Suicide Silence guitarist Mark Heylmun on psychedelics, Catholicism, the occult, creative hiatuses, the making of the band’s self-titled album with Ross Robinson, losing a close friend in high school, the death of frontman Mitch Lucker, the band's subsequent rebirth, the ego, and much more. Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Suicide Silence guitarist Mark Heylmun on psychedelics, Catholicism, the occult, creative hiatuses, the making of the band’s self-titled album with Ross Robinson, losing a close friend in high school, the death of frontman Mitch Lucker, the band's subsequent rebirth, the ego, and much more. Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Mark Heylmun (Suicide Silence)

Karl Sanders

NILE frontman Karl Sanders talks ancient Egypt, his meditative and transcendental solo work, several of the books and ideas that shaped him, and more. "A lot of the [religious] options available to us are restrictive by nature," he explains. "I gravitated to the [ancient] Egyptians because you know what? When those guys did religion, they imagined big." Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

NILE frontman Karl Sanders talks ancient Egypt, his meditative and transcendental solo work, several of the books and ideas that shaped him, and more. "A lot of the [religious] options available to us are restrictive by nature," he explains. "I gravitated to the [ancient] Egyptians because you know what? When those guys did religion, they imagined big." Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Karl Sanders (Nile) 

Bill Fisher

Church Of The Cosmic Skull founder Bill Fisher's seven-piece, vocal-harmony-and-Hammond-organ heavy, English prog/psych/rock outfit fashions itself as a spiritual organization dedicated to “The Seven Objects,” which includes instructions to “recognize the hallucinatory nature of reality,” “celebrate and uphold the freedom of art, science and thought,” “meet mistakes with forgiveness and determination,” and “maintain focus on the unity of all living beings.” Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Church Of The Cosmic Skull founder Bill Fisher's seven-piece, vocal-harmony-and-Hammond-organ heavy, English prog/psych/rock outfit fashions itself as a spiritual organization dedicated to “The Seven Objects,” which includes instructions to “recognize the hallucinatory nature of reality,” “celebrate and uphold the freedom of art, science and thought,” “meet mistakes with forgiveness and determination,” and “maintain focus on the unity of all living beings.” Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Bill Fisher (Church Of The Cosmic Skull)

Haela Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix's band, Liturgy, is a platform for both fine art and theology, delivered in waves of transcendental black metal possessed by the spirit of classical music and the energetic urgency of punk and indie rock. An unapologetic Christian with a love of the Orthodox Church and a spiritual practice many believers would deem decidedly unorthodox, Hunt-Hendrix is a boundlessly talented, thoughtful, and moving artist and performer. As she says in this episode: "The band is called Liturgy. The point of the performances is to be a mass. Liturgy is a structured form of collective worship and that's the intention. When we play the music, I'm reading it as a holy experience." Discover Liturgy's music here. Delve further into her work and theology on Substack and YouTube.  Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Haela Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix's band, Liturgy, is a platform for both fine art and theology, delivered in waves of transcendental black metal possessed by the spirit of classical music and the energetic urgency of punk and indie rock. An unapologetic Christian with a love of the Orthodox Church and a spiritual practice many believers would deem decidedly unorthodox, Hunt-Hendrix is a boundlessly talented, thoughtful, and moving artist and performer. As she says in this episode: "The band is called Liturgy. The point of the performances is to be a mass. Liturgy is a structured form of collective worship and that's the intention. When we play the music, I'm reading it as a holy experience." Discover Liturgy's music <a href="https://liturgy.bandcamp.com" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. Delve further into her work and theology on <a href="https://litvrgy.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">Substack</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HaelaHuntHendrix" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>. Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Haela Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix (Liturgy)

Hasan Oswald

Hasan Oswald started his professional career as a cameraman for National Geographic’s film Hell on Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS. His verité style caught the eye of award-winning filmmakers Nick Quested &amp; Sebastian Junger (Restrepo). His directorial debut, Higher Love, about the opioid crisis in New Jersey, arrived in 2020. He's also covered the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, drug trafficking, homelessness in Philadelphia, and the Yazidi Genocide in Iraq. Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Hasan Oswald started his professional career as a cameraman for National Geographic’s film Hell on Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS. His verité style caught the eye of award-winning filmmakers Nick Quested &amp; Sebastian Junger (Restrepo). His directorial debut, Higher Love, about the opioid crisis in New Jersey, arrived in 2020. He's also covered the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, drug trafficking, homelessness in Philadelphia, and the Yazidi Genocide in Iraq. Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Hasan Oswald (Higher Love)

Dara Molloy

Dara Molloy is a Celtic Monk, Priest, and Druid who lives on Inis Mor, the largest of the three islands that make up the Aran Islands in Ireland. He talks about his journey from Catholicism to the Celtic spiritual tradition. Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Dara Molloy is a Celtic Monk, Priest, and Druid who lives on Inis Mor, the largest of the three islands that make up the Aran Islands in Ireland. He talks about his journey from Catholicism to the Celtic spiritual tradition. Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Dara Molloy (Celtic Monk)

Sergio Navarretta

Sergio Navarretta directed Looking for Angelina (2005), The Colossal Failure of the Modern Relationship (2015), and The Cuban (2020), about Mina (Ana Golja), a naive pre-med student who strikes up an unlikely friendship with Luis (Louis Gossett Jr.), an elderly Cuban musician. Navaretta talks about filming in Cuba, the spiritual power of music, and our relationship with our elders. "When my dad passed away, I realized how absolute death is; whatever happens in the moments before becomes so important." Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

Sergio Navarretta directed Looking for Angelina (2005), The Colossal Failure of the Modern Relationship (2015), and The Cuban (2020), about Mina (Ana Golja), a naive pre-med student who strikes up an unlikely friendship with Luis (Louis Gossett Jr.), an elderly Cuban musician. Navaretta talks about filming in Cuba, the spiritual power of music, and our relationship with our elders. "When my dad passed away, I realized how absolute death is; whatever happens in the moments before becomes so important." Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Sergio Navarretta (The Cuban)

Devin Townsend

"Making peace with who you are inevitably leads to the recognition that who you are is an illusion." In this revealing and in-depth conversation, Devin Townsend talks about music, meditation, collective unconscious, imposter syndrome, perfect happiness, emotional balance, and "a certain amount of transcendence." Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast.

"Making peace with who you are inevitably leads to the recognition that who you are is an illusion." In this revealing and in-depth conversation, Devin Townsend talks about music, meditation, collective unconscious, imposter syndrome, perfect happiness, emotional balance, and "a certain amount of transcendence." Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

SATYRICON frontman Satyr Wongraven returns to No-Prize From God. The Norwegian black metal musician talks about the spiritual and creative connections between nature, music, and visual arts, anchored specifically around the Satyricon &amp; Munch - Munchmuseet exhibition, which ran for several months in 2022. Handpicked works of Norway's most famous artist, Edvard Munch, inspired new Satyricon music drawing on existential themes, rhythms, and waves. (Read more about the exhibition here.) Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast. 

SATYRICON frontman Satyr Wongraven returns to No-Prize From God. The Norwegian black metal musician talks about the spiritual and creative connections between nature, music, and visual arts, anchored specifically around the Satyricon &amp; Munch - Munchmuseet exhibition, which ran for several months in 2022. Handpicked works of Norway's most famous artist, Edvard Munch, inspired new Satyricon music drawing on existential themes, rhythms, and waves. (Read more about the exhibition <a href="https://www.munchmuseet.no/en/exhibitions/archive/2022/satyricon--munch/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.) Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica). Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>.

Satyr Wongraven (Satyricon) II 

Aaron Weaver

WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM drummer Aaron Weaver talks about the deep-rooted spirituality of the American black metal band he co-founded with his brother, Nathan. WITTR make iconoclastic (even for black metal) and often ritualistic music meant to evoke the forests and mountains around them in the Pacific Northwest. In this in-depth conversation, Aaron speaks candidly about his personal experiences and the evolution of his ideas. Listen to No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast. Follow No-Prize From God, Ryan J. Downey, and check out Downey's other podcasts: PopCurse (Musicians Talking Movies) and Speak N' Destroy (Interviews About Metallica).

WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM drummer Aaron Weaver talks about the deep-rooted spirituality of the American black metal band he co-founded with his brother, Nathan. WITTR make iconoclastic (even for black metal) and often ritualistic music meant to evoke the forests and mountains around them in the Pacific Northwest. In this in-depth conversation, Aaron speaks candidly about his personal experiences and the evolution of his ideas. Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4EU5fnB5k9TVA4xKylaXsZ?si=9olyEfMnSvCiLGQSvxtprQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God: Playlist For the Podcast</a>. Follow <a href="https://linktr.ee/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">No-Prize From God</a>, <a href="https://linktr.ee/ryanjdowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a>, and check out Downey's other podcasts: <a href="https://linktr.ee/popcurse" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a> (Musicians Talking Movies) and <a href="https://linktr.ee/speakndestroy" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a> (Interviews About Metallica).

Aaron Weaver (Wolves In The Throne Room)

Conversations with creative people about belief, unbelief, and everything between. Hosted by longtime journalist Ryan J. Downey, who has worked for MTV News, MSNBC, Billboard, and The Hollywood Reporter.

Great podcast that interviews some really interesting people.

Interesting people

Emperor

No Prize From God

Ryan Clark

DEMON HUNTER frontman and Grammy nominated designer Ryan Clark talks about growing up the son of a pastor; the obstacles and misconceptions that come with the phrase "Christian music"; creative inspiration; artistic credibility; his health scare and subsequent lifestyle changes; Western food and medicine; and much more. Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, No Prize From God, and Hoosier Illusion.

DEMON HUNTER frontman and Grammy nominated designer Ryan Clark talks about growing up the son of a pastor; the obstacles and misconceptions that come with the phrase "Christian music"; creative inspiration; artistic credibility; his health scare and subsequent lifestyle changes; Western food and medicine; and much more. Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-prize-from-god/id1247211645?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">No Prize From God</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Ryan Clark (Demon Hunter)

Patrick McKinney

SOLDIERS FOR JESUS MC. Patrick "Slo-Roll" McKinney is a National Officer with Soldiers for Jesus Motorcycle Club and author of the book Unchained Rebel: An Outlaw Biker's Toughest Fight. A retired Army veteran, Slo-Roll preaches at a small Biker Church in the Sandhills region of North Carolina and ministers to secular MCs. Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, No Prize From God, and Hoosier Illusion.

SOLDIERS FOR JESUS MC. Patrick "Slo-Roll" McKinney is a National Officer with Soldiers for Jesus Motorcycle Club and author of the book Unchained Rebel: An Outlaw Biker's Toughest Fight. A retired Army veteran, Slo-Roll preaches at a small Biker Church in the Sandhills region of North Carolina and ministers to secular MCs. Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-prize-from-god/id1247211645?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">No Prize From God</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Patrick McKinney (Soldiers For Jesus MC)

Dustin Kensrue

THRICE frontman Dustin Kensrue on his journey with life's big questions; his personal evolution; the relationship (or lack thereof) between Thrice and the so-called Christian Music genre; how toxic mismanagement caused the dissolution of the church where he served as worship leader; inerrancy in scripture; theologian Peter Enns, Alfred North Whitehead and process theology; transitioning from interviewee to interviewer; and his podcast, Carry The Fire. Keep up with Dustin on Twitter and check out his podcast, Carry The Fire. For background on the Mars Hill Church controversy we touch on in this episode, here's an in-depth piece in the Seattle Times.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

THRICE frontman Dustin Kensrue on his journey with life's big questions; his personal evolution; the relationship (or lack thereof) between Thrice and the so-called Christian Music genre; how toxic mismanagement caused the dissolution of the church where he served as worship leader; inerrancy in scripture; theologian Peter Enns, Alfred North Whitehead and process theology; transitioning from interviewee to interviewer; and his podcast, Carry The Fire. Keep up with Dustin on <a href="https://twitter.com/dustinkensrue" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and check out his podcast, <a href="https://carrythefirepod.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Carry The Fire</a>. For background on the Mars Hill Church controversy we touch on in this episode, here's <a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/mark-driscoll-accused-of-racketeering-at-mars-hill-church/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">an in-depth piece in the Seattle Times</a>.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Dustin Kensrue (Thrice)

Mina Caputo

LIFE OF AGONY. Singer Mina Caputo, whose band is responsible for the metallic hardcore classic River Runs Red, talks about culture, spirit, human history, religion, transgender issues, connectivity, social media, psychedelics, and the inspiration she's drawn from writers, thinkers, and mystics like Terence McKenna, Alan Watts, Graham Hancock, Ram Dass, and Florence Scovel Shinn.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

LIFE OF AGONY. Singer Mina Caputo, whose band is responsible for the metallic hardcore classic River Runs Red, talks about culture, spirit, human history, religion, transgender issues, connectivity, social media, psychedelics, and the inspiration she's drawn from writers, thinkers, and mystics like Terence McKenna, Alan Watts, Graham Hancock, Ram Dass, and Florence Scovel Shinn.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Mina Caputo (Life Of Agony)

Blackie Lawless

W.A.S.P. Heavy metal frontman and target (of the PMRC, Blackie Lawless talks about witnessing the birth of KISS; his Baptist upbringing; heavy metal’s obsession with faith, the devil, and God; how the church flourished under persecution; retracing Paul’s steps in ancient cities;  predestination; Calvinism; spiritual warfare; why he won’t perform certain songs anymore; and indoctrination vs. thinking for yourself. Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

W.A.S.P. Heavy metal frontman and target (of the PMRC, Blackie Lawless talks about witnessing the birth of KISS; his Baptist upbringing; heavy metal’s obsession with faith, the devil, and God; how the church flourished under persecution; retracing Paul’s steps in ancient cities;  predestination; Calvinism; spiritual warfare; why he won’t perform certain songs anymore; and indoctrination vs. thinking for yourself. Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Blackie Lawless (W.A.S.P.)

BEHEMOTH. Adam Darski talks about the religious atmosphere of his upbringing; discovering radical spiritual ideas; black metal music; legally changing his middle name to Nergal; formally leaving the Catholic Church; the onstage performance and more recent Instagram post that led to a charges of blasphemy in the Polish courts; whether or not his battle with leukemia altered his views toward the bigger picture; and more.

Nergal (Behemoth)

Peterson Toscano

BEYOND EX-GAY. Playwright, Bible scholar, and activist Peterson Toscano on his personal experience with so-called "conversion therapy"; what Scripture says about gender identity; climate change; comedy and social issues; changing hearts and minds within the church and without; and much more.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

BEYOND EX-GAY. Playwright, Bible scholar, and activist Peterson Toscano on his personal experience with so-called "conversion therapy"; what Scripture says about gender identity; climate change; comedy and social issues; changing hearts and minds within the church and without; and much more.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Peterson Toscano (Beyond Ex-Gay)

Kellin Quinn

SLEEPING WITH SIRENS. Kellin Quinn talks about his early childhood experiences with the church; getting into bands like Showbread and Underoath; his issues with certain practices and failures of organized religion; life's big questions and prayer with his own children; overbearing musical missionaries on the road; and where he's at in his personal journey today.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

SLEEPING WITH SIRENS. Kellin Quinn talks about his early childhood experiences with the church; getting into bands like Showbread and Underoath; his issues with certain practices and failures of organized religion; life's big questions and prayer with his own children; overbearing musical missionaries on the road; and where he's at in his personal journey today.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Kellin Quinn (Sleeping With Sirens)

EMPEROR is almost without equal in the black metal music scene. As frontman for the legendary Norwegian band and an accomplished solo artist, Ihsahn is uniquely qualified to speak with authority about the subculture. He talks about the evolution of his personal philosophy; the importance of meaning, purpose, and confrontation in art; Friedrich Nietzche; and much more.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, Speak N' Destroy, and Hoosier Illusion.

EMPEROR is almost without equal in the black metal music scene. As frontman for the legendary Norwegian band and an accomplished solo artist, Ihsahn is uniquely qualified to speak with authority about the subculture. He talks about the evolution of his personal philosophy; the importance of meaning, purpose, and confrontation in art; Friedrich Nietzche; and much more.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-n-destroy/id1247366170" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Speak N' Destroy</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Ihsahn (Emperor)

Myles Kennedy

ALTER BRIDGE. Alter Bridge and Slash Featuring Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators vocalist Myles Kennedy lost his father when he was just four years old. His dad's undiagnosed appendicitis was likely treatable, but due to his devout Christian Scientist beliefs, he refused medical care. In this episode, the singer talks about that experience, his own journey through belief and unbelief, and how it all informs his debut solo album, Year of the Tiger.  Follow No-Prize From God on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Follow Ryan J. Downey on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: PopCurse, No Prize From God, and Hoosier Illusion.

ALTER BRIDGE. Alter Bridge and Slash Featuring Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators vocalist Myles Kennedy lost his father when he was just four years old. His dad's undiagnosed appendicitis was likely treatable, but due to his devout Christian Scientist beliefs, he refused medical care. In this episode, the singer talks about that experience, his own journey through belief and unbelief, and how it all informs his debut solo album, Year of the Tiger.  Follow No-Prize From God on <a href="https://twitter.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/noprizefromgod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/noprizefromgod" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>. Follow <a href="http://ryanjdowney.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ryan J. Downey</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/ryandowney" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/superherohq/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ryanjdowneyRJD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>.  Check out other PopCurse network podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/popcurse-with-ryan-j-downey/id1206177531" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PopCurse</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-prize-from-god/id1247211645?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">No Prize From God</a>, and <a href="http://hoosierillusion.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hoosier Illusion</a>.

Myles Kennedy (Alter Bridge)

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