**This is a deluxe rebroadcast of the "To Be Gay Affirming" episode**  In this “deluxe edition” of our original episode #10 (“To Be Gay Affirming”), Samantha Perez joins Dan for a special introduction on affirming churches, what progress is being made in Christian communities around LGBTQ issues, and changes in ethical plausibility structures — that is, what ethical approaches seem reasonable given a person or community’s changing circumstances over time. Be sure to also check out Samantha and Dan’s upcoming Patreon-only episode focused on her faith and gender journey.   Samantha's Twitter Handle @SkipSandwich https://www.skipsandwichdx.com/  ORIGINAL EPISODE DESCRIPTION: This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text—the Bible—that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument. Find an open &amp; affirming church: gaychurch.org Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI James Brownson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk _____________ For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

**This is a deluxe rebroadcast of the "To Be Gay Affirming" episode** In this “deluxe edition” of our original episode #10 (“To Be Gay Affirming”), Samantha Perez joins Dan for a special introduction on affirming churches, what progress is being made in Christian communities around LGBTQ issues, and changes in ethical plausibility structures — that is, what ethical approaches seem reasonable given a person or community’s changing circumstances over time. Be sure to also check out Samantha and Dan’s upcoming Patreon-only episode focused on her faith and gender journey.  Samantha's Twitter Handle @SkipSandwich <a href="https://www.skipsandwichdx.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.skipsandwichdx.com/</a> ORIGINAL EPISODE DESCRIPTION: This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text—the Bible—that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument. Find an open &amp; affirming church: <a href="http://gaychurch.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gaychurch.org</a> Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI</a> James Brownson’s book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk</a> _____________ For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Be Gay Affirming (Deluxe Edition) (#205)

In this last episode reviewing Shiny Happy People, Dan and Mark talk about their overall impressions of the series as well as the heavy-hitting episode topics. They discuss the surprising research on content/trigger warnings, the series’s insinuation that Josh Duggar’s sexual repression led to his eventual acting out, the Joshua Generation Project, and overall assumptions regarding the motives of those featured in the documentary, noting that people are often more psychologically complex than they initially seem.  For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Trigger warnings meta-review: https://osf.io/qav9m/download https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/why-predators-watch-child-pornography/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147756/ Religious priming review: https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~ara/Manuscripts/ReligiousPrimingMetaanalysis.pdf Culture War Christianity episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000434412065 Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/  Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...  Episode #122 - Authoritative vs. Nuturant Religion: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000525427433 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this last episode reviewing Shiny Happy People, Dan and Mark talk about their overall impressions of the series as well as the heavy-hitting episode topics. They discuss the surprising research on content/trigger warnings, the series’s insinuation that Josh Duggar’s sexual repression led to his eventual acting out, the Joshua Generation Project, and overall assumptions regarding the motives of those featured in the documentary, noting that people are often more psychologically complex than they initially seem. For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Trigger warnings meta-review: <a href="https://osf.io/qav9m/download" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://osf.io/qav9m/download</a> <a href="https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/why-predators-watch-child-pornography/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/why-predators-watch-child-pornography/</a> <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147756/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147756/</a> Religious priming review: <a href="https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~ara/Manuscripts/ReligiousPrimingMetaanalysis.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~ara/Manuscripts/ReligiousPrimingMetaanalysis.pdf</a> Culture War Christianity episode: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000434412065" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000434412065</a> Mark's Website: <a href="http://www.markscandrette.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.markscandrette.com/</a> Shiny Happy People Doc: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...</a> Episode #122 - Authoritative vs. Nuturant Religion: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000525427433" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000525427433</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Is "Shiny Happy People" Anti-Religion? (#204)

Even Jesus had anxiety in his life, so why are we so set on avoiding it? Theologian, author, and host of the Good Faith podcast Curtis Chang joins Dan to discuss his new book, The Anxiety Opportunity, and how we can navigate the (sometimes frightening) inevitability of loss and change. Instead of seeing anxiety as a problem to be solved by “praying” or “prescribing” it away, Curtis shows us how our feelings of uncertainty might serve as meaningful signposts in our lives.  For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com Curtis's Book "The Anxiety Opportunity": https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Opportunity-Worry-Doorway-Your/dp/031036728X/ref=asc_df_031036728X/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=642191822765&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=17439308303838533039&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=10...  """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Even Jesus had anxiety in his life, so why are we so set on avoiding it? Theologian, author, and host of the Good Faith podcast Curtis Chang joins Dan to discuss his new book, The Anxiety Opportunity, and how we can navigate the (sometimes frightening) inevitability of loss and change. Instead of seeing anxiety as a problem to be solved by “praying” or “prescribing” it away, Curtis shows us how our feelings of uncertainty might serve as meaningful signposts in our lives. For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com Curtis's Book "The Anxiety Opportunity": <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Opportunity-Worry-Doorway-Your/dp/031036728X/ref=asc_df_031036728X/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=642191822765&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=17439308303838533039&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1019973&amp;hvtargid=pla-1944921654866&amp;psc=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwib2mBhDWARIsAPZUn_l6I2uabw11-Fl0YD755G3725NgQrw6fvGG3FPLb_uMcPwmh_98T_saAq8WEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Opportunity-Worry-Doorway-Your/dp/031036728X/ref=asc_df_031036728X/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=642191822765&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=17439308303838533039&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=10...</a> """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Is Anxiety Always Bad? (#203)

In episode three of the Shiny Happy People series, the story turns from the general teachings of the Institute for Basic Life Principles to more specific instances of power and abuse, such as unpaid labor from the Duggar children and Bill Gothard's grooming of sexual assault victims. Dan and Mark offer their own PSAs on cults, “brainwashing,” and the difficulty of accurately assuming individual motivations.   For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com  PATREON EXCLUSIVE EPISODE: Dan and Mark go on to discuss who should take responsibility for power abuses like those that resulted from IBLP, as well as themes of celebrity and being a public person. Can we truly diversify heroes and role models? Join Patreon to hear more!  """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/  YHP EP #76 "When Spiritual Heroes are Sexual Predators (Jean Vanier)": https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000486949689  Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode three of the Shiny Happy People series, the story turns from the general teachings of the Institute for Basic Life Principles to more specific instances of power and abuse, such as unpaid labor from the Duggar children and Bill Gothard's grooming of sexual assault victims. Dan and Mark offer their own PSAs on cults, “brainwashing,” and the difficulty of accurately assuming individual motivations.  For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com PATREON EXCLUSIVE EPISODE: Dan and Mark go on to discuss who should take responsibility for power abuses like those that resulted from IBLP, as well as themes of celebrity and being a public person. Can we truly diversify heroes and role models? Join Patreon to hear more! """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: <a href="http://www.markscandrette.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.markscandrette.com/</a> YHP EP #76 "When Spiritual Heroes are Sexual Predators (Jean Vanier)": <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000486949689" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000486949689</a> Shiny Happy People Doc: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Shiny Happy People: Was Bill Gothard A Cult Leader? (#202)

Dan’s "infinity hangover", climate change, and the difference between psychiatrists and therapists: these are just some of the topics Kristen and Dan dig into in this Q&amp;A ep! What options for those looking for new spiritual homes? How did Dan meet Tony? Would Dan remain a Christian even if religion didn’t end up being a net positive for wellbeing? Step into the realm of experimental inquiry as we embark on this Q&amp;A adventure!  For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Resources: Gaychurch.org Churchclarity.com https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/register/ Meetup.com Values worksheet: https://www.actmindfully.com.au/upimages/VALUED_Living_Questionnaire_-_adapted.pdf Volunteermatch.org https://yecaction.org/  Articles mentioned: https://www.queertheology.com/community-after-leaving-church/ https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/4/18644764/church-religion-atheism-secularism https://psyarxiv.com/fsujg/ (Religious Residue)  Episodes mentioned:  YHP #103 with Mark Karris - Religious Disorientation &amp; Growth: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000508185614 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan’s "infinity hangover", climate change, and the difference between psychiatrists and therapists: these are just some of the topics Kristen and Dan dig into in this Q&amp;A ep! What options for those looking for new spiritual homes? How did Dan meet Tony? Would Dan remain a Christian even if religion didn’t end up being a net positive for wellbeing? Step into the realm of experimental inquiry as we embark on this Q&amp;A adventure! For individual therapy with Dan in Washington State: dancoke@gmail.com Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Resources: <a href="http://Gaychurch.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gaychurch.org</a> <a href="https://www.churchclarity.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Churchclarity.com</a> <a href="https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/register/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/register/</a> <a href="http://Meetup.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Meetup.com</a> Values worksheet: <a href="https://www.actmindfully.com.au/upimages/VALUED_Living_Questionnaire_-_adapted.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.actmindfully.com.au/upimages/VALUED_Living_Questionnaire_-_adapted.pdf</a> <a href="http://Volunteermatch.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Volunteermatch.org</a> <a href="https://yecaction.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://yecaction.org/</a> Articles mentioned: <a href="https://www.queertheology.com/community-after-leaving-church/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.queertheology.com/community-after-leaving-church/</a> <a href="https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/4/18644764/church-religion-atheism-secularism" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/4/18644764/church-religion-atheism-secularism</a> <a href="https://psyarxiv.com/fsujg/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://psyarxiv.com/fsujg/</a> (Religious Residue) Episodes mentioned:  YHP #103 with Mark Karris - Religious Disorientation &amp; Growth: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000508185614" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000508185614</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

What Should "Spiritual Exiles" Do Now? Q&A with Kristen (#201)

Episode 2 of Shiny Happy People depicts Gothard's obedience teaching and child discipline, including spanking and the “break their will” approach. Paired with a deep fear of God’s punishment, Dan and Mark discuss how violent approaches like spanking confuse children and can even cross the line into spiritual abuse. Part 2 (Patreon feed–subscribe to access) dives deeper into the “umbrellas of authority,” as well as grooming language and the sexual abuse as it occurred in the Duggar household.  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/  www.reimagine.org/#overview  YHP #37 - What Comes After Purity Culture?: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000450839620  More Purity Culture resources: https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/topics/sex-and-purity-culture  Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 2 of Shiny Happy People depicts Gothard's obedience teaching and child discipline, including spanking and the “break their will” approach. Paired with a deep fear of God’s punishment, Dan and Mark discuss how violent approaches like spanking confuse children and can even cross the line into spiritual abuse. Part 2 (Patreon feed–subscribe to access) dives deeper into the “umbrellas of authority,” as well as grooming language and the sexual abuse as it occurred in the Duggar household. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: <a href="http://www.markscandrette.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.markscandrette.com/</a> <a href="http://www.reimagine.org/#overview" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.reimagine.org/#overview</a> YHP #37 - What Comes After Purity Culture?: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000450839620" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000450839620</a> More Purity Culture resources: <a href="https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/topics/sex-and-purity-culture" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/topics/sex-and-purity-culture</a> Shiny Happy People Doc: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Shiny Happy People: Are Children Born Evil? (#200)

The link between science and Christianity is frequently misunderstood, or understood as being "in conflict." This doesn’t have to be! Greg Cootsona, returning guest and author of Science and Religions in America: A New Look (Rutledge, 2023), nuances our understanding of how Christianity and other religions interact with scientific developments, both in the present day and throughout history. Where do different religious traditions find commonality? How can Christians engage with other faiths? What should the "spiritual but not religious" do?  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off!  Greg’s book “Science and Religions in America A New Look”: https://www.routledge.com/Science-and-Religions-in-America-A-New-Look/Cootsona/p/book/9781032102122?gclid=CjwKCAjwtuOlBhBREiwA7agf1vmjwztgDGOEEE4DGAZeqno3MRFWuVgYGIaxPHhDeYV7WNtUjeZ9IRoCFlkQAvD_BwE  More books by Greg: https://www.routledge.com/search?author=Greg%20Cootsona Greg’s other episodes:  Hell &amp; Universalism in a Global Context #84: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000492798796  Church is Good for You #119: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000522907595    __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The link between science and Christianity is frequently misunderstood, or understood as being "in conflict." This doesn’t have to be! Greg Cootsona, returning guest and author of Science and Religions in America: A New Look (Rutledge, 2023), nuances our understanding of how Christianity and other religions interact with scientific developments, both in the present day and throughout history. Where do different religious traditions find commonality? How can Christians engage with other faiths? What should the "spiritual but not religious" do? Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! Greg’s book “Science and Religions in America A New Look”: <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Science-and-Religions-in-America-A-New-Look/Cootsona/p/book/9781032102122?gclid=CjwKCAjwtuOlBhBREiwA7agf1vmjwztgDGOEEE4DGAZeqno3MRFWuVgYGIaxPHhDeYV7WNtUjeZ9IRoCFlkQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.routledge.com/Science-and-Religions-in-America-A-New-Look/Cootsona/p/book/9781032102122?gclid=CjwKCAjwtuOlBhBREiwA7agf1vmjwztgDGOEEE4DGAZeqno3MRFWuVgYGIaxPHhDeYV7WNtUjeZ9IRoCFlkQAvD_BwE</a> More books by Greg: <a href="https://www.routledge.com/search?author=Greg%20Cootsona" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.routledge.com/search?author=Greg%20Cootsona</a> Greg’s other episodes: <ul> <li>Hell &amp; Universalism in a Global Context #84: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000492798796" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000492798796</a> </li> <li>Church is Good for You #119: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000522907595" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000522907595</a> </li> </ul> __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Are All Religions Weird About Science? (#199)

Welcome to Part 1 of this highly-requested series of response episodes to the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People. For these response episodes, Dan is joined by former Bill Gothard-ite Mark Scandrette. Much like the Duggar family of TLC reality series fame (“16 and Counting”), Mark was raised in the homeschool culture described in the SHP series and began his family life under Gothard’s teachings. Over the next few weeks, Dan and Mark will release four episodes, each in response to an episode of the Amazon series. This week, the two set up the context for the SHP and discuss episode one specifics, including the cultural influence and mindset of the Duggars (birth control does not cause miscarriages!), authority structures, the prosperity gospel, and homeschool culture. Dan also addresses some of the psychological realities at play: binary thinking, the fragility of purity culture, and healing through dialogue. Dan includes a "PSA" to address factual inaccuracies and misconceptions presented in the episode.  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/  Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Part 1 of this highly-requested series of response episodes to the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People. For these response episodes, Dan is joined by former Bill Gothard-ite Mark Scandrette. Much like the Duggar family of TLC reality series fame (“16 and Counting”), Mark was raised in the homeschool culture described in the SHP series and began his family life under Gothard’s teachings. Over the next few weeks, Dan and Mark will release four episodes, each in response to an episode of the Amazon series. This week, the two set up the context for the SHP and discuss episode one specifics, including the cultural influence and mindset of the Duggars (birth control does not cause miscarriages!), authority structures, the prosperity gospel, and homeschool culture. Dan also addresses some of the psychological realities at play: binary thinking, the fragility of purity culture, and healing through dialogue. Dan includes a "PSA" to address factual inaccuracies and misconceptions presented in the episode. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: <a href="http://www.markscandrette.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.markscandrette.com/</a> Shiny Happy People Doc: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFv...</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Shiny Happy People: Did Bill Gothard Create Pedophiles? (#198)

It’s natural to try to protect ourselves from perceived threats. Historically, this instinct has helped us survive and navigate risk. But sometimes, creating the feeling of safety, specifically in the midst of faith changes, can come at the cost of ignoring valuable parts of ourselves. Using the model of Internal Family Systems, author and therapist Molly LaCroix helps us learn to look at all parts of our internal “family” with compassion and realize that each part plays a crucial role.   Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp  mollylacroix.com  Molly’s Book “Restoring Relationship: Transforming Fear into Love Through Connection”: https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Relationship-Transforming-Through-Connection/dp/B08H3VDPG/ref=asc_df_B08KH3VDPG/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=509467422400&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=10079099000795160328&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9019667&amp;hvtargid=pla-1238153395654&amp;psc=1  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s natural to try to protect ourselves from perceived threats. Historically, this instinct has helped us survive and navigate risk. But sometimes, creating the feeling of safety, specifically in the midst of faith changes, can come at the cost of ignoring valuable parts of ourselves. Using the model of Internal Family Systems, author and therapist Molly LaCroix helps us learn to look at all parts of our internal “family” with compassion and realize that each part plays a crucial role.  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp <a href="http://mollylacroix.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mollylacroix.com</a> Molly’s Book “Restoring Relationship: Transforming Fear into Love Through Connection”: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Relationship-Transforming-Through-Connection/dp/B08H3VDPG/ref=asc_df_B08KH3VDPG/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=509467422400&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=10079099000795160328&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9019667&amp;hvtargid=pla-1238153395654&amp;psc=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Relationship-Transforming-Through-Connection/dp/B08H3VDPG/ref=asc_df_B08KH3VDPG/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=509467422400&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=10079099000795160328&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9019667&amp;hvtargid=pla-1238153395654&amp;psc=1</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Un-Shaming Each Part of Ourselves (#197)

Joining me today is author, professor (Toronto School of Theology), and theologian Natalie Wigg-Stevenson to discuss her book "Transgressive Devotion.” Natalie asks, "What theological claims are we making, and how are they contributing to how we keep producing theological knowledge?" Her free online “devotional” is made up of three modules, each of which we discuss: going from abandonment toward presence, from fear toward risk, and from certainty toward doubt.  Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout!  Natalie’s Book “Transgressive Devotion Theology as Performance Art in 2021” (Paperback): https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Devotion-Theology-Performance-Art/dp/033405947X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780334059479&amp;linkCode=qs&amp;qid=1687812111&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1  Natalie’s Faculty Page: https://www.tst.edu/directory/faculty/wigg-stevenson-natalie  ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joining me today is author, professor (Toronto School of Theology), and theologian Natalie Wigg-Stevenson to discuss her book "Transgressive Devotion.” Natalie asks, "What theological claims are we making, and how are they contributing to how we keep producing theological knowledge?" Her free online “devotional” is made up of three modules, each of which we discuss: going from abandonment toward presence, from fear toward risk, and from certainty toward doubt. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Natalie’s Book “Transgressive Devotion Theology as Performance Art in 2021” (Paperback): <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Devotion-Theology-Performance-Art/dp/033405947X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780334059479&amp;linkCode=qs&amp;qid=1687812111&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Devotion-Theology-Performance-Art/dp/033405947X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780334059479&amp;linkCode=qs&amp;qid=1687812111&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1</a> Natalie’s Faculty Page: <a href="https://www.tst.edu/directory/faculty/wigg-stevenson-natalie" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.tst.edu/directory/faculty/wigg-stevenson-natalie</a> ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/dancoke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/dancoke/</a> Or Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/DanKoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/DanKoch</a> Faith deconstruction resources: <a href="http://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.soyouredeconstructing.com/</a> Edited by Josh Gilbert (<a href="http://joshgilbertmedia.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">joshgilbertmedia.com</a> -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a> Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a> Website: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html</a> Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://www.dankochwords.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.dankochwords.com/</a> Artwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Re-Engaging a Problematic Faith (#196)

So many of us have been given bad answers to good questions -- questions about God, suffering, prayer, fate, science, justice, and more -- often by people with pure intentions. But we needn't stop with those pat answers. You have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very seriously, and this podcast will introduce you to people from across the Christian spectrum engaging these timeless and difficult questions in various ways.

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Seattle's own Dr. Tina Shermer Sellers (psychologist and sex therapist) joins Dan for a fascinating conversation about what is known as Purity Culture, that near-ubiquitous set of sexual-moral claims and practices that ruled the Evangelical zeitgeist in the 80s, 90s and 00s, and is still today probably the default sexual understanding of most American Protestants.  But is that understanding Biblical?  Does it accord well with what we are learning through science?  Why did it come to such prominence?  Does having premarital sex really take away "a piece of you" every time you do it, and what's with the double standards for boys and girls?  We get into it all, including a bunch of interesting listener questions.Later, Dan answers a patron question: "What is the Gospel, and how do you evangelize?" (1:30:00)SEXUAL SHAME is a visceral feeling of humiliation and disgust toward one's own body and identity as a sexual being and a belief of being abnormal inferior and unworthy. This feeling can be internalized but also manifests in interpersonal relationships having a negative impact on trust communication and physical and emotional intimacy sexual shame develops across the lifespan in interactions with interpersonal relationships one's culture and society and subsequent critical self appraisal.  there is also a fear and uncertainty related to one's power or right to make decisions including safety decisions related to sexual encounters along with an internalized judgment toward one's own sexual desire.Vow of Onah: http://tinaschermersellers.com/2011/02/12/the-vow-of-onah-and-other-jewish-attitudes-about-sex/Bible For Normal People purity culture episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-82-linda-kay-klein-breaking-free-from-purity/id1215420422?i=1000434395466Sex, Mom and God: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/sex-mom-and-god-how-the-bibles-strange-take-on-sex-led-to-crazy-politics--and-how-i-learned-to-love-women-and-jesus-anyway_frank-schaeffer/369821/#isbn=0306819287&amp;idiq=4395577Girls &amp; Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape: https://www.amazon.com/Girls-Sex-Navigating-Complicated-Landscape/dp/006220974480% of abstinence-only curricula contain serious erroneous information: https://rockthrower.blogs.com/rockthrower/files/20041201102153-50247.pdfhttp://tinaschermersellers.com/Thankgodforsex.orgNwioi.com - Northwest Institute on IntimacyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/drtinashamelesssex/Twitter: @tinassellersEdited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seattle's own Dr. Tina Shermer Sellers (psychologist and sex therapist) joins Dan for a fascinating conversation about what is known as Purity Culture, that near-ubiquitous set of sexual-moral claims and practices that ruled the Evangelical zeitgeist in the 80s, 90s and 00s, and is still today probably the default sexual understanding of most American Protestants. But is that understanding Biblical? Does it accord well with what we are learning through science? Why did it come to such prominence? Does having premarital sex really take away "a piece of you" every time you do it, and what's with the double standards for boys and girls? We get into it all, including a bunch of interesting listener questions.Later, Dan answers a patron question: "What is the Gospel, and how do you evangelize?" (1:30:00)SEXUAL SHAME is a visceral feeling of humiliation and disgust toward one's own body and identity as a sexual being and a belief of being abnormal inferior and unworthy. This feeling can be internalized but also manifests in interpersonal relationships having a negative impact on trust communication and physical and emotional intimacy sexual shame develops across the lifespan in interactions with interpersonal relationships one's culture and society and subsequent critical self appraisal. there is also a fear and uncertainty related to one's power or right to make decisions including safety decisions related to sexual encounters along with an internalized judgment toward one's own sexual desire.Vow of Onah: <a href="http://tinaschermersellers.com/2011/02/12/the-vow-of-onah-and-other-jewish-attitudes-about-sex/Bible" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinaschermersellers.com/2011/02/12/the-vow-of-onah-and-other-jewish-attitudes-about-sex/Bible</a> For Normal People purity culture episode: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-82-linda-kay-klein-breaking-free-from-purity/id1215420422?i=1000434395466Sex" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-82-linda-kay-klein-breaking-free-from-purity/id1215420422?i=1000434395466Sex</a>, Mom and God: <a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/sex-mom-and-god-how-the-bibles-strange-take-on-sex-led-to-crazy-politics--and-how-i-learned-to-love-women-and-jesus-anyway_frank-schaeffer/369821/#isbn=0306819287&amp;idiq=4395577Girls" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/sex-mom-and-god-how-the-bibles-strange-take-on-sex-led-to-crazy-politics--and-how-i-learned-to-love-women-and-jesus-anyway_frank-schaeffer/369821/#isbn=0306819287&amp;idiq=4395577Girls</a> &amp; Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Girls-Sex-Navigating-Complicated-Landscape/dp/006220974480%" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Girls-Sex-Navigating-Complicated-Landscape/dp/006220974480%</a> of abstinence-only curricula contain serious erroneous information: <a href="https://rockthrower.blogs.com/rockthrower/files/20041201102153-50247.pdfhttp://tinaschermersellers.com/Thankgodforsex.orgNwioi.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rockthrower.blogs.com/rockthrower/files/20041201102153-50247.pdfhttp://tinaschermersellers.com/Thankgodforsex.orgNwioi.com</a> - Northwest Institute on IntimacyInstagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drtinashamelesssex/Twitter:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/drtinashamelesssex/Twitter:</a> @tinassellersEdited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Critique Purity Culture (#22)

This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text -- the Bible -- that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument.Find an open &amp; affirming church: gaychurch.orgMargaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rIJames Brownson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirkSeth Roberts playlist: https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85QJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text -- the Bible -- that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument.Find an open &amp; affirming church: <a href="http://gaychurch.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gaychurch.org</a>Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI</a>James Brownson’s book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk</a>Seth Roberts playlist: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85Q" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85Q</a>Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankoch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankoch</a>YHP Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98</a>Website: <a href="http://youhavepermissionpod.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">youhavepermissionpod.com</a>Join Dan's email list: <a href="http://dankochwords.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dankochwords.com</a>Email Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Be Gay Affirming (#10)

This is the episode that some of you have been waiting 40-some episodes for. Many of you know that I identify as a universalist, meaning that I believe that everyone will be saved in the end, whatever we mean by the word “saved.” There are a lot of reasons that people believe in Hell, and there are a lot of reasons that people don’t. Many of those reasons, maybe even MOST of the reasons, I would argue have nothing to do with actual arguments or theological reasoning, or even a close reading of the Biblical text. Most reasons, I think, are psychological. Why people ACTUALLY believe in Hell, at a more psychological level, is a very interesting question, but not one that we are spending much time on today. This episode is about the arguments themselves. The most central question is: Does Hell make sense, given the God of Christianity? The next one is - how do we make sense of various sayings of Jesus that seem to teach a painful judgement? My guest today is Brad Jersak. Brad is a Canadian theologian, author, and pastor, and his book “Her Gates Will Never Be Shut” is widely considered one of the best treatments of this question. Our first 15 min or so are spent getting our bearings with the current landscape on this topic, including some term explaining, and introducing David Bentley Hart’s new book as a centerpiece of both our conversation, and the wider theological conversation. If you want to go straight to the arguments themselves, you could skip ahead to about 18:00.Hellbound? -- https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00D1NE8L0/ref=atv_dl_rdrThe Evangelical Universalist: https://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Universalist-Second-Gregory-MacDonald/dp/1620322390/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=evangelical+universalist&amp;qid=1572843722&amp;sr=8-1Her Gates Shall Never Be Shut: https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;adId=A09982251H1HAKCB4QUV8&amp;url=%2FHer-Gates-Will-Never-Shut-ebook%2Fdp%2FB00IGGZRJY%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fkeywords%3Dbrad%2Bjersak%26qid%3D1572843756%26sr%3D8-... https://www.amazon.com/Incarnation-Inclusion-Abba-Lamb/dp/1082461733/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-2A More Christlike God: https://www.amazon.com/More-Christlike-God-Beautiful-Gospel/dp/1889973165/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-3Athanasius, On the Incarnation: http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/theology/incarnation_st_athanasius.pdfRazing Hell: https://smile.amazon.com/Razing-Hell-Rethinking-Everything-Judgment/dp/0664236545/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sharon+baker+hell&amp;qid=1572843854&amp;sr=8-1Edited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the episode that some of you have been waiting 40-some episodes for. Many of you know that I identify as a universalist, meaning that I believe that everyone will be saved in the end, whatever we mean by the word “saved.” There are a lot of reasons that people believe in Hell, and there are a lot of reasons that people don’t. Many of those reasons, maybe even MOST of the reasons, I would argue have nothing to do with actual arguments or theological reasoning, or even a close reading of the Biblical text. Most reasons, I think, are psychological. Why people ACTUALLY believe in Hell, at a more psychological level, is a very interesting question, but not one that we are spending much time on today. This episode is about the arguments themselves. The most central question is: Does Hell make sense, given the God of Christianity? The next one is - how do we make sense of various sayings of Jesus that seem to teach a painful judgement? My guest today is Brad Jersak. Brad is a Canadian theologian, author, and pastor, and his book “Her Gates Will Never Be Shut” is widely considered one of the best treatments of this question. Our first 15 min or so are spent getting our bearings with the current landscape on this topic, including some term explaining, and introducing David Bentley Hart’s new book as a centerpiece of both our conversation, and the wider theological conversation. If you want to go straight to the arguments themselves, you could skip ahead to about 18:00.Hellbound? -- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00D1NE8L0/ref=atv_dl_rdrThe" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00D1NE8L0/ref=atv_dl_rdrThe</a> Evangelical Universalist: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Universalist-Second-Gregory-MacDonald/dp/1620322390/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=evangelical+universalist&amp;qid=1572843722&amp;sr=8-1Her" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Universalist-Second-Gregory-MacDonald/dp/1620322390/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=evangelical+universalist&amp;qid=1572843722&amp;sr=8-1Her</a> Gates Shall Never Be Shut: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;adId=A09982251H1HAKCB4QUV8&amp;url=%2FHer-Gates-Will-Never-Shut-ebook%2Fdp%2FB00IGGZRJY%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fkeywords%3Dbrad%2Bjersak%26qid%3D1572843756%26sr%3D8-1-spons%26psc%3D1&amp;qualifier=1572843755&amp;id=5413906602847107&amp;widgetName=sp_atfIn:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_aps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;adId=A09982251H1HAKCB4QUV8&amp;url=%2FHer-Gates-Will-Never-Shut-ebook%2Fdp%2FB00IGGZRJY%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fkeywords%3Dbrad%2Bjersak%26qid%3D1572843756%26sr%3D8-...</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Incarnation-Inclusion-Abba-Lamb/dp/1082461733/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-2A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Incarnation-Inclusion-Abba-Lamb/dp/1082461733/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-2A</a> More Christlike God: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/More-Christlike-God-Beautiful-Gospel/dp/1889973165/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-3Athanasius" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/More-Christlike-God-Beautiful-Gospel/dp/1889973165/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=brad+jersak&amp;qid=1572843756&amp;sr=8-3Athanasius</a>, On the Incarnation: <a href="http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/theology/incarnation_st_athanasius.pdfRazing" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/theology/incarnation_st_athanasius.pdfRazing</a> Hell: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Razing-Hell-Rethinking-Everything-Judgment/dp/0664236545/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sharon+baker+hell&amp;qid=1572843854&amp;sr=8-1Edited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Razing-Hell-Rethinking-Everything-Judgment/dp/0664236545/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sharon+baker+hell&amp;qid=1572843854&amp;sr=8-1Edited</a> by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

The Argument for Universal Salvation (#43)

What exactly is “purity culture,” and why is everyone talking about it?  Was it really so harmful?  Isn’t it pretty straightforward to not have sex until marriage?  Today’s guest Linda Key Klein has interviewed hundreds of young women about their experiences in and after purity culture, and she has written a fantastic book about it, “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free.”  But also, what comes AFTER purity culture?  Simply an “anything goes” sexual ethic, or something more robust and still identifiably "Christian"? Pure: https://smile.amazon.com/Pure-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1501124811/ref=sr_1_1?crid=369666CXFZDKC&amp;keywords=pure+linda+kay+klein&amp;qid=1569189472&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pure+linda%2Caps%2C211&amp;sr=8-1Linda’s personal site: https://lindakayklein.com/Edited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What exactly is “purity culture,” and why is everyone talking about it? Was it really so harmful? Isn’t it pretty straightforward to not have sex until marriage? Today’s guest Linda Key Klein has interviewed hundreds of young women about their experiences in and after purity culture, and she has written a fantastic book about it, “Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free.” But also, what comes AFTER purity culture? Simply an “anything goes” sexual ethic, or something more robust and still identifiably "Christian"? Pure: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Pure-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1501124811/ref=sr_1_1?crid=369666CXFZDKC&amp;keywords=pure+linda+kay+klein&amp;qid=1569189472&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pure+linda%2Caps%2C211&amp;sr=8-1Linda’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Pure-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1501124811/ref=sr_1_1?crid=369666CXFZDKC&amp;keywords=pure+linda+kay+klein&amp;qid=1569189472&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=pure+linda%2Caps%2C211&amp;sr=8-1Linda’s</a> personal site: <a href="https://lindakayklein.com/Edited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lindakayklein.com/Edited</a> by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

What Comes After Purity Culture? (#37)

Does the Bible teach a soft, "kind" version of patriarchy, or was patriarchy the unquestioned cultural backdrop of the Biblical text?  Does God proscribe a loving patriarchal system, or is God against it?  What does God call his daughters to be and do in the world?  Author Carolyn Custis James joins Dan to talk through her work in this area, which has massive implications for the Egalitarian vs. Complementarian debate.https://carolyncustisjames.com/Seth Roberts playlist: https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85QJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does the Bible teach a soft, "kind" version of patriarchy, or was patriarchy the unquestioned cultural backdrop of the Biblical text? Does God proscribe a loving patriarchal system, or is God against it? What does God call his daughters to be and do in the world? Author Carolyn Custis James joins Dan to talk through her work in this area, which has massive implications for the Egalitarian vs. Complementarian debate.https://<a href="http://carolyncustisjames.com/Seth" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">carolyncustisjames.com/Seth</a> Roberts playlist: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85QJoin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/user/dankoch/playlist/43QDpk1CQ098K2PpFcFVUy?si=BDa2luwVTC-GwdJpnXg85QJoin</a> the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Think Seriously About (Biblical) Patriarchy (#9)

“Human beings are primarily intrinsically sinful and evil.”“God’s truth can only be found in the Biblical text.”“The body and its desires are inherently wicked.”“Emotions are not to be honored and listened to; only God’s truth should be valued.”Mark Karris (author, therapist, professor at Point Loma Nazarene University) lists these among a group of claims that he believes are a part of “Toxic Christianity.” Mark and Dan talk through a number of these (false) claims, ask why it is that they get in the way of our relationship to God and our neighbors, and consider alternate options.Mark’s Original Post - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162264853155694&amp;set=pb.740175693.-2207520000.1571761815.&amp;type=3&amp;theaterMark’s website: http://markgregorykarris.com/Mark’s Amazon author page: https://smile.amazon.com/Mark-Gregory-Karris/e/B01MZZLNV5?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1573700786&amp;sr=8-1Deconversion Article Mark mentioned: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2v12uksryiwvscz/Breaking%20up%20with%20Jesus-%20a%20phenomenological%20exploration%20of%20the%20experience%20of%20deconversion%20from%20an%20Evangelical%20Christian%20faith%20to%20Atheism.pdf?dl=0Edited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Human beings are primarily intrinsically sinful and evil.”“God’s truth can only be found in the Biblical text.”“The body and its desires are inherently wicked.”“Emotions are not to be honored and listened to; only God’s truth should be valued.”Mark Karris (author, therapist, professor at Point Loma Nazarene University) lists these among a group of claims that he believes are a part of “Toxic Christianity.” Mark and Dan talk through a number of these (false) claims, ask why it is that they get in the way of our relationship to God and our neighbors, and consider alternate options.Mark’s Original Post - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162264853155694&amp;set=pb.740175693.-2207520000.1571761815.&amp;type=3&amp;theaterMark’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162264853155694&amp;set=pb.740175693.-2207520000.1571761815.&amp;type=3&amp;theaterMark’s</a> website: <a href="http://markgregorykarris.com/Mark’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://markgregorykarris.com/Mark’s</a> Amazon author page: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Mark-Gregory-Karris/e/B01MZZLNV5?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1573700786&amp;sr=8-1Deconversion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Mark-Gregory-Karris/e/B01MZZLNV5?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&amp;qid=1573700786&amp;sr=8-1Deconversion</a> Article Mark mentioned: <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/2v12uksryiwvscz/Breaking%20up%20with%20Jesus-%20a%20phenomenological%20exploration%20of%20the%20experience%20of%20deconversion%20from%20an%20Evangelical%20Christian%20faith%20to%20Atheism.pdf?dl=0Edited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/2v12uksryiwvscz/Breaking%20up%20with%20Jesus-%20a%20phenomenological%20exploration%20of%20the%20experience%20of%20deconversion%20from%20an%20Evangelical%20Christian%20faith%20to%20Atheism.pdf?dl=0Edited</a> by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

"Toxic Christianity" & Its Damaging Claims (#45)

Plus: a working definition of “Process Theology and “Robust Christian Pluralism." Dr. Wm. Andrew Schwartz (Claremont School of Theology) walks us through four possible answers to the question of whether all monotheistic Abrahamic believers are actually worshipping the same God, including arguments for and against and various consequences of each view.- The book: https://smile.amazon.com/Christians-Muslims-Jews-Worship-Same/dp/0310538033/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=four+views+christians+muslims+same+god&amp;qid=1578264136&amp;sr=8-1- Andrew’s site - wmandrewschwartz.comEdited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Plus: a working definition of “Process Theology and “Robust Christian Pluralism." Dr. Wm. Andrew Schwartz (Claremont School of Theology) walks us through four possible answers to the question of whether all monotheistic Abrahamic believers are actually worshipping the same God, including arguments for and against and various consequences of each view.- The book: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Christians-Muslims-Jews-Worship-Same/dp/0310538033/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=four+views+christians+muslims+same+god&amp;qid=1578264136&amp;sr=8-1-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Christians-Muslims-Jews-Worship-Same/dp/0310538033/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=four+views+christians+muslims+same+god&amp;qid=1578264136&amp;sr=8-1-</a> Andrew’s site - wmandrewschwartz.comEdited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Do Muslims, Jews & Christians Worship the Same God? (#49)

Richard Beck is a psychologist, professor, speaker and author of many books, right in what I consider to be the sweet spot: the overlap of psychology and Christian faith/theology. This is more or less where I am headed professionally, and it’s encouraging to have had a conversation like this one, so chock full of interesting, challenging, and inspiring stuff. We talk a good bit about disgust, which is a big factor in the impossibility of “love the sinner hate the sin,” but we also talk about spiritual practices and habits, Jesus and the Pharisees, and even placing cockroaches in orange juice. Later, I introduce a simple prayer practice I call The Protestant Rosary (1:26:00).Richard’s blog/site: http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/Directions for praying the "Protestant Rosary":1. Get a rosary2. Start where the three strands meet, near the cross, and pray one Jesus Prayer for each of the 10 beads before the spacer bead3. For the spacer bead, pray the Lord's Prayer4. Repeat until one "lap" of the rosary is finished.  Repeat if you so desire.Variation #1:For each of the 10 standard beads, pray for a person in your life, i.e. "Have mercy on Derek," and imagine God's mercy enveloping Derek.Variation #2:Like Variation #1, but use multiple beads for the same person, each time saying the same prayer, "Have mercy on Derek," but with each bead, focusing on a different aspect of Derek's life, like his work life, his faith, his relationship with a loved one, his health, etc.How to End:Madame Guyon recommends taking a moment to "swallow" or accept whatever God has given during the prayer time, even if this time nothing appears to have been given; be grateful for the silence and peace.The Jesus Prayer:"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me/us (a sinner)."Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard Beck is a psychologist, professor, speaker and author of many books, right in what I consider to be the sweet spot: the overlap of psychology and Christian faith/theology. This is more or less where I am headed professionally, and it’s encouraging to have had a conversation like this one, so chock full of interesting, challenging, and inspiring stuff. We talk a good bit about disgust, which is a big factor in the impossibility of “love the sinner hate the sin,” but we also talk about spiritual practices and habits, Jesus and the Pharisees, and even placing cockroaches in orange juice. Later, I introduce a simple prayer practice I call The Protestant Rosary (1:26:00).Richard’s blog/site: <a href="http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/Directions" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/Directions</a> for praying the "Protestant Rosary":1. Get a rosary2. Start where the three strands meet, near the cross, and pray one Jesus Prayer for each of the 10 beads before the spacer bead3. For the spacer bead, pray the Lord's Prayer4. Repeat until one "lap" of the rosary is finished. Repeat if you so desire.Variation #1:For each of the 10 standard beads, pray for a person in your life, i.e. "Have mercy on Derek," and imagine God's mercy enveloping Derek.Variation #2:Like Variation #1, but use multiple beads for the same person, each time saying the same prayer, "Have mercy on Derek," but with each bead, focusing on a different aspect of Derek's life, like his work life, his faith, his relationship with a loved one, his health, etc.How to End:Madame Guyon recommends taking a moment to "swallow" or accept whatever God has given during the prayer time, even if this time nothing appears to have been given; be grateful for the silence and peace.The Jesus Prayer:"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me/us (a sinner)."Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Why "Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin" Is Psychologically Impossible (#20)

One of the most divisive questions in the modern church is whether or not biological sex plays a role in who should be allowed to preach (and there are other issues wrapped up in this one, like whether women should be primary bread-winners, etc).  Egalitarians say, “No, let the women preach!” Complementarians say, “Yes, men only; that is how God set things up.”  In this episode, we hear from Dan’s Godmother Barb Clark, who is an elder in an Egalitarian church, but has some nagging concerns about the whole thing.  Then the bulk of the episode is spent with Rev. Bonnie Lewis, a pastor, teacher and Bible translator, who not only makes her argument for Egalitarianism, but also responds to many of the most common counter arguments from the Contemplentarian side.  Finally, we get Barb’s reaction to Dan’s chat with Bonnie.  This one is a doozy!BadChristian Podcast Dan/Bonnie episode (#438): http://www.badchristian.com/bc_podcast/bonnie-lewis-at-the-bcxcon/Bonnie’s “Timshel” translation: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945582321/timshel-an-idiomatic-bible-translationEdited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the most divisive questions in the modern church is whether or not biological sex plays a role in who should be allowed to preach (and there are other issues wrapped up in this one, like whether women should be primary bread-winners, etc). Egalitarians say, “No, let the women preach!” Complementarians say, “Yes, men only; that is how God set things up.” In this episode, we hear from Dan’s Godmother Barb Clark, who is an elder in an Egalitarian church, but has some nagging concerns about the whole thing. Then the bulk of the episode is spent with Rev. Bonnie Lewis, a pastor, teacher and Bible translator, who not only makes her argument for Egalitarianism, but also responds to many of the most common counter arguments from the Contemplentarian side. Finally, we get Barb’s reaction to Dan’s chat with Bonnie. This one is a doozy!BadChristian Podcast Dan/Bonnie episode (#438): <a href="http://www.badchristian.com/bc_podcast/bonnie-lewis-at-the-bcxcon/Bonnie’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.badchristian.com/bc_podcast/bonnie-lewis-at-the-bcxcon/Bonnie’s</a> “Timshel” translation: <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945582321/timshel-an-idiomatic-bible-translationEdited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945582321/timshel-an-idiomatic-bible-translationEdited</a> by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Be Egalitarian / Ordain Women (#29)

Many Christians are erroneously taught that either 1) Darwinian Evolution is true or 2) the Bible / the Gospel is true, but not both.  In fact, thousands of respected scientists are committed Christians, and thousands more are leaving their churches due to perceived conflicts between science and Christianity, especially in Evangelical Protestant circles.  In this episode, we hear from Amy Keeney, an Evangelical who is skeptical of some aspects of Darwinian theory, and we hear Adrian Wyard's story, how he went from devout young-earth creationist evangelist to accepting theistic evolution (and a whole lot of evidence and arguments along the way).Biologos.orgCounterbalance.orgThe Language of God: https://www.amazon.com/Language-God-Scientist-Presents-Evidence/dp/1416542744/ref=asc_df_1416542744/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312115051380&amp;hvpos=1o1&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=14652014232710692716&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocp... Darwin's God: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Darwins-God-Scientists-Evolution/dp/0061233501/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1547254356&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=finding+darwin%27s+godBARNA research: https://www.barna.com/research/six-reasons-young-christians-leave-church/Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochWebsite: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEdited by Scott Cangemi and Dan KochArtwork by sprungle.co Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many Christians are erroneously taught that either 1) Darwinian Evolution is true or 2) the Bible / the Gospel is true, but not both. In fact, thousands of respected scientists are committed Christians, and thousands more are leaving their churches due to perceived conflicts between science and Christianity, especially in Evangelical Protestant circles. In this episode, we hear from Amy Keeney, an Evangelical who is skeptical of some aspects of Darwinian theory, and we hear Adrian Wyard's story, how he went from devout young-earth creationist evangelist to accepting theistic evolution (and a whole lot of evidence and arguments along the way).Biologos.orgCounterbalance.orgThe Language of God: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Language-God-Scientist-Presents-Evidence/dp/1416542744/ref=asc_df_1416542744/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312115051380&amp;hvpos=1o1&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=14652014232710692716&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9033333&amp;hvtargid=pla-433853721827&amp;psc=1Finding" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Language-God-Scientist-Presents-Evidence/dp/1416542744/ref=asc_df_1416542744/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312115051380&amp;hvpos=1o1&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=14652014232710692716&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocp...</a> Darwin's God: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Darwins-God-Scientists-Evolution/dp/0061233501/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1547254356&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=finding+darwin%27s+godBARNA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Darwins-God-Scientists-Evolution/dp/0061233501/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1547254356&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=finding+darwin%27s+godBARNA</a> research: <a href="https://www.barna.com/research/six-reasons-young-christians-leave-church/Join" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.barna.com/research/six-reasons-young-christians-leave-church/Join</a> the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochWebsite:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochWebsite:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEdited by Scott Cangemi and Dan KochArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sprungle.co</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Accept Theistic Evolution (#2)

What better way to celebrate 50 episodes of YHP than to kick off a 4-part series on so-called “End Times” teaching/theology and mental health? As part of early research toward my doctoral dissertation in psychology, I conducted 20 interviews in August of 2019, collecting personal stories about how popular Christian notions of the End Times, like the Rapture, Tribulation, and the Left Behind series, affected people’s faith, theology, life trajectories, and overall mental health. This is Part 1 of 4, and it focuses on the basics, including what most Evangelicals understood would happen in the End Times, some of the ways that fear, anxiety and depression were tied up with it for many people, the connection between the end times, Hell, and salvation, a sense of a robbed childhood, mental health predispositions, family conflicts, and more. Come back for parts 2-4 in the coming weeks.Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What better way to celebrate 50 episodes of YHP than to kick off a 4-part series on so-called “End Times” teaching/theology and mental health? As part of early research toward my doctoral dissertation in psychology, I conducted 20 interviews in August of 2019, collecting personal stories about how popular Christian notions of the End Times, like the Rapture, Tribulation, and the Left Behind series, affected people’s faith, theology, life trajectories, and overall mental health. This is Part 1 of 4, and it focuses on the basics, including what most Evangelicals understood would happen in the End Times, some of the ways that fear, anxiety and depression were tied up with it for many people, the connection between the end times, Hell, and salvation, a sense of a robbed childhood, mental health predispositions, family conflicts, and more. Come back for parts 2-4 in the coming weeks.Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

End Times Anxiety: Part 1 (#50)

How do we parent our kids after faith deconstruction?  What if only one half of a couple is going through faith changes?  Can people of different faith traditions have healthy marriages?  How do I relate to my family, who haven’t had the same faith changes that I have, and who now think I’m going to Hell?  Is this what “unequally yoked” is actually supposed to mean?  This is a long, meaty episode, where we get into as many questions like these as possible (asked almost entirely by listeners of the show) with Dr. Doug Shirley, a psychotherapist who teaches at the Seattle School of Theology &amp; Psychology and specializes in questions like these in his own private practice.dougshirleyresearch.comHoly Longing: https://smile.amazon.com/Holy-Longing-Search-Christian-Spirituality-ebook/dp/B004DEPESM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=holy+longing&amp;qid=1570899882&amp;sr=8-1Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work: https://smile.amazon.com/Seven-Principles-Making-Marriage-Work/dp/0553447718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9XGS9DL4PJFO&amp;keywords=seven+principles+for+making+marriage+work&amp;qid=1570899898&amp;sprefix=seven+principles%2Caps%2C197&amp;sr=8-1Finite and Infinite Games: https://smile.amazon.com/Finite-Infinite-Games-James-Carse/dp/1476731713/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1N9D2WRINZTQJ&amp;keywords=finite+and+infinite+games+by+james+carse&amp;qid=1570899926&amp;sprefix=finite+and%2Caps%2C195&amp;sr=8-1The Sin of Certainty: https://smile.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/0062272098/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SZU6J7FT9FDZ&amp;keywords=sin+of+certainty&amp;qid=1570899914&amp;sprefix=sin+of+cer%2Caps%2C193&amp;sr=8-1Edited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do we parent our kids after faith deconstruction? What if only one half of a couple is going through faith changes? Can people of different faith traditions have healthy marriages? How do I relate to my family, who haven’t had the same faith changes that I have, and who now think I’m going to Hell? Is this what “unequally yoked” is actually supposed to mean? This is a long, meaty episode, where we get into as many questions like these as possible (asked almost entirely by listeners of the show) with Dr. Doug Shirley, a psychotherapist who teaches at the Seattle School of Theology &amp; Psychology and specializes in questions like these in his own private practice.dougshirleyresearch.comHoly Longing: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Holy-Longing-Search-Christian-Spirituality-ebook/dp/B004DEPESM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=holy+longing&amp;qid=1570899882&amp;sr=8-1Seven" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Holy-Longing-Search-Christian-Spirituality-ebook/dp/B004DEPESM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=holy+longing&amp;qid=1570899882&amp;sr=8-1Seven</a> Principles for Making Marriage Work: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Seven-Principles-Making-Marriage-Work/dp/0553447718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9XGS9DL4PJFO&amp;keywords=seven+principles+for+making+marriage+work&amp;qid=1570899898&amp;sprefix=seven+principles%2Caps%2C197&amp;sr=8-1Finite" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Seven-Principles-Making-Marriage-Work/dp/0553447718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9XGS9DL4PJFO&amp;keywords=seven+principles+for+making+marriage+work&amp;qid=1570899898&amp;sprefix=seven+principles%2Caps%2C197&amp;sr=8-1Finite</a> and Infinite Games: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Finite-Infinite-Games-James-Carse/dp/1476731713/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1N9D2WRINZTQJ&amp;keywords=finite+and+infinite+games+by+james+carse&amp;qid=1570899926&amp;sprefix=finite+and%2Caps%2C195&amp;sr=8-1The" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Finite-Infinite-Games-James-Carse/dp/1476731713/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1N9D2WRINZTQJ&amp;keywords=finite+and+infinite+games+by+james+carse&amp;qid=1570899926&amp;sprefix=finite+and%2Caps%2C195&amp;sr=8-1The</a> Sin of Certainty: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/0062272098/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SZU6J7FT9FDZ&amp;keywords=sin+of+certainty&amp;qid=1570899914&amp;sprefix=sin+of+cer%2Caps%2C193&amp;sr=8-1Edited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/0062272098/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SZU6J7FT9FDZ&amp;keywords=sin+of+certainty&amp;qid=1570899914&amp;sprefix=sin+of+cer%2Caps%2C193&amp;sr=8-1Edited</a> by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Faith Changes & Marriage, Family, Kids, Divorce and Dating (#40)

*How exactly* does Christ's death and resurrection make people right with God? Author and journalist Bonnie Kristian walks Dan through 5 of the most popular and historic answers to that question.  Many of us (especially Baptist/Calvinist/Reformed Christians) have been told there is only one such Atonement theory -- Penal Substitution -- but that isn't the case.  Bonnie and Dan discuss Christus Victor, Satisfaction Theory, Moral Exemplar, Penal Substitution, and Scapegoat Theory.Concentric Circles Image: https://stuarthoughton.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/greg-boyd-concentric-circles.png"A Flexible Faith" (on sale): https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithOpen Relational Reading Group - http://openandrelationaltheology.com/BadChristian Con, February 15-17 in Dallas - badchristiancon.comDiscussion Questions:- What theory of the atonement is most familiar to you? Which one did your Sunday school teachers tell you?- Which do you find most appealing and why? Which do you find most convincing and why? (If those aren’t the same, why?)- How would you explain to someone totally unfamiliar with Christianity how Jesus is dying means that we can be saved?- Which theory makes the most sense in our current culture?Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*How exactly* does Christ's death and resurrection make people right with God? Author and journalist Bonnie Kristian walks Dan through 5 of the most popular and historic answers to that question. Many of us (especially Baptist/Calvinist/Reformed Christians) have been told there is only one such Atonement theory -- Penal Substitution -- but that isn't the case. Bonnie and Dan discuss Christus Victor, Satisfaction Theory, Moral Exemplar, Penal Substitution, and Scapegoat Theory.Concentric Circles Image: <a href="https://stuarthoughton.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/greg-boyd-concentric-circles.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://stuarthoughton.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/greg-boyd-concentric-circles.png</a>"A Flexible Faith" (on sale): <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithOpen" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithOpen</a> Relational Reading Group - <a href="http://openandrelationaltheology.com/BadChristian" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://openandrelationaltheology.com/BadChristian</a> Con, February 15-17 in Dallas - badchristiancon.comDiscussion Questions:- What theory of the atonement is most familiar to you? Which one did your Sunday school teachers tell you?- Which do you find most appealing and why? Which do you find most convincing and why? (If those aren’t the same, why?)- How would you explain to someone totally unfamiliar with Christianity how Jesus is dying means that we can be saved?- Which theory makes the most sense in our current culture?Join the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Consider *ALL* the Atonement Theories (#6)

it isn't as nerdy as it sounds, but... I spoke with Reverend Doctor Catherine Kelsey about the beginnings of what today we would call liberal Christianity, through the work of the theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher. His way of thinking about the experience of faith has really been resonating with me lately, and Cathie wrote a great simple book about that topic. She is also quite pastoral, and I was surprised how healing and challenging our conversation ended up being.Will and Spirit: https://www.amazon.com/Will-Spirit-Contemplative-Gerald-May/dp/0062505823/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=Thinking about Christ with Schleiermacher: https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Christ-Schleiermacher-Catherine-Kelsey/dp/0664225942/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=thinking+about+christ+with+schleiermacher&amp;qid=1582070228&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1Instagram: @dancokeTwitter: @dankochEdited by Laura KondourajianJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

it isn't as nerdy as it sounds, but... I spoke with Reverend Doctor Catherine Kelsey about the beginnings of what today we would call liberal Christianity, through the work of the theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher. His way of thinking about the experience of faith has really been resonating with me lately, and Cathie wrote a great simple book about that topic. She is also quite pastoral, and I was surprised how healing and challenging our conversation ended up being.Will and Spirit: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Will-Spirit-Contemplative-Gerald-May/dp/0062505823/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=Thinking" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Will-Spirit-Contemplative-Gerald-May/dp/0062505823/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=Thinking</a> about Christ with Schleiermacher: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Christ-Schleiermacher-Catherine-Kelsey/dp/0664225942/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=thinking+about+christ+with+schleiermacher&amp;qid=1582070228&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1Instagram:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Christ-Schleiermacher-Catherine-Kelsey/dp/0664225942/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=thinking+about+christ+with+schleiermacher&amp;qid=1582070228&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1Instagram:</a> @dancokeTwitter: @dankochEdited by Laura KondourajianJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Liberal Christianity's Origin Story (#56)

Dan is re-joined by Bonnie Kristian (author of "A Flexible Faith") to talk through the various ways that Christians think about Biblical inspiration (and just what kind of "errors" might be in there).  As you know from episode 6, Bonnie is a great guest, and has really done her research on these topics!  Also, Dan corrects something from last week regarding his "Protestant Rosary" segment, shares some thoughts about the theological consequences of how we process the sudden passing of Christian author and thinker Rachel Held Evans, and he answers a listener question: "How do you navigate conversations with conservative friends/family as you deconstruct?"Corrections / Rachel Held Evans: 2:00Inerrancy, Infallibility, Inspiration: 10:00Listener Question: 1:19:00Bonnie's Discussion Questions:- Which view of scripture is most familiar to you? Which one did your Sunday school teachers tell you?- Which perspective do you find most appealing and why? Most convincing?- Is the view you find more convincing the same as the one you find appealing?  Why/why not?- How authoritative is the Bible in your life and faith? How does it interact with church tradition, reason, and personal experience?- What is at stake in how you understand the inspiration of Scripture, and should your view influence your reading and studying of the Bible?"A Flexible Faith": https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithEdited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan is re-joined by Bonnie Kristian (author of "A Flexible Faith") to talk through the various ways that Christians think about Biblical inspiration (and just what kind of "errors" might be in there). As you know from episode 6, Bonnie is a great guest, and has really done her research on these topics! Also, Dan corrects something from last week regarding his "Protestant Rosary" segment, shares some thoughts about the theological consequences of how we process the sudden passing of Christian author and thinker Rachel Held Evans, and he answers a listener question: "How do you navigate conversations with conservative friends/family as you deconstruct?"Corrections / Rachel Held Evans: 2:00Inerrancy, Infallibility, Inspiration: 10:00Listener Question: 1:19:00Bonnie's Discussion Questions:- Which view of scripture is most familiar to you? Which one did your Sunday school teachers tell you?- Which perspective do you find most appealing and why? Most convincing?- Is the view you find more convincing the same as the one you find appealing? Why/why not?- How authoritative is the Bible in your life and faith? How does it interact with church tradition, reason, and personal experience?- What is at stake in how you understand the inspiration of Scripture, and should your view influence your reading and studying of the Bible?"A Flexible Faith": <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithEdited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Flexible-Faith-Rethinking-Means-Follow/dp/1478992093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548661564&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=a+flexible+faithEdited</a> by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Consider Inerrancy, Infallibility & Inspiration (#21)

Dan sits down with friend and philosopher Matthew Benton (Seattle Pacific University) to talk through five common questions that come up commonly with undergraduate students at his Christian university:- How could a loving God send anyone to Hell?- Why is there so much religious diversity if one religion is (most) true?- If there is a loving God, why is there so much evil and suffering in the world?- Why isn't there stronger evidence for God's existence?- What are the right ways to interpret the Bible? (On which issues?)“Hell &amp; the God of Justice:” https://www.dropbox.com/s/54aaammsvsn28hx/MMAdams1975.pdf?dl=0Matt’s faculty page: https://spu.edu/academics/college-of-arts-sciences/philosophy/faculty-staff/benton-matthewEdited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan sits down with friend and philosopher Matthew Benton (Seattle Pacific University) to talk through five common questions that come up commonly with undergraduate students at his Christian university:- How could a loving God send anyone to Hell?- Why is there so much religious diversity if one religion is (most) true?- If there is a loving God, why is there so much evil and suffering in the world?- Why isn't there stronger evidence for God's existence?- What are the right ways to interpret the Bible? (On which issues?)“Hell &amp; the God of Justice:” <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/54aaammsvsn28hx/MMAdams1975.pdf?dl=0Matt’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/54aaammsvsn28hx/MMAdams1975.pdf?dl=0Matt’s</a> faculty page: <a href="https://spu.edu/academics/college-of-arts-sciences/philosophy/faculty-staff/benton-matthewEdited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://spu.edu/academics/college-of-arts-sciences/philosophy/faculty-staff/benton-matthewEdited</a> by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Evil, Hell, & Evidence for God at a Christian College (#54)

Did God really command the complete slaughter of everyone living in the Promised Land (men, women and children)?  Would a loving God ever allow Israelite soldiers to take on additional wives as war widows (if they found them attractive and if they proved themselves to be sexually pleasing)?  For 2,000 years, Christian thinkers and Biblical scholars have wrestled with difficult Old Testament passages that seem to show a violent and unloving God, one that seems to contrast sharply with other descriptions of God in the OT.  Dr. Eric Seibert joins Dan to talk through this landscape of passages and problems, and to explain 14 distinct approaches that Christians have taken in dealing with them.  Later, Dan answers a listener question: “What do you think of the whole #emptythepews movement?” (1:42:00)Eric’s book (The Violence of Scripture): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0800698258/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i1Nuclear Taboo article: https://news.stanford.edu/2017/08/08/americans-weigh-nuclear-war/Edited by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did God really command the complete slaughter of everyone living in the Promised Land (men, women and children)? Would a loving God ever allow Israelite soldiers to take on additional wives as war widows (if they found them attractive and if they proved themselves to be sexually pleasing)? For 2,000 years, Christian thinkers and Biblical scholars have wrestled with difficult Old Testament passages that seem to show a violent and unloving God, one that seems to contrast sharply with other descriptions of God in the OT. Dr. Eric Seibert joins Dan to talk through this landscape of passages and problems, and to explain 14 distinct approaches that Christians have taken in dealing with them. Later, Dan answers a listener question: “What do you think of the whole #emptythepews movement?” (1:42:00)Eric’s book (The Violence of Scripture): <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0800698258/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i1Nuclear" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0800698258/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i1Nuclear</a> Taboo article: <a href="https://news.stanford.edu/2017/08/08/americans-weigh-nuclear-war/Edited" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://news.stanford.edu/2017/08/08/americans-weigh-nuclear-war/Edited</a> by Scott CangemiJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Question the Canaanite Conquest & Divine Violence (#30)

Just in time for Halloween (not on purpose actually!)... What exactly is the "supernatural"? When God does something in the natural world, is that the same thing as saying that God broke the laws of physics? Theologian Thomas Jay oord helps Dan explore these questions, and whether or not it makes more sense to think of the “natural” and “supernatural” as essentially no different from one another.  Or in Tom’s words, “For every event that happens in the world, there are both divine and creaturely causes.”  They consider some possible ramifications of this move, including the resurrection of Jesus, miracles, the inspiration of Scripture, the life to come, and more.Tom’s website, including links to his books: http://thomasjayoord.com/Citizens - “Fear” (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/album/0abL7FZysjxpaxEPURpBsl Edited by Laura Kondourajian Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just in time for Halloween (not on purpose actually!)... What exactly is the "supernatural"? When God does something in the natural world, is that the same thing as saying that God broke the laws of physics? Theologian Thomas Jay oord helps Dan explore these questions, and whether or not it makes more sense to think of the “natural” and “supernatural” as essentially no different from one another. Or in Tom’s words, “For every event that happens in the world, there are both divine and creaturely causes.” They consider some possible ramifications of this move, including the resurrection of Jesus, miracles, the inspiration of Scripture, the life to come, and more.Tom’s website, including links to his books: <a href="http://thomasjayoord.com/Citizens" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://thomasjayoord.com/Citizens</a> - “Fear” (Spotify): <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/0abL7FZysjxpaxEPURpBsl" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/album/0abL7FZysjxpaxEPURpBsl</a> Edited by Laura Kondourajian Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Is the “Supernatural” Actually Just Natural? (#42)

This week (partly since I will be out of town next weekend) we are getting a doozy of an episode with Dr. Kyle Roberts (Dean of United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities) about progressive Christianity.  What is it?  Can we get a 30,000 ft view of what it looks like to be in this world?  Can a progressive Christian still affirm the Trinity, Christ’s resurrection, and more?  How might a progressive Christian think about atonement, Biblical inerrancy, the meaning of salvation, sexual inclusion?  Kyle is here to help us out, and my friend Ben Keeney is also here to help, playing the role of a low-grade skeptic of this particular understanding of Christianity.Kyle’s Book “A Complicated Pregnancy”: https://smile.amazon.com/Complicated-Pregnancy-Whether-Virgin-Matters/dp/1506406246/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857844&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1Kyle’s co-written Matthew commentary: https://smile.amazon.com/Matthew-Two-Horizons-Testament-Commentary/dp/0802825664/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857870&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2A good progressive Christian podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040?mt=2BC Con, Dallas, Feb 15-17: badchristiancon.comJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week (partly since I will be out of town next weekend) we are getting a doozy of an episode with Dr. Kyle Roberts (Dean of United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities) about progressive Christianity. What is it? Can we get a 30,000 ft view of what it looks like to be in this world? Can a progressive Christian still affirm the Trinity, Christ’s resurrection, and more? How might a progressive Christian think about atonement, Biblical inerrancy, the meaning of salvation, sexual inclusion? Kyle is here to help us out, and my friend Ben Keeney is also here to help, playing the role of a low-grade skeptic of this particular understanding of Christianity.Kyle’s Book “A Complicated Pregnancy”: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Complicated-Pregnancy-Whether-Virgin-Matters/dp/1506406246/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857844&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1Kyle’s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Complicated-Pregnancy-Whether-Virgin-Matters/dp/1506406246/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857844&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1Kyle’s</a> co-written Matthew commentary: <a href="https://smile.amazon.com/Matthew-Two-Horizons-Testament-Commentary/dp/0802825664/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857870&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://smile.amazon.com/Matthew-Two-Horizons-Testament-Commentary/dp/0802825664/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=kyle+roberts&amp;qid=1549857870&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2A</a> good progressive Christian podcast: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040?mt=2BC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040?mt=2BC</a> Con, Dallas, Feb 15-17: badchristiancon.comJoin the Patreon for bonus episodes every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comEmail Dan: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Be Theologically Progressive (#8)

Dustin Kensrue

Is experience potentially a direct pathway to the God of the universe? Or is it simply “the heart [being] deceitful above all things”? Can we trust our spiritual experience, and if so, which experiences are trustworthy?  This topic was recommended by my guest Dustin Kensrue (singer/songwriter of the band Thrice, former worship director at Mars Hill Church in Seattle), and I jumped at it.  In today’s episode, we go through Dustin’s own story, from young Christian punk rocker, to prominent Neo-Calvinist, to church scandal whistleblower (sort of), to reconstructed liberal Christian, all the while considering the role of experience in that journey.Check out Dustin's new podcast Carry the Fire wherever you get your podcasts.Edited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochYHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is experience potentially a direct pathway to the God of the universe? Or is it simply “the heart [being] deceitful above all things”? Can we trust our spiritual experience, and if so, which experiences are trustworthy? This topic was recommended by my guest Dustin Kensrue (singer/songwriter of the band Thrice, former worship director at Mars Hill Church in Seattle), and I jumped at it. In today’s episode, we go through Dustin’s own story, from young Christian punk rocker, to prominent Neo-Calvinist, to church scandal whistleblower (sort of), to reconstructed liberal Christian, all the while considering the role of experience in that journey.Check out Dustin's new podcast Carry the Fire wherever you get your podcasts.Edited by Josh Gilbert (Gwall.Gilbert11@gmail.com)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: <a href="http://patreon.com/dankochYHP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com/dankochYHP</a> Patron-only FB group: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website:</a> youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by <a href="http://sprungle.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sprungle.co/</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

To Trust Your Experience (Dustin Kensrue) (#38)

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