With every starter on the sidelines, the 49ers struggled from top to bottom Sunday against the Raiders, losing 34-7 in their preseason opener. We got our first glimpse of Trey Lance in almost a year, along with fellow backup QB Sam Darnold, both playing behind a struggling offensive line. The defense didn't fare any better, but players on both sides of the ball still managed to stand out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With every starter on the sidelines, the 49ers struggled from top to bottom Sunday against the Raiders, losing 34-7 in their preseason opener. We got our first glimpse of Trey Lance in almost a year, along with fellow backup QB Sam Darnold, both playing behind a struggling offensive line. The defense didn't fare any better, but players on both sides of the ball still managed to stand out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Struggle In Preseason Opener

The 49ers brought out the pads on Monday and it didn't take long for tempers to flare. Rob was on-site at the Levi's Stadium practice field to see these quarterbacks for himself, all of whom had their work cut out for them as the team's stubborn defense fought for every yard.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The 49ers brought out the pads on Monday and it didn't take long for tempers to flare. Rob was on-site at the Levi's Stadium practice field to see these quarterbacks for himself, all of whom had their work cut out for them as the team's stubborn defense fought for every yard.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

On Location for 49ers' First Padded Practice

Brock Purdy

49ers training camp is in full swing, with QB Brock Purdy making his first official return to practice since his elbow injury in the NFC Championship game. The defense welcomed him back, along with the other quarterbacks, dominating Thursday's practice. The reactions have been, well...something. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

49ers training camp is in full swing, with QB Brock Purdy making his first official return to practice since his elbow injury in the NFC Championship game. The defense welcomed him back, along with the other quarterbacks, dominating Thursday's practice. The reactions have been, well...something. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Brock Purdy Returns to 49ers Training Camp

The entire 49ers roster (well, almost) has entered the building, reporting for the team's 2023 training camp. General manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan both met with the media on Tuesday, giving us plenty to discuss as the team begins preparing for the regular season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The entire 49ers roster (well, almost) has entered the building, reporting for the team's 2023 training camp. General manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan both met with the media on Tuesday, giving us plenty to discuss as the team begins preparing for the regular season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Report for Training Camp

Our 49ers roster breakdown continues with the driving force of the offense, the tight ends and offensive line. It's George Kittle and everyone else, along with a line that returns the majority of its starters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Our 49ers roster breakdown continues with the driving force of the offense, the tight ends and offensive line. It's George Kittle and everyone else, along with a line that returns the majority of its starters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Tight End and Offensive Line

Rob is back in the saddle with another roster breakdown, this time working through the 49ers' loaded group of pass-catchers and how they'll stack up in 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob is back in the saddle with another roster breakdown, this time working through the 49ers' loaded group of pass-catchers and how they'll stack up in 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Roster Breakdown: Wide Receivers

Jimmy Garoppolo

The 49ers can't escape quarterback talk, so we might as well embrace it. NFL film analyst Alex Rollins on YouTube created an interesting discussion on just how similar Brock Purdy is to Jimmy Garoppolo. Rob breaks down his main points, and offers some contrast to the idea that the 49ers quarterback situation remains unchanged.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The 49ers can't escape quarterback talk, so we might as well embrace it. NFL film analyst Alex Rollins on YouTube created an interesting discussion on just how similar Brock Purdy is to Jimmy Garoppolo. Rob breaks down his main points, and offers some contrast to the idea that the 49ers quarterback situation remains unchanged.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Brock Purdy just another Jimmy Garoppolo?

We're in the doldrums of the NFL offseason as we count down the days before the start of NFL training camp. It's the perfect time to start breaking down the roster, so Rob kicks it off with the 49ers backfield: quarterbacks and running backs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're in the doldrums of the NFL offseason as we count down the days before the start of NFL training camp. It's the perfect time to start breaking down the roster, so Rob kicks it off with the 49ers backfield: quarterbacks and running backs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Roster Breakdown: Backfield

The 49ers wrapped up mandatory minicamp, the last team activity before training camp in late July. Rob breaks down the storylines that emerged from the practice field, kickers included. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The 49ers wrapped up mandatory minicamp, the last team activity before training camp in late July. Rob breaks down the storylines that emerged from the practice field, kickers included. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Minicamp Ministories

Organized Team Activities have begun for the 49ers, and after hearing from 49ers quarterbacks Brock Purdy, Trey Lance and Sam Darnold, Rob takes this opportunity to look at the possible realities that could face this quarterback room this season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Organized Team Activities have begun for the 49ers, and after hearing from 49ers quarterbacks Brock Purdy, Trey Lance and Sam Darnold, Rob takes this opportunity to look at the possible realities that could face this quarterback room this season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Embracing Alternate QB Realities

Striking Gold is dedicated to covering the San Francisco 49ers. Rob Lowder of Blue Wire and Kyle Posey of Niners Nation, both credentialed media covering the team on the ground, come together for down-to-earth analysis of the five-time Super Bowl Champions.

Rob and Crocker are amazing. Kevin needs to stay off the pod - don’t enjoy his content or his constant interrupting and talking over the others. Love the Rob and Crock pod!

Awesome podcast

Love Eric Crocker and Rob Lowder. Kevin Jones not so much.

Eric Crocker & Rob Lowder

Striking Gold: A 49ers Pod

Nick Mullens

KJ recaps the 49ers 34-3 blowout win over the Raiders, Nick Mullen's special night, why he should be the starter for the foreseeable future, whether Kyle Shanahan paired down the playbook and if that should continue, plus lots of other anecdotes and clowning on the Raiders. Follow KJ on Twitter: @Mr_KevinJonesListen to more podcasts like this bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ recaps the 49ers 34-3 blowout win over the Raiders, Nick Mullen's special night, why he should be the starter for the foreseeable future, whether Kyle Shanahan paired down the playbook and if that should continue, plus lots of other anecdotes and clowning on the Raiders. Follow KJ on Twitter: @Mr_KevinJonesListen to more podcasts like this <a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Nick Mullens!

KJ is joined by good friend and former 49ers team reporter Taylor Price to discuss some of the funnier off the field storylines about the team this year including Arik Armstead's Twitter tirade against local reporter Ryan Sakamoto, Grant Cohn's coverage of the team, Kyle Shanahan's use of f-bombs, Jimmy G's partnership with Bose and then some football talk about Solomon Thomas and the offseason.Listen to more podcasts like this: bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ is joined by good friend and former 49ers team reporter Taylor Price to discuss some of the funnier off the field storylines about the team this year including Arik Armstead's Twitter tirade against local reporter Ryan Sakamoto, Grant Cohn's coverage of the team, Kyle Shanahan's use of f-bombs, Jimmy G's partnership with Bose and then some football talk about Solomon Thomas and the offseason.Listen to more podcasts like this: <a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Beefs

Tevin Coleman

Jordan Matthews

Jason Verrett

KJ dishes out his second wave of free agency reactions: Loves the move for Tevin Coleman, thinks Jordan Matthews will start Week 1 over Kendrick Bourne, questions the decision of only adding Jason Verrett at cornerback and it flat out disagrees with bringing back Jimmie Ward to start at free safety. KJ also talks more Kwon Alexander, Dee Ford and some musical chairs SF would have to play if/when they land Nick Bosa at No. 2.bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ dishes out his second wave of free agency reactions: Loves the move for Tevin Coleman, thinks Jordan Matthews will start Week 1 over Kendrick Bourne, questions the decision of only adding Jason Verrett at cornerback and it flat out disagrees with bringing back Jimmie Ward to start at free safety. KJ also talks more Kwon Alexander, Dee Ford and some musical chairs SF would have to play if/when they land Nick Bosa at No. 2.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Tevin Coleman, Jordan Matthews & Jason Verrett

Emmanuel Sanders

Rob and Eric and back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ trade for Emmanuel Sanders, their Week 7 win and preview Sunday’s matchup against the Carolina Panthers. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Axios Sports and Indochino. Try Axious Sports free at sports.axios.com and go to indochino.com to get fitted for a custom tux using promo code BLUEWIRE.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob and Eric and back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ trade for Emmanuel Sanders, their Week 7 win and preview Sunday’s matchup against the Carolina Panthers. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Axios Sports and Indochino. Try Axious Sports free at <a href="http://sports.axios.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sports.axios.com</a> and go to i<a href="http://ndochino.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ndochino.com</a> to get fitted for a custom tux using promo code BLUEWIRE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Recapping 49ers’ trade for Emmanuel Sanders, Week 7 win and Panthers Preview

KJ discusses the ramifications of Rich Scangarello's departure from SF's QB coach to Denver's offensive coordinator, the hiring of Joe Woods + Kris Kocurek, Nick Bosa vs. Josh Allen, what the Cardinals will do with pick No. 1, Antonio Brown rumors and how the best teams in the NFC make the most risky offseason moves.bluewirepods.com   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ discusses the ramifications of Rich Scangarello's departure from SF's QB coach to Denver's offensive coordinator, the hiring of Joe Woods + Kris Kocurek, Nick Bosa vs. Josh Allen, what the Cardinals will do with pick No. 1, Antonio Brown rumors and how the best teams in the NFC make the most risky offseason moves.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Coaching Changes

KJ delves into the latest 49ers loss, a 39-10 drubbing from the LA Rams. All the weak spots are analyzed: Turnovers, wide receivers, CJ Beathard, Jaquiski Tartt, the d-line, Reuben Foster's struggles. KJ now believes winning isn't worth it: SF should be going for the No. 1 overall pick  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ delves into the latest 49ers loss, a 39-10 drubbing from the LA Rams. All the weak spots are analyzed: Turnovers, wide receivers, CJ Beathard, Jaquiski Tartt, the d-line, Reuben Foster's struggles. KJ now believes winning isn't worth it: SF should be going for the No. 1 overall pick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

The 49ers are so terrible that the No. 1 pick is realistic

Kevin is off this week so in place we have the latest edition of the Light Years podcast.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin is off this week so in place we have the latest edition of the Light Years podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Light Years

KJ analyzes new QBs coach Shane Day, Martin Mayhew's promotion, the top 12 pieces on the 49ers roster, how Quinnen Williams would fit with DeForest Buckner and a plea for every SF fan to root for the Patriots on Super Bowl Sunday.bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ analyzes new QBs coach Shane Day, Martin Mayhew's promotion, the top 12 pieces on the 49ers roster, how Quinnen Williams would fit with DeForest Buckner and a plea for every SF fan to root for the Patriots on Super Bowl Sunday.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Top 12 pieces on the 49ers roster

KJ returns from his Hawaii trip with thoughts on why trading for Antonio Brown is worth the risk, sets his top three prospects on his pre-NFL combine draft board, calls out Earl Thomas and a trio of edge rushers the 49ers will choose from in free agency, answers a few random mailbag questions and gives some final thoughts on Colin Kaepernick.bluewirepods.comHarrys.com/bluwire  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ returns from his Hawaii trip with thoughts on why trading for Antonio Brown is worth the risk, sets his top three prospects on his pre-NFL combine draft board, calls out Earl Thomas and a trio of edge rushers the 49ers will choose from in free agency, answers a few random mailbag questions and gives some final thoughts on Colin Kaepernick.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a><a href="http://Harrys.com/bluwire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harrys.com/bluwire</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

AB Saga, Draft & Free Agency Big Board

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ thrilling win over the Cardinals and preview Sunday’s big matchup against the Packers. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, UNTUCKit.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ thrilling win over the Cardinals and preview Sunday’s big matchup against the Packers. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, UNTUCKit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Recapping 49ers win over Cardinals and previewing Packers

Kevin Jones recaps the Niners blowout win on Sunday Night Football, discusses how this season could cause big decisions this coming offseason, and looks ahead to potential playoff matchups.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Jones recaps the Niners blowout win on Sunday Night Football, discusses how this season could cause big decisions this coming offseason, and looks ahead to potential playoff matchups. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Dismantle Packers, Improve to 10-1

Eric Crocker

KJ is joined by his buddy Eric Crocker where the two discuss the team's strategy with their second round pick, the concern about the secondary, Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Bosa's fit and a whole lot more.bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ is joined by his buddy Eric Crocker where the two discuss the team's strategy with their second round pick, the concern about the secondary, Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Bosa's fit and a whole lot more.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers biggest storylines (ft. Eric Crocker)

Kevin Jones recaps the huge Niners win against the Seahawks, looks back on the regular season, and gives his takes on the team heading into the playoffs.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Jones recaps the huge Niners win against the Seahawks, looks back on the regular season, and gives his takes on the team heading into the playoffs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Win Showdown in Seattle, Clinch #1 Seed

KJ breaks down Jimmy Garoppolo, second cornerback, Kyle's play calling and why this little scare from the Lions might actually be a good thing for the 49ers locker room.Follow KJ on Twitter: @Mr_KevinJonesListen to more local sports podcasts like this BlueWirePods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ breaks down Jimmy Garoppolo, second cornerback, Kyle's play calling and why this little scare from the Lions might actually be a good thing for the 49ers locker room. Follow KJ on Twitter: @Mr_KevinJones Listen to more local sports podcasts like this <a href="http://BlueWirePods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BlueWirePods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers beat the Lions, but have some issues on offense and defense

Kevin Jones is back for another victory Monday podcast after the Niners win over the Minnesota Vikings. He recaps what went well for San Francisco, and also looks ahead to next week's matchup against the Green Bay Packers at Levi's Stadium with a trip to the Super Bowl on the Line.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin Jones is back for another victory Monday podcast after the Niners win over the Minnesota Vikings. He recaps what went well for San Francisco, and also looks ahead to next week's matchup against the Green Bay Packers at Levi's Stadium with a trip to the Super Bowl on the Line. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

49ers Dominate the Vikings and Advance to NFC Title Game

Nick Bosa

KJ gives his thoughts on the Nick Bosa pick: he loves it. SF turned their biggest weakness into a strength in one offseason. KJ goes over his ceiling, his strengths, weaknesses, political views and SF's learning lesson of getting too cute. KJ also requests someone stand up to Kyle and demand the 49ers take a WR in Round 2 on Friday.bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ gives his thoughts on the Nick Bosa pick: he loves it. SF turned their biggest weakness into a strength in one offseason. KJ goes over his ceiling, his strengths, weaknesses, political views and SF's learning lesson of getting too cute. KJ also requests someone stand up to Kyle and demand the 49ers take a WR in Round 2 on Friday.<a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

KJ discusses DeForest Buckner's Pro Bowl snub, the pros and cons of trading Nick Mullens, Solomon Thomas' best game of his career, lightly previewing the Week 16 matchup vs. Chicago and then sampling 10 minutes of Blue Wire's new 49ers podcast Candlestick Chronicles.Listen to more podcasts like this: bluewirepods.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

KJ discusses DeForest Buckner's Pro Bowl snub, the pros and cons of trading Nick Mullens, Solomon Thomas' best game of his career, lightly previewing the Week 16 matchup vs. Chicago and then sampling 10 minutes of Blue Wire's new 49ers podcast Candlestick Chronicles.Listen to more podcasts like this: <a href="http://bluewirepods.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bluewirepods.com</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Mullens, Solly T, Chicago Preview

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers' heartbreaking loss to the Ravens and touch on Sunday’s matchup against the Saints. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Indochino, Harry’s and Shipstation.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers' heartbreaking loss to the Ravens and touch on Sunday’s matchup against the Saints. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Indochino, Harry’s and Shipstation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Recapping 49ers Loss to Ravens and Previewing Saints

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold, recapping the 49ers’ beatdown of the Packers in the NFC Championship.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold, recapping the 49ers’ beatdown of the Packers in the NFC Championship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Super Bowl Bound: Recapping 49ers’ beatdown of Packers

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ Week 8 domination of the Panthers and preview Thursday’s matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Harry’s Razors and ShipStation.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rob and Eric are back in their latest episode of Striking Gold. They break down the 49ers’ Week 8 domination of the Panthers and preview Thursday’s matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. Blue Wire thanks our partners for this week, Harry’s Razors and ShipStation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Recapping 49ers’ beatdown of Panthers and previewing Cardinals

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