Jeff Shinabarger

Six years ago, we set out to answer this question, “Is it possible change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family,” with the goal of interviewing 100 couples, while learning as much we could from others. We did that and more.Thank you for joining us on this journey. The podcast will live on as a resource, and we hope you will continue to use it and share it wth others.In the final episode, we talk about the journey, why this project is coming to an end, and some of our biggest takeaways.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Six years ago, we set out to answer this question, “Is it possible change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family,” with the goal of interviewing 100 couples, while learning as much we could from others. We did that and more.Thank you for joining us on this journey. The podcast will live on as a resource, and we hope you will continue to use it and share it wth <a href="http://others.In" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">others.In</a> the final episode, we talk about the journey, why this project is coming to an end, and some of our biggest takeaways.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

The Finale I Andre & Jeff Shinabarger

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: relationship advice, career reflections, and personal reflections. Andre and Jeff are answering five questions that have been narrowed down from listeners' questions. Andre and Jeff reflect on their own life, relationship, and careers and share insightful advice on how to successfully pursue all three of these categories.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: relationship advice, career reflections, and personal reflections. Andre and Jeff are answering five questions that have been narrowed down from listeners' questions. Andre and Jeff reflect on their own life, relationship, and careers and share insightful advice on how to successfully pursue all three of these categories.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Q & A I Andre & Jeff Shinabarger

In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast we are interviewing Tera and Wes Wages.Tera is the CEO of Connection Codes an organization that helps people get unstuck in their marriages and Wes is the CEO of Armosa Studios, a video/photo marketing company and together they host the “Get It” podcast.  During this interview Tera and Wes are brutally honest and vulnerable with us about their story and struggles throughout their marriage. Make sure to listen out for these two things: America’s Funniest Home Videos and 75 Hard. Use code LOVEORWORK to get 20% off the Foundations Course and www.connectioncodes.co to download the Core Emotion Wheel that Tera Talks about in the episode.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast we are interviewing Tera and Wes Wages.Tera is the CEO of Connection Codes an organization that helps people get unstuck in their marriages and Wes is the CEO of Armosa Studios, a video/photo marketing company and together they host the “Get It” podcast.  During this interview Tera and Wes are brutally honest and vulnerable with us about their story and struggles throughout their marriage. Make sure to listen out for these two things: America’s Funniest Home Videos and 75 Hard. Use code LOVEORWORK to get 20% off the Foundations Course and  <a href="http://www.connectioncodes.co" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.connectioncodes.co</a> to download the Core Emotion Wheel that Tera Talks about in the episode.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

The Wages of Love I Tera & Wes Wages

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger.  In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: when Andre and Jeff have felt love for eachother, six important questions that should be discussed in relationships, and their own answers to these six questions. This episode follows Andre and Jeff reflecting on their relationship, and making the time to have discussions that are often overlooked in daily life. ------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger.  In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: when Andre and Jeff have felt love for eachother, six important questions that should be discussed in relationships, and their own answers to these six questions. This episode follows Andre and Jeff reflecting on their relationship, and making the time to have discussions that are often overlooked in daily life. ------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Checking In l André & Jeff Shinabarger

Dustin Nickerson

This week we are hearing from Dustin and Melissa Nickerson. Dustin Nickerson is a stand-up comedian, and an author who recently published the book “How to Be Married (to Melissa). Melissa Nickerson is the CFO of Dustin Nickerson Comedy. Dustin and Melissa Nickerson co-host a podcast about family, relationships, and comedy called “Don’t Make Me Come Back There”. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: Legoland Sex, posting a vacation picture, and that there’s no losing or failing in marriage and relationships. Dustin and Melissa share their journey from being high-school sweethearts, to navigating through growing individually while still building and maintaining a strong relationship with each other and their family.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from Dustin and Melissa Nickerson. Dustin Nickerson is a stand-up comedian, and an author who recently published the book “How to Be Married (to Melissa). Melissa Nickerson is the CFO of Dustin Nickerson Comedy. Dustin and Melissa Nickerson co-host a podcast about family, relationships, and comedy called “Don’t Make Me Come Back There”. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: Legoland Sex, posting a vacation picture, and that there’s no losing or failing in marriage and relationships. Dustin and Melissa share their journey from being high-school sweethearts, to navigating through growing individually while still building and maintaining a strong relationship with each other and their family.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

How to Stay Married | Melissa & Dustin Nickerson

This week on the Love or Work Podcast, we are learning from Nate and Tuere K. Butler! Nate is a music producer, artist, performer, casting director, and more - a man of many talents. Tuere is the Director of Operations at Plywood People and former District Director working with Congressman Lewis. This couple is full of good stories, wise words, and so much love for each other and their community. Nate and Tuere have supported each other through seasons of job changes and health challenges, and they share their learnings with us candidly. Their life is a reflection of their values - from generosity to service. Lean in, and learn with us!------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week on the Love or Work Podcast, we are learning from Nate and Tuere K. Butler! Nate is a music producer, artist, performer, casting director, and more - a man of many talents. Tuere is the Director of Operations at Plywood People and former District Director working with Congressman Lewis. This couple is full of good stories, wise words, and so much love for each other and their community. Nate and Tuere have supported each other through seasons of job changes and health challenges, and they share their learnings with us candidly. Their life is a reflection of their values - from generosity to service. Lean in, and learn with us!------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Acts of Service I Nate & Tuere K Butler

Andrea Connor

In this episode we are interviewing Allyssa and Andrea, who have been married 26 years. For the first time, we learn about the transgender issue and are challenged by what length are you willing to fall in love with the next version of your partner? They share how their marriage has been strengthened through their changes, even with all the complexities. In this episode we decided to choose to learn from someone different than us and chose to learn through relationship. We always say “You have to continually fall in love with the next version of your partner.” No one exemplifies this difficult commitment more than this interview. We encourage you to tune in if you want to learn a new perspective on commitment.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In this episode we are interviewing Allyssa and Andrea, who have been married 26 years. For the first time, we learn about the transgender issue and are challenged by what length are you willing to fall in love with the next version of your partner? They share how their marriage has been strengthened through their changes, even with all the complexities. In this episode we decided to choose to learn from someone different than us and chose to learn through relationship. We always say “You have to continually fall in love with the next version of your partner.” No one exemplifies this difficult commitment more than this interview. We encourage you to tune in if you want to learn a new perspective on commitment.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Versions on Love I Allyssa & Andrea Connor

Ashley Carr

This week we are hearing from Megan and Ashley Carr. Megan is a 7th grade science teacher and Ashley is an Episcopal Priest. Ashley and Megan share about their love story, which in true Atlanta fashion starts off at Taqueria De Sol. Now with a 2 year old and a baby on the way, Ashley and Megan share what life looks like now. Look out for these 3 things, solo time, being a pastor’s kid, and the family with the three legged dog.  Let’s get to it! ------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from Megan and Ashley Carr. Megan is a 7th grade science teacher and Ashley is an Episcopal Priest. Ashley and Megan share about their love story, which in true Atlanta fashion starts off at Taqueria De Sol. Now with a 2 year old and a baby on the way, Ashley and Megan share what life looks like now. Look out for these 3 things, solo time, being a pastor’s kid, and the family with the three legged dog.  Let’s get to it! ------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

From Then to Now I Megan & Ashley Carr

B.T. Harman

This week we are hearing from B.T. Harman. B.T. Harman is the Creator of the Blue Babies Pink Podcast, where he shares his journey of being a gay Christian in the American South. He is also the founder of Harbor, an online support program for Christian parents of LGBTQ kids. In this episode you can listen out for these three things: what to do when a loved one comes out as a part of the LGBTQ community, how to have real conversations with people you love, and how to support your loved ones in their coming out journey. B.T. Harman offers advice to parents and others who are supporting their loved ones to explore and identify themselves on the LGBTQ spectrum, as well as, share his own personal story of coming out.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from B.T. Harman. B.T. Harman is the Creator of the Blue Babies Pink Podcast, where he shares his journey of being a gay Christian in the American South. He is also the founder of Harbor, an online support program for Christian parents of LGBTQ kids. In this episode you can listen out for these three things: what to do when a loved one comes out as a part of the LGBTQ community, how to have real conversations with people you love, and how to support your loved ones in their coming out journey. B.T. Harman offers advice to parents and others who are supporting their loved ones to explore and identify themselves on the LGBTQ spectrum, as well as, share his own personal story of coming out.------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Supporting the LGBTQ Community | B.T. Harman

This week we are hearing from  Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty and Propaganda. Dr. Alma is a university professor and author of “Chingona: Owning Your Inner Badass for Healing and Justice”. Prop is a rapper, activist, author of “Terraform: Building a Better World”, and founder of Terraform Cold Brew Coffee. Alma and Prop discuss navigating their personal careers and goals while simultaneously balancing raising their family and growing their relationship with each other. Tune in!------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.Order the Love or Work Book!Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we are hearing from  Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty and Propaganda. Dr. Alma is a university professor and author of “Chingona: Owning Your Inner Badass for Healing and Justice”. Prop is a rapper, activist, author of “Terraform: Building a Better World”, and founder of Terraform Cold Brew Coffee. Alma and Prop discuss navigating their personal careers and goals while simultaneously balancing raising their family and growing their relationship with each other. Tune in!------------Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-Work-Possible-Change-Healthy/dp/0310358302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Order the Love or Work Book!</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.comhome/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://good.www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

The Balance of Love l Prop & Alma

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by André Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and André learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

I love the natural flow of this show and the hosts ask really great questions that people always want to know, but are afraid to ask!

Great conversations!

Jeff and Andre bring such a good mix of fun and serious questions and dialouge with all their guests. The couples interviewed vary in all different ways of backgrounds and lifestyles. It is so helpful to hear how others walk thru marriage and the tensions of work, family and wanting to make an impact on the world! So encouraged by this podcast and thankful it is a resource right now in my life!!!! &lt;3

So Good! Never miss it!

Love or Work

Andy Mineo

This week we interviewed hip hop artist Andy Mineo (Hip Hop Artist) and his wife Cristina (Entrepreneur). They talk about sex, confidence and sexual liberation with your partner. We also talk about the difficulty in finding your purpose, thinking outside of social norms and how to get unstuck creatively. We hope this episode helps keep things hot and spicy in the bedroom! They are real, they are honest and so fun!!To learn more:http://andymineo.com/https://minerleague.storehttp://uncuratedco.com/ Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

This week we interviewed hip hop artist Andy Mineo (Hip Hop Artist) and his wife Cristina (Entrepreneur). They talk about sex, confidence and sexual liberation with your partner. We also talk about the difficulty in finding your purpose, thinking outside of social norms and how to get unstuck creatively. We hope this episode helps keep things hot and spicy in the bedroom! They are real, they are honest and so fun!!To learn more: <a href="http://andymineo.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://andymineo.com/</a> <a href="https://minerleague.store/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://minerleague.store</a> <a href="http://uncuratedco.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://uncuratedco.com/</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Sex and Work | Cristina + Andy Mineo

Laurie Watson

Sex. We all do it. Most want to do more of it, and we all have a difficult time talking about it. In episode 42, Jeff and Andre interview Laurie Watson, a sex therapist with 30 years of experience, Author and Co-Host of 'Foreplay: Radio Sex Therapy.' For about three weeks, we collected questions from our listeners, and Laurie answers all of them without hesitation. We'll learn about all the things, from the number of times per week that is considered healthy to vibrators to how to overcome a mental block to reach orgasm. We won't say this episode covers it ALL, but it's pretty close. Our hope in this episode is to help normalize a conversation that can be difficult. We want to empower each of you to enter your partnerships with confidence and maybe some tips and tricks to maintain a healthy relationship. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Learn more about the Laurie and her work: https://awakeningscenter.org/ Find a Sex Therapist: https://awakeningscenter.org/services/telethealth/ Listen to the Foreplay Podcast: https://awakeningscenter.org/resources/foreplay-radio-sex-therapy/ Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Sex. We all do it. Most want to do more of it, and we all have a difficult time talking about it. In episode 42, Jeff and Andre interview Laurie Watson, a sex therapist with 30 years of experience, Author and Co-Host of 'Foreplay: Radio Sex Therapy.' For about three weeks, we collected questions from our listeners, and Laurie answers all of them without hesitation. We'll learn about all the things, from the number of times per week that is considered healthy to vibrators to how to overcome a mental block to reach orgasm. We won't say this episode covers it ALL, but it's pretty close. Our hope in this episode is to help normalize a conversation that can be difficult. We want to empower each of you to enter your partnerships with confidence and maybe some tips and tricks to maintain a healthy relationship. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Learn more about the Laurie and her work: <a href="https://awakeningscenter.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://awakeningscenter.org/</a> Find a Sex Therapist: <a href="https://awakeningscenter.org/services/telethealth/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://awakeningscenter.org/services/telethealth/</a> Listen to the Foreplay Podcast: <a href="https://awakeningscenter.org/resources/foreplay-radio-sex-therapy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://awakeningscenter.org/resources/foreplay-radio-sex-therapy/</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Sex Therapy with an Expert | Laurie Watson

Jeff Foxworthy

To start 2019, Jeff and Andre are interviewing Jeff + Gregg Foxworthy, married for 33 years! Jeff is a world-renowned comedian, outdoorsman, and creator of the best-selling game 'Relative Insanity.' Gregg is a former actress and teammate to Jeff. In this episode, we learn about their love story, the good, the bad, and the ugly of being self-employed, and all things redneck. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Learn more about Jeff + Gregg: http://www.jefffoxworthy.com/ Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

To start 2019, Jeff and Andre are interviewing Jeff + Gregg Foxworthy, married for 33 years! Jeff is a world-renowned comedian, outdoorsman, and creator of the best-selling game 'Relative Insanity.' Gregg is a former actress and teammate to Jeff. In this episode, we learn about their love story, the good, the bad, and the ugly of being self-employed, and all things redneck. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Learn more about Jeff + Gregg: <a href="http://www.jefffoxworthy.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.jefffoxworthy.com/</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Marriage is Funny | Gregg + Jeff Foxworthy

Aaron Niequist

In this episode, we interviewed Aaron and Shauna Niequist! Aaron is a musician and author of the book "The Eternal Current." Shauna is a New York Times best-selling author of the book "Present Over Perfect." They are opposites in every way, yet respect and love their differences. They have learned how an extrovert and introvert can work together. They share their story about saying yes to OPRAH, which meant saying no to something else really important. We also learn how from this duo on how to make realistic assessments of what a 'yes' decision means, for everyone involved. The Niequists have also changed the idea of a successful day to be more about connection than accomplishing tasks and valuing the things in life that are unique to only what you can do. Join us this week as we celebrate ONE year of the Love or Work Podcast, as we continue to learn from others and ask the hard questions. We will be sharing a giveaway on Instagram this week. Find us @loveorwork! To learn more about Aaron + Shauna: https://www.shaunaniequist.com/ https://www.aaronniequist.com Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In this episode, we interviewed Aaron and Shauna Niequist! Aaron is a musician and author of the book "The Eternal Current." Shauna is a New York Times best-selling author of the book "Present Over Perfect." They are opposites in every way, yet respect and love their differences. They have learned how an extrovert and introvert can work together. They share their story about saying yes to OPRAH, which meant saying no to something else really important. We also learn how from this duo on how to make realistic assessments of what a 'yes' decision means, for everyone involved. The Niequists have also changed the idea of a successful day to be more about connection than accomplishing tasks and valuing the things in life that are unique to only what you can do. Join us this week as we celebrate ONE year of the Love or Work Podcast, as we continue to learn from others and ask the hard questions. We will be sharing a giveaway on Instagram this week. Find us @loveorwork! To learn more about Aaron + Shauna: <a href="https://www.shaunaniequist.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.shaunaniequist.com/</a> <a href="https://www.aaronniequist.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.aaronniequist.com</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Opposites Attract | Shauna + Aaron Niequist

Ben Bohannon

Liz and Ben Bohannon are co-founders of Sseko Designs. They work side by side every day. We can all imagine the challenges that come with that. Liz and Ben share about the balance to turn work off, while keeping an openness to “have a work thought.” They share rhythms they have found helpful when travel separates them. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. www.loveorwork.com www.instagram.com/loveorwork Follow Sseko: https://ssekodesigns.com www.instagram.com/ssekodesigns Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Liz and Ben Bohannon are co-founders of Sseko Designs. They work side by side every day. We can all imagine the challenges that come with that. Liz and Ben share about the balance to turn work off, while keeping an openness to “have a work thought.” They share rhythms they have found helpful when travel separates them. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Follow Sseko: <a href="https://ssekodesigns.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://ssekodesigns.com</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/ssekodesigns" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/ssekodesigns</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Co-Owners, Work Travel and Imperfection | Liz & Ben Bohannon

Henry Cloud

On Episode 53, we talk with Tori and Dr. Henry Cloud. Tori is a nAuthor + Philanthropist and Psychologist, Consultant and Author. Dr. Cloud is most famous for his book called “Boundaries”, which has sold more than 4 million copies. “Boundaries define what is me and what is not me.” We talk about boundaries in relationships and how building in structure within your marriage and family creates healthy boundaries. They share about the importance of being responsible for our own needs and not blaming others for our disappointments. Natural consequences are a value that they hold as a family and how over-parenting and parenting out of your fears can be a detriment to your children. We even discuss Dr. Clouds book “How To Get a Date Worth Keeping” and get his advice about dating. He thinks singles need to let go of a certain “type,” change their traffic patterns and up their dating numbers. This is an episode for those that are married or single—so listen today! Use the promo code PLYWOOD for one free month of coaching on Boundaries from www.boundaries.me or one free month of leadership coaching from LeadU.tv To learn more: https://www.boundaries.me/ https://leadu.tv/ Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

On Episode 53, we talk with Tori and Dr. Henry Cloud. Tori is a nAuthor + Philanthropist and Psychologist, Consultant and Author. Dr. Cloud is most famous for his book called “Boundaries”, which has sold more than 4 million copies. “Boundaries define what is me and what is not me.” We talk about boundaries in relationships and how building in structure within your marriage and family creates healthy boundaries. They share about the importance of being responsible for our own needs and not blaming others for our disappointments. Natural consequences are a value that they hold as a family and how over-parenting and parenting out of your fears can be a detriment to your children. We even discuss Dr. Clouds book “How To Get a Date Worth Keeping” and get his advice about dating. He thinks singles need to let go of a certain “type,” change their traffic patterns and up their dating numbers. This is an episode for those that are married or single—so listen today! Use the promo code PLYWOOD for one free month of coaching on Boundaries from <a href="http://www.boundaries.me" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.boundaries.me</a> or one free month of leadership coaching from <a href="http://LeadU.tv" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LeadU.tv</a> To learn more: <a href="https://www.boundaries.me/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.boundaries.me/</a> <a href="https://leadu.tv/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://leadu.tv/</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Boundaries | Tori + Dr. Henry Cloud

Zac Allen

Jennie and Zac are both visionaries and entrepreneurs. Jennie is founder of the if:Gathering and an author. Zac is a serial entrepreneur. In this episode, the Allens share some of their secrets of how they make it ALL work in a family who each have their own BIG dreams. They talk about taking turns when starting something new, being “dream releasers” and how to keep pursuing your dreams even when it feels impossible. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Learn more about Jennie and Zac: https://www.jennieallen.com/ http://www.5tglobal.org Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Jennie and Zac are both visionaries and entrepreneurs. Jennie is founder of the if:Gathering and an author. Zac is a serial entrepreneur. In this episode, the Allens share some of their secrets of how they make it ALL work in a family who each have their own BIG dreams. They talk about taking turns when starting something new, being “dream releasers” and how to keep pursuing your dreams even when it feels impossible. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Learn more about Jennie and Zac: <a href="https://www.jennieallen.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.jennieallen.com/</a> <a href="http://www.5tglobal.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.5tglobal.org</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Visionaries, Entrepreneurs and Dream Releasers | Jennie + Zac Allen

Jarrett Stevens

This week, we interview Jarrett and Jeanne Stevens! These dear friends have been married for 23 years and have so much wisdom packed into this episode! They share about how productivity can replace intimacy, how you can run hard and forget to rest, and the importance of learning to exercise your “no muscle.” They didn’t hold back in sharing their life changing moments in their marriage, which was vulnerable and beautiful. Lastly, we learned a new phrase: “the clean agreement.” You don’t want to miss this one!Pre-order Jarrett’s book coming out in January here: PRAYING THROUGHWelcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

This week, we interview Jarrett and Jeanne Stevens! These dear friends have been married for 23 years and have so much wisdom packed into this episode! They share about how productivity can replace intimacy, how you can run hard and forget to rest, and the importance of learning to exercise your “no muscle.” They didn’t hold back in sharing their life changing moments in their marriage, which was vulnerable and beautiful. Lastly, we learned a new phrase: “the clean agreement.” You don’t want to miss this one!Pre-order Jarrett’s book coming out in January here: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Praying-Through-Overcoming-Obstacles-That/dp/1631469819" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PRAYING THROUGH</a>Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Productivity and Intimacy | Jeanne + Jarrett Stevens

Jeremy Cowart

In this episode, you meet Jeremy, an internationally acclaimed Photographer and Founder of the Purpose Hotel and Shannon, a Realtor in Nashville. The Cowarts’ lives are full, between four kids, launching a hotel, and keeping sanity. These two speak to how to create more margin in life while still going after BIG goals. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. www.loveorwork.com www.instagram.com/loveorwork Learn more about The Purpose Hotel: https://www.thepurposehotel.com/ https://www.instagram.com/thepurposehotel/ Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In this episode, you meet Jeremy, an internationally acclaimed Photographer and Founder of the Purpose Hotel and Shannon, a Realtor in Nashville. The Cowarts’ lives are full, between four kids, launching a hotel, and keeping sanity. These two speak to how to create more margin in life while still going after BIG goals. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Learn more about The Purpose Hotel: <a href="https://www.thepurposehotel.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thepurposehotel.com/</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thepurposehotel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/thepurposehotel/</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Purpose Hotel, Adoption and Family Rhythms | Shannon + Jeremy Cowart

Kitti Murray

Bill and Kitti Murray have been married for 40 years. Bill is a Life Coach and Kitti is the founder of Refuge Coffee. They have persevered through many challenges including a cancer diagnosis, raising four boys, and starting a coffee truck. In this episode, we are encouraged to become an expert on what refreshes our spouse, we are challenged by the reality of in sickness and health, and we see the obstacles of what it takes to launch a non-profit. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. www.loveorwork.com www.instagram.com/loveorwork Learn more about Refuge Coffee: http://refugecoffeeco.com/ www.instagram.com/refugecoffeeco Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Bill and Kitti Murray have been married for 40 years. Bill is a Life Coach and Kitti is the founder of Refuge Coffee. They have persevered through many challenges including a cancer diagnosis, raising four boys, and starting a coffee truck. In this episode, we are encouraged to become an expert on what refreshes our spouse, we are challenged by the reality of in sickness and health, and we see the obstacles of what it takes to launch a non-profit. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Learn more about Refuge Coffee: <a href="http://refugecoffeeco.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://refugecoffeeco.com/</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/refugecoffeeco" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/refugecoffeeco</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Intimacy, Parenting Boys and Cancer | Bill + Kitti Murray

Meet Brett, Producer at CNN, and B.T. Harman, creator of Blue Babies Pink. As our journey continues, this episode takes a slightly different and important perspective from newlyweds and thought leaders in the LGBTQ community. We learned some incredible advice for any parent who has a gay child. They talk about selflessness being the most important attribute in making marriage work. They challenged us with their thoughtfulness and we hope you will open your heart to learning from them as well. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Learn more about B.T. and Brett: https://www.bluebabiespink.com/ https://btharman.com/ https://mailchi.mp/c61a195a08e4/the54321 Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Meet Brett, Producer at CNN, and B.T. Harman, creator of Blue Babies Pink. As our journey continues, this episode takes a slightly different and important perspective from newlyweds and thought leaders in the LGBTQ community. We learned some incredible advice for any parent who has a gay child. They talk about selflessness being the most important attribute in making marriage work. They challenged us with their thoughtfulness and we hope you will open your heart to learning from them as well. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Learn more about B.T. and Brett: <a href="https://www.bluebabiespink.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.bluebabiespink.com/</a> <a href="https://btharman.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://btharman.com/</a> <a href="https://mailchi.mp/c61a195a08e4/the54321" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://mailchi.mp/c61a195a08e4/the54321</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Love Wins | Brett + B.T. Harman

Jason DeMeo

This creative couple married young and started an innovation studio called: We Are Curio. They share about how they have had to throw away traditional gender roles and instead do what they each are good at. As a creative, Jason talks about the importance of managing his energy by scheduling his time so he can stay healthy inside the hustle and grind of life. They remind us that we each get to write our story of love and work and family. These two give such practical advice that opens the door to more freedom and creativity in your partnership. Enjoy!!To learn more: https://www.wearecurio.com/Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

This creative couple married young and started an innovation studio called: We Are Curio. They share about how they have had to throw away traditional gender roles and instead do what they each are good at. As a creative, Jason talks about the importance of managing his energy by scheduling his time so he can stay healthy inside the hustle and grind of life. They remind us that we each get to write our story of love and work and family. These two give such practical advice that opens the door to more freedom and creativity in your partnership. Enjoy!!To learn more: <a href="https://www.wearecurio.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.wearecurio.com/</a>Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Freedom and Creativity in Your Relationship | Hillary + Jason DeMeo

Chris Heuertz

In this episode of Love or Work, we have the opportunity to learn from Chris and Phileena Heuertz, Founders of Gravity, a center for contemplative activism. Chris helped launch South Asia’s first pediatric AIDS care home — creating a safe haven for children. Phileena has spent her life doing social justice work among the world’s poor. As a couple, Chris and Phileena served with the Word Made Flesh community for nearly 20 years, working for women and children victimized by human traffickers in the commercial sex industry. Then in 2012, they founded Gravity. This duo has devoted their lives to others, and they share about making the choice to not have children. It wasn't a decision made out of selfishness; it was a decision made over years, full of hard conversations, grief and so much more. Also, in this episode, we get into the Enneagram! Chris is the author of the Sacred Enneagram, so we had to dive in with an expert. Phileena, who wrote Mindful Silence, helps us understand the importance of mediation and contemplation as an essential practice to know ourselves and improve our relationships. To learn more: https://gravitycenter.com/sacredenneagram/ https://gravitycenter.com/mindfulsilence/ https://vimeo.com/ondemand/mindfulsilence Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In this episode of Love or Work, we have the opportunity to learn from Chris and Phileena Heuertz, Founders of Gravity, a center for contemplative activism. Chris helped launch South Asia’s first pediatric AIDS care home — creating a safe haven for children. Phileena has spent her life doing social justice work among the world’s poor. As a couple, Chris and Phileena served with the Word Made Flesh community for nearly 20 years, working for women and children victimized by human traffickers in the commercial sex industry. Then in 2012, they founded Gravity. This duo has devoted their lives to others, and they share about making the choice to not have children. It wasn't a decision made out of selfishness; it was a decision made over years, full of hard conversations, grief and so much more. Also, in this episode, we get into the Enneagram! Chris is the author of the Sacred Enneagram, so we had to dive in with an expert. Phileena, who wrote Mindful Silence, helps us understand the importance of mediation and contemplation as an essential practice to know ourselves and improve our relationships. To learn more: <a href="https://gravitycenter.com/sacredenneagram/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gravitycenter.com/sacredenneagram/</a> <a href="https://gravitycenter.com/mindfulsilence/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gravitycenter.com/mindfulsilence/</a> <a href="https://vimeo.com/ondemand/mindfulsilence" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/ondemand/mindfulsilence</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Enneagram and Choosing No Kids | Phileena + Chris Heuertz

Chris Carneal

In episode 62, Meet Lyndie and Chris Carneal! They are the Founders of Booster, a school fundraising company on a mission to change the world through character development and unique programming. Chris and Lyndie have been married for 17 years. Chris first noticed Lyndie in 8th grade, and they solidified their friendship through college. The duo now has four kids and they live a life of intentional purpose, from the goals they set together (ie: the 150 meals) to the Life Excel spreadsheet they share (don't worry, we will get into that). Chris and Lyndie are incredibly fun, together and separate. They share with us all what it's like when one person in a couple is high intensity and programs out most aspects of their life, while the other needs a little more downtime. It's incredibly relatable, and we think you'll be encouraged and challenged in this episode!  To learn more:https://boosterthon.com/ Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

In episode 62, Meet Lyndie and Chris Carneal! They are the Founders of Booster, a school fundraising company on a mission to change the world through character development and unique programming. Chris and Lyndie have been married for 17 years. Chris first noticed Lyndie in 8th grade, and they solidified their friendship through college. The duo now has four kids and they live a life of intentional purpose, from the goals they set together (ie: the 150 meals) to the Life Excel spreadsheet they share (don't worry, we will get into that). Chris and Lyndie are incredibly fun, together and separate. They share with us all what it's like when one person in a couple is high intensity and programs out most aspects of their life, while the other needs a little more downtime. It's incredibly relatable, and we think you'll be encouraged and challenged in this episode!  To learn more: <a href="https://boosterthon.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://boosterthon.com/</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Being Intentional | Lyndie + Chris Carneal

Gabe Lyons

In Episode 59, Jeff and André talk with old friends, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Gabe is a speaker, author and Founder and President of Q Ideas, which is a platform that works towards restoring the credibility and image of Christianity. Rebekah is also a speaker, Founder of Q Ideas, and a bestselling author. Her new book, Rhythms of Renewal, calls us to “trade stress and anxiety for a life full of peace and purpose.” Rebekah and Gabe recently released a podcast called: The Rhythms for Life Podcast. Check it out! In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast, They propel one another to hustle out their dreams but push for oneness while in the process. Listen to Gabe and Rebekah share their journey of raising four kids, overcoming a life of anxiety, and having an engaging marriage that leads to unity in their decisions. To learn more: https://qideas.org/ Good Faith https://rebekahlyons.com/ Rhythms and Renewal Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

In Episode 59, Jeff and André talk with old friends, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Gabe is a speaker, author and Founder and President of Q Ideas, which is a platform that works towards restoring the credibility and image of Christianity. Rebekah is also a speaker, Founder of Q Ideas, and a bestselling author. Her new book, Rhythms of Renewal, calls us to “trade stress and anxiety for a life full of peace and purpose.” Rebekah and Gabe recently released a podcast called: The Rhythms for Life Podcast. Check it out! In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast, They propel one another to hustle out their dreams but push for oneness while in the process. Listen to Gabe and Rebekah share their journey of raising four kids, overcoming a life of anxiety, and having an engaging marriage that leads to unity in their decisions. To learn more: <a href="https://qideas.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://qideas.org/</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Faith-Christian-Society-Irrelevant/dp/0801013178" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Good Faith</a> <a href="https://rebekahlyons.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rebekahlyons.com/</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rhythms-Renewal-Trading-Anxiety-Purpose/dp/0310356148/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rebekah+lyons&amp;qid=1567175747&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rhythms and Renewal</a> Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Hustle, Anxiety and Rhythms  | Rebekah + Gabe Lyons

This week Jeff and Andre discuss an article from the Harvard Business Review written by Jennifer Petriglieri, who also wrote the book Couples that Work. Dual career couples are on the rise. Now 63% of couples with kids both partners work. There is little guidance for these couples, and Jeff and Andre want to talk about it. They discuss the three transition points that every couple must face throughout their working years. This podcast is for couples in every age and stage. We promise you will learn something new!The HBR article: How Dual-Career Couples Make It Work:https://hbr.org/2019/09/power-couplesThe book: Couples that Work:https://www.amazon.com/dp/163369724X/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_.TFRDbSVEVWQD

This week Jeff and Andre discuss an article from the Harvard Business Review written by Jennifer Petriglieri, who also wrote the book Couples that Work. Dual career couples are on the rise. Now 63% of couples with kids both partners work. There is little guidance for these couples, and Jeff and Andre want to talk about it. They discuss the three transition points that every couple must face throughout their working years. This podcast is for couples in every age and stage. We promise you will learn something new!The HBR article: How Dual-Career Couples Make It Work: <a href="https://hbr.org/2019/09/power-couples" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://hbr.org/2019/09/power-couples</a>The book: Couples that Work: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/163369724X/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_.TFRDbSVEVWQD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/163369724X/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_.TFRDbSVEVWQD</a>

Dual Career Couples | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger

Chris Norton

In Episode 68, we hear from Emily and Chris Norton. He had a 3% chance of ever walking again...and he did.. for 7 yards. She walked those Seven Longest Yards by his side. This is their story. A story about learning that your lowest moments can be the source of your greatest gifts.They are trying to change the stigma of mental health issues and talk about the importance of getting help. Her story of depression is a beautiful example of learning herself and finding faith again.Also, if you are interested in foster care or adoption, their story will inspire hope. You really don’t want to miss this amazing couple’s story.To learn more:- The Seven Longest Yards: Our Love Story of Pushing the Limits while Leaning on Each Other- 7 Yards Movie TrailerFor speaking inquiries:chrisnorton.orgWelcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

In Episode 68, we hear from Emily and Chris Norton. He had a 3% chance of ever walking again...and he did.. for 7 yards. She walked those Seven Longest Yards by his side. This is their story. A story about learning that your lowest moments can be the source of your greatest gifts.They are trying to change the stigma of mental health issues and talk about the importance of getting help. Her story of depression is a beautiful example of learning herself and finding faith again.Also, if you are interested in foster care or adoption, their story will inspire hope. You really don’t want to miss this amazing couple’s story.To learn more: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/031035692X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xAAUDb2NT62M6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">- The Seven Longest Yards: Our Love Story of Pushing the Limits while Leaning on Each Othe</a>r<a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-qWkNlzWmsU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">- 7 Yards Movie Trailer</a>For speaking inquiries: <a href="chrisnorton.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chrisnorton.org</a>Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

The Seven Longest Yards | Emily + Chris Norton

Sarah Dubbeldam

Meet Sarah + Steve Dubbeldam. Sarah is the founder of Darling Media, which is dedicated to exploring the complexities of the art of being a woman, through digital and printed media while being committed to leaving women untouched. Steve is the Founder and CEO of Wilderness Collective, which inspires character development through exploration via adventure experiences, films, and printed magazines. Both Sarah and Steve have partnered with brands like Nike, Lululemon, Aerie, Alaska Airlines and so many more. In this duo, both are entrepreneurs and seekers of adventures. They challenge us to pick up our kids and show them the world. We shouldn't let our fear or all of the luggage, that comes with travel, stop us! Steve and Sarah also share their creative processes with us. We hope you'll dive in with us! Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Learn more about Steve and Sarah's work: https://darlingmagazine.org/ https://wildernesscollective.com Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Meet Sarah + Steve Dubbeldam. Sarah is the founder of Darling Media, which is dedicated to exploring the complexities of the art of being a woman, through digital and printed media while being committed to leaving women untouched. Steve is the Founder and CEO of Wilderness Collective, which inspires character development through exploration via adventure experiences, films, and printed magazines. Both Sarah and Steve have partnered with brands like Nike, Lululemon, Aerie, Alaska Airlines and so many more. In this duo, both are entrepreneurs and seekers of adventures. They challenge us to pick up our kids and show them the world. We shouldn't let our fear or all of the luggage, that comes with travel, stop us! Steve and Sarah also share their creative processes with us. We hope you'll dive in with us! Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Learn more about Steve and Sarah's work: <a href="https://darlingmagazine.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://darlingmagazine.org/</a> <a href="https://wildernesscollective.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wildernesscollective.com</a> Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

The Creative Process | Steve + Sarah Dubbeldam

Josh Robinson

Listen up! This week we are talking to Susan + Josh Robinson. They've known each other since they were 19 and 20. Josh left a corporate job and took the risk to start a creative agency while Susan stayed home to love and support the kids and the people around her. They've grown up and become adults together. In the episode, we get into love stories, the feelings wheel, adoption, and so much more. Josh + Susan love people well. Stay tuned and enjoy! Learn with us. To learn more:http://feelingswheel.com/http://myfriendsnephew.ishttps://www.hellosusanrobinson.com/Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: www.loveorwork.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/loveorworkLove or Work is a project of Plywood People.Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.www.plywoodpeople.com

Listen up! This week we are talking to Susan + Josh Robinson. They've known each other since they were 19 and 20. Josh left a corporate job and took the risk to start a creative agency while Susan stayed home to love and support the kids and the people around her. They've grown up and become adults together. In the episode, we get into love stories, the feelings wheel, adoption, and so much more. Josh + Susan love people well. Stay tuned and enjoy! Learn with us. To learn more: <a href="http://feelingswheel.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://feelingswheel.com/</a> <a href="http://myfriendsnephew.is/#/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://myfriendsnephew.is</a> <a href="https://www.hellosusanrobinson.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.hellosusanrobinson.com/</a>Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a>Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Name Your Feelings | Susan + Josh Robinson

Jeremy Courtney

“Our number one responsibility is to raise high-functioning, intelligent, nuanced, loving, service-oriented adults. I think that’s what we’re really trying to do. And we think there might be an inverse correlation between safety and how we want to raise our kids to be, if we want to raise our kids in the name of protection and then suddenly expect them to flip a switch at 21 or 26 and become service-orientated, loving, nuanced, kind, worldly, and the best sense of culture and open to other ideas.” Jeremy and Jess Courtney of Preemptive Love talk about how relationships change language, what they learned about how other families do life while living amongst another culture, and how being hopeful is a lot easier when you’re closer to the problem. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: www.loveorwork.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork To learn more about Preemptive Love: https://preemptivelove.org/ Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

“Our number one responsibility is to raise high-functioning, intelligent, nuanced, loving, service-oriented adults. I think that’s what we’re really trying to do. And we think there might be an inverse correlation between safety and how we want to raise our kids to be, if we want to raise our kids in the name of protection and then suddenly expect them to flip a switch at 21 or 26 and become service-orientated, loving, nuanced, kind, worldly, and the best sense of culture and open to other ideas.” Jeremy and Jess Courtney of Preemptive Love talk about how relationships change language, what they learned about how other families do life while living amongst another culture, and how being hopeful is a lot easier when you’re closer to the problem. Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting. Website: <a href="http://www.loveorwork.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.loveorwork.com</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/loveorwork" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/loveorwork</a> To learn more about Preemptive Love: <a href="https://preemptivelove.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://preemptivelove.org/</a> Love or Work is a project of Plywood People. Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. <a href="http://www.plywoodpeople.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.plywoodpeople.com</a>

Preemptive Love | Jessica + Jeremy Courtney

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