Melissa Isaacson

In this first episode of our Pandemic Series, Chris and Brock welcome former Chicago Tribune Bulls beat writer Melissa Isaacson to discuss the Jordan-led Bulls of the 90's and talk about "The Last Dance" documentary, in which she appears! #GetPumpedGetPsyched

In this first episode of our Pandemic Series, Chris and Brock welcome former Chicago Tribune Bulls beat writer Melissa Isaacson to discuss the Jordan-led Bulls of the 90's and talk about "The Last Dance" documentary, in which she appears! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23GetPumpedGetPsyched" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">#GetPumpedGetPsyched</a>

Pandemic Series #1 - "The Last Dance" w/ Fmr Chicago Bulls Beat Writer Melissa Isaacson

Chris Fallica

Joey Knish

On SZN 2 Ep, 24... Chris and Brock welcome "The Bear" Chris Falllica from ESPN's College Gameday and Joey Knish to talk NFL Draft 2020. We now have a video version of the pod on YouTube! Check it out at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMVy6Qg8DM.Get Pumped, Get Psyched, It's The Wager Pager Podcast!

On SZN 2 Ep, 24... Chris and Brock welcome "The Bear" Chris Falllica from ESPN's College Gameday and Joey Knish to talk NFL Draft 2020. We now have a video version of the pod on YouTube! Check it out at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMVy6Qg8DM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMVy6Qg8DM</a>. Get Pumped, Get Psyched, It's The Wager Pager Podcast!

2020 NFL Draft Pod - With "The Bear" Chris Fallica and Joey Knish

Dianna Russini

On SZN 2, Ep 23... Chris and Brock welcome ESPN’s Dianna Russini to the show. Dianna talks Tom Brady rumors, XFL and the future of sports betting. Plus, DeMarquis Gates from the Houston Roughnecks calls in  and we have a very special appearance by Seattle Dragons super fan Broccoli Guy! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep 23... Chris and Brock welcome ESPN’s Dianna Russini to the show. Dianna talks Tom Brady rumors, XFL and the future of sports betting. Plus, DeMarquis Gates from the Houston Roughnecks calls in and we have a very special appearance by Seattle Dragons super fan Broccoli Guy! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

XFL Mid-Season w/ Dianna Russini, DeMarquis Gates & Broccoli Guy

On SZN 2, Ep 22... Chris and Brock welcome XFL Social Media Editor Bailey Carlin, plus Colin Jeter and Kenneth Farrow II from the XFL's Seattle Dragons. This is the XFL Kickoff Show! Get Pumped, Get Psyched! 

On SZN 2, Ep 22... Chris and Brock welcome XFL Social Media Editor Bailey Carlin, plus Colin Jeter and Kenneth Farrow II from the XFL's Seattle Dragons. This is the XFL Kickoff Show! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

XFL Kickoff Show

On SZN 2, Ep. 21... Chris and Brock welcome Jake Williams from The Business of Betting Podcast as a guest host for the Super Bowl Super Pod. The guys have assembled an ALL STAR guest list for the show: more professional sports bettors and handicappers than ever before on one podcast!  Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep. 21... Chris and Brock welcome Jake Williams from The Business of Betting Podcast as a guest host for the Super Bowl Super Pod. The guys have assembled an ALL STAR guest list for the show: more professional sports bettors and handicappers than ever before on one podcast!  Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

The Super Bowl Super Pod

On SZN 2 Ep. 20... Chris and Brock welcome sports betting extraordinaire Joey Knish to talk his process, gambling twitter, and NFL Conference Championship games. Plus, the guys make their picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! 

On SZN 2 Ep. 20... Chris and Brock welcome sports betting extraordinaire Joey Knish to talk his process, gambling twitter, and NFL Conference Championship games. Plus, the guys make their picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Conference Championships w/ Joey Knish

Chris Andrews

On SZN 2 EP. 19... Chris and Brock welcome back legendary Las Vegas bookmaker and author Chris Andrews to the show. The guys break down the Divisional Round betting slate and talk to Chris about his career as a bookmaker and much more. And of course, Chris and Brock throw out some picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 EP. 19... Chris and Brock welcome back legendary Las Vegas bookmaker and author Chris Andrews to the show. The guys break down the Divisional Round betting slate and talk to Chris about his career as a bookmaker and much more. And of course, Chris and Brock throw out some picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Divisional Round Weekend w/ Chris Andrews

Adam Chernoff

On SZN 2, Ep. 18... Chris and Brock welcome back NFL handicapper Adam Chernoff to break down the entire Wild Card Weekend slate. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep. 18... Chris and Brock welcome back NFL handicapper Adam Chernoff to break down the entire Wild Card Weekend slate. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Wild Card Weekend w/ Adam Chernoff

Colby Dant

On SZN 2, Ep 17... Chris and Brock welcome back Colby Dant for The 2019 Wager Pager Bowl Bonanza Show! The guys pick seven bowl games each in a draft-like format. 21 picks to follow or fade...Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep 17... Chris and Brock welcome back Colby Dant for The 2019 Wager Pager Bowl Bonanza Show! The guys pick seven bowl games each in a draft-like format. 21 picks to follow or fade...Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

College Football Bowl Bonanza 2019 w/ Colby Dant

Joey Tunes

On SZN 2, Ep. 16...Chris and Brock welcome professional sports bettor and New Jersey native, Joey Tunes to the show to discuss all things sports gambling. Plus, the guys make their picks for NFL week 15. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep. 16...Chris and Brock welcome professional sports bettor and New Jersey native, Joey Tunes to the show to discuss all things sports gambling. Plus, the guys make their picks for NFL week 15. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL week 15 w/ Joey Tunes

On The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers and Brock Landers conduct must-hear interviews with the sharpest minds in sports gambling, and they dole out hot picks and analysis for the upcoming games. The podcast focuses on NFL and NCAA football, but also dabbles in NBA, NCAA basketball, MLB and more during the offseason. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! Sports Gambling, Sports Betting, Sports News, Reality

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On The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers and Brock Landers conduct must-hear interviews with the sharpest minds in sports gambling, and they dole out hot picks and analysis for the upcoming games. The podcast focuses on NFL and NCAA football, but also dabbles in NBA, NCAA basketball, MLB and more during the offseason. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! Sports Gambling, Sports Betting, Sports News, Reality

The Wager Pager Sports Gambling Podcast

This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( @TheWagerPager ) and Mercedes Barba ( @MercedesBianca ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. This week they touch on big news about MGM deals with the NHL and the NY Jets, record breaking revenue numbers coming out of Nevada for the month of September, and report on the Esports betting world that’s coming to America (0:00-5:45).Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Berryhorse AKA Kieran ( @Berryhorse29 ). Kieran is very well known on Twitter for his computer model handicapping, he is also the host of The Sports Thoughts Podcast with Jerry and Kieran, and the author of The BetitUp.com sports gambling newsletter (5:45-25:40). Kieran discusses his career path in the sports gambling world, outlines some basic modeling techniques, and give us his thoughts on “betting percentages” and “fading the public.”And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( @JamesRuhlen ), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for College Football week 10 and NFL week 9 (25:40-1:02:31).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWagerPager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@TheWagerPager </a>) and Mercedes Barba ( <a href="https://twitter.com/mercedesbianca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@MercedesBianca</a> ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. This week they touch on big news about MGM deals with the NHL and the NY Jets, record breaking revenue numbers coming out of Nevada for the month of September, and report on the Esports betting world that’s coming to America (0:00-5:45).Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Berryhorse AKA Kieran ( <a href="https://twitter.com/berryhorse29" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@Berryhorse29</a> ). Kieran is very well known on Twitter for his computer model handicapping, he is also the host of The Sports Thoughts Podcast with Jerry and Kieran, and the author of The <a href="https://www.betitup.com/sign-up" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BetitUp.com</a> sports gambling newsletter (5:45-25:40). Kieran discusses his career path in the sports gambling world, outlines some basic modeling techniques, and give us his thoughts on “betting percentages” and “fading the public.”And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesRuhlen" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@JamesRuhlen </a>), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for College Football week 10 and NFL week 9 (25:40-1:02:31).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Episode 013: CFB week 10, NFL week 9, Berryhorse AKA Kieran

Sean Green

On SZN 2 Episode 3... Chris and Brock welcome professional sports bettor @Spanky for an exclusive LIVE in-studio interview (part 1 will air this week and part 2 will be on next week’s episode) Plus, @SeanTGreen, comedian and host of @GamblingPodcast, calls into the show on his way to Las Vegas - and the guys throw out some picks for CFB and NFL week 1! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 Episode 3... Chris and Brock welcome professional sports bettor @Spanky for an exclusive LIVE in-studio interview (part 1 will air this week and part 2 will be on next week’s episode) Plus, @SeanTGreen, comedian and host of @GamblingPodcast, calls into the show on his way to Las Vegas - and the guys throw out some picks for CFB and NFL week 1! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 1, CFB Week 2 w/ Spanky and Sean Green

Rufus Peabody

On SZN 2, Ep. 13... Chris and Brock are joined by professional sports bettor and analytics expert Rufus Peabody. The guys talk handicapping, football and golf. Plus, Chris and Brock make their picks for NFL week 11 and CFB week 12. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep. 13... Chris and Brock are joined by professional sports bettor and analytics expert Rufus Peabody. The guys talk handicapping, football and golf. Plus, Chris and Brock make their picks for NFL week 11 and CFB week 12. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 11, CFB Week 12 w/ Rufus Peabody

On SZN 2 Ep. 10... Chris and Brock welcome back to the show professional sports better Bill Krackomberger to talk Jersey vs Vegas plus much more. And, the guys give out their picks for NFL week 8 and CFB week 9. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 Ep. 10... Chris and Brock welcome back to the show professional sports better Bill Krackomberger to talk Jersey vs Vegas plus much more. And, the guys give out their picks for NFL week 8 and CFB week 9. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 8, CFB Week 9 w/ Bill “Krackman” Krackomberger

Log on to YouWager.EU/WagerPager to receive a 50% welcome bonus up to $1000!This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( @TheWagerPager ) and Mercedes Barba ( @MercedesBianca ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. (0:00-4:55).Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Alan 'Dink' Denkenson ( @dinkinc ). Dink is a professional sports bettor based out of Las Vegas who specializes in NHL hockey and was a subject in the cult classic sports gambling documentary "The Best of It" (4:58-37:40).And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( @JamesRuhlen ), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for NFL week 16 (38:08-52:55).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Log on to <a href="https://www.youwager.eu/wagerpager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">YouWager.EU/WagerPager</a> to receive a 50% welcome bonus up to $1000!This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWagerPager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@TheWagerPager </a>) and Mercedes Barba ( <a href="https://twitter.com/mercedesbianca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@MercedesBianca</a> ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. (0:00-4:55).Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Alan 'Dink' Denkenson ( <a href="https://twitter.com/dinkinc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@dinkinc </a>). Dink is a professional sports bettor based out of Las Vegas who specializes in NHL hockey and was a subject in the cult classic sports gambling documentary "The Best of It" (4:58-37:40).And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesRuhlen" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@JamesRuhlen </a>), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for NFL week 16 (38:08-52:55).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Episode 017: Washington D.C. legalizes sports gambling, Alan 'Dink' Denkenson, NFL week 16

Todd Wishnev

Gill Alexander

On SZN 2 Episode 1 ... Chris and Brock welcome Todd Wishnev from Showtime’s “Action” and VSiN’s “A Numbers Game” with Gill Alexander. Also, the guys introduce Wager Pager CFB contributor John Mahoney and talk CFB week 0 and full season outlooks. And, there’s some funny stories as per usual! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 Episode 1 ... Chris and Brock welcome Todd Wishnev from Showtime’s “Action” and VSiN’s “A Numbers Game” with Gill Alexander. Also, the guys introduce Wager Pager CFB contributor John Mahoney and talk CFB week 0 and full season outlooks. And, there’s some funny stories as per usual! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

CFB Week 0, Todd Wishnev from Showtime’s “ACTION” and  VSiN’s “A Numbers Game” with Gill Alexander

Jeff Nadu

On SZN 2 Ep.4... Chris and Brock welcome back Spanky for Part 2 of their exclusive interview and Jeff Nadu AKA Big Man On Campus calls in to talk CFB amongst other topics. Plus, the guys throw out picks for CFB and NFL. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 Ep.4... Chris and Brock welcome back Spanky for Part 2 of their exclusive interview and Jeff Nadu AKA Big Man On Campus calls in to talk CFB amongst other topics. Plus, the guys throw out picks for CFB and NFL. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 2, CFB Week 3 w/ Spanky (pt. 2) and Jeff Nadu

On SZN 2 Ep 5... Chris and Brock, welcome back Advantage Player and Professional Sports Bettor Captain Jack Andrews to discuss the landscape of legal sports betting here in New Jersey and nationwide. And, as per usual, the guys throw out their picks! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2 Ep 5... Chris and Brock, welcome back Advantage Player and Professional Sports Bettor Captain Jack Andrews to discuss the landscape of legal sports betting here in New Jersey and nationwide. And, as per usual, the guys throw out their picks! Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 3, CFB Week 4 w/ Captain Jack Andrews

This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( @TheWagerPager ) and Mercedes Barba ( @MercedesBianca ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling.Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Parlay Queen ( @ParlayQueen ). Parlay Queen is a sports handicapper and prop bet specialist from Canada. She writes a column about sports gambling for Covers.com and is very active on #GamblingTwitter. She joins the show to talk about her “top three” prop bets for Super Bowl 53.And, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen, former Marist College defensive back, drops by once again to make picks for the big game.Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! For the latest sports gambling news and added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( @TheWagerPager ) and Mercedes Barba ( @MercedesBianca ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. Mercedes and Chris are joined this week by Parlay Queen ( @ParlayQueen ). Parlay Queen is a sports handicapper and prop bet specialist from Canada. She writes a column about sports gambling for <a href="http://Covers.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Covers.com</a> and is very active on #GamblingTwitter. She joins the show to talk about her “top three” prop bets for Super Bowl 53. And, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen, former Marist College defensive back, drops by once again to make picks for the big game. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast! For the latest sports gambling news and added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Episode 022 : The Super Bowl 53 Show featuring Parlay Queen

On SZN 2, Ep 6... Chris and Brock present part 2 of their exclusive in-studio interview with Captain Jack Andrews, and Ryan “Real Money” Kramer, co-host of The Sports Gambling Podcast, calls in to talk Danny Dimes mania and much more. Plus, the guys throw down their picks for NFL week 4 and CFB week 5. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!

On SZN 2, Ep 6... Chris and Brock present part 2 of their exclusive in-studio interview with Captain Jack Andrews, and Ryan “Real Money” Kramer, co-host of The Sports Gambling Podcast, calls in to talk Danny Dimes mania and much more. Plus, the guys throw down their picks for NFL week 4 and CFB week 5. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!

NFL Week 4, CFB Week 5 w/ Captain Jack (pt 2) and Ryan "Real Money" Kramer

Whale Capper

On SZN 2, Ep. 9... Chris and Brock welcome back friend of the pod, Whale Capper, to discuss preseason NBA leans, NFL mid-season thoughts and much more! Plus, the guys give out their picks for NFL week 7 and CFB week 8. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!

On SZN 2, Ep. 9... Chris and Brock welcome back friend of the pod, Whale Capper, to discuss preseason NBA leans, NFL mid-season thoughts and much more! Plus, the guys give out their picks for NFL week 7 and CFB week 8. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!

NFL Week 7, CFB Week 8 w/ Whale Capper

On SZN 2 Episode 2... Chris and Brock welcome James Alberino from @SpreadInvestor to preview the upcoming NFL season and Geoff Sheasby AKA @OldManWhoBets drops by the studio to talk sports betting, fantasy football and branding. And, as usual, the guys throw out some picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It's the Wager Pager Podcast.

On SZN 2 Episode 2... Chris and Brock welcome James Alberino from @SpreadInvestor to preview the upcoming NFL season and Geoff Sheasby AKA @OldManWhoBets drops by the studio to talk sports betting, fantasy football and branding. And, as usual, the guys throw out some picks. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It's the Wager Pager Podcast.

CFB Week 1, NFL Preview w/ Spread Investor & In-Studio interview w/ Old Man Who Bets

Log on to YouWager.EU/WagerPager to receive a 50% welcome bonus up to $1000!This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( @TheWagerPager ) and Mercedes Barba ( @MercedesBianca ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. This week they touch on sports betting news from the NFL, and report on New Jersey's latest sports gambling numbers. (0:00-5:30).And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( @JamesRuhlen ), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for NFL Wildcard Weekend and the CFB Championship game (5:58-20:00).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Log on to <a href="https://www.youwager.eu/wagerpager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">YouWager.EU/WagerPager</a> to receive a 50% welcome bonus up to $1000!This week on The Wager Pager Podcast, Chris Rodgers ( <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWagerPager" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@TheWagerPager </a>) and Mercedes Barba ( <a href="https://twitter.com/mercedesbianca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@MercedesBianca</a> ) , the sports betting couple from Jersey City, discuss all the breaking news in the world of sports gambling. This week they touch on sports betting news from the NFL, and report on New Jersey's latest sports gambling numbers. (0:00-5:30).And, once again, Jimmy “Dice” Ruhlen ( <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesRuhlen" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@JamesRuhlen </a>), former Marist College defensive back, returns to the show to offer up his perspective from a player’s point of view. Chris and Jim make their official selections -- that they will bet -- for NFL Wildcard Weekend and the CFB Championship game (5:58-20:00).Get Pumped, Get Psyched! It’s The Wager Pager Podcast!For the latest sports gambling news and additional added wagers follow us @TheWagerPager on Twitter and Instagram! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes and listen above!

Episode 018: NFL Wildcard Weekend and CFB Championship picks

On SZN 2, Ep. 11... Chris and Brock are without a guest due to World Series Game 7, but the guys still talk sports gambling and make picks for NFL week 9 and CFB week 10. Get Pumped, Get Psyched! 

On SZN 2, Ep. 11... Chris and Brock are without a guest due to World Series Game 7, but the guys still talk sports gambling and make picks for NFL week 9 and CFB week 10. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 9, CFB Week 10

On SZN 2, Ep. 14... Chris and Brock welcome back friend of the pod Todd Wishnev to talk sports gambling and much more! Plus, The guys make their picks for NFL week 12 and CFB week 13. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

On SZN 2, Ep. 14... Chris and Brock welcome back friend of the pod Todd Wishnev to talk sports gambling and much more! Plus, The guys make their picks for NFL week 12 and CFB week 13. Get Pumped, Get Psyched!

NFL Week 12, CFB Week 13 w/ Todd Wishnev

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