This week I am joined again by Scientology veteran and film maker Mitch Brisker to discuss something NO ONE has ever talked about before, at least not anywhere I could find: the confidential L. Ron Hubbard films on Scientology’s OT Levels. We go into some of the details of the films, what it took to restore them and a lot more from there. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #398: From Clear to Eternity – Scientology’s OT Films appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined again by Scientology veteran and film maker Mitch Brisker to discuss something NO ONE has ever talked about before, at least not anywhere I could find: the confidential L. Ron Hubbard films on Scientology’s OT Levels. We go into some of the details of the films, what it took to restore them and a lot more from there. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/08/05/sensibly-speaking-podcast-398-from-clear-to-eternity-scientologys-ot-films/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #398: From Clear to Eternity – Scientology’s OT Films</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#398: From Clear to Eternity - Scientology's OT FIlms ft. Mitch Brisker

Coercive control is not just isolated to cults. This week we go on a different tangent to explore coercive control in the adoption system and in unethical therapy – two areas that are hardly ever discussed but in which abuses happen daily. I am joined by Emma Stevens, who opens up about her experiences and shares why the coercion she had to grow up with have stayed with her to this day.The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #397: When Therapists are Predators ft. Emma Stevens appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

Coercive control is not just isolated to cults. This week we go on a different tangent to explore coercive control in the adoption system and in unethical therapy – two areas that are hardly ever discussed but in which abuses happen daily. I am joined by Emma Stevens, who opens up about her experiences and shares why the coercion she had to grow up with have stayed with her to this day.The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/07/29/sensibly-speaking-podcast-397-when-therapists-are-predators-ft-emma-stevens/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #397: When Therapists are Predators ft. Emma Stevens</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#397: When Therapists are Predators ft. Emma Stevens

This week I have Mitch Brisker back to discuss more of his work for the Church of Scientology as a professional film director and creative. Today, we go deep into Church propaganda, psychiatry, working at Golden Era Productions and a lot more. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #396: The Art of Propaganda appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I have Mitch Brisker back to discuss more of his work for the Church of Scientology as a professional film director and creative. Today, we go deep into Church propaganda, psychiatry, working at Golden Era Productions and a lot more. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/07/22/sensibly-speaking-podcast-396-the-art-of-propaganda/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #396: The Art of Propaganda</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#396: The Art of Propaganda ft. Mitch Brisker

This week I am joined by pyschologist and author Dr. Robin Stern to discuss her specialty, gaslighting. We cover how this is done, how to spot it when it’s happening to you (even if it’s from someone you like and admire) and how gaslighting is used in cults like Scientology to literally rewrite one’s memories. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #395: Gaslighting In and Out of Cults ft. Dr. Robin Stern appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by pyschologist and author Dr. Robin Stern to discuss her specialty, gaslighting. We cover how this is done, how to spot it when it’s happening to you (even if it’s from someone you like and admire) and how gaslighting is used in cults like Scientology to literally rewrite one’s memories. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/07/15/sensibly-speaking-podcast-395-gaslighting-in-and-out-of-cults-ft-dr-robin-stern/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #395: Gaslighting In and Out of Cults ft. Dr. Robin Stern</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#395: Gaslighting In and Out of Cults ft. Dr. Robin Stern

Jon Atack

This week I am joined by long-time friend and researcher Jon Atack to discuss cancel culture, controversies, cult nonsense and science – a broad mix of topics about which Jon and I have many opinions. We hope you like our discussion as much as we did having it. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #374: Controversies, Cults and Science appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by long-time friend and researcher Jon Atack to discuss cancel culture, controversies, cult nonsense and science – a broad mix of topics about which Jon and I have many opinions. We hope you like our discussion as much as we did having it. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/07/08/sensibly-speaking-podcast-374-controversies-cults-and-science/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #374: Controversies, Cults and Science</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#374: Controversies, Cults and Science ft. Jon Atack

This week I am joined by Mitch Brisker, a professional film maker who went to work as a non-Sea Org member back in the 1980s and worked for decades directly under David Miscavige. He has some very interesting things to say about his time, Scientology’s leader and the culture he observed. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #393: Sex, Lies and Scientology Films ft. Mitch Brisker appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by Mitch Brisker, a professional film maker who went to work as a non-Sea Org member back in the 1980s and worked for decades directly under David Miscavige. He has some very interesting things to say about his time, Scientology’s leader and the culture he observed. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/07/01/sensibly-speaking-podcast-393-sex-lies-and-scientology-films-ft-mitch-brisker/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #393: Sex, Lies and Scientology Films ft. Mitch Brisker</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#393: Sex, Lies and Scientology Films ft. Mitch Brisker

This week I am joined by Kate Amber, MSc educator and fellow graduate of the Salford Master’s program on the psychology of coercive control, to discuss what she has been doing to work with medical and law enforcement officials on coercive control and her unique model of that behavior. I hope you enjoy this one as much as we did putting it together.The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #392: A New Look at Coercive Control appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by Kate Amber, MSc educator and fellow graduate of the Salford Master’s program on the psychology of coercive control, to discuss what she has been doing to work with medical and law enforcement officials on coercive control and her unique model of that behavior. I hope you enjoy this one as much as we did putting it together.The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/06/24/sensibly-speaking-podcast-392-a-new-look-at-coercive-control/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #392: A New Look at Coercive Control</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#392: A New Look at Coercive Control ft. Kate Amber, MSc

This week I am joined by Dr. Janja Lalich, sociologist and long-time cult warrior who has a great deal to say about her model of “bounded choice,” cultic influence in society, recovery from these groups and a lot more. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #391: Cult Influence and Recovery appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by Dr. Janja Lalich, sociologist and long-time cult warrior who has a great deal to say about her model of “bounded choice,” cultic influence in society, recovery from these groups and a lot more. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/06/17/sensibly-speaking-podcast-391-cult-influence-and-recovery/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #391: Cult Influence and Recovery</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#391: Cult Influence and Recovery ft. Dr. Janja Lalich

This week I am joined by show favorite Jon Atack to discuss a model of human behavior I’ve been formulating which has everything to do with cultic behavior and our thoughts on things related to emotion, reason and morality. This was a fun chat and I hope you find it as informative and entertaining as we did having it. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #390: Why Do People Act the Way They Do? appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by show favorite Jon Atack to discuss a model of human behavior I’ve been formulating which has everything to do with cultic behavior and our thoughts on things related to emotion, reason and morality. This was a fun chat and I hope you find it as informative and entertaining as we did having it. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/06/10/sensibly-speaking-podcast-390-why-do-people-act-the-way-they-do/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #390: Why Do People Act the Way They Do?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#390: Why Do People Act the Way They Do? ft. Jon Atack

Jason Horvatic

This week I am joined by Jason Horvatic, a second-generation and now ex-Scientologist turned academic who has taken on studying Scientology from an interesting perspective but who also has a horrifying story to tell about his treatment growing up in and working for Scientology in Australia, including as a Sea Org member there. This is a really long podcast and we covered a lot of territory. Enjoy!The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #389: The Scientology Experience in Australia appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am joined by Jason Horvatic, a second-generation and now ex-Scientologist turned academic who has taken on studying Scientology from an interesting perspective but who also has a horrifying story to tell about his treatment growing up in and working for Scientology in Australia, including as a Sea Org member there. This is a really long podcast and we covered a lot of territory. Enjoy!The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2023/06/03/sensibly-speaking-podcast-389-the-scientology-experience-in-australia/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #389: The Scientology Experience in Australia</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

#389: The Scientology Experience in Australia ft. Jason Horvatic

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Leah Remini

This week I have very special guest Leah Remini on board to talk about Scientology, a little about the upcoming Season 3 of Scientology and the Aftermath, her personal transition and recovery from her old group and a lot more. Leah is the star of King of Queens and Kevin Can Wait and the co-creator of the Emmy-award winning TV series Scientology and the Aftermath on A&amp;E which has just been renewed for a third season. Aftermath Foundation: http://theaftermathfoundation.org/ The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #134: Leah Remini Talks Scientology and Cult Recovery appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I have very special guest Leah Remini on board to talk about Scientology, a little about the upcoming Season 3 of Scientology and the Aftermath, her personal transition and recovery from her old group and a lot more. Leah is the star of King of Queens and Kevin Can Wait and the co-creator of the Emmy-award winning TV series Scientology and the Aftermath on A&amp;E which has just been renewed for a third season. Aftermath Foundation: <a href="http://theaftermathfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://theaftermathfoundation.org/</a> The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/03/24/sensibly-speaking-podcast-134-leah-remini-talks-scientology-and-cult-recovery/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #134: Leah Remini Talks Scientology and Cult Recovery</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Leah Remini Talks Scientology and Cult Recovery

Ron Miscavige

This week I talk with Ron Miscavige Snr, former Scientologist and Sea Org member and also the father of Scientology’s current leader, David MIscavige. We discuss life on the Sea Org base in Riverside as well as his impressions of Shelly Miscavige, his history as a salesman both in and out of the Church and more. Ron’s website is here. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #152: Scientology, Sales and Shelly ft. Ron Miscavige Snr. appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I talk with Ron Miscavige Snr, former Scientologist and Sea Org member and also the father of Scientology’s current leader, David MIscavige. We discuss life on the Sea Org base in Riverside as well as his impressions of Shelly Miscavige, his history as a salesman both in and out of the Church and more. Ron’s website is <a href="http://therealronmiscavige.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/08/04/sensibly-speaking-podcast-152-scientology-sales-and-shelly-ft-ron-miscavige-snr/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #152: Scientology, Sales and Shelly ft. Ron Miscavige Snr.</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Scientology, Sales and Shelly ft. Ron Miscavige Snr.

This week, I tell the entire story of how I was a Scientologist and ended up in the Sea Org and what factors and events made me realize I needed to leave. I’ve told parts of this before but never the whole story. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #169: How I Left Scientology Forever appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week, I tell the entire story of how I was a Scientologist and ended up in the Sea Org and what factors and events made me realize I needed to leave. I’ve told parts of this before but never the whole story. Enjoy! The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/12/01/sensibly-speaking-podcast-169-how-i-left-scientology-forever/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #169: How I Left Scientology Forever</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

How I Left Scientology Forever

In this special extended-length interview with Jon Atack, we talk about the beginning of Dianetics and where Hubbard plagiarzied the procedure from, the vagaries of Scientology and the specific details of the Fair Gaming Jon endured at the hands of the Church. We then talk about how Scientology radicalizes its members by turning their empathy against others and how this relates to how terrorists are made, and how people can be de-radicalized using straight information and rational discourse. Open Minds Foundation’s website is here. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #105: Scientology Fair Gaming and Recovery ft. Jon Atack appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

In this special extended-length interview with Jon Atack, we talk about the beginning of Dianetics and where Hubbard plagiarzied the procedure from, the vagaries of Scientology and the specific details of the Fair Gaming Jon endured at the hands of the Church. We then talk about how Scientology radicalizes its members by turning their empathy against others and how this relates to how terrorists are made, and how people can be de-radicalized using straight information and rational discourse. Open Minds Foundation’s website is <a href="https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>. The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2017/08/26/sensibly-speaking-podcast-105-scientology-fair-gaming-recovery-ft-jon-atack/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #105: Scientology Fair Gaming and Recovery ft. Jon Atack</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Scientology Fair Gaming and Recovery ft. Jon Atack

This week I take on the idea of there being an “Anti-Scientology Cult” and break down the reasons why I think it’s total balderdash. In the course of doing this, I got into quite a bit of detail about what it’s like for a former cult member in coming out in to the world and why the adjustment can be difficult. Enjoy!Deconstructing Scientology playlistThe post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #194: The Anti-Scientology Cult and Ex-Cult Members appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I take on the idea of there being an “Anti-Scientology Cult” and break down the reasons why I think it’s total balderdash. In the course of doing this, I got into quite a bit of detail about what it’s like for a former cult member in coming out in to the world and why the adjustment can be difficult. Enjoy!<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGrPM1Pg2h70GahFF-iUjKGxNi-oavas-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Deconstructing Scientology playlist</a>The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2019/05/25/sensibly-speaking-podcast-194-the-anti-scientology-cult-and-ex-cult-members/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #194: The Anti-Scientology Cult and Ex-Cult Members</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

The Anti-Scientology Cult and Ex-Cult Members

David Miscavige

This week I am once again joined by Dr. Jeff Wasel and John P Capitalist (a pseudonym) to discuss L. Ron Hubbard’s Data Series and how it was used by David Miscavige to turn the course of Scientology and alter Hubbard’s techniques and ideas forever. We go over Miscavige’s Golden Age of Tech, the repercussions of that and where we think Scientology is heading now as a result. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #143: How David Miscavige is Destroying Scientology appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I am once again joined by Dr. Jeff Wasel and John P Capitalist (a pseudonym) to discuss L. Ron Hubbard’s Data Series and how it was used by David Miscavige to turn the course of Scientology and alter Hubbard’s techniques and ideas forever. We go over Miscavige’s Golden Age of Tech, the repercussions of that and where we think Scientology is heading now as a result. The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/06/02/sensibly-speaking-podcast-143-how-david-miscavige-is-destroying-scientology/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #143: How David Miscavige is Destroying Scientology</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

How David Miscavige is Destroying Scientology

Karen Pressley

This week, Karen Pressley is on board to talk about her past Scientology and Sea Org career including being married to musician Peter Schless, working at Scientology’s secret international headquarters under David Miscavige and overseeing the progress of celebrities. Music by Pale Blue. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #108: Escaping Scientology ft. Karen Pressley appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week, Karen Pressley is on board to talk about her past Scientology and Sea Org career including being married to musician Peter Schless, working at Scientology’s secret international headquarters under David Miscavige and overseeing the progress of celebrities. Music by Pale Blue. The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2017/09/16/sensibly-speaking-podcast-108-escaping-scientology-ft-karen-pressley/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #108: Escaping Scientology ft. Karen Pressley</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Escaping Scientology ft. Karen Pressley

Former Sea Org member Karen Pressley and I discuss the 80+ books that have been written since the 1950s about Scientology. Karen has put together a PDF presentation of all of these (link below) and we talk about the history of Scientology, how these books and other events have shaped that history and which ones we think are the most important to check out. Karen’s presentation: https://goo.gl/6pVYHy The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #124: Exposing Scientology ft. Karen Pressley appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

Former Sea Org member Karen Pressley and I discuss the 80+ books that have been written since the 1950s about Scientology. Karen has put together a PDF presentation of all of these (link below) and we talk about the history of Scientology, how these books and other events have shaped that history and which ones we think are the most important to check out. Karen’s presentation: <a href="https://goo.gl/6pVYHy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/6pVYHy</a> The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/01/06/sensibly-speaking-podcast-124-exposing-scientology-ft-karen-pressley/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #124: Exposing Scientology ft. Karen Pressley</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Exposing Scientology ft. Karen Pressley

This week, former Mormon Jonathan Streeter and former Jehovah’s Witness Lloyd Evans and I reunite as the Three Apostates to discuss the cult control techniques that are used to retain members. We compare and contrast the sayings, methods and social controls across our former groups such as how members are made to feel they’ll fail if they leave the cult, etc. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #161: The Three Apostates take on Cult Control Techniques appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week, former Mormon Jonathan Streeter and former Jehovah’s Witness Lloyd Evans and I reunite as the Three Apostates to discuss the cult control techniques that are used to retain members. We compare and contrast the sayings, methods and social controls across our former groups such as how members are made to feel they’ll fail if they leave the cult, etc. The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2018/10/06/sensibly-speaking-podcast-161-the-three-apostates-take-on-cult-control-techniques/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #161: The Three Apostates take on Cult Control Techniques</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

The Three Apostates take on Cult Control Methods

Sarah Landry

This week I have a special two-part extended length podcast. Sarah Landy, a former member and spokesperson for the Nithyananda Dhyanapeetam, a religious organisation founded by Nithyananda and which she was involved with for 9 years. Her story is at once a cautionary tale about how people can be lured into cults and a testimonial of how fanatical people can become as a result. The Curated Care Crates linkThe post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #216 Part 1: Sarah Landry and the Cult of Nithyananda appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week I have a special two-part extended length podcast. Sarah Landy, a former member and spokesperson for the Nithyananda Dhyanapeetam, a religious organisation founded by Nithyananda and which she was involved with for 9 years. Her story is at once a cautionary tale about how people can be lured into cults and a testimonial of how fanatical people can become as a result. <a href="http://igg.me/at/CuratedCareCrates" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Curated Care Crates link</a>The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2019/10/26/sensibly-speaking-podcast-216-part-1-sarah-landry-and-the-cult-of-nithyananda/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #216 Part 1: Sarah Landry and the Cult of Nithyananda</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Part 1: Sarah Landry and the Cult of Nithyananada

Jessica Schab

This week, I interview former spiritual adviser and cult leader Jessica Schab, who one day realized that what she was involved in was not rational and had elements that were actually destructive. We talk about what she did once she realized this and the consequences of those actions. While normally on this channel we have discussed cult followers, in this episode we go to the other side to see what life is like as a cult leader. IMPORTANT NOTE: This podcast does not endorse Jessica’s End of Fear (EOF) Project or any part of the life coaching that she and Diego Fontanive are doing. It is my opinion that anyone partaking in non-professional life coaching services is taking a risk because this is pseudo-psychological work that does not require any professional training or licensing, nor does it have any legal or professional oversight. Nothing said in this podcast should be taken as a recommendation or endorsement of EOF. Jessica can be reached via http://jessicaschab.com. Jessica on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jessicamystic The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #123: Being a Cult Leader ft. Jessica Schab appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week, I interview former spiritual adviser and cult leader Jessica Schab, who one day realized that what she was involved in was not rational and had elements that were actually destructive. We talk about what she did once she realized this and the consequences of those actions. While normally on this channel we have discussed cult followers, in this episode we go to the other side to see what life is like as a cult leader. IMPORTANT NOTE: This podcast does not endorse Jessica’s End of Fear (EOF) Project or any part of the life coaching that she and Diego Fontanive are doing. It is my opinion that anyone partaking in non-professional life coaching services is taking a risk because this is pseudo-psychological work that does not require any professional training or licensing, nor does it have any legal or professional oversight. Nothing said in this podcast should be taken as a recommendation or endorsement of EOF. Jessica can be reached via <a href="http://jessicaschab.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://jessicaschab.com</a>. Jessica on Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/jessicamystic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/jessicamystic</a> The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2017/12/30/sensibly-speaking-podcast-123-cult-leader-ft-jessica-schab/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #123: Being a Cult Leader ft. Jessica Schab</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Being a Cult Leader ft. Jessica Schab

Andrew Forlines

This week, former IBLP/ATI member Andrew Forlines and I discuss the Bill Gothard Christian cult, homeschooling, politics and a lot more. Enjoy our free-ranging and hopefully somewhat interesting conversation! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #114: Gothard’s Cult, Homeschooling and More appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

This week, former IBLP/ATI member Andrew Forlines and I discuss the Bill Gothard Christian cult, homeschooling, politics and a lot more. Enjoy our free-ranging and hopefully somewhat interesting conversation! The post <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2017/10/28/sensibly-speaking-podcast-114-gothards-cult-homeschooling/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sensibly Speaking Podcast #114: Gothard’s Cult, Homeschooling and More</a> appeared first on <a href="https://sensiblyspeaking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Sensibly Speaking Podcast</a>.

Gothard's Cult, Homeschooling and More ft. Andrew Forlines

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