Update & Egalitarian Parenting

Hi all! Here is a new episode of our review concernign Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology (2nd ed). We published this critical review in the peer-review journal Priscilla Papers 35.2 (2020): 19-22. You can read our more extensive review right here.

Hi all! Here is a new episode of our review concernign Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology (2nd ed). We published this critical review in the peer-review journal Priscilla Papers 35.2 (2020): 19-22. You can read our more extensive review right <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/article/priscilla-papers-academic-journal/systematic-theology-introduction-biblical" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

Grudem on the Trinity and Women: A Critical Review of Systematic Theology (2nd Ed)

Hi all! Just a quick episode in support of two great organizations and their upcoming gatherings and conferences! Check out the M3ND Project HERE and the CBE Conference HERE!

Hi all! Just a quick episode in support of two great organizations and their upcoming gatherings and conferences! Check out the M3ND Project <a href="https://themendproject.com/i-want-to-help-someone-being-abused/gain-tools-to-respond-to-abuse/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a> and the CBE Conference <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/content/2020-london-international-conference" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a>!

Episode 50: Say No to Abuse and Yes to Diversity: The M3ND Project and CBE International

Dan Morrison

“When you read Revelation, you should read it like a political cartoon.” “The harlot rides the Beast … the Bride of Christ does not.”If either phrase intrigues you, then you are in for a beast of a good time with us! In this episode with our good friend Rev. Dr. Dan Morrison, we talk about symbolism, hermeneutics, gender, and political theology and so much more in the complex and intricate Book of Revelation! We even ask Dan a question or two about his favorite films and tv shows and his work in weight lifting! Follow Dan on twitter and consider supporting us on Patreon! Blessings from Allison, Nick, and Nugs!

“When you read Revelation, you should read it like a political cartoon.” “The harlot rides the Beast … the Bride of Christ does not.”If either phrase intrigues you, then you are in for a beast of a good time with us! In this episode with our good friend Rev. Dr. Dan Morrison, we talk about symbolism, hermeneutics, gender, and political theology and so much more in the complex and intricate Book of Revelation! We even ask Dan a question or two about his favorite films and tv shows and his work in weight lifting! Follow Dan on <a href="@kerygma1983" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter</a> and consider supporting us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast?fan_landing=true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! Blessings from Allison, Nick, and Nugs!

49: Symbolism and Gender in the Book of Revelation with Rev. Dr. Dan Morrison

Nijay K. Gupta

We are back, and we have on our new friend and fellow theology geek Dr. Nijay K. Gupta. Nijay is Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary and is currently writing a book on the subject of women in the New Testament world. He has also penned numerous books and journal articles on Pauline theology. He joins us to talk about his forthcoming book on women in Scripture, his journey into egalitarian theology, his work on Junia, and advice for future scholars and theologians. It is a wonderful conversation and we hope you love, it and share it around! You can follow Nijay on twitter here, you can check out his blog here, and you can contact him via his seminary page here. If you like what we are doing, consider supporting our ministry via patreon!Nick &amp; Allison &amp; Nugs 

We are back, and we have on our new friend and fellow theology geek Dr. Nijay K. Gupta. Nijay is Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary and is currently writing a book on the subject of women in the New Testament world. He has also penned numerous <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nijay-K.-Gupta/e/B004I4TYLA%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">books</a> and journal articles on Pauline theology. He joins us to talk about his forthcoming book on women in Scripture, his journey into egalitarian theology, his work on Junia, and advice for future scholars and theologians. It is a wonderful conversation and we hope you love, it and share it around! You can follow Nijay on twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/NijayKGupta?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>, you can check out his blog <a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/cruxsola/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>, and you can contact him via his seminary page <a href="https://www.seminary.edu/faculty/dr-nijay-gupta/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. If you like what we are doing, consider supporting our ministry via <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon</a>!Nick &amp; Allison &amp; Nugs

48: Early Christians, Aspiring Young Scholars, and Twitter with Dr. Nijay K. Gupta

Well, this episode is a deep dive into some really fascinating and complex issues! Dr. Payne is a major influence on our thinking and we were delighted to host him as he shared some stories of his life and a lot about his work in textual criticism. Please find available for free download Phil Payne's summary article that answers the 12 most commonly alleged biblical reasons against the equal standing of man and woman. It puts in 8 pages the core argument of my 511 page book, Man and Woman, One in Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Study of Paul’s Letters (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2009, list $32.99) available for $19.99 at https://www.lingistsoftware.You may also download free a summary of the 6 groundbreaking discoveries identified in Phil Payne's October 2017 New Testament Studies article on the Vaticanus Distigme-obelos symbols. That article was listed as the “Most read” article on the NTS website for at least a year. It is available to download free HERE. Note that the key reasons for regarding 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 as a later addition are unique to this passage and so do not undermine the reliability of any other passage of Scripture.Phil Payne later discovered 8 more Vaticanus distigme-obelos symbols. Most of them are in the sixth column of the open codex, where the distigme was put on the right side of the column to make it easier to see, including the case of the adulteress (John 7:58 - 8:11). All 8 have a gap in the text at the exact point where some other manuscripts add at least four consecutive words that were not in the original text. This makes the case exponentially stronger that this same symbol marking the beginning of 1 Cor 14:34-35 does indeed identify it as a later addition that was not in Paul's original letter. You may also download free Phil Payne's "Critique of Vaticanus Distigme-Obelos Denials" with photographs of the additional 8. Payne also responds to critiques of his work here.Dr. Payne can be contacted at philip.b.payne@gmail.com or through his website.

Well, this episode is a deep dive into some really fascinating and complex issues! Dr. Payne is a major influence on our thinking and we were delighted to host him as he shared some stories of his life and a lot about his work in textual criticism. Please find available for free download Phil Payne's summary <a href="https://www.pbpayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Payne.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">article</a> that answers the 12 most commonly alleged biblical reasons against the equal standing of man and woman. It puts in 8 pages the core argument of my 511 page book, Man and Woman, One in Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Study of Paul’s Letters (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2009, list $32.99) available for $19.99 at <a href="https://www.lingistsoftware" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.lingistsoftware</a>.You may also download free a summary of the 6 groundbreaking discoveries identified in Phil Payne's October 2017 New Testament Studies article on the Vaticanus Distigme-obelos symbols. That article was listed as the “Most read” article on the NTS website for at least a year. It is available to download free <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/new-testament-studies/article/vaticanus-distigmeobelos-symbols-marking-added-text-including-1-corinthians-14345/A5FC01A6E14A2A1CF1F514A9BF93C581" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a>. Note that the key reasons for regarding 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 as a later addition are unique to this passage and so do not undermine the reliability of any other passage of Scripture.Phil Payne later discovered 8 more Vaticanus distigme-obelos symbols. Most of them are in the sixth column of the open codex, where the distigme was put on the right side of the column to make it easier to see, including the case of the adulteress (John 7:58 - 8:11). All 8 have a gap in the text at the exact point where some other manuscripts add at least four consecutive words that were not in the original text. This makes the case exponentially stronger that this same symbol marking the beginning of 1 Cor 14:34-35 does indeed identify it as a later addition that was not in Paul's original letter. You may also download free Phil Payne's "Critique of Vaticanus Distigme-Obelos Denials" with photographs of the additional 8. Payne also responds to critiques of his work <a href="https://www.pbpayne.com/critique-of-vaticanus-distigme-obelos-denials/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.Dr. Payne can be contacted at <a href="mailto:philip.b.payne@gmail.com">philip.b.payne@gmail.com</a> or through his <a href="https://www.pbpayne.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">website</a>.

47: Are Women to be Silent in the Church? Discussing 1 Cor 14:34-35 with Dr. Philip B. Payne

Annette Oltmans

Allison and Nick talk with Annette Oltmans of THE M3ND PROJECT about double abuse in the church. If you like what we are doing and want to support this podcast, help us out on Patreon!

Allison and Nick talk with Annette Oltmans of <a href="https://themendproject.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">THE M3ND PROJECT</a> about double abuse in the church. If you like what we are doing and want to support this podcast, help us out on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>!

46: Double Abuse & Mending the Church with Annette Oltmans

In this episode, Allison and Nick complete their brief series on Colossians 3 with a precise exegesis of Col 3:18-4:1. Apologies in advance for Nolan's chirping and screaming at various points. He is a baby, after all. Thank you for your support during this time. If you want to support us on patreon, click here!

In this episode, Allison and Nick complete their brief series on Colossians 3 with a precise exegesis of Col 3:18-4:1. Apologies in advance for Nolan's chirping and screaming at various points. He is a baby, after all. Thank you for your support during this time. If you want to support us on patreon, click <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>!

45: Wives Submit to Your Husbands? Colossians 3:18-4:1

A podcast dedicated to exploring Christian theology from an evangelical perspective.

I admire the courage and grace of these two so much! These are not easy topics to cover, with so much controversy and division in churches over these things, but there is always a sense of love and care in this podcast. This has been an example to me as I’m trying to learn how to navigate extreme tension in these areas. Highly recommend this podcast!

My new favorite podcast!

I&#39;m excited to listen to the future episodes!

Great podcast!

The Split Frame of Reference Podcast

Eugene Hung

In this episode, Nick and Allison are joined by Eugene Hung (Feminist Asian Dad). Eugene is a former evangelical pastor and Dallas Seminary graduate, Eugene currently writes and speaks on a freelance basis about issues of gender, race, and parenting. He has also served as an educator for relationship and sexual violence prevention at UC Irvine, as well as a movement organizer and digital communications manager for the nonprofit Man Up Campaign. He is here to talk with us about violence prevention in churches and schools.He has written on #MeToo and the Church for Mutuality Magazine and This is What a Feminist Asian Dad Looks Like for The Junia Project.If you like what we are doing on this ministry and podcast, consider becoming one of our patrons!

In this episode, Nick and Allison are joined by Eugene Hung (<a href="https://feministasiandad.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Feminist Asian Dad</a>). Eugene is a former evangelical pastor and Dallas Seminary graduate, Eugene currently writes and speaks on a freelance basis about issues of gender, race, and parenting. He has also served as an educator for relationship and sexual violence prevention at UC Irvine, as well as a movement organizer and digital communications manager for the nonprofit Man Up Campaign. He is here to talk with us about violence prevention in churches and schools.He has written on <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/article/mutuality-blog-magazine/metoo-and-church" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">#MeToo and the Church</a> for Mutuality Magazine and <a href="https://juniaproject.com/this-is-what-a-feminist-asian-dad-looks-like/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">This is What a Feminist Asian Dad Looks Like </a>for The Junia Project.If you like what we are doing on this ministry and podcast, consider becoming one of our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patrons</a>!

39: Violence Prevention at Churches and Schools with Eugene Hung

John MacArthur

Well, here it is! I must say Allison and I are getting pretty good at this!In this episode, we tackle 1 Tim. 3:1-13 and show that it cannot be used in isolation, nor can it be used to exclude women from the office of 'elder' and 'deacon/minister.' We also respond to two main comments by Pastor John MacArthur, and refute his arguments for a male leadership interpretation of this passage. Since MacArthur agrees with us about women deacons (although we do not know how this works out in practice in his church), we did not respond to his comments on women deacons.Rather than being an exclusion of women from either office, 1 Tim. 3:1-13 affirms women's desire to "aspire for these offices in conjunction with God's gifts and God's call in their lives. For resources on this topic, particularly the issue of women deacons in Rom. 16:1-2, 1 Tim. 3:11 and church history, see the work of Jamin Hübner's A Case for Female Deacons (Eugene: Wipf &amp; Stock, 2015).For a modern and compact commentary that is concerned with the dominant masculine translations of 1 Tim. 3:1-13, see Aida Spencer's 1 Timothy (Eugene: Cascade, 2013).Subscribe to us on iTunes and give us a (5 star?) review! Follow Nick and Allison on twitter!N/A

Well, here it is! I must say Allison and I are getting pretty good at this!In this episode, we tackle 1 Tim. 3:1-13 and show that it cannot be used in isolation, nor can it be used to exclude women from the office of 'elder' and 'deacon/minister.' We also respond to two main comments by Pastor John MacArthur, and refute his arguments for a male leadership interpretation of this passage. Since MacArthur agrees with us about women deacons (although we do not know how this works out in practice in his church), we did not respond to his comments on women deacons.Rather than being an exclusion of women from either office, 1 Tim. 3:1-13 affirms women's desire to "aspire for these offices in conjunction with God's gifts and God's call in their lives. For resources on this topic, particularly the issue of women deacons in Rom. 16:1-2, 1 Tim. 3:11 and church history, see the work of Jamin Hübner's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Case-Female-Deacons-Jamin-H%C3%BCbner/dp/1625648847/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480888152&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=jamin+hubner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Case for Female Deacons</a> (Eugene: Wipf &amp; Stock, 2015).For a modern and compact commentary that is concerned with the dominant masculine translations of 1 Tim. 3:1-13, see Aida Spencer's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/1-Timothy-New-Covenant-Commentary/dp/1556359918/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480888343&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=aida+spencer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1 Timothy</a> (Eugene: Cascade, 2013).Subscribe to us on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-split-frame-reference/id1176375687?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">iTunes</a> and give us a (5 star?) review! Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a> on twitter!N/A

3: 1 Timothy 3, Women Leaders and a Response to John MacArthur

In this mega super yuge episode totally nearly 2 hours (!), Nick and Allison explore the complexities of bible translations, and how modern English translations impact gender. We look especially at the ESV and give a brief response to Mike Winger, a Christian apologist who did an entire video on bible translations that is both helpful and somewhat inaccurate, as well as some prominent complementarians who played politics with English translations.Support Nick and Allison on PATREON. Follow them on Twitter (Nick and Allison). 

In this mega super yuge episode totally nearly 2 hours (!), Nick and Allison explore the complexities of bible translations, and how modern English translations impact gender. We look especially at the ESV and give a brief response to Mike Winger, a Christian apologist who did an entire <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPoKIE5y1U" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">video</a> on bible translations that is both helpful and somewhat inaccurate, as well as some prominent complementarians who played politics with English translations.Support Nick and Allison on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PATREON</a>. Follow them on Twitter (<a href="@NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="@AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a>).

27: Bible Translations & Gender

Cynthia Long

Cynthia Long Westfall

In this episode (clocking in at over 90 minutes!!!) Nick and Allison are joined by Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall. Dr. Westfall is Associate Professor of New Testament at McMaster Divinity College and an expert in linguistics, discourse analysis, word studies, Hebrews, and Paul and gender. She joins us today to talk about 1 Timothy 2:12 and the specific verb that has caused a lot of controversy!Dr. Westfall has written perhaps one of the best books on the topic of women in ministry, Paul and Gender. For those who are looking for in-depth exegetical and linguistic analysis, see her article on 1 Tim 2:12 here as well as her work on gender and hermeneutics in Priscilla Papers here.If you like what we are doing here in creating the world’s great egalitarian podcast/audio resource, consider supporting our podcast on Patreon!*A note, we talk about some Biblical words that are considered vulgar in their context. Just a heads up.

In this episode (clocking in at over 90 minutes!!!) Nick and Allison are joined by <a href="https://mcmasterdivinity.ca/faculty-and-administration/cynthia-long-westfall/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall.</a> Dr. Westfall is Associate Professor of New Testament at McMaster Divinity College and an expert in linguistics, discourse analysis, word studies, Hebrews, and Paul and gender. She joins us today to talk about 1 Timothy 2:12 and the specific verb that has caused a lot of controversy!Dr. Westfall has written perhaps one of the best books on the topic of women in ministry, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Gender-Reclaiming-Apostles-Vision/dp/0801097940/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Paul and Gender</a>. For those who are looking for in-depth exegetical and linguistic analysis, see her article on 1 Tim 2:12 <a href="https://www.google.com/url?cad=rja&amp;cd=6&amp;esrc=s&amp;q=&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;uact=8&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jgrchj.net%2Fvolume10%2FJGRChJ10-7_Westfall.pdf&amp;usg=AOvVaw0y0KeihKtedIaX9ciLFdXD&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjXs8_O2v_oAhXNHzQIHcqOCmUQFjAFegQIBBAB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> as well as her work on gender and hermeneutics in Priscilla Papers <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resources/article/priscilla-papers/developing-consistent-hermeneutical-approach-application-general" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.If you like what we are doing here in creating the world’s great egalitarian podcast/audio resource, consider supporting our podcast on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>!*A note, we talk about some Biblical words that are considered vulgar in their context. Just a heads up.

37 Linguistics, Word Studies, and 1 Timothy 2:12 with Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall

Christa McKirland

We are so excited to welcome Dr. Christa McKirland onto our show! Christa is a longtime friend of ours from our time at Biola and she is now Lecturer in Systematic Theology at Carey Baptist College in New Zealand. In this episode we talk about gender, priesthood, analytic theology, human desire and purpose, and the Imago Dei. Pretty heady and spicy stuff!You can find some of Christa’s work in Priscilla Papers as well as her other work at CBE. She is also co-editor of Discovering Biblical Equality (3rd ed) which is due out in 2021 (ish).She is the founder and executive director of Logia within the Logos Institute at the University of Saint Andrews, Scotland, where she did her Ph.D.If you like what we are doing here at Split Frame, please consider becoming a patron and supporting us financially!Nick and Allison and Nolan and Barclay

We are so excited to welcome Dr. Christa McKirland onto our show! Christa is a longtime friend of ours from our time at Biola and she is now <a href="https://www.carey.ac.nz/why-carey/carey-staff/academic-staff/dr-christa-mckirland/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lecturer in Systematic Theology </a>at Carey Baptist College in New Zealand. In this episode we talk about gender, priesthood, analytic theology, human desire and purpose, and the Imago Dei. Pretty heady and spicy stuff!You can find some of Christa’s work in <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/article/priscilla-papers-academic-journal/whos-charge-questioning-our-common-assumptions" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Priscilla Papers</a> as well as her other work at <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/christa-l-mckirland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CBE</a>. She is also co-editor of Discovering Biblical Equality (3rd ed) which is due out in 2021 (ish).She is the founder and executive director of <a href="http://logos.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/logia/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Logia</a> within the Logos Institute at the University of Saint Andrews, Scotland, where she did her Ph.D.If you like what we are doing here at Split Frame, please consider becoming a <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patron and supporting us financially!</a>Nick and Allison and Nolan and Barclay

40: Gender, Priesthood and the Imago Dei with Christa McKirland

Jamin Hübner

John Piper

Allison and I originally planned on working through Galatians 3:26-29 (and more specifically through the entire epistle) in this episode, but some interesting events have occurred in the blogosphere that demanded our response.On April 19th, John Piper released a short 10 minute video where he responded to a questioner from the United Kingdom. The questioner asked him about the 'future of male headship' and if it was a 'lost cause.' As can be expected, Piper offered four (one? you'll get it later if you listen to our episode) complementarian reasons why he does not think male headship is a lost cause. You can read/listen to the entire thing here, and Allison and I figured this would be worth a detailed response. In order to best examine and critique Piper's comments, we had on our first guest, Dr. Jamin Hübner! Dr. Hübner is Director of Institutional Effectiveness and Associate Professor at John Witherspoon College in Rapid City, South Dakota. Dr. Hübner is a graduate of Dordt College (BA Theology), Reformed Theological Seminary (MA Religion), and the University of South Africa (ThD). He has also blogged at Christians for Biblical Equality.Dr. Hübner's works include a book called A Case for Female Deacons (a work we have recommended before) and multiple academic articles on various aspects of the gender debate, including peer-reviewed in-depth research on the controversial "assume authority" infinitive in 1 Tim 2:12, Bible translation issues regarding the clarity of Scripture and how to translate the same infinitive in 1 Tim 2:12, and the history of the evolutionary process of complementarian exegesis. So, as you can see, we were deeply blessed to have such a scholar on our podcast! Plus, he's quite fun to chat with as well, as you will see!The Desiring God video includes a transcript of his response to the questioner, and we invite you to read through it as we discuss in great depth why we all believe John Piper is deeply wrong about this issue. As you will see, egalitarians are not interested in merely accommodating culture. Allison, Dr. Hübner and I all came to our position through rigorous analysis of the Biblical texts and we all profess and live into our commitment to the authority of God's word. Speaking only for myself (Nick), if I thought Scripture said otherwise, I would be a committed complementarian. As such, Scripture gets to dictate my beliefs and I remain a convinced egalitarian.Far from being a 'liberal' movement, both Dr. Mimi Haddad (President of CBE) and Allison Quient have shown that egalitarianism is far more rooted in historic evangelicalism than complementarianism. Indeed, a mere perusal of the original signers of the Christians for Biblical Equality statement (a statement absolutely saturated in Holy Scripture) include influential scholars such as F.F. Bruce (who was considered the Dean of Evangelical New Testament scholarship, and is a personal hero of mine), Mimi Haddad, Gordon D. Fee, Kevin Giles, Kenneth Kantzer (formerly of TEDS), Richard Longenecker, Aida Spencer, Grant R. Osborne (of TEDS as well), David Scholer (of Fuller), Alvera Mickelson, and Philip B. Payne (who we have recommended many times!). These are giants in evangelical scholarship, and are not people dedicated to the winds of modern cultural trends.It is also worth your time to read a bit about CBE's history:Disturbed by the shallow biblical premise used by churches, organizations, and mission groups to exclude the gifts of women, evangelical leaders assembled in 1987 to publish their biblical perspective in a new scholarly journal, Priscilla Papers. Included in the group were Gilbert Bilezikian, W. Ward Gasque, Stanley Gundry, Gretchen Gaebelein Hull, Catherine Clark Kroeger, Jo Anne Lyon, and Roger Nicole. The group determined that a national organization was needed to provide education, support, and leadership about biblical equality.Roger Nicole, an original signer of the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy and a deeply influential Reformed theologian, saw no issue between his very outspoken egalitarianism and his commitment to the authority of Scripture. Philip B. Payne was also an original signer of the same influential document.Egalitarianism, as argued by all of these brothers and sisters, is grounded firmly in the authority of Holy Scripture.This is why CBE's conferences are so important. Allison and I recorded a video promo for CBE, and if you find it helpful, please share it as well! We'd love to meet and see you in Orlando, FL this July!We would also be deeply grateful if you would share and tweet this podcast to get the word out! Pastor John Piper is a committed Christian and his words have significant influence. Please review us on iTunes (a nice 5 star review gets you a shout out on the air!). Also follow Nick and Allison on twitter for all the tweets!Blessings!N/A

Allison and I originally planned on working through Galatians 3:26-29 (and more specifically through the entire epistle) in this episode, but some interesting events have occurred in the blogosphere that demanded our response.On April 19th, John Piper released a short 10 minute video where he responded to a questioner from the United Kingdom. The questioner asked him about the 'future of male headship' and if it was a 'lost cause.' As can be expected, Piper offered four (one? you'll get it later if you listen to our episode) complementarian reasons why he does not think male headship is a lost cause. You can read/listen to the entire thing <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/is-male-headship-a-lost-cause" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>, and Allison and I figured this would be worth a detailed response. In order to best examine and critique Piper's comments, we had on our first guest, <a href="https://independent.academia.edu/JaminH%C3%BCbner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Jamin Hübner</a>! Dr. Hübner is Director of Institutional Effectiveness and Associate Professor at John Witherspoon College in Rapid City, South Dakota. Dr. Hübner is a graduate of Dordt College (BA Theology), Reformed Theological Seminary (MA Religion), and the University of South Africa (ThD). He has also <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/jamin-h%C3%BCbner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">blogged</a> at Christians for Biblical Equality.Dr. Hübner's works include a book called <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Case-Female-Deacons-Jamin-H%C3%BCbner/dp/1625648847/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1492982226&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=jamin+hubner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Case for Female Deacons </a>(a work we have recommended before) and multiple academic articles on various aspects of the gender debate, including peer-reviewed i<a href="https://www.academia.edu/24894058/Revisiting_%CE%B1%E1%BD%90%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%AD%CF%89_in_1_Timothy_2_12_What_Do_the_Extant_Data_Really_Show" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">n-depth research</a> on the controversial "assume authority" infinitive in 1 Tim 2:12, Bible translation issues regarding <a href="https://www.academia.edu/24894019/Revisiting_the_Clarity_of_Scripture_in_1_Timothy_2_12" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the clarity of Scripture</a> and <a href="https://www.academia.edu/24894103/Translating_%CE%B1%E1%BD%90%CE%B8%CE%B5%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%AD%CF%89_in_1_Timothy_2_12" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">how to translate the same infinitive in 1 Tim 2:12</a>, and the <a href="https://www.academia.edu/24894072/The_Evolution_of_Complementarian_Exegesis" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">history of the evolutionary process</a> of complementarian exegesis. So, as you can see, we were deeply blessed to have such a scholar on our podcast! Plus, he's quite fun to chat with as well, as you will see!The Desiring God video includes a transcript of his response to the questioner, and we invite you to read through it as we discuss in great depth why we all believe John Piper is deeply wrong about this issue. As you will see, egalitarians are not interested in merely accommodating culture. Allison, Dr. Hübner and I all came to our position through rigorous analysis of the Biblical texts and we all profess and live into our commitment to the authority of God's word. Speaking only for myself (Nick), if I thought Scripture said otherwise, I would be a committed complementarian. As such, Scripture gets to dictate my beliefs and I remain a convinced egalitarian.Far from being a 'liberal' movement, both <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/pp291_4eanptloitedna_2.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Mimi Haddad</a> (President of CBE) and <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/equatingfeminisms.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison Quient</a> have shown that egalitarianism is far more rooted in historic evangelicalism than complementarianism. Indeed, a mere perusal of the original signers of the <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/english_3.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christians for Biblical Equality statement </a>(a statement absolutely saturated in Holy Scripture) include influential scholars such as F.F. Bruce (who was considered the Dean of Evangelical New Testament scholarship, and is a personal hero of mine), Mimi Haddad, Gordon D. Fee, Kevin Giles, Kenneth Kantzer (formerly of TEDS), Richard Longenecker, Aida Spencer, Grant R. Osborne (of TEDS as well), David Scholer (of Fuller), Alvera Mickelson, and Philip B. Payne (who we have recommended many times!). These are giants in evangelical scholarship, and are not people dedicated to the winds of modern cultural trends.It is also worth your time to read a bit about CBE's <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/content/cbes-history" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">history</a>:Disturbed by the shallow biblical premise used by churches, organizations, and mission groups to exclude the gifts of women, evangelical leaders assembled in 1987 to publish their biblical perspective in a new scholarly journal, Priscilla Papers. Included in the group were Gilbert Bilezikian, W. Ward Gasque, Stanley Gundry, Gretchen Gaebelein Hull, Catherine Clark Kroeger, Jo Anne Lyon, and Roger Nicole. The group determined that a national organization was needed to provide education, support, and leadership about biblical equality.Roger Nicole, an original signer of the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy and a deeply influential Reformed theologian, saw no issue between his very outspoken egalitarianism and his commitment to the authority of Scripture. Philip B. Payne was also an original signer of the same influential document.Egalitarianism, as argued by all of these brothers and sisters, is grounded firmly in the authority of Holy Scripture.This is why CBE's conferences are so important. Allison and I recorded a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxALyBGd1-M" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">video promo for CBE</a>, and if you find it helpful, please share it as well! We'd love to meet and see you in Orlando, FL this July!We would also be deeply grateful if you would share and tweet this podcast to get the word out! Pastor John Piper is a committed Christian and his words have significant influence. Please review us on iTunes (a nice 5 star review gets you a shout out on the air!). Also follow <a href="http://@NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="http://@AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a> on twitter for all the tweets!Blessings!N/A

9: The Future of "Male Headship" with Jamin Hübner and A Response to John Piper

Michael F. Bird

Michael Bird

This week we talk with Dr. Michael F. Bird, who is Academic Dean and Lecturer in Theology at Ridley College in Australia about Jesus and his view of gender. Mike is a former complementarian who has recently changed his mind on the bible's view of women and we talk about many things in this episode: Jesus and divorce, coffee, Mike's poor taste in drinks, the genderedness of Jesus and soteriology, the issue of sexism and gender dynamics in the classroom, and so on and so forth.Share! Like! Support us on Patreon!

This week we talk with <a href="https://www.ridley.edu.au/about-ridley/ridley-people/faculty/mike-bird/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Michael F. Bird</a>, who is Academic Dean and Lecturer in Theology at Ridley College in Australia about Jesus and his view of gender. Mike is a former complementarian who has recently changed his mind on the bible's view of women and we talk about many things in this episode: Jesus and divorce, coffee, Mike's poor taste in drinks, the genderedness of Jesus and soteriology, the issue of sexism and gender dynamics in the classroom, and so on and so forth.Share! Like! Support us on Patreon!

20: Jesus, Coffee & Gender with Michael Bird

Well Happy New Year!In this episode, Nick and Allison discuss Paul's most neglected treatise on marriage. We discuss sexual ethics, divorce, authority in marriage, and Allison tries a beer. Spoiler: she does not like it. At all. Don't worry, Nick will finally find a beer for her![No he won't]Recommended resources include Ronald W. Pierce's article in Priscilla Papers. You can find it here. It is the best treatment of the text thus far. For academic articles on Priscilla Papers and their archives, see here. Christians for Biblical Equality and the Junia Project are great resources!Follow us on twitter (Nick and Allison) and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes (just search 'split frame of reference'). If you leave us a 5 star review, we will thank you on the podcast! Plus, it helps get our message out!Blessings, and Happy New Years!N/A

Well Happy New Year!In this episode, Nick and Allison discuss Paul's most neglected treatise on marriage. We discuss sexual ethics, divorce, authority in marriage, and Allison tries a beer. Spoiler: she does not like it. At all. Don't worry, Nick will finally find a beer for her![No he won't]Recommended resources include Ronald W. Pierce's article in Priscilla Papers. You can find it <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/First_Pierce.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. It is the best treatment of the text thus far. For academic articles on Priscilla Papers and their archives, see <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/journal/priscilla-papers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christians for Biblical Equality</a> and the <a href="http://juniaproject.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Junia Project</a> are great resources!Follow us on twitter (<a href="https://twitter.com/NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a>) and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes (just search 'split frame of reference'). If you leave us a 5 star review, we will thank you on the podcast! Plus, it helps get our message out!Blessings, and Happy New Years!N/A

5: 1 Corinthians 7, Marriage, Authority and Sexual Ethics

In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with Dr. Mary Conway, a contributor to the upcoming and highly anticipated third edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (DBE3). Dr. Conway is Assistant Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Specifically, Dr. Conway is writing on the following in DBE3:“Gender in Creation: Genesis 1–3.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.“The Treatment of Women under the Mosaic Law.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.Dr. Conway has also done extensive linguistic and theological work in Judges, as you can see on her personal page at McMaster.If you like what we are doing, consider participating with us on creating the greatest egalitarian podcast on earth by becoming a monthly supporter on Patreon! Please share, rate us on iTunes (An honest 5 stars, please!), and tell your friends about this podcast. Thank you for listening and supporting us!

In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with <a href="https://mcmasterdivinity.ca/faculty-and-administration/mary-l-conway/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Mary Conway</a>, a contributor to the upcoming and highly anticipated third edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (DBE3). Dr. Conway is Assistant Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Specifically, Dr. Conway is writing on the following in DBE3:“Gender in Creation: Genesis 1–3.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.“The Treatment of Women under the Mosaic Law.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.Dr. Conway has also done extensive linguistic and theological work in Judges, as you can see on her personal page at McMaster.If you like what we are doing, consider participating with us on creating the greatest egalitarian podcast on earth by becoming a monthly supporter on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>! Please share, rate us on iTunes (An honest 5 stars, please!), and tell your friends about this podcast. Thank you for listening and supporting us!

31: Women and Old Testament Law with Mary Conway

Gricel Medina

Well hey y’all! It’s been a time! In this episode Nick and Allison talk about communal complicity, gender, and abuse with Rev. Gricel Medina. You can find her on social media on Twitter and Instagram. Pastor Gricel is involved in church planting, theological education, community development, and is deeply involved in biblical gender equality. She is ordained in the Evangelical Covenant Church.Go check out her work! A big thank you to our 7 patrons on patreon for their support, and a huge thank you to those who engage and share our work on social media! For those who are more sensitive to topics of abuse, we do discuss a lot of abuse within the context of church and family so we want to give you a heads up on that.

Well hey y’all! It’s been a time! In this episode Nick and Allison talk about communal complicity, gender, and abuse with Rev. Gricel Medina. You can find her on social media on <a href="@pastorgricel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pastorgricel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. Pastor Gricel is involved in church planting, theological education, community development, and is deeply involved in biblical gender equality. She is ordained in the Evangelical Covenant Church.Go check out her work! A big thank you to our 7 patrons on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon</a> for their support, and a huge thank you to those who engage and share our work on social media! For those who are more sensitive to topics of abuse, we do discuss a lot of abuse within the context of church and family so we want to give you a heads up on that.

28: Communal Complicity, Gender, and Race with Rev. Gricel Medina

Follow us on twitter (@NickQuient and @AllisonQuient) and check out our website for blog posts and our patreon! Feel free to share our work if you are moved to do so, and give us an honest 5 star review!Blessings!Nick and Allison--

Follow us on twitter (@NickQuient and @AllisonQuient) and check out our <a href="http://www.splitframeofreference.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">website</a> for blog posts and our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast?alert=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon</a>! Feel free to share our work if you are moved to do so, and give us an honest 5 star review!Blessings!Nick and Allison--

17: Women in and beyond Romans 16

Since this episode won't air on Sunday, Happy Mother's Day! In this episode, we had some fun! We went through a lot of Galatians 1-3 for context, and then worked through the parallel passages of Galatians 3:28, as well as the theology within this verse. We also spent a great deal of time answering some listener questions.If you ever have any questions or comments, feel free to email us.Allison wrote a killer article entitled "A Woman's 'Role' as a First-Born Son: Full Justification in Christ Leads to Full Participation." Other helpful works include Philip Payne's entire article on Galatians 3:28 (starting at p.11 in the pdf), a post by Margaret Mowczko, and a Priscilla Paper's article by Faith Martin.Allison writes:Besides, the earthly implications of being a son or heir and the use of common social divisions, what other reason is there to think Gal 3:28 is practically minded and not limited to a justification that is mainly in spirit? It is also evident in parallel passages. The other similar passages are Colossians 3:11 and the baptismal statement 1 Cor 12:13. Both are applied to practical issues within the church and take on some familiar themes.“Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all” (Col 3:9-11). “Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many” (1 Cor 12:12-14).  Clearly, unity in Christ is tied to practice.Allison's blog post will help answer any additional questions you may have about this passage, as we could not cover every single detail. Thanks for listening! If you would like to help promote the podcast, please retweet this or share us on your social media page, and leave us a (5 star?!) review on iTunes. Thanks and God Bless!N/A

Since this episode won't air on Sunday, Happy Mother's Day! In this episode, we had some fun! We went through a lot of Galatians 1-3 for context, and then worked through the parallel passages of Galatians 3:28, as well as the theology within this verse. We also spent a great deal of time answering some listener questions.If you ever have any questions or comments, feel free to email us.Allison wrote a killer article entitled <a href="http://www.splitframeofreference.com/blog-1/2017/5/14/a-womans-role-full-justification-in-christ-translates-into-full-participation" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"A Woman's 'Role' as a First-Born Son: Full Justification in Christ Leads to Full Participation."</a> Other helpful works include Philip Payne's entire <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/Male-Authority-Context-reprint-web.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">article</a> on Galatians 3:28 (starting at p.11 in the pdf), a <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/blogs/galatians-328-our-identity-christ-and-church" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">post</a> by Margaret Mowczko, and a Priscilla Paper's <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/pp091_1g328_2.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">article</a> by Faith Martin.Allison writes:Besides, the earthly implications of being a son or heir and the use of common social divisions, what other reason is there to think Gal 3:28 is practically minded and not limited to a justification that is mainly in spirit? It is also evident in parallel passages. The other similar passages are Colossians 3:11 and the baptismal statement 1 Cor 12:13. Both are applied to practical issues within the church and take on some familiar themes.“Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all” (Col 3:9-11). “Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many” (1 Cor 12:12-14).  Clearly, unity in Christ is tied to practice.Allison's blog post will help answer any additional questions you may have about this passage, as we could not cover every single detail. Thanks for listening! If you would like to help promote the podcast, please retweet this or share us on your social media page, and leave us a (5 star?!) review on iTunes. Thanks and God Bless!N/A

10: Galatians 3:28 and 'Should I leave my Complementarian Church?'

Follow us on twitter (@NickQuient and @AllisonQuient) and check out our website for blog posts and our patreon! Feel free to share our work if you are moved to do so, and give us an honest 5 star review!Nick &amp; Allison

Follow us on twitter (@NickQuient and @AllisonQuient) and check out our <a href="http://www.splitframeofreference.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">website</a> for blog posts and our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast?alert=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon</a>! Feel free to share our work if you are moved to do so, and give us an honest 5 star review!Nick &amp; Allison

18: Junia

Follow Nick and Allison on twitter! Also, for the few who are interested in Allison’s story about a certain unnamed movie star in this episode, see this episode of The Sinnergists Podcast for the full story. Also, subscribe to that podcast if you like it!

Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/allisonquient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a> on twitter! Also, for the few who are interested in Allison’s story about a certain unnamed movie star in this episode, see this <a href="https://sinnergistspod.com/portfolio/episode-16-starting-with-jesus-and-historical-reliability/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">episode</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/SinnergistsPod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sinnergists Podcast</a> for the full story. Also, subscribe to that podcast if you like it!

24: Deborah and #MeToo

This is a recording of Allison's presentation she gave at Duke Divinity School in mid-August and at the Interdisciplinary Theology Conference in October. Since many of you have inquired about it, we decided to make it a podcast episode for all to enjoy.Most importantly: will Nick get a good jelly bean or a bad one? You'll have to listen and find out.Much thanks to those who have taken the time to rate us on iTunes!So....enjoy!Also, for those who are interested in a more broadly evangelical conference and theological association, see the Canadian-American Theological Association, where Allison and I are both members, and we both presented papers in October!To follow us on twitter, see @NickQuient and @AllisonQuient.Our next episode will center on Romans 1:18-32 and Gender. Should be fun!N/A

This is a recording of Allison's presentation she gave at Duke Divinity School in mid-August and at the Interdisciplinary Theology Conference in October. Since many of you have inquired about it, we decided to make it a podcast episode for all to enjoy.Most importantly: will Nick get a good jelly bean or a bad one? You'll have to listen and find out.Much thanks to those who have taken the time to rate us on iTunes!So....enjoy!Also, for those who are interested in a more broadly evangelical conference and theological association, see the <a href="http://cata-catr.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Canadian-American Theological Association</a>, where Allison and I are both members, and we both presented papers in October!To follow us on twitter, see <a href="https://twitter.com/NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@NickQuient</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@AllisonQuient</a>.Our next episode will center on Romans 1:18-32 and Gender. Should be fun!N/A

14: Eve Christology: Embodiment, Gender & Salvation

Boom! In this episode, we tackle a highly debated text - although we do so with a different edge. While we affirm a fairly traditional reading of Romans 1, we come to some interesting conclusions that affect the evangelical gender debate - in a good way!Nick also eats some gross jelly beans, and Allison sips some fireball whiskey.Nick will someday avenge his honor and his sweet tooth.Enjoy!N/A

Boom! In this episode, we tackle a highly debated text - although we do so with a different edge. While we affirm a fairly traditional reading of Romans 1, we come to some interesting conclusions that affect the evangelical gender debate - in a good way!Nick also eats some gross jelly beans, and Allison sips some fireball whiskey.Nick will someday avenge his honor and his sweet tooth.Enjoy!N/A

15: Gender, Glory and Egalitarianism in Romans 1

Kate Wallace Nunneley

Kate is the Lead Pastor at Wellspring Free Methodist Church in Bakersfield, California &amp; Co-Founder of The Junia Project. As a Christian &amp; feminist, Kate enjoys writing &amp; speaking at the intersection of theology &amp; gender. She loves living in Bakersfield with her husband Leif &amp; their 2 dogs. Kate is currently pursuing her Masters of Divinity at Azusa Pacific Seminary &amp; holds a Master of Science from the London School of Economics &amp; a Bachelor of Arts from Azusa Pacific University. She joins us to talk about the genesis of The Junia Project, pastoral ministry, motherhood, and the power of theology and ministry as a life lived in holy love for God and others. We're so happy she joined us! Check her out also on Twitter (Kate and The Junia Project). You can hear her sermons on the Wellspring page!If you like what we are doing and want to support us, feel free to check out our Patreon!

Kate is the Lead Pastor at <a href="http://wellspringbakersfield.church/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wellspring Free Methodist Church</a> in Bakersfield, California &amp; Co-Founder of <a href="https://juniaproject.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Junia Project</a>. As a Christian &amp; feminist, Kate enjoys writing &amp; speaking at the intersection of theology &amp; gender. She loves living in Bakersfield with her husband Leif &amp; their 2 dogs. Kate is currently pursuing her Masters of Divinity at Azusa Pacific Seminary &amp; holds a Master of Science from the London School of Economics &amp; a Bachelor of Arts from Azusa Pacific University. She joins us to talk about the genesis of The Junia Project, pastoral ministry, motherhood, and the power of theology and ministry as a life lived in holy love for God and others. We're so happy she joined us! Check her out also on Twitter (<a href="https://juniaproject.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kate</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/thejuniaproject" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Junia Project</a>). You can hear her sermons on the Wellspring page!If you like what we are doing and want to support us, feel free to check out our <a href="https://www.patreon.com/splitframepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a>!

30: Kate Wallace Nunneley of The Junia Project

In this episode Nick and Allison talk about the Prophetess Huldah and about basic hermeneutics as they relate to the evangelical gender debate. Much could be said but we limited ourselves to the discussion simply to make things a bit breezy. They also include a discount code at the end of the episode for the Christians for Biblical Equality Conference in Houston, Texas on August 2-4. We hope to meet and see all 'y’all there!

In this episode Nick and Allison talk about the Prophetess Huldah and about basic hermeneutics as they relate to the evangelical gender debate. Much could be said but we limited ourselves to the discussion simply to make things a bit breezy. They also include a discount code at the end of the episode for the <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/content/cbes-2019-international-conference" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christians for Biblical Equality Conference</a> in Houston, Texas on August 2-4. We hope to meet and see all 'y’all there!

25: Huldah and Hermeneutics

Well hello, welcome to our podcast! And blog!In this episode, we talk about the finer points of textual criticism, church fathers, and the various interpretive issues surrounding 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. We argue that the context and textual problems strongly suggest that these two verses are an interpolation.Also, because Nick *makes* Allison drink a beer she doesn't like (at all!), Allison threatens Nick with a furious vengeance. You have the power to determine whether or not Nick suffers. Listen and find out how you must do it.For every 5, Nick eats 1. If this does not make sense, you will need to listen and find out!Recommended resources this week include Payne's work and Craig S. Keener's chapter in Discovering Biblical Equality. For an excellent short sermon article, see Brandon Waite. Follow Nick and Allison on twitter, and give us 5 star reviews on iTunes! That is how we become famous and make millions of dollars. Or something.N/A.

Well hello, welcome to our podcast! And blog!In this episode, we talk about the finer points of textual criticism, church fathers, and the various interpretive issues surrounding 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. We argue that the context and textual problems strongly suggest that these two verses are an interpolation.Also, because Nick *makes* Allison drink a beer she doesn't like (at all!), Allison threatens Nick with a furious vengeance. You have the power to determine whether or not Nick suffers. Listen and find out how you must do it.For every 5, Nick eats 1. If this does not make sense, you will need to listen and find out!Recommended resources this week include Payne's <a href="https://www.pbpayne.com/publications/articles/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">work</a> and Craig S. Keener's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Discovering-Biblical-Equality-Complementarity-Hierarchy/dp/0830828346/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1490506281&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=discovering+biblical+equality" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chapter</a> in Discovering Biblical Equality. For an excellent short sermon article, see <a href="http://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/05-silent.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Brandon Waite</a>. Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NickQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/AllisonQuient" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison</a> on twitter, and give us 5 star reviews on iTunes! That is how we become famous and make millions of dollars. Or something.N/A.

8: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Textual Problems, and Women being Silent

Welcome back!It has been a while, hasn't it?In this episode, Nick and Allison discuss the wide-ranging topic of women in Luke/Acts, touching on various elements of the doctrine of God, the Holy Spirit and Pentecost, how we should read narrative, and commenting on the evangelical tendency to downplay narrative in the quest for 'propositional' truths.Allison also makes Nick (makes, hah!) drink cheap red wine in honor of a certain someone. You can infer who this might be, but we ain't telling.Resources on the topic are vast, but the best English commentary on Luke is by Joel B. Green of Fuller Theological Seminary. A standout commentary that Nick says he reads for fun. A similarly great volume on the theology of Luke is also by Green.Resources more relevant to the topic discussed in this episode include Gospel Women: Studies of Women Named in the Gospels by Richard Bauckham as well as his Jesus and the Eyewitnesses, which makes an appearance in this episode. For a killer article, see Nijay Gupta's excellent contribution in Priscilla Papers on Mary and The Double Message by Turid Karlsen Seim.We hope to see you at the CBE Conference in Orlando! Blessings!Make sure to give us an honest 5 star review on iTunes! :)N/A

Welcome back!It has been a while, hasn't it?In this episode, Nick and Allison discuss the wide-ranging topic of women in Luke/Acts, touching on various elements of the doctrine of God, the Holy Spirit and Pentecost, how we should read narrative, and commenting on the evangelical tendency to downplay narrative in the quest for 'propositional' truths.Allison also makes Nick (makes, hah!) drink cheap red wine in honor of a certain someone. You can infer who this might be, but we ain't telling.Resources on the topic are vast, but the best English commentary on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Luke-International-Commentary-Testament/dp/0802823157" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Luke</a> is by <a href="http://fuller.edu/faculty/jgreen/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Joel B. Green</a> of Fuller Theological Seminary. A standout commentary that Nick says he reads for fun. A similarly great volume on the theology of Luke is also by <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Theology-Gospel-Luke-New-Testament/dp/0521469325/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500167047&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=theology+of+luke+green" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Green</a>.Resources more relevant to the topic discussed in this episode include <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Women-Studies-Named-Gospels/dp/0802849997" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gospel Women: Studies of Women Named in the Gospels</a> by Richard Bauckham as well as his <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Eyewitnesses-Gospels-Eyewitness-Testimony/dp/0802874312/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=3CCQZBZKW9EWYT2QZQET" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus and the Eyewitnesses</a>, which makes an appearance in this episode. For a killer article, see Nijay Gupta's excellent <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/PP293_web%20(Summer%202015).pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">contribution</a> in Priscilla Papers on Mary and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Double-Message-Academic-Paperback/dp/0567082563/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500167401&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=the+double+message+luke%2Facts" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Double Message</a> by Turid Karlsen Seim.We hope to see you at the <a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/content/2017-mutual-design-cbe-international-conference" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CBE Conference</a> in Orlando! Blessings!Make sure to give us an honest 5 star review on iTunes! :)N/A

11: Red Wine, Narrative Hermeneutics, and Women in Luke/Acts

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