Linda Godfrey

Tweet “A certain number of people, good honest working folk, had seen something—something unusual. Something scary. Something hairy that relished pavement patty dinners!”  That was the caption underneath the cartoon of an upright wolf eating roadkill that ran in the December 29th, 1991 article ofThe Week, the local paper of the small Wisconsin city of Elkhorn. It was an article that they thought would be fun but forgotten soon after. Stories were spreading among the kids of the town that people seeing a huge dog or wolf on two legs along a rural road late at night. The original reporter, Linda Godfrey, had to fight to get the article published.  We’ve talked with Linda on the podcast many times, but on this special anniversary, Mike and his sister Allison bring Linda back to talk about how things have changed in the three decades since Linda broke the story.  Linda’s original cartoon as it ran in The Week It all started with a folder labeled “Werewolf”Once Linda Godfrey went to the Walworth County Animal Control officer, he already had a stack of reported sightings and unusual occurrences and the manila folder was labeled “Werewolf”. The sightings go back to 1936Once Linda ran the story, people started contacting her about their own sightings. One man detailed his own father’s encounter  not far from Bray Road with a strange creature decades before. A story he had only shared with family before. The monster that his father had seen had all the hallmarks of the Beast that people were seeing along Bray Road in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It’s Not Just Upright Wolves or CaninesLinda has also discovered hundreds of sightings of big cats in Wisconsin, sightings that the Department of Natural Resources says are impossible. Those sightings have political implications so sometimes cryptozoology can bleed over into the world of state politics, land zoning, and animal control.  A never-before reported sightingWhile driving home from Lake Geneva (where we have one of our most popular ghost tours!) a couple saw a puzzling creature in a cornfield in the middle of the day. Only after hearing about the Beast of Bray Road for the first time on TV a year later, did they realize that they had seen the same thing! Listen to a special podcast episode featuring an interview with the original investigator and hear a firsthand never-before revealed encounter with the Beast of Bray Road… Important Links: Ep. 51 – American Monsters: An Interview With Linda Godfrey   Ep. 197- I Know What I Saw: Monsters, Myths, And More With Linda S. Godfrey   Return To Wildcat Mountain film on Amazon   The post 296 – The Beast of Bray Road Returns: The 30th Anniversary with Linda Godfrey appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2021%2F12%2F25%2F296-the-beast-of-bray-road-returns-the-30th-anniversary-with-linda-godfrey%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> “A certain number of people, good honest working folk, had seen something—something unusual. Something scary. Something hairy that relished pavement patty dinners!”  That was the caption underneath the cartoon of an upright wolf eating roadkill that ran in the December 29th, 1991 article ofThe Week, the local paper of the small Wisconsin city of Elkhorn. It was an article that they thought would be fun but forgotten soon after. Stories were spreading among the kids of the town that people seeing a huge dog or wolf on two legs along a rural road late at night. The original reporter, Linda Godfrey, had to fight to get the article published. We’ve talked with Linda on the podcast many times, but on this special anniversary, Mike and his sister Allison bring Linda back to talk about how things have changed in the three decades since Linda broke the story. <a href="https://9p2edc.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/brayroad-art-001-scaled.jpeg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>Linda’s original cartoon as it ran in The Week It all started with a folder labeled “Werewolf” Once Linda Godfrey went to the Walworth County Animal Control officer, he already had a stack of reported sightings and unusual occurrences and the manila folder was labeled “Werewolf”. The sightings go back to 1936 Once Linda ran the story, people started contacting her about their own sightings. One man detailed his own father’s encounter  not far from Bray Road with a strange creature decades before. A story he had only shared with family before. The monster that his father had seen had all the hallmarks of the Beast that people were seeing along Bray Road in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It’s Not Just Upright Wolves or Canines Linda has also discovered hundreds of sightings of big cats in Wisconsin, sightings that the Department of Natural Resources says are impossible. Those sightings have political implications so sometimes cryptozoology can bleed over into the world of state politics, land zoning, and animal control. A never-before reported sighting While driving home from Lake Geneva (where we have one of our most popular ghost tours!) a couple saw a puzzling creature in a cornfield in the middle of the day. Only after hearing about the Beast of Bray Road for the first time on TV a year later, did they realize that they had seen the same thing! Listen to a special podcast episode featuring an interview with the original investigator and hear a firsthand never-before revealed encounter with the Beast of Bray Road… <h2>Important Links:</h2> <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2015/08/06/51-american-monsters-an-interview-with-linda-godfrey-2/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Ep. 51 – American Monsters: An Interview With Linda Godfrey</a> <center> </center> <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/07/30/257-i-know-what-i-saw-monsters-myths-and-more-with-linda-s-godfrey/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Ep. 197- I Know What I Saw: Monsters, Myths, And More With Linda S. Godfrey</a> <center> </center> Re<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DLRK8Y9/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=sunspot-20&amp;linkCode=w00&amp;linkId=d8ebc7402556b4add4415c71c524e1b0&amp;creativeASIN=B08DLRK8Y9" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">turn To Wildcat Mountain film on Amazon</a> <center> </center> The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2021/12/25/296-the-beast-of-bray-road-returns-the-30th-anniversary-with-linda-godfrey/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">296 – The Beast of Bray Road Returns: The 30th Anniversary with Linda Godfrey</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

296 – The Beast of Bray Road Returns: The 30th Anniversary with Linda Godfrey

Tweet Hello, dear listener! It’s been a bit since we published a “traditional episode” of this audio podcast, and we want you to know that we’re still here and we’re still at it!This episode is a quick “hello” and a little retrospective of what has gone on in our world since the last episode was published. The post 295 – WE’RE BAAAAAAACK! A recap of the past 19 months away from our regularly scheduled ‘cast appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

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295 – WE’RE BAAAAAAACK! A recap of the past 19 months away from our regularly scheduled ‘cast

Tweet Horror stories, clickbait, panic porn, your amygdala is constantly getting stimulated nowadays because the media understands that if they activate your fight or flight response, you’ll pay attention. The old saying goes “If it bleeds, it leads” and that applies now more than ever. We’re still in the middle of a pandemic that has kept most of the world inside and glued to TV and social media for two months. We’re constantly  surrounded by news stories of how many people are predicted to die, how many deaths are already happening, and how quickly the disease is spreading, and how dangerous it is.  Millions around the world have been impacted by the disease, losing loved ones or getting sick themselves, and millions have also been affected by the reaction to it. The economic shutdown has made millions of people dependent on unemployment insurance for the first time to pay their bills and a system unprepared for such a gigantic influx of new applicants has suffocated under the weight. Hundreds of thousands of small businesses whose doors were shuttered by the shutdown orders across America that had to apply for emergency loans to the Small Business Administration didn’t even get their applications looked at before the money ran out. The school and daycare centers are closed and parents are stuck between the rock and a hard place of trying to keep money coming in and pay bills while providing their own child care, in essence, trying to juggle working full time from home (or if you work in a hospital or food industry, still having to go in) with parenting full time.  So not only are we worried about getting sick or people we love getting sick, we’re worried that we won’t have enough money to pay the bills and feed the children that we’re now assuming the teaching . Add to that, we’re in the middle of an election year, so the political teams have no co-opted the elements for the crisis and the lines in the sand have been drawn, depending on where your political beliefs fall. People are desperate. People are scared. A lot of us are not okay. So, what are some ways that we can get back to “okay” when it feels like the world is crashing down on us. Our “fight ot flight” center, the amygdala is constantly being activated lately. So what are some ways that people have stayed cool in a crisis? From just breathing to praying and meditating? That’s what we cover in this episode. Some of the different methods we discuss in this episode include: The scientific process behind how the brain handles anxietyLearning breathing techniques from the Dutch Iceman, Wim Hoff, who can control his body temperature so much that he can melt ice  around himHow meditation can calm your mind when you feel a panic coming onThe history behind the incorrectly called “Chinese proverb”, “May you live in interesting times.”How using a mantra (repeated phrase) can help when you can’t calm downThe sad and unbelievable story of St. Dymphna, the patron saint of anxiety and mental healthMiracles that have been attributed to the calming prayer cycle known as the Rosary, including one at Hiroshima during the atomic blast.  We originally recorded this episode in a live YouTube broadcast during the fifth week of lockdown and you can watch that original conversation in its unedited entirety right here. The song this week is a meditation track. It’s meant to relax you in just five minutes.  It’s got a beat programmed to slow down your  heart rate, it’s in G major, (known as the most relaxing key!), it’s got a Tibetan singing bowl for meditative properties, and there’s even some sounds of rain so that you can experience a little bit of nature. Hopefully, it’ll give you five minutes of peace.   The post 293 – Staying Cool In A Crisis: From Meditation to The Rosary appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F05%2F21%2F293-staying-cool-in-a-crisis-from-meditation-to-the-rosary%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Horror stories, clickbait, panic porn, your amygdala is constantly getting stimulated nowadays because the media understands that if they activate your fight or flight response, you’ll pay attention. The old saying goes “If it bleeds, it leads” and that applies now more than ever. We’re still in the middle of a pandemic that has kept most of the world inside and glued to TV and social media for two months. We’re constantly surrounded by news stories of how many people are predicted to die, how many deaths are already happening, and how quickly the disease is spreading, and how dangerous it is. Millions around the world have been impacted by the disease, losing loved ones or getting sick themselves, and millions have also been affected by the reaction to it. The economic shutdown has made millions of people dependent on unemployment insurance for the first time to pay their bills and a system unprepared for such a gigantic influx of new applicants has suffocated under the weight. Hundreds of thousands of small businesses whose doors were shuttered by the shutdown orders across America that had to apply for emergency loans to the Small Business Administration didn’t even get their applications looked at before the money ran out. The school and daycare centers are closed and parents are stuck between the rock and a hard place of trying to keep money coming in and pay bills while providing their own child care, in essence, trying to juggle working full time from home (or if you work in a hospital or food industry, still having to go in) with parenting full time. So not only are we worried about getting sick or people we love getting sick, we’re worried that we won’t have enough money to pay the bills and feed the children that we’re now assuming the teaching . Add to that, we’re in the middle of an election year, so the political teams have no co-opted the elements for the crisis and the lines in the sand have been drawn, depending on where your political beliefs fall. People are desperate. People are scared. A lot of us are not okay. So, what are some ways that we can get back to “okay” when it feels like the world is crashing down on us. Our “fight ot flight” center, the amygdala is constantly being activated lately. So what are some ways that people have stayed cool in a crisis? From just breathing to praying and meditating? That’s what we cover in this episode. Some of the different methods we discuss in this episode include: <ul><li>The scientific process <a href="https://www.brainfacts.org/diseases-and-disorders/mental-health/2018/what-part-of-the-brain-deals-with-anxiety-what-can-brains-affected-by-anxiety-tell-us-062918" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">behind how the brain handles anxiety</a></li><li>Learning breathing techniques from the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybOi4hjZFQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dutch Iceman, Wim Hoff</a>, who can control his body temperature so much that he can melt ice around him</li><li>How <a href="https://news.wisc.edu/meditation-can-help-during-crisis-and-everyday-lives-uw-madison-expert-says/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">meditation can calm your mind when you feel a panic coming on</a></li><li>The history behind the incorrectly called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“Chinese proverb”, “May you live in interesting times.”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/201508/how-mantras-calm-your-mind" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How using a mantra (repeated phrase)</a> can help when you can’t calm down</li><li>The sad and unbelievable story of <a href="https://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=222" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">St. Dymphna, the patron saint of anxiety and mental health</a></li><li>Miracles that have been attributed to the calming prayer cycle known as <a href="https://www.bluearmy.com/the-incredible-story-of-the-miracle-at-hiroshima/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the Rosary, including one at Hiroshima during the atomic blast. </a></li></ul> We originally recorded this episode in a live YouTube broadcast during the fifth week of lockdown and you can watch that original conversation in its unedited entirety right here. The song this week is a meditation track. It’s meant to relax you in just five minutes.  It’s got a beat programmed to slow down your heart rate, it’s in G major, (known as the most relaxing key!), it’s got a Tibetan singing bowl for meditative properties, and there’s even some sounds of rain so that you can experience a little bit of nature. Hopefully, it’ll give you five minutes of peace. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/05/21/293-staying-cool-in-a-crisis-from-meditation-to-the-rosary/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">293 – Staying Cool In A Crisis: From Meditation to The Rosary</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

293 – Staying Cool In A Crisis: From Meditation to The Rosary

Chad Lewis

Wendigo Lore

Tweet When Hollywood comes looking for a nasty monster from First Nations folklore, there’s one supernatural creature that seems to dominate the landscape. The legend of the Wendigo has inspired cinematic villains from Pet Sematary to Supernatural, Ravenous to Bone Tomahawk. From the legends of the Algonquin-speaking Great Lakes tribes in the Upper Midwest and Canada, the Wendigo is the evil spirit that transforms starving humans into a voracious cannibalistic monster after they finally succumb to their basest instincts and taste human flesh.  The cover of Chad Lewis’ new book with Kevin Lee Nelson – Wendigo Lore: Monsters, Myths, and Madness These tribes lived in an area with harsh cold winters where food becomes scarce. Right around February when you haven’t had anything decent to eat for months and your body is starving for any kind of protein outside of your shoe leather, well, your neighbor might start looking pretty good. The human instinct to survive at all costs is hard to resist. The Wendigo is our warning to resist that urge, that this evil irreparably taints the soul once you feast upon another human.  Cannibalism is the ultimate human taboo. The whole reason that humans thrived on this planet is because we work together. We don’t have the natural advantages that other creatures do like fur on a bear to survive the winter cold or teeth like a wolf to dig into our prey. Our socialization is what enabled us to conquer the planet in all of its areas and climates. Winter is the cruelest climate of all because not only is terribly cold, there’s no food. Eating your fellow man is the ultimate betrayal of what makes us human, our tribal capacity to take on the world together.      Who wants some fava beans?    Chad Lewis and Kevin Lee Nelson have been working on this compendium of Wendigo lore and mythology for almost two decades. And in this episode, Chad tells us of the journey he took in writing the book. Some of the things we also talk about in this conversation: Why you’re never even supposed to say the name of the Wendigo The most famous case of the Wendigo in the modern era, Swift Runner, who ate his family in 1878 Alberta The far edges of the world that Chad Lewis and his co- author went to walk on the same ground as the people they talk about in the bookThe radio station in Eau Claire, Wisconsin we used to perform at all the time and Chad had a show had an owner that thought he was a skin walker! The Wendigo are more than just the winter spirits of desperate hunger, it is a monster that feeds on greed. The human capacity for gluttony and the desire that you will never have enough. The Wendigo, like George Romero’s zombies, is never satisfied, its craving is never satiated. It’s a eerily thin, gaunt beast who grows larger with every human it devours, but it’s still not enough. Once you break the taboo and taste the flesh, you descend into madness and you will never satisfy “The Hunger of The Damned”. I can hear its callin the scream of the coldI can feel it crawlan infection in my soula little voice deep insideyou’d rather eat than diefind a way to justifyas the hunger takes hold. Famine like a disease.What do you do when you’re hungryMore than a beastand the monster is me Stung by the winter’s biteCan I make it one more nighthow long can I fightuntil I give in to this appetite You’ll never be the sameonce you’ve tasted fleshdon’t say it’s namethe taste that drives you insaneThe Hunger of the Damneddon’t say it’s name you’ll never be satisfiedwhen the madness burns insideyou’ll never be completeWhen all you see is meat. you’ll never be satisfiedwhen the madness burns insideyou’ll never be completeWhen all you see is meat. The post 294 – The Hunger of the Damned: Chad Lewis and Wendigo Lore appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F05%2F18%2F294-the-hunger-of-the-damned-chad-lewis-and-wendigo-lore%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> When Hollywood comes looking for a nasty monster from First Nations folklore, there’s one supernatural creature that seems to dominate the landscape. The legend of the Wendigo has inspired cinematic villains from Pet Sematary to Supernatural, Ravenous to Bone Tomahawk. From the legends of the Algonquin-speaking Great Lakes tribes in the Upper Midwest and Canada, the Wendigo is the evil spirit that transforms starving humans into a voracious cannibalistic monster after they finally succumb to their basest instincts and taste human flesh. <a href="https://amzn.to/3bGFkWA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>The cover of Chad Lewis’ new book with Kevin Lee Nelson –<a href="https://amzn.to/3bGFkWA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Wendigo Lore</a>: <a href="https://amzn.to/3bGFkWA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monsters, Myths, and Madness</a> These tribes lived in an area with harsh cold winters where food becomes scarce. Right around February when you haven’t had anything decent to eat for months and your body is starving for any kind of protein outside of your shoe leather, well, your neighbor might start looking pretty good. The human instinct to survive at all costs is hard to resist. The Wendigo is our warning to resist that urge, that this evil irreparably taints the soul once you feast upon another human. Cannibalism is the ultimate human taboo. The whole reason that humans thrived on this planet is because we work together. We don’t have the natural advantages that other creatures do like fur on a bear to survive the winter cold or teeth like a wolf to dig into our prey. Our socialization is what enabled us to conquer the planet in all of its areas and climates. Winter is the cruelest climate of all because not only is terribly cold, there’s no food. Eating your fellow man is the ultimate betrayal of what makes us human, our tribal capacity to take on the world together. Who wants some fava beans? Chad Lewis and Kevin Lee Nelson have been working on this compendium of Wendigo lore and mythology for almost two decades. And in this episode, Chad tells us of the journey he took in writing the book. Some of the things we also talk about in this conversation: <ul><li>Why you’re never even supposed to say the name of the Wendigo </li><li>The most famous case of the Wendigo in the modern era, Swift Runner, who ate his family in 1878 Alberta</li><li> The far edges of the world that Chad Lewis and his co- author went to walk on the same ground as the people they talk about in the book</li><li>The radio station in Eau Claire, Wisconsin we used to perform at all the time and Chad had a show had an owner that thought he was a skin walker!</li></ul> The Wendigo are more than just the winter spirits of desperate hunger, it is a monster that feeds on greed. The human capacity for gluttony and the desire that you will never have enough. The Wendigo, like George Romero’s zombies, is never satisfied, its craving is never satiated. It’s a eerily thin, gaunt beast who grows larger with every human it devours, but it’s still not enough. Once you break the taboo and taste the flesh, you descend into madness and you will never satisfy “The Hunger of The Damned”. I can hear its call in the scream of the cold I can feel it crawl an infection in my soul a little voice deep inside you’d rather eat than die find a way to justify as the hunger takes hold. Famine like a disease. What do you do when you’re hungry More than a beast and the monster is me Stung by the winter’s bite Can I make it one more night how long can I fight until I give in to this appetite You’ll never be the same once you’ve tasted flesh don’t say it’s name the taste that drives you insane The Hunger of the Damned don’t say it’s name you’ll never be satisfied when the madness burns inside you’ll never be complete When all you see is meat. you’ll never be satisfied when the madness burns inside you’ll never be complete When all you see is meat. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/05/18/294-the-hunger-of-the-damned-chad-lewis-and-wendigo-lore/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">294 – The Hunger of the Damned: Chad Lewis and Wendigo Lore</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

294 – The Hunger of the Damned: Chad Lewis and Wendigo Lore

Tweet Millions of people have UFO stories. There is a one-hundred percent chance that you know at least one person that has a story! So, we went to our listeners and in our own archives for this episode’s tales of UFO experiences.  Once again, join me, Wendy Lynn, Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com, and my sister Allison Jornlin from MilwaukeeGhosts.com to talk about our own stories as well as great ones from our listeners. You can watch the unedited livestream of our conversation here if you’d like to see our pretty faces while we talk. My sister, Allison, has her own UFO story and it happened to be on the day that my daughter was born, September of 2016. Here’s the exact text of the email she sent me and it came out about 15 minutes after the birth, she didn’t know about it yet and I didn’t have much time to think about it at the time! I saw some UFOs today at about 7:25 a.m. and I couldn’t wait to tell you. Maybe it’s a sign. Is it baby time? Below is what I wrote for the kids today during our Quick Write: Something amazing happened to me this morning. No, my brother’s baby didn’t come yet, unfortunately. It was something else.I was driving to school on Hwy 43 Southbound when I saw something strange in the sky. Actually it was two-somethings. I wondered were they planes, but I couldn’t stop and look because I was on the expressway. That means emergency stopping only!The objects were pretty high up. That’s why I thought they were planes. But I actually saw two planes go by this morning also. These other objects didn’t seem to be moving and they didn’t have the blinking lights that planes have to have by law. They were like two groups of three bright, white lights hovering there. One was much lower than the other and off to the right. What were they? I wish I could have stopped and taken some video. By the time I got off the expressway, the lights were in back of me and seemed to be getting smaller.I think maybe they were flares, but I’m not sure. They seemed to fade out instead of coming down like they were on parachutes. They also didn’t really seem to move at all, just hanging motionless in the sky for at least 5 minutes. What do you think they were? I’ve got my own UFO story too, not exciting like an abduction or anything, but interesting enough to me that I wrote it down the same day.  I was on a vacation in January of 2008 visiting a place called Cabo Rojo which is an incredible white sand beach on the southwestern shore of the island, opening up to the Carribbean sea with a very famous lighthouse.  There was an object far away in the sky that almost looked like a blimp, but it was tremendously high in the sky, so high and so far away that we couldn’t be quite sure of what it was. It definitely didn’t look like a cloud, even though it was completely white and high enough to be a cloud. But the rest of the clouds had some kind of softness and transparency to them and this cloud didn’t. It was definitely unusual and I thought it might be a UFO, what I really thought it might have been was some kind of alien or government ship that was up there and it was meant to be disguised as a cloud, but it was just different enough so if you looked you couldn’t tell. I dunno, I wanted to take a picture of it but I was so enamored with the natural beauty of the place that I forgot about the unnatural beauty of what we were seeing. It probably was a cloud or a blimp that was very high, but it looked just different enough from the other clouds to be interesting. My journal, January 3rd, 2008 Funny enough, as we were getting back on the road and driving towards our next location, just what road do we end up driving on? Yeah, that’s some kind of synchronicity. I see something weird in the sky I can’t explain on the same day we randomly decide to drive Puerto Rico’s Extraterrestrial Highway. This episode is chock full of weird lights in the sky stories, including: Once again, our Patreon Dr. Ned tells us an interesting UFO encounter he had in the 1960sWe’ve got high strangeness on a military base from our Patreon C.E. Martin’s book , Stranger Than Fiction.A Chicago UFO sighting from Illinois MUFON state director, Sam MarantoA Bermuda Triangle story from near Cabo Rojo where we were in Puerto Ricoand lots more… Well, something I said in this episode is that I’m gonna punch the next person that says the phrase “Space Brothers” to me, well guess what, it was me. The most ridiculous UFO hunt I’ve ever been on was at the Michigan Paracon in 2017 where we all stood outside in the parking lot while Andrea Perron sang “Sentimental Journey” and it was as ridiculous as it sounds. The only reason I took it even a little seriously at first is because Dave Schrader from Darkness Radio and The Holzer Files and Amy Bruni from Kindred Spirits both said that Andrea could really make some crazy stuff happen. Well, I don’t know what they were smoking, but here’s our immediate reaction afterwards… Okay, so obviously it was hard to take that seriously, so for this episode’s song, we decided to ask our alien friends for a favor. Here’s our Sunspot paranormal track of the week, “Space Brothers”. You must be talking at light speedfrom that black hole you got on your facecuz when you open your mouth, time slows, andand I just want to escape. Oh, you piss me off on a cosmic scale,So I don’t want ET to come in peace,the first thing he should do is abduct you, and get you off this planet for keeps. All these lights in the skyjust watching us like a zooand if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me,I wish they would anal probe you I dunno why spacemen love butts.Who can read their alien brains?But if they’re looking for the biggest asshole in the worldwell, I can give them a name. All these lights in the skyjust watching us like a zooand if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me,I wish they would anal probe you All these lights in the skyjust watching us like a zooand if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me,I wish they would anal probe you  The post 292 – Lights In The Sky: Personal and Listener UFO Experiences appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F04%2F22%2F292-lights-in-the-sky-personal-and-listener-ufo-experiences%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Millions of people have UFO stories. There is a one-hundred percent chance that you know at least one person that has a story! So, we went to our listeners and in our own archives for this episode’s tales of UFO experiences. Once again, join me, Wendy Lynn, <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a>, and my sister <a href="http://www.milwaukeeghosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison Jornlin from MilwaukeeGhosts.com </a>to talk about our own stories as well as great ones from our listeners. You can watch the unedited livestream of our conversation here if you’d like to see our pretty faces while we talk. My sister, Allison, has her own UFO story and it happened to be on the day that my daughter was born, September of 2016. Here’s the exact text of the email she sent me and it came out about 15 minutes after the birth, she didn’t know about it yet and I didn’t have much time to think about it at the time! <blockquote>I saw some UFOs today at about 7:25 a.m. and I couldn’t wait to tell you. Maybe it’s a sign. Is it baby time? Below is what I wrote for the kids today during our Quick Write: Something amazing happened to me this morning. No, my brother’s baby didn’t come yet, unfortunately. It was something else. I was driving to school on Hwy 43 Southbound when I saw something strange in the sky. Actually it was two-somethings. I wondered were they planes, but I couldn’t stop and look because I was on the expressway. That means emergency stopping only! The objects were pretty high up. That’s why I thought they were planes. But I actually saw two planes go by this morning also. These other objects didn’t seem to be moving and they didn’t have the blinking lights that planes have to have by law. They were like two groups of three bright, white lights hovering there. One was much lower than the other and off to the right. What were they? I wish I could have stopped and taken some video. By the time I got off the expressway, the lights were in back of me and seemed to be getting smaller. I think maybe they were flares, but I’m not sure. They seemed to fade out instead of coming down like they were on parachutes. They also didn’t really seem to move at all, just hanging motionless in the sky for at least 5 minutes. What do you think they were?</blockquote> I’ve got my own UFO story too, not exciting like an abduction or anything, but interesting enough to me that I wrote it down the same day. I was on a vacation in January of 2008 visiting a place called Cabo Rojo which is an incredible white sand beach on the southwestern shore of the island, opening up to the Carribbean sea with a very famous lighthouse. <blockquote>There was an object far away in the sky that almost looked like a blimp, but it was tremendously high in the sky, so high and so far away that we couldn’t be quite sure of what it was. It definitely didn’t look like a cloud, even though it was completely white and high enough to be a cloud. But the rest of the clouds had some kind of softness and transparency to them and this cloud didn’t. It was definitely unusual and I thought it might be a UFO, what I really thought it might have been was some kind of alien or government ship that was up there and it was meant to be disguised as a cloud, but it was just different enough so if you looked you couldn’t tell. I dunno, I wanted to take a picture of it but I was so enamored with the natural beauty of the place that I forgot about the unnatural beauty of what we were seeing. It probably was a cloud or a blimp that was very high, but it looked just different enough from the other clouds to be interesting. My journal, January 3rd, 2008</blockquote> Funny enough, as we were getting back on the road and driving towards our next location, just what road do we end up driving on? Yeah, that’s some kind of synchronicity. I see something weird in the sky I can’t explain on the same day we randomly decide to drive Puerto Rico’s Extraterrestrial Highway. This episode is chock full of weird lights in the sky stories, including: <ul><li>Once again, our Patreon Dr. Ned tells us an interesting UFO encounter he had in the 1960s</li><li>We’ve got high strangeness on a military base from our Patreon C.E. Martin’s book <a href="https://amzn.to/3bWtVCC" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">, Stranger Than Fiction</a>.</li><li>A Chicago UFO sighting from <a href="http://www.mymufon.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Illinois MUFON state director, Sam Maranto</a></li><li>A Bermuda Triangle story from near Cabo Rojo where we were in Puerto Rico</li><li>and lots more…</li></ul> Well, something I said in this episode is that I’m gonna punch the next person that says the phrase “Space Brothers” to me, well guess what, it was me. The most ridiculous UFO hunt I’ve ever been on was at the Michigan Paracon in 2017 where we all stood outside in the parking lot while Andrea Perron sang “Sentimental Journey” and it was as ridiculous as it sounds. The only reason I took it even a little seriously at first is because Dave Schrader from Darkness Radio and The Holzer Files and Amy Bruni from Kindred Spirits both said that Andrea could really make some crazy stuff happen. Well, I don’t know what they were smoking, but here’s our immediate reaction afterwards… Okay, so obviously it was hard to take that seriously, so for this episode’s song, we decided to ask our alien friends for a favor. Here’s our Sunspot paranormal track of the week, “Space Brothers”. You must be talking at light speed from that black hole you got on your face cuz when you open your mouth, time slows, and and I just want to escape. Oh, you piss me off on a cosmic scale, So I don’t want ET to come in peace, the first thing he should do is abduct you, and get you off this planet for keeps. All these lights in the sky just watching us like a zoo and if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me, I wish they would anal probe you I dunno why spacemen love butts. Who can read their alien brains? But if they’re looking for the biggest asshole in the world well, I can give them a name. All these lights in the sky just watching us like a zoo and if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me, I wish they would anal probe you All these lights in the sky just watching us like a zoo and if the Space Brothers wanna do something for me, I wish they would anal probe you The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/04/22/292-lights-in-the-sky-personal-and-listener-ufo-experiences/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">292 – Lights In The Sky: Personal and Listener UFO Experiences</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

292 – Lights In The Sky: Personal and Listener UFO Experiences

Tweet Everyone’s got a ghost story, from your grandma to your high school social studies teacher. In fact, some of the people that you least expect (and some skeptics as well), seem to have stories that they just can’t quite explain. One time, I remember talking to someone about ghost stories and he said, “Nothing’s really ever happened to me… well… except that time that heard my grandmother’s voice tell me to stop immediately when I was driving, and I narrowly avoided getting into a car crash that surely would have killed me.” Nope, nothing at all then. Kevin Hart Say What GIF from Kevinhart GIFs So, this week, we decided to talk about our personal ghost stories as well as reach out to See You On The Other Side listeners to get their tales of the unexplained, so we could share them for this special episode. Wendy and I are joined by my sister, Allison from MilwaukeeGhosts.com as well as Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com and we originally recorded it as a livestream on Facebook.      Here’s the video of our livestream    But there was a ghost in the machine that day, so we didn’t end up listening to several of the listener stories, because of technical issues. However, all of those stories have been saved for the audio podcast for your listening pleasure, including: The ghost story Allison and my mother told us when we were kids when our parents lived across the street from a cemeteryOur family’s strange story of our great uncle seeing an “Angel In The Mirror” right before he diedA comforting ghost seen by our Patreon, Dr. NedKatie’s story, who as a young girl, was out on the road doing merchandise with a country singer calls us to let us know about a hotel she stayed at where the ghost got a little too friendlyFormer Milwaukee ghost tour guide, Mike J., tells us of a childhood haunting in the “little pink house” that his family lived inAllison and her husband’s adventures at the Haunted Larium Manor Inn in the Upper Peninsula of MichiganGhost hunter Scott Markus’ adventures investigating in IllinoisQuick stories recounted by Amy, Jimmy, and Tina as well… We also read our Patreon C.E. Martin’s story, “The Closet of Terror” from his biographical paranormal novel, Stranger Than Fiction.   We’re doing more experimenting with recording the podcasts live during the lockdown of Coronavirus 2020, so thanks to everyone who’s been watching the livestreams.  For the song this week, we were inspired by Allison and my family story about our mother’s uncle who saw an angel in the mirror in the middle of the night, told his wife about it, went back to sleep, and never woke up. After hearing the tale since we were children, it seemed like it was about time that we dedicate a track to “The Angel In The Mirror”. Far beyond its bloom only petals on the floor a broken flower wilts it won’t be pretty anymore When you hear the knock there’s nothing left to beg for how I’ve fought and how I tried to keep the lock on this door  Blinded by the love as she holds onto me the angel in the mirror is the last thing I see  Wake up in the night breathless from a dream When I open the door, I will find her ready for me. with open arms and a crooked smile it’s just a small mercy My struggle has ended I close my eyes and finally sleep  Blinded by the love as she holds onto me the angel in the mirror is the last thing I see Blinded by the love as she holds onto me the angel in the mirror is the last thing I see The post 291 – Everyone’s Got A Ghost Story: Listener and Personal Experiences appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F04%2F16%2F291-everyones-got-a-ghost-story-listener-and-personal-experiences%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Everyone’s got a ghost story, from your grandma to your high school social studies teacher. In fact, some of the people that you least expect (and some skeptics as well), seem to have stories that they just can’t quite explain. One time, I remember talking to someone about ghost stories and he said, “Nothing’s really ever happened to me… well… except that time that heard my grandmother’s voice tell me to stop immediately when I was driving, and I narrowly avoided getting into a car crash that surely would have killed me.” Nope, nothing at all then. <a href="https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-say-what-stare-blink-really-gif-12005301" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kevin Hart Say What GIF</a> from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/kevinhart-gifs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kevinhart GIFs</a> So, this week, we decided to talk about our personal ghost stories as well as reach out to See You On The Other Side listeners to get their tales of the unexplained, so we could share them for this special episode. Wendy and I are joined by my sister, Allison from <a href="http://MilwaukeeGhosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MilwaukeeGhosts.com</a> as well as Scott Markus from <a href="http://WhatsYourGhostStory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> and we originally recorded it as a livestream on Facebook. Here’s the video of our livestream But there was a ghost in the machine that day, so we didn’t end up listening to several of the listener stories, because of technical issues. However, all of those stories have been saved for the audio podcast for your listening pleasure, including: <ul><li>The ghost story Allison and my mother told us when we were kids when our parents lived across the street from a cemetery</li><li>Our family’s strange story of our great uncle seeing an “Angel In The Mirror” right before he died</li><li>A comforting ghost seen by our Patreon, Dr. Ned</li><li>Katie’s story, who as a young girl, was out on the road doing merchandise with a country singer calls us to let us know about a hotel she stayed at where the ghost got a little too friendly</li><li>Former Milwaukee ghost tour guide, Mike J., tells us of a childhood haunting in the “little pink house” that his family lived in</li><li>Allison and her husband’s adventures at the <a href="https://www.laurium.info" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Haunted Larium Manor Inn in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2XyWRMW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ghost hunter Scott Markus’ adventures investigating in Illinois</a></li><li>Quick stories recounted by Amy, Jimmy, and Tina as well…</li></ul> We also read our Patreon <a href="https://amzn.to/3bWtVCC" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">C.E. Martin’s story, “The Closet of Terror” from his biographical paranormal novel, Stranger Than Fiction</a>. <center><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1731357907/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1731357907&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=sunspot-20&amp;linkId=faf4f5cc85f954864589e12ad6e36a02" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"></a></center> We’re doing more experimenting with recording the podcasts live during the lockdown of Coronavirus 2020, so thanks to everyone who’s been watching the livestreams. For the song this week, we were inspired by Allison and my family story about our mother’s uncle who saw an angel in the mirror in the middle of the night, told his wife about it, went back to sleep, and never woke up. After hearing the tale since we were children, it seemed like it was about time that we dedicate a track to “The Angel In The Mirror”. Far beyond its bloom  only petals on the floor  a broken flower wilts  it won’t be pretty anymore  When you hear the knock  there’s nothing left to beg for  how I’ve fought and how I tried  to keep the lock on this door  Blinded by the love  as she holds onto me  the angel in the mirror  is the last thing I see  Wake up in the night  breathless from a dream  When I open the door,  I will find her ready for me.  with open arms and a crooked smile  it’s just a small mercy  My struggle has ended  I close my eyes and finally sleep  Blinded by the love  as she holds onto me  the angel in the mirror  is the last thing I see  Blinded by the love  as she holds onto me  the angel in the mirror  is the last thing I see The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/04/16/291-everyones-got-a-ghost-story-listener-and-personal-experiences/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">291 – Everyone’s Got A Ghost Story: Listener and Personal Experiences</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

291 – Everyone’s Got A Ghost Story: Listener and Personal Experiences

Tweet In the wilds of western Alberta, Canada, Ken Walker lives, hunts, creates, and sings Roy Orbison tracks. He’s a world champion taxidermist who specializes in recreations of extinct animals. He’s brought back stunning versions of the Sabretooth Tiger and the Irish Elk and his work is featured in the Smithsonian Institution. He’s also a Squatcher and in 2015, he began a quest to create a perfect version of the Bigfoot from the infamous 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film, a not-so-little lady he calls “Patty”. Kansas City filmmaker Dan Wayne was taking on taxidermy as a hobby when he encountered Ken on  an internet forum.  He found Ken’s work fascinating and was amazed by the amount of access that this first-in-class taxidermist was giving him online to help developing his own skills. And when he discovered that Ken was working on a Sasquatch, he thought it would make a great documentary. And he was right. The ensuing documentary, which played at Slamdance Film Festival in 2020 is Big Fur, a compelling story about a man’s quest to recreate a creature that many have claim to have seen  but only really has been captured on shaky 1967 filmstock. Ken said that he wanted Bigfoot experiencers to see his mount (what taxidermists call their creations) and say “That’s exactly what I saw.”    Ken Walker with “Patty”    I have been a Bigfoot skeptic for awhile now because I just have too many unanswered questions, but talking to Ken and Dan about their documentary and Ken’s theories on the creature have once again opened me up to the possibility. Skeptics, believers, and people just interested in Bigfoot and taxidermy will find a lot to enjoy in this wide-ranging and entertaining discussion, including: Ken’s own Bigfoot experience that led him to believe in SasquatchHow he ended up with several bags of what he thinks is Sasquatch feces in his freezerHow you can tell a Hollywood-style fake Bigfoot costume from a real one (hint: it’s all in the forehead)The careful measuring of ratio and dimensions that Ken used to determine the height and size of his creationThe electromagnetic energy of BigfootHunting Bigfoot with special Faraday Cage camo suitsWhat kind of weird tree structures that Sasquatch are making out in the Alberta woods  To learn more about where you can see Big Fur, check out the movie website and here’s a quick interview done by our friend Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com when he met Dan and Ken at Slamdance. For the song this week, we couldn’t resist a couple of things. Number one, Ken isn’t just a taxidermist but also a Roy Orbison impersonator (and he even sings a bunch in the film!) Number two, the fact that they call the sasquatch in the Patterson-Gimlin film “Patty” and I didn’t even realize it was a female, blew my mind. So, of course we couldn’t resist making a rockabilly song about our favorite new girl, “Patty”. 7 foot tallShe’s the biggest girl aroundBut when she’s feeling shyShe’s nowhere to be found Oh Patty I know it’s all trueOh Patty, baby, I believe in you She don’t shave her legsShe don’t shave her pitsShe got the hairiest face you ever gonna kiss. Oh Patty, where you think you’re going to?Oh Patty, baby, I believe in you. She’s an outdoors gal,Hiding in the trees,She don’t wear no shoes soI hope you like big feet. Oh Patty. Won’t you give us a little view?Oh Patty, baby, I be She’s a whole lotta ladyGigantopithicusShe’s a California girlBut she don’t like showbiz Oh Patty, They all tell me I’m a foolOh Patty baby, I believe in you. 7 foot tallShe’s the biggest girl aroundBut when she’s feeling shyShe’s nowhere to be found Oh Patty I know it’s all true.Oh Patty baby please don’t leaveOh Patty baby don’t deceiveOh Patty baby I believe in you  The post 290 – Big Fur: Creating The Most Realistic Bigfoot Ever appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F04%2F09%2F290-big-fur-creating-the-most-realistic-bigfoot-ever%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> In the wilds of western Alberta, Canada, Ken Walker lives, hunts, creates, and sings Roy Orbison tracks. He’s a world champion taxidermist who specializes in recreations of extinct animals. He’s brought back stunning versions of the Sabretooth Tiger and the Irish Elk and his work is featured in the Smithsonian Institution. He’s also a Squatcher and in 2015, he began a quest to create a perfect version of the Bigfoot from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson–Gimlin_film" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">infamous 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film</a>, a not-so-little lady he calls “Patty”. Kansas City filmmaker Dan Wayne was taking on taxidermy as a hobby when he encountered Ken on an internet forum. He found Ken’s work fascinating and was amazed by the amount of access that this first-in-class taxidermist was giving him online to help developing his own skills. And when he discovered that Ken was working on a Sasquatch, he thought it would make a great documentary. And he was right. The ensuing documentary, which played at Slamdance Film Festival in 2020 is Big Fur, a compelling story about a man’s quest to recreate a creature that many have claim to have seen but only really has been captured on shaky 1967 filmstock. Ken said that he wanted Bigfoot experiencers to see his mount (what taxidermists call their creations) and say “That’s exactly what I saw.” Ken Walker with “Patty” I have been a Bigfoot skeptic for awhile now because I just have too many unanswered questions, but talking to Ken and Dan about their documentary and Ken’s theories on the creature have once again opened me up to the possibility. Skeptics, believers, and people just interested in Bigfoot and taxidermy will find a lot to enjoy in this wide-ranging and entertaining discussion, including: <ul><li>Ken’s own Bigfoot experience that led him to believe in Sasquatch</li><li>How he ended up with several bags of what he thinks is Sasquatch feces in his freezer</li><li>How you can tell a Hollywood-style fake Bigfoot costume from a real one (hint: it’s all in the forehead)</li><li>The careful measuring of ratio and dimensions that Ken used to determine the height and size of his creation</li><li>The electromagnetic energy of Bigfoot</li><li>Hunting Bigfoot with special <a href="https://www.raisedhunting.com/raised-hunting-hecs-clothing-work/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Faraday Cage camo suits</a></li><li>What kind of weird tree structures that Sasquatch are making out in the Alberta woods </li></ul> To learn more about where you can see <a href="http://www.bigfurmovie.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Big Fur, check out the movie website</a> and here’s a quick interview done by our friend <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> when he met Dan and Ken at Slamdance. For the song this week, we couldn’t resist a couple of things. Number one, Ken isn’t just a taxidermist but also a Roy Orbison impersonator (and he even sings a bunch in the film!) Number two, the fact that they call the sasquatch in the Patterson-Gimlin film “Patty” and I didn’t even realize it was a female, blew my mind. So, of course we couldn’t resist making a rockabilly song about our favorite new girl, “Patty”. 7 foot tall She’s the biggest girl around But when she’s feeling shy She’s nowhere to be found Oh Patty I know it’s all true Oh Patty, baby, I believe in you She don’t shave her legs She don’t shave her pits She got the hairiest face you ever gonna kiss. Oh Patty, where you think you’re going to? Oh Patty, baby, I believe in you. She’s an outdoors gal, Hiding in the trees, She don’t wear no shoes so I hope you like big feet. Oh Patty. Won’t you give us a little view? Oh Patty, baby, I be She’s a whole lotta lady Gigantopithicus She’s a California girl But she don’t like showbiz Oh Patty, They all tell me I’m a fool Oh Patty baby, I believe in you. 7 foot tall She’s the biggest girl around But when she’s feeling shy She’s nowhere to be found Oh Patty I know it’s all true. Oh Patty baby please don’t leave Oh Patty baby don’t deceive Oh Patty baby I believe in you The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/04/09/290-big-fur-creating-the-most-realistic-bigfoot-ever/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">290 – Big Fur: Creating The Most Realistic Bigfoot Ever</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

290 – Big Fur: Creating The Most Realistic Bigfoot Ever

Tweet With the world under quarantine for an indefinite amount of time and people everywhere being a little freaked out by the current circumstances of our COVID-19 isolation, we thought we’d brighten things up a little bit with some ghost stories that aren’t scary, but they’re happy!    Manuco Gandia from the Gallery Inn in San Juan, Puerto Rico and the parrot that scared the crap out of Mike. Photo by Macduff Everton    Wendy and I were joined for a podcast we recorded on Facebook Live with Allison Jornlin, Milwaukee’s Paranormal Researcher of the Year and WhatsYourGhostStory.com‘s Scott Markus to talk about the happiest ghost stories we know. In this episode, we talk about a ton of happy ghost stories and one not-so-happy one: The Gallery Inn in San Juan, Puerto Rico which is haunted by the ghost of the husband of the owner, Manuco Gandia and the stories that the staff told me personallyRudolph Valentino’s favorite haunts in HollywoodThe lovers that haunt the Miller Caves in Milwaukee, WisconsinThe spirit of North Hall on the University of Wisconsin campus and the ghost story there from my high school social studies teacher!How naturalist John Muir saved his professor’s life after a psychic premonitionMilwaukee’s own Hungarian Baron, adventurer Dr. Stephan Borhegyi who still haunts the Milwaukee Public MuseumThe ghosts of the Eastland Disaster and the ones that haunt Oprah’s Harpo Studios in Chicago (that’s the not so happy one)    Rudolph Valentino’s most famous role and his spirit still haunts his favorite places in Hollywood    It’s a fun episode for a weird time, but we hope you’ll enjoy these timeless tales of optimism from the Great Beyond. Ghost stories are often meant to scare and shock, and those are awesome, but they don’t have to always be that way! As Allison says, “Ghost stories mean there’s an afterlife and when there’s life, there’s hope.”  So for this week’s song, we wanted to play the heaviest, meanest song we could think of with the nicest lyrics we could think of. Here’s Sunspot with “Happy”! I’m in such a good moodBursting at the seams with blissA moment of perfection that feels just so joyous sugar, spice and everything niceLiving in paradiseThis delight is magnifiedI got the whole world on my side Rainbows and sunshine callingPuppies and hedgehogs crawlingMy cup runneth over andThis life is but a dreamSnuggles and rocking chairsLittle hugs and teddy bearsDid I mention that I’m so goddamn happy Feeling so majesticSo gleeful you could get sickSmiles and laughs and winks and my feet don’t touch the groundThe call me Mr. AwesomeDon’t need to feel cautionThis is my lucky day, love is all around. Rainbows and sunshine callingPuppies and hedgehogs crawlingMy cup runneth over andThis life is but a dreamSnuggles and rocking chairsLittle hugs and teddy bearsDid I mention that I’m so goddamn happy  The post 289 – Fortunate Phantoms: The World’s Happiest Ghost Stories appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F03%2F30%2F289-fortunate-phantoms-the-worlds-happiest-ghost-stories%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> With the world under quarantine for an indefinite amount of time and people everywhere being a little freaked out by the current circumstances of our COVID-19 isolation, we thought we’d brighten things up a little bit with some ghost stories that aren’t scary, but they’re happy! Manuco Gandia from the Gallery Inn in San Juan, Puerto Rico and the parrot that scared the crap out of Mike. Photo by Macduff Everton Wendy and I were joined for a podcast we recorded on Facebook Live with Allison Jornlin, <a href="https://milwaukeeparacon.com/wisconsin-researcher-of-the-year/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Milwaukee’s Paranormal Researcher of the Year</a> and <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a>‘s Scott Markus to talk about the happiest ghost stories we know. In this episode, we talk about a ton of happy ghost stories and one not-so-happy one: <ul><li>The Gallery Inn in San Juan, Puerto Rico which is haunted by the ghost of the husband of the owner, Manuco Gandia and the stories that the staff told me personally</li><li>Rudolph Valentino’s favorite haunts in Hollywood</li><li>The lovers that haunt the Miller Caves in Milwaukee, Wisconsin</li><li>The spirit of North Hall on the University of Wisconsin campus and the ghost story there from my high school social studies teacher!</li><li>How naturalist John Muir saved his professor’s life after a psychic premonition</li><li>Milwaukee’s own Hungarian Baron, adventurer Dr. Stephan Borhegyi who still haunts the Milwaukee Public Museum</li><li>The ghosts of the Eastland Disaster and the ones that haunt Oprah’s Harpo Studios in Chicago (that’s the not so happy one)</li></ul> Rudolph Valentino’s most famous role and his spirit still haunts his favorite places in Hollywood It’s a fun episode for a weird time, but we hope you’ll enjoy these timeless tales of optimism from the Great Beyond. Ghost stories are often meant to scare and shock, and those are awesome, but they don’t have to always be that way! As Allison says, “Ghost stories mean there’s an afterlife and when there’s life, there’s hope.” So for this week’s song, we wanted to play the heaviest, meanest song we could think of with the nicest lyrics we could think of. Here’s Sunspot with “Happy”! I’m in such a good mood Bursting at the seams with bliss A moment of perfection that feels just so joyous sugar, spice and everything nice Living in paradise This delight is magnified I got the whole world on my side Rainbows and sunshine calling Puppies and hedgehogs crawling My cup runneth over and This life is but a dream Snuggles and rocking chairs Little hugs and teddy bears Did I mention that I’m so goddamn happy Feeling so majestic So gleeful you could get sick Smiles and laughs and winks and my feet don’t touch the ground The call me Mr. Awesome Don’t need to feel caution This is my lucky day, love is all around. Rainbows and sunshine calling Puppies and hedgehogs crawling My cup runneth over and This life is but a dream Snuggles and rocking chairs Little hugs and teddy bears Did I mention that I’m so goddamn happy The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/03/30/289-fortunate-phantoms-the-worlds-happiest-ghost-stories/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">289 – Fortunate Phantoms: The World’s Happiest Ghost Stories</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

289 – Fortunate Phantoms: The World’s Happiest Ghost Stories

Tweet Every year on St. Patrick’s Day, we all hear the story of St. Patrick so we know it by heart, right? Even before most of us were old enough to slurp cheap green beer and scour the streets in search of Jameson, we knew the story of Ireland’s most famous Saint.  He used the shamrock to explain to the Pagan Celtic heathens the mystery of the Holy Trinity (three leaves in one shamrock equal the Father, Son, Holy Spirit all God) and he banished all the snakes from Ireland, right?  Not quite, bucko. Patrick was way cooler than that.  Sláinte from the Junior Varsity St. Patrick’s Day Parade! (Otherwise known as our Halloween show at an Irish bar)How about this? He was captured by Irish slaversAn ethereal voice helped him escape captivityHe had frickin’ magic duels with pagan wizards He argued with an angel about letting him judge the Irish souls on Doomsday.  Just in time for St. Patrick’s Day, we set the record straight on one of Ireland’s favorite saints in this episode celebrating his Feast day and some of our favorite Irish creatures.The Lady Wilde, Oscar’s Mother and Author of Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland If you’re looking to learn about Irish legends, faeries, and cryptids, one of the perfect places to start is Lady Lady Francesca Speranza Wilde and her book Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland. She wasn’t only a remarkable researcher, writer, and suffragist, but she raised literary giant Oscar Wilde . Even better since her book is in the public domain, you can read the whole thing right here.  Wendy took a dive in to talk about the legend of the banshee, which is steeped in the Celtic tradition of “keening” where a woman or group of women wail a lament over a dead body as part of the burial and grieving process. The banshee would be a premonition of the “keening woman” and it would signal a death in the family, sometimes in the form of an innocent virginal sister of the family who died early. This banshee image was the scariest I could find, damn.Banshees could also be a type of fairy and Irish legends are full of those as well, including the Phouka and the Kelpie. The Celtic word for the fae is Sidhe (pronounced “she”). Of course that includes everyone’s favorite, leprechauns, whose legends have even made it off Earth and into (ahem) outer space. Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com once again joins us to talk about the Hellfire Club, an Enlightenment-era Eyes Wide Shut-style party group whose ritualistic orgies that even Jonathan Swift (of Gulliver’s Travels fame said were “a brace of monsters, blasphemers and Bacchanalians”. Hellfire Club rumors include a huge black cat that haunts the grounds as well as stories of Satanic Black Masses where unwary passers-by were left scarred for life. In reality did they worship the Devil? Probably no more than the modern Church of Satan does, they were just rich pr!cks who wanted to party with no rules or repercussions. Scott also did a livestream of Irish legends that you might enjoy…It sounds like it was a lot more like Donna Tartt’s The Secret History than Ira Levin’s  Rosemary’s Baby, which is actually more frightening. It’s Satan’s job to ruin people’s lives, with humans, it’s our choice.The Hellfire Club on Montpelier Hill outside of Dublin, where rich playboys used to meet for sex and drinking parties meant to thumb their noses at Christian morality.  Photo by Joe King.Ireland is a place where it feels like anything can happen and the fanciful folk tales are legion, we also discuss: What strange (and kinda gross) Dark Ages fealty ritual did St. Patrick refuse that actually earned him respect?My experience seeing something magical at the Blarney CastleOur Irish episode on the weirdest St. Patrick’s Day traditionsHow Ireland’s other patron saint gave us the original story of the Loch Ness MonsterIreland as a European hot spot for UFOs For this week we decided to create some Irish jigs inspired by our discussion of Irish legends. This “trad set” includes three original tunes by Sunspot: Druid’s Duel, Lady Wilde’s Fetch, and The Fairy Rath! The post 288 – St. Patrick’s Day: Legends and Lore Of The Emerald Isle appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F03%2F17%2F288-st-patricks-day-legends-and-lore-of-the-emerald-isle%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Every year on St. Patrick’s Day, we all hear the story of St. Patrick so we know it by heart, right? Even before most of us were old enough to slurp cheap green beer and scour the streets in search of Jameson, we knew the story of Ireland’s most famous Saint. He used the shamrock to explain to the Pagan Celtic heathens the mystery of the Holy Trinity (three leaves in one shamrock equal the Father, Son, Holy Spirit all God) and he banished all the snakes from Ireland, right? Not quite, bucko. Patrick was way cooler than that. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A1inte" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sláinte</a> from the Junior Varsity St. Patrick’s Day Parade! (Otherwise known as our Halloween show at an Irish bar) How about this? <ul><li>He was captured by Irish slavers</li><li>An ethereal voice helped him escape captivity</li><li>He had frickin’ magic duels with pagan wizards </li><li>He argued with an angel about letting him judge the Irish souls on Doomsday. </li></ul> Just in time for St. Patrick’s Day, we set the record straight on one of Ireland’s favorite saints in this episode celebrating his Feast day and some of our favorite Irish creatures.The Lady Wilde, Oscar’s Mother and Author of Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland If you’re looking to learn about Irish legends, faeries, and cryptids, one of the perfect places to start is Lady Lady Francesca Speranza Wilde and her book Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland. She wasn’t only a remarkable researcher, writer, and suffragist, but she raised literary giant Oscar Wilde . Even better since her book is in the public domain, <a href="https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/ali/index.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">you can read the whole thing right here</a>. Wendy took a dive in to talk about the legend of the banshee, which is steeped in the Celtic tradition of “keening” where a woman or group of women wail a lament over a dead body as part of the burial and grieving process. The banshee would be a premonition of the “keening woman” and it would signal a death in the family, sometimes in the form of an innocent virginal sister of the family who died early. This banshee image was the scariest I could find, damn. Banshees could also be a type of fairy and Irish legends are full of those as well, including the Phouka and the Kelpie. The Celtic word for the fae is Sidhe (pronounced “she”). Of course that includes everyone’s favorite, leprechauns, whose legends have even made it off Earth and into (ahem) outer space. Scott Markus from <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> once again joins us to talk about the Hellfire Club, an Enlightenment-era Eyes Wide Shut-style party group whose ritualistic orgies that even Jonathan Swift (of Gulliver’s Travels fame said were “a brace of monsters, blasphemers and Bacchanalians”. Hellfire Club rumors include a huge black cat that haunts the grounds as well as stories of Satanic Black Masses where unwary passers-by were left scarred for life. In reality did they worship the Devil? Probably no more than the modern Church of Satan does, they were just rich pr!cks who wanted to party with no rules or repercussions. Scott also did a livestream of Irish legends that you might enjoy… It sounds like it was a lot more like <a href="https://amzn.to/3d9BaZd" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Donna Tartt’s The Secret History</a> than Ira Levin’s <a href="https://amzn.to/3d8oSAk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rosemary’s Baby</a>, which is actually more frightening. It’s Satan’s job to ruin people’s lives, with humans, it’s our choice.The Hellfire Club on Montpelier Hill outside of Dublin, where rich playboys used to meet for sex and drinking parties meant to thumb their noses at Christian morality. Photo by Joe King. Ireland is a place where it feels like anything can happen and the fanciful folk tales are legion, we also discuss: <ul><li>What strange (and kinda gross) Dark Ages fealty ritual did St. Patrick refuse that actually earned him respect?</li><li><a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/04/12/k-is-for-kissing-the-blarney-stone-and-a-mysterious-shadow-cat/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">My experience seeing something magical at the Blarney Castle</a></li><li>Our <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/03/13/187-luck-o-irish-st-patricks-day-traditions-mythss-legends/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Irish episode on the weirdest St. Patrick’s Day traditions</a></li><li>How Ireland’s other patron saint gave us the original story of the Loch Ness Monster</li><li><a href="https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/13-of-ireland-ufo-hotspots-153251" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ireland as a European hot spot for UFOs</a></li></ul> For this week we decided to create some Irish jigs inspired by our discussion of Irish legends. This “trad set” includes three original tunes by Sunspot: Druid’s Duel, Lady Wilde’s Fetch, and The Fairy Rath! The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/03/17/288-st-patricks-day-legends-and-lore-of-the-emerald-isle/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">288 – St. Patrick’s Day: Legends and Lore Of The Emerald Isle</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

288 – St. Patrick’s Day: Legends and Lore Of The Emerald Isle

Jack Osbourne

Katrina Weidman

Tweet Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman return on Friday The 13th to TRVL with the second season of Portals To Hell. Jack, of course, is the son of the rock ‘n’ roll Prince of Darkness, Ozzy Osbourne, and he grew up in the world of reality television as a star of the megapopular The Osbournes. He’s fully embraced his father’s legacy by not only producing paranormal reality TV but by becoming a ghost hunter himself! Katrina Weidman of course,  rose to television fame through Paranormal State (which also featured previous guest Chip Coffey) and three seasons of  Paranormal Lockdown with Ghost Adventures‘ Nick Groff.     Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman of Portals To Hell    We talked with Jack and Katrina about the upcoming episodes of the show and what they’ve learned about the supernatural and themselves through two seasons of investigating the paranormal together. Then Wendy and I talk about the legends of the portals to Hell throughout history as well as one of the most famous ones, in Stull, Kansas. We visited there last year and here’s my Facebook live video: Wendy and Scott from WhatsYourGhostStory.com visited Stull in 2017 and while they didn’t find a portal to Hell, they certainly found some weird burnt dirt by the ruins of the old chapel on the cemetery grounds.    The charred earth that Wendy was talking about in the episode    So, in addition to interviewing Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman, we also talk about: The “Gates of Hell” legends in Pennsylvania and IllinoisMy very own  “Gates of Hell” legend from Mukwonago, Wisconsin and the weird remains I found thereThe various portals to the Underworld in Ancient GreeceWhat exactly is Charon’s Obol?Why did people put pennies on the eyes of the deceased until the early Twentieth Century?The truth about the Siberian “Borehole To Hell” Now, Jack and Katrina purposefully going to places with a “dark energy” made me think about Nietzsche’s infamous passage from Beyond Good and Evil: Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.Friedrich W. Nietzsche  And of course, Portals to Hell is going to make me think about the  “Crack of Doom”, which Tolkien called the forge where Sauron from The Lord Of The Rings created the “One Ring to Rule Them All”. It’s where Frodo had to take the ring to be destroyed. But the phrase “crack of doom” originally meant something else. The word “crack” means an extremely loud noise, like a crack of thunder. And the “crack of doom” means the end of the world because that’s the loud noise of angelic trumpets that will sound  at the breaking  of the Seventh Seal. Which is the beginning of the last Judgement from the Book of Revelation where Jesus will return and bring the good souls to Heaven and cast the bad ones into the Lake of Fire. Catholic filmmaker Kevin Smith played with this idea in his film Red State. So you throw together a little Nietzsche, the gates of Hell, and the Lake of Fire and that’s how you get this week’s song, “The Crack of Doom” I took on the Devil so I could make my mark,I went fighting monsters and I stepped into the dark Tragedies, infamies, terrible bloody shames, they were waiting for meand they knew me by name I went to the Gates of Helland they followed me throughWhen you look at the abyssthe abyss looks at you. The crack of DoomThe crack of Doom I played a game with Evil, thinking it was just a goof.I swam in the Lake of Firebut I wasn’t fireproof.When you focus on atrocity the work gets worse and worse.The self-fulfilling prophecywill damn you like a curse. I went to the Gates of Helland they followed me throughWhen you look at the abyssthe abyss looks at you The crack of DoomThe crack of Doom The post 287 – Portals To Hell: Ghost Hunting With Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2020%2F03%2F13%2F287-portals-to-hell-ghost-hunting-with-jack-osbourne-and-katrina-weidman%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman return on Friday The 13th to TRVL with the second season of Portals To Hell. Jack, of course, is the son of the rock ‘n’ roll Prince of Darkness, Ozzy Osbourne, and he grew up in the world of reality television as a star of the megapopular The Osbournes. He’s fully embraced his father’s legacy by not only producing paranormal reality TV but by becoming a ghost hunter himself! Katrina Weidman of course, rose to television fame through Paranormal State (which also featured <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/286" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">previous guest Chip Coffey</a>) and three seasons of Paranormal Lockdown with Ghost Adventures‘ Nick Groff. Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman of Portals To Hell We talked with Jack and Katrina about the upcoming episodes of the show and what they’ve learned about the supernatural and themselves through two seasons of investigating the paranormal together. Then Wendy and I talk about the legends of the portals to Hell throughout history as well as one of the most famous ones, in Stull, Kansas. We visited there last year and here’s my Facebook live video: Wendy and Scott from<a href="https://voicesfromthegrave.wordpress.com/2017/12/01/haunted-road-trip-pt-2-cadillac-ranch-to-stull-cemetery/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> WhatsYourGhostStory.com visited Stull in 2017</a> and while they didn’t find a portal to Hell, they certainly found some weird burnt dirt by the ruins of the old chapel on the cemetery grounds. The charred earth that Wendy was talking about in the episode So, in addition to interviewing Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman, we also talk about: <ul><li>The “Gates of Hell” legends in Pennsylvania and Illinois</li><li>My very own “Gates of Hell” legend from Mukwonago, Wisconsin and the weird remains I found there</li><li>The various portals to the Underworld in Ancient Greece</li><li>What exactly is Charon’s Obol?</li><li>Why did people put pennies on the eyes of the deceased until the early Twentieth Century?</li><li>The truth about the Siberian “Borehole To Hell”</li></ul> Now, Jack and Katrina purposefully going to places with a “dark energy” made me think about Nietzsche’s infamous passage from Beyond Good and Evil: <blockquote>Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.Friedrich W. Nietzsche</blockquote> And of course, Portals to Hell is going to make me think about the “Crack of Doom”, which Tolkien called the forge where Sauron from The Lord Of The Rings created the “One Ring to Rule Them All”. It’s where Frodo had to take the ring to be destroyed. But the phrase “crack of doom” originally meant something else. The word “crack” means an extremely loud noise, like a crack of thunder. And the “crack of doom” means the end of the world because that’s the loud noise of angelic trumpets that will sound at the breaking of the Seventh Seal. Which is the beginning of the last Judgement from the Book of Revelation where Jesus will return and bring the good souls to Heaven and cast the bad ones into the Lake of Fire. Catholic filmmaker Kevin Smith played with this idea in his film Red State. So you throw together a little Nietzsche, the gates of Hell, and the Lake of Fire and that’s how you get this week’s song, “The Crack of Doom” I took on the Devil so I could make my mark, I went fighting monsters and I stepped into the dark Tragedies, infamies, terrible bloody shames, they were waiting for me and they knew me by name I went to the Gates of Hell and they followed me through When you look at the abyss the abyss looks at you. The crack of Doom The crack of Doom I played a game with Evil, thinking it was just a goof. I swam in the Lake of Fire but I wasn’t fireproof. When you focus on atrocity the work gets worse and worse. The self-fulfilling prophecy will damn you like a curse. I went to the Gates of Hell and they followed me through When you look at the abyss the abyss looks at you The crack of Doom The crack of Doom The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2020/03/13/287-portals-to-hell-ghost-hunting-with-jack-osbourne-and-katrina-weidman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">287 – Portals To Hell: Ghost Hunting With Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

287 – Portals To Hell: Ghost Hunting With Jack Osbourne and Katrina Weidman

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Tweet    YouTube had to pull the trailer because of the jump scare at the end, so consider yourself warned!    Nuns, they can be scary when they’re not evil! Rapping knuckles, washing mouths out with soap, the outfits and the stern looks are nightmare fuel for millions of Catholic schoolchildren. But when they’re creepy, that’s a whole different level of scary nun.  The Nun is the latest film in the series that began with The Conjuring in 2013. Who would have thought that Ed and Lorraine Warren would get their own cinematic universe? This new movie fleshes out the terrifying sister that was stalking Lorraine in the second film starting at the house from The Amityville Horror and haunting them all the way to England. While the new film The Nun is entirely fictional, the did base the evil nun demon’s name, Valak, on a real source and it’s origins go all the way back to the Old Testament. King Solomon was the son of David, the guy who beat the giant Goliath with a slingshot and eventually became King of Israel and the star on the Israeli flag is named after him. If King David existed, scholars place him somewhere around 1000 BC. His son, Solomon became king as well, and is famous for being super wise. He’s the one where two women came to him with a baby saying that they both were the real mother and asked him to choose one to be. He said that they should cut the baby in half and split it, and then when one of the women recoiled in horror, he said she was the true mother because she cared the most. I dunno that it would hold up in court today (well, I guess OJ’s acting skills were pretty handy with that glove) but the Judgement of Solomon story is one of his best known acts.    The Seal of Solomon – the symbol that is supposed to help give you power over demons. That is metal AF.   The other great act he is known for is building the first temple of Jerusalem, the one that took 7 years to build and housed the Ark of the Covenant from Raiders of the Lost Ark. That’s straight from the Bible, but where the fun stuff comes in is the Testament of Solomon, a work that was written in Greek sometime between the 1st and 5th Centuries. In that book, Solomon is given a ring by God with a magic seal that can enslave demons and make them work for you. He uses the ring to put 72 demons to work for him in building that great temple. Now, in the original Greek, the word “daemon” doesn’t necessarily mean evil, it just means any supernatural being. But in Medieval times, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian occultists took the concept and ran with it. They retconned Solomon from a wise king into a wizard and believed that you could conjure them yourself to try and make them work for you. And these Medieval occultists (and not so medieval, Aleister Crowley spent some time with the Keys of Solomon as well) didn’t think they were doing the Devil’s bidding. In fact, you use the name of God and Jesus to get the demon to work for you. They didn’t think of it as an un-Christian act at all to try and magically conjure demons to get their help. Try telling that to a fundamentalist today! The book The Lesser Key of Solomon was compiled in the Seventeenth Century from a variety of earlier sources and is a grimoire (book of magic spells) that names all of the demons that were enslaved and put to work by the Great Solomon. The 62nd demon on the list is Valak, who looks like a beautiful cherub riding around on a two-headed dragon and his specialty is finding lost treasures. He’s the demon that you want to conjure when you want to go dowsing. He also can help you find snakes, which sounds like a fun field trip.     Valak, The President of Hell    So, is he an evil nun? Nope. They just used the name because it had a cool origin and they were looking for some kind of narrative device to tie the characters of the Warrens to The Amityville Horror and the Enfield Poltergeist (and their connections to both of those cases were tenuous at best in real life as well.) So ancient Solomonic demons it is! However, The Nun director Corin Hardy did have his own ghost experience on the set of the film.  While the YouTube video says it’s crazy, it’s actually kind of believable. They shot parts of the film in an old Romanian fortress called Corvin Castle, it’s actually in Transylvania, and tourists are told that the Vlad the Impaler was  imprisoned there for seven years (but they’re not quite sure if that’s true or not.) Either way, it’s been investigated by Most Haunted as well as the bro-st hunters themselves, Ghost Adventures. So, it’s no surprise that this is the place Corin Hardy would have had his story. As he tells it, they were shooting in a very dark maze-like part of the fortress  and here’s how he puts it The sequence was called the “Corridor of Crosses”, a 200-foot long corridor… deep, dark, dank, dripping wet and to get to it you go down into it like a T-Junction. Where I was situated I had to be out of camera shot and the camera is going up and down this corridor. I was situated in one of these cells andit was literally a door to a corridor to a pitch black room.  There was crew, but the only light down there is the light we bring, very moody and atmospheric. There’s crosses hanging all through it, ya know, and there’s a lot of mist. There’s a mixture of what we’ve brought but it’s also all based in reality.When I go into the room I see these two guys from the crew, probably sound department sitting a little further back in the dark. I said hi and I think they must be Romanian, because we have crew members from different countries that don’t always speak (the language). I was focused on the film and turn my back, and sat with my back to these two guys. I’m watching the monitors and we were running the takes and it was complex shot with the camera, we had to spiral and track and it took awhile.Half an hour later I’ve been sitting in this darkness with these two guys there and I finally got the shot. You know when you do get the take, you get up and go “Oh, $%^&amp;ing  great!”, ya know? And I got up and I turn to the two men, “Oh, did you see that?” And then I turned around and there was just no one in the room and there hadn’t been anyone in there at all. There’s no where they could have come out.I’m sitting here, the room is behind me, and the door just here (points in front of him) and I seen them on the way in and felt that they were there the whole time.Corin Hardy, from his Comic-Con interview with CinemaBlend July 2017 However, Solomon ties another evil nun story together from the mid 1600s. A whole convent of nuns was supposedly possessed by demons and the featured public exorcisms with hundreds of people in the audience. It was claimed that the nuns were perverted by Father Urban Grandier, who made a pact with the Devil for the power to take sexual advantage of the nuns. One of the pieces of evidence that was eventually presented at his trial was the pact Grandier made with the devil, that was stolen from the Devil’s collection of contracts and delivered to the court by the demon Asmodeus,  number thirty-two in The Lesser Key of Solomon, and famously tricked by the king into helping build that First Temple of Jerusalem.  One of the nuns claimed to be possessed directly by him, because he was often associated in Christian theology as the demon who represents human lust. And that’s exactly what they were accusing Father Grandier of. He was eventually burned at the stake and his story was told in Aldous Huxley’s book, The Devils of Loudon, that was made into a scandalous (for the early 70s film, The Devils). For this week’s song, we were inspired by those badass grimoires from the Middle Ages. Naming demons isn’t just for Dungeons &amp; Dragons everybody, people believed in this stuff. But when you conjure demons baby, you play with fire! I evoke the lord of the wind The lesser key of Solomon I conjure to exist grimoire of the demonologist. And when you play with fire we all know  how it goes When you walk on the highwire watch your toes you’re so close or be left a ghost I call to life the myth to feel the dark kiss of Lilith I call from across the Styx the sweet revenge of Asmodeus. And when you play with fire we all know  how it goes When you walk on the highwire watch your toes you’re so close or be left a ghost The post 211 – Sisters of Evil: The Real Horror Stories Behind The Nun appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F08%2F29%2F211-sisters-of-evil-the-real-horror-stories-behind-the-nun%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> YouTube had to pull the trailer because of the jump scare at the end, so consider yourself warned! Nuns, they can be scary when they’re not evil! Rapping knuckles, washing mouths out with soap, the outfits and the stern looks are nightmare fuel for millions of Catholic schoolchildren. But when they’re creepy, that’s a whole different level of scary nun. The Nun is the latest film in the series that began with The Conjuring in 2013. Who would have thought that <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2016/06/06/95-ed/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ed and Lorraine Warren</a> would get their own cinematic universe? This new movie fleshes out the terrifying sister that was stalking Lorraine in the second film starting at the house from The Amityville Horror and haunting them all the way to England. While the new film The Nun is entirely fictional, the did base the evil nun demon’s name, Valak, on a real source and it’s origins go all the way back to the Old Testament. King Solomon was the son of David, the guy who beat the giant Goliath with a slingshot and eventually became King of Israel and the star on the Israeli flag is named after him. If King David existed, scholars place him somewhere around 1000 BC. His son, Solomon became king as well, and is famous for being super wise. He’s the one where two women came to him with a baby saying that they both were the real mother and asked him to choose one to be. He said that they should cut the baby in half and split it, and then when one of the women recoiled in horror, he said she was the true mother because she cared the most. I dunno that it would hold up in court today (well, I guess OJ’s acting skills were pretty handy with that glove) but the Judgement of Solomon story is one of his best known acts. The Seal of Solomon – the symbol that is supposed to help give you power over demons. That is metal AF. The other great act he is known for is building the first temple of Jerusalem, the one that took 7 years to build and housed the Ark of the Covenant from Raiders of the Lost Ark. That’s straight from the Bible, but where the fun stuff comes in is the Testament of Solomon, a work that was written in Greek sometime between the 1st and 5th Centuries. In that book, Solomon is given a ring by God with a magic seal that can enslave demons and make them work for you. He uses the ring to put 72 demons to work for him in building that great temple. Now, in the original Greek, the word “daemon” doesn’t necessarily mean evil, it just means any supernatural being. But in Medieval times, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian occultists took the concept and ran with it. They retconned Solomon from a wise king into a wizard and believed that you could conjure them yourself to try and make them work for you. And these Medieval occultists (and not so medieval, Aleister Crowley spent some time with the Keys of Solomon as well) didn’t think they were doing the Devil’s bidding. In fact, you use the name of God and Jesus to get the demon to work for you. They didn’t think of it as an un-Christian act at all to try and magically conjure demons to get their help. Try telling that to a fundamentalist today! The book The Lesser Key of Solomon was compiled in the Seventeenth Century from a variety of earlier sources and is a grimoire (book of magic spells) that names all of the demons that were enslaved and put to work by the Great Solomon. The 62nd demon on the list is Valak, who looks like a beautiful cherub riding around on a two-headed dragon and his specialty is finding lost treasures. He’s the demon that you want to conjure when you want to go dowsing. He also can help you find snakes, which sounds like a fun field trip. Valak, The President of Hell So, is he an evil nun? Nope. They just used the name because it had a cool origin and they were looking for some kind of narrative device to tie the characters of the Warrens to The Amityville Horror and the Enfield Poltergeist (and their connections to both of those cases were tenuous at best in real life as well.) So ancient Solomonic demons it is! However, The Nun director Corin Hardy did have his own ghost experience on the set of the film.  While the YouTube video says it’s crazy, it’s actually kind of believable. They shot parts of the film in an old Romanian fortress called Corvin Castle, it’s actually in Transylvania, and tourists are told that the Vlad the Impaler was  imprisoned there for seven years (but they’re not quite sure if that’s true or not.) Either way, it’s been investigated by Most Haunted as well as the bro-st hunters themselves, Ghost Adventures. So, it’s no surprise that this is the place Corin Hardy would have had his story. As he tells it, they were shooting in a very dark maze-like part of the fortress  and here’s how he puts it <blockquote>The sequence was called the “Corridor of Crosses”, a 200-foot long corridor… deep, dark, dank, dripping wet and to get to it you go down into it like a T-Junction. Where I was situated I had to be out of camera shot and the camera is going up and down this corridor. I was situated in one of these cells and it was literally a door to a corridor to a pitch black room.  There was crew, but the only light down there is the light we bring, very moody and atmospheric. There’s crosses hanging all through it, ya know, and there’s a lot of mist. There’s a mixture of what we’ve brought but it’s also all based in reality. When I go into the room I see these two guys from the crew, probably sound department sitting a little further back in the dark. I said hi and I think they must be Romanian, because we have crew members from different countries that don’t always speak (the language). I was focused on the film and turn my back, and sat with my back to these two guys. I’m watching the monitors and we were running the takes and it was complex shot with the camera, we had to spiral and track and it took awhile.Half an hour later I’ve been sitting in this darkness with these two guys there and I finally got the shot. You know when you do get the take, you get up and go “Oh, $%^&amp;ing  great!”, ya know? And I got up and I turn to the two men, “Oh, did you see that?” And then I turned around and there was just no one in the room and there hadn’t been anyone in there at all. There’s no where they could have come out.I’m sitting here, the room is behind me, and the door just here (points in front of him) and I seen them on the way in and felt that they were there the whole time.Corin Hardy, from his Comic-Con interview with CinemaBlend July 2017</blockquote> However, Solomon ties another evil nun story together from the mid 1600s. A whole convent of nuns was supposedly possessed by demons and the featured public exorcisms with hundreds of people in the audience. It was claimed that the nuns were perverted by Father Urban Grandier, who made a pact with the Devil for the power to take sexual advantage of the nuns. One of the pieces of evidence that was eventually presented at his trial was the pact Grandier made with the devil, that was stolen from the Devil’s collection of contracts and delivered to the court by the demon Asmodeus,  number thirty-two in The Lesser Key of Solomon, and famously tricked by the king into helping build that First Temple of Jerusalem.  One of the nuns claimed to be possessed directly by him, because he was often associated in Christian theology as the demon who represents human lust. And that’s exactly what they were accusing Father Grandier of. He was eventually burned at the stake and his story was told in Aldous Huxley’s book, The Devils of Loudon, that was made into a scandalous (for the early 70s film, The Devils). For this week’s song, we were inspired by those badass grimoires from the Middle Ages. Naming demons isn’t just for Dungeons &amp; Dragons everybody, people believed in this stuff. But when you conjure demons baby, you play with fire! I evoke the lord of the wind The lesser key of Solomon I conjure to exist grimoire of the demonologist. And when you play with fire we all know how it goes When you walk on the highwire watch your toes you’re so close or be left a ghost I call to life the myth to feel the dark kiss of Lilith I call from across the Styx the sweet revenge of Asmodeus. And when you play with fire we all know how it goes When you walk on the highwire watch your toes you’re so close or be left a ghost The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/08/29/211-sisters-of-evil-the-real-horror-stories-behind-the-nun/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">211 – Sisters of Evil: The Real Horror Stories Behind The Nun</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

211 – Sisters of Evil: The Real Horror Stories Behind The Nun

Peter Bebergal

Tweet At the beginning of the Millennium, I used to visit the website tarot.com almost every single day. It was a good-looking page that had some really cool tarot cards and it was free to do a little reading everyday. You could pay for a full “Celtic Cross” elaborate kind of thing, or you could just get a little three card session for free. You would ask it a specific question and get three cards back, one to tell you about yourself, one to tell you about your situation, and one to tell you about your challenges. But there was always something that I felt was off in trying to use a computer to divine something about your life. There’s no human element, there’s no psychic or medium to help you interpret the cards, while it felt interesting and fun, it never felt magical. Tarot on a computer screen never felt sacred. It’s zeroes and ones, I never felt what Peter Bebergal in his new book Strange Frequencies: The Extraordinary Story of the Technological Quest for the Supernatural, calls “enchantment”. That feeling you are participating in something outside your natural human experience, like religious ecstasy or the of meditation, or when you’re talking with a medium and they tell you things that are impossible to know. The last time we had Peter Bebergal on, we talked about his great book, Season of the Witch: How The Occult Saved Rock ‘n’ Roll, and this book is just as fascinating. He argues that using technology to uncover the paranormal has been with us since we started trying to explain the universe. Something as simple as rubbing a lucky rabbit’s foot is magical technology. It doesn’t have to be an Ovilus plucking words out of the ether. And really, is looking for signs of the future in animal entrails any different than a computer program designed to spit out random predictions? The same forces that would use the viscera to relay a message could just as easily use the zeroes and ones, couldn’t they?  Author Peter Bebergal  Fast forward fifteen years and I use my Apple Watch to meditate every day. I’ve listened to MP3s of hypnosis sessions where I try to recollect past lives. I use my phone alarm to wake me an hour before I’d normally awaken sometimes so that I can explore lucid dreaming. I’ve gone from someone who scoffed the first time a psychic told me that she would do phone and Skype sessions (all I could think of was Miss Cleo) to being shocked and amazed at some of the things I’ve been told during those very same sessions.  When you watch Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures, the technology is as big a part of the show as the history of the haunted location. They set up digital voice recorders to catch EVPs, thermal imaging cameras to look for variations in the temperature (cold spots!), Electromagnetic Field Detectors to reveal temporary energy fluctuations. We don’t have the technology to capture a spirit like in Ghostbusters, but we can try to “capture” phenomena on tape when they happen. Technology and the supernatural are more intertwined than ever, but as Peter argues in his book, that’s nothing new. Some of the things we touch on: The legend of the Golem, a creature created out of clay to defend oppressed Medieval Jews (and also how it’s basically the plot of the song “Iron Man” by Black Sabbath!)The clockwork automata of the Eighteenth Century, we cross the “Uncanny Valley” with creatures designed to imitate lifeHis experience at a seance with spirit photographer Shannon TaggartHis investigation into EVP technology and building a Tesla radio and homemade Spirit BoxOur shared experiences with Radio Shack electronics as kidsPlenty of examples of technology through history where humans try to manipulate reality or break on through to the other side In the episode, Wendy and I talk about how much fun we had at Krampusnacht in Milwaukee on the day before St. Nick’s. We have a whole episode dedicated to everyone’s favorite Christmas demon! Here’s a link to some amazing photos of Milwaukee Krampusnacht 2018 as well! The song this week is inspired by the title of Peter’s book Strange Frequencies and the Spirit Box. Even our most famous inventors, Edison and Tesla, both thought that they could eventually design a radio to communicate across the veil (or even between planets) and we took that idea and ran with it. Here is Sunspot with “The Strangest Frequency”. If I could talk to those I lost again to try and make amends among the graves Some kinda wiretap  from far beyond the map somehow these words get trapped between the waves Screaming in the darkness broadcasting our callsign hoping to break though reality a mechanical catharsis tuned in from the other side I heard you on the strangest frequency Finding patterns in the static is automatic with all these toys sufficiently  advanced technology is just necromancy with some white noise Screaming in the darkness broadcasting our callsign hoping to break though reality a mechanical catharsis tuned in from the other side I heard you on the strangest frequency I heard you on the strangest frequency I heard you on the strangest frequency The post 226 – Strange Frequencies: Technology and the Supernatural with Peter Bebergal appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F12%2F10%2F226-strange-frequencies-technology-and-the-supernatural-with-peter-bebergal%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> At the beginning of the Millennium, I used to visit the website <a href="http://tarot.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tarot.com</a> almost every single day. It was a good-looking page that had some really cool tarot cards and it was free to do a little reading everyday. You could pay for a full “Celtic Cross” elaborate kind of thing, or you could just get a little three card session for free. You would ask it a specific question and get three cards back, one to tell you about yourself, one to tell you about your situation, and one to tell you about your challenges. But there was always something that I felt was off in trying to use a computer to divine something about your life. There’s no human element, there’s no psychic or medium to help you interpret the cards, while it felt interesting and fun, it never felt magical. Tarot on a computer screen never felt sacred. It’s zeroes and ones, I never felt what Peter Bebergal in his new book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0143111825/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=sunspot-20&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;creativeASIN=0143111825&amp;linkId=3fd537cdad7cc99d77cc7e3b5c9b26d3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Strange Frequencies: The Extraordinary Story of the Technological Quest for the Supernatural</a>, calls “enchantment”. That feeling you are participating in something outside your natural human experience, like religious ecstasy or the of meditation, or when you’re talking with a medium and they tell you things that are impossible to know. The last time we had <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/26" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Peter Bebergal on, we talked about his great book, Season of the Witch: How The Occult Saved Rock ‘n’ Roll,</a> and this book is just as fascinating. He argues that using technology to uncover the paranormal has been with us since we started trying to explain the universe. Something as simple as rubbing a lucky rabbit’s foot is magical technology. It doesn’t have to be an Ovilus plucking words out of the ether. And really, is looking for signs of the future in animal entrails any different than a computer program designed to spit out random predictions? The same forces that would use the viscera to relay a message could just as easily use the zeroes and ones, couldn’t they? Author Peter Bebergal Fast forward fifteen years and I use my Apple Watch to meditate every day. I’ve listened to MP3s of hypnosis sessions where I try to recollect past lives. I use my phone alarm to wake me an hour before I’d normally awaken sometimes so that I can explore lucid dreaming. I’ve gone from someone who scoffed the first time a psychic told me that she would do phone and Skype sessions (all I could think of was Miss Cleo) to being shocked and amazed at some of the things I’ve been told during those very same sessions. When you watch Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures, the technology is as big a part of the show as the history of the haunted location. They set up digital voice recorders to catch EVPs, thermal imaging cameras to look for variations in the temperature (cold spots!), Electromagnetic Field Detectors to reveal temporary energy fluctuations. We don’t have the technology to capture a spirit like in Ghostbusters, but we can try to “capture” phenomena on tape when they happen. Technology and the supernatural are more intertwined than ever, but as Peter argues in his book, that’s nothing new. Some of the things we touch on: <ul><li>The legend of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Golem</a>, a creature created out of clay to defend oppressed Medieval Jews (<a href="https://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2008/04/we_are_iron_man.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">and also how it’s basically the plot of the song “Iron Man” by Black Sabbath!</a>)</li><li>The clockwork automata of the Eighteenth Century, we cross the “Uncanny Valley” <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/robotic-silver-swan-has-fascinated-fans-nearly-250-years-180962024/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">with creatures designed to imitate life</a></li><li>His experience at a seance with spirit photographer <a href="http://www.shannontaggart.com/spiritualist-technology/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Shannon Taggart</a></li><li>His investigation into EVP technology and building a <a href="https://gizmodo.com/5390059/build-the-spirit-radio-that-creeped-out-tesla-himself" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tesla radio</a> and homemade Spirit Box</li><li>Our shared experiences with <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Radio-Shack-Science-Fair-200-in-One-1-Electronic-Project-Lab-28-265-99-9-Complt/332936420386?epid=2254421225&amp;hash=item4d848e9c22:g:AgsAAOSwQqZcDLSm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Radio Shack electronics</a> as kids</li><li>Plenty of examples of technology through history where humans try to manipulate reality or break on through to the other side</li></ul> In the episode, Wendy and I talk about how much fun we had at Krampusnacht in Milwaukee on the day before St. Nick’s. <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/13" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">We have a whole episode dedicated to everyone’s favorite Christmas demon</a>! Here’s a link to some <a href="https://mlproductions.smugmug.com/Krampus-Nacht-2018/?fbclid=IwAR09LfaTf9k3NBPlwOK2EGdLoZ-9bO28F3v_HRSxf8T71XQ13oW3nad4kYc" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">amazing photos of Milwaukee Krampusnacht 2018 as well!</a> The song this week is inspired by the title of Peter’s book Strange Frequencies and the Spirit Box. Even our most famous inventors, Edison and Tesla, both thought that they could eventually design a radio to communicate across the veil (or even between planets) and we took that idea and ran with it. Here is Sunspot with “The Strangest Frequency”. If I could talk to those I lost again to try and make amends among the graves Some kinda wiretap from far beyond the map somehow these words get trapped between the waves Screaming in the darkness broadcasting our callsign hoping to break though reality a mechanical catharsis tuned in from the other side I heard you on the strangest frequency Finding patterns in the static is automatic with all these toys sufficiently advanced technology is just necromancy with some white noise Screaming in the darkness broadcasting our callsign hoping to break though reality a mechanical catharsis tuned in from the other side I heard you on the strangest frequency I heard you on the strangest frequency I heard you on the strangest frequency The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/12/10/226-strange-frequencies-technology-and-the-supernatural-with-peter-bebergal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">226 – Strange Frequencies: Technology and the Supernatural with Peter Bebergal</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

226 – Strange Frequencies: Technology and the Supernatural with Peter Bebergal

Tweet On June 23rd, 1950 there were 55 passengers and 3 crew on North West Orient Airlines Flight 2501 flying from New York City to Seattle. It was scheduled to stop over in Minneapolis but air traffic control lost communication with the plane shortly after it left Michigan and the plane was never heard from again.  An oil slick was found a few miles from the coast and some “shredded wreckage” and human body parts eventually wound up washing to shore (enough to form a mass grave, even if the identities were never revealed), but nothing else of the plane was ever found. It was the worst aviation disaster in American history up to that point. There was a horrible thunderstorm that night over the lake and it was also a busy night for air traffic. Could it have been lighting that hit the plane? Could they have flown too low to avoid traffic and crashed into the water? What happened? Valerie van Heest of the Michigan Shipwreck Research Association thinks she has some answers to why the plane went down, but without finding the rest of the plane, can never be sure. Author Clive Cussler (the guy who wrote Sahara, which in my opinion is a fun underrated popcorn movie!) has formed the National Underwater and Marine Agency and has helped fund a yearly search for the past 15 years. Matthew McConaughey getting ready to dive in himself and look for NWA Flight 2501 However, there’s more to this than meets the eye. Major Donald Keyhoe, one of the original flying saucer authors had claimed to have a government source that it might have been a UFO that the flight crashed into. Indeed, there were dozens of reports across the United States of UFOs that night. Allison from Milwaukee Ghosts has done lots of research on the paranormal possibilities here. As we reach the 68th anniversary and the search begins again, was the fuselage removed because there was something that we weren’t supposed to find? In this episode, we dig in deep. And since we’re discussing one of Lake Michigan’s greatest disappearances, we thought we’d use a Sunspot song this week about one of our own great disappearances. In 2002, we played some shows with a band in San Antonio and Austin, Texas called Racketbox. They were all military guys  from Fort Hood in Killeen and played loud fun in-your-face punk rock. Anyway, their guitarist was mysteriously only known as Mr. Foff. That’s it. The only thing we could find on Racketbox was an incomplete Purevolume profile and even then it only listed a guitar player as Michael Jackson (and they said it was THE Michael Jackson, who was still alive in 2002). From sharing Jack Daniels with him in his band van to seeing him rock out onstage, we never had a chance to learn his real name but we spent a lot of meaningful time with this Texas Wildman, even partying with him and his band members until the wee hours of the morning as 2002 passed into 2003 at some afterbar in Austin where it was impossible to find a cab and these were the days before GPS and Uber anyway. We went back to Wisconsin and in March the Iraq War started (on a night we were playing in Springfield, Illinois was when the Shock and Awe campaign began). Next time we went back to Texas was in May and we couldn’t find anything more on Racketbox or Mr. Foff. Four years later, we wrote a song about him on our album Neanderthal.  Good night, Mr. Foff. Wherever you are.  Another night, 12 other $h!tt* bands, Nothing to do, just sitting on our hands. Then somebody new came into town, He got us drunk, yeah, he turned the beat around. And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? Illustrated man, the ink on his skin tells the tale. Teen runaway, he’s done some time in jail. Even though the show was pretty lame, He earned our respect, but we never knew his real name. And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? (What happened to you, Mr. Foff?) I’d like to know what happened to you, Mr. Foff. I’m so glad we met that day, Mr. Foff. With that long black hair and that bada$$ leather jacket, You’re my man, You’re my man, You’re my man with Jack in the van, Mr. Foff. The post 201 – Lost Over Lake Michigan: The Disappearance of NWA Flight 2501 appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F06%2F20%2F201-lost-over-lake-michigan-the-disappearance-of-nwa-flight-2501%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> On June 23rd, 1950 there were 55 passengers and 3 crew on North West Orient Airlines Flight 2501 flying from New York City to Seattle. It was scheduled to stop over in Minneapolis but air traffic control lost communication with the plane shortly after it left Michigan and the plane was never heard from again. <a href="https://9p2edc.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/eb5abdee-b525-4628-8b94-f7ef860ae205_750x422.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> An oil slick was found a few miles from the coast and some “shredded wreckage” and human body parts eventually wound up washing to shore (enough to form a mass grave, even if the identities were never revealed), but nothing else of the plane was ever found. It was the worst aviation disaster in American history up to that point. There was a horrible thunderstorm that night over the lake and it was also a busy night for air traffic. Could it have been lighting that hit the plane? Could they have flown too low to avoid traffic and crashed into the water? What happened? Valerie van Heest of the Michigan Shipwreck Research Association thinks she has some answers to why the plane went down, but without finding the rest of the plane, can never be sure. Author Clive Cussler (the guy who wrote Sahara, which in my opinion is a fun underrated popcorn movie!) has formed the National Underwater and Marine Agency and has helped fund a yearly search for the past 15 years. <a href="https://9p2edc.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/ea79b93449640a09916cc1d33c931821.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>Matthew McConaughey getting ready to dive in himself and look for NWA Flight 2501 However, there’s more to this than meets the eye. Major Donald Keyhoe, one of the original flying saucer authors had claimed to have a government source that it might have been a UFO that the flight crashed into. Indeed, there were dozens of reports across the United States of UFOs that night. <a href="http://www.milwaukeeghosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison from Milwaukee Ghosts</a> has done lots of research on the paranormal possibilities here. As we reach the 68th anniversary and the search begins again, was the fuselage removed because there was something that we weren’t supposed to find? In this episode, we dig in deep. And since we’re discussing one of Lake Michigan’s greatest disappearances, we thought we’d use a Sunspot song this week about one of our own great disappearances. In 2002, we played some shows with a band in San Antonio and Austin, Texas called Racketbox. They were all military guys  from Fort Hood in Killeen and played loud fun in-your-face punk rock. Anyway, their guitarist was mysteriously only known as Mr. Foff. That’s it. The only thing we could find on Racketbox was an incomplete Purevolume profile and even then it only listed a guitar player as Michael Jackson (and they said it was THE Michael Jackson, who was still alive in 2002). From sharing Jack Daniels with him in his band van to seeing him rock out onstage, we never had a chance to learn his real name but we spent a lot of meaningful time with this Texas Wildman, even partying with him and his band members until the wee hours of the morning as 2002 passed into 2003 at some afterbar in Austin where it was impossible to find a cab and these were the days before GPS and Uber anyway. We went back to Wisconsin and in March the Iraq War started (on a night we were playing in Springfield, Illinois was when the Shock and Awe campaign began). Next time we went back to Texas was in May and we couldn’t find anything more on Racketbox or Mr. Foff. Four years later, we wrote a song about him on our album Neanderthal.  Good night, Mr. Foff. Wherever you are. Another night, 12 other $h!tt* bands, Nothing to do, just sitting on our hands. Then somebody new came into town, He got us drunk, yeah, he turned the beat around. And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? Illustrated man, the ink on his skin tells the tale. Teen runaway, he’s done some time in jail. Even though the show was pretty lame, He earned our respect, but we never knew his real name. And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? And I’d like to know what happened to you Mr. Foff, Did you leave the band? Do you still drink in the van? And I’m happy to say I met you that day, Mr Foff, Will we ever meet again? (What happened to you, Mr. Foff?) I’d like to know what happened to you, Mr. Foff. I’m so glad we met that day, Mr. Foff. With that long black hair and that bada$$ leather jacket, You’re my man, You’re my man, You’re my man with Jack in the van, Mr. Foff. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/06/20/201-lost-over-lake-michigan-the-disappearance-of-nwa-flight-2501/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">201 – Lost Over Lake Michigan: The Disappearance of NWA Flight 2501</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

201 – Lost Over Lake Michigan: The Disappearance of NWA Flight 2501

Greg Newkirk

Tweet We’ve had Greg and Dana Newkirk from The Traveling Museum of the Paranormal and Occult on the show several times before and they’ve always got great stories, whether they’re talking about the beautiful story of how they met or reminiscing about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We’ve hung out with them at numerous paranormal conventions and enjoyed their work. So when the webseries Hellier came out last year, it was exciting. First of all, the series looked amazing. Director Karl Pfeiffer opted for a classic cinematic documentary style instead of the paranormal reality show style that we’ve been used to for the past decade and a half. It’s much more Errol Morris than Zak Bagans.    The Hellier Goblin     The first series was a slow deliberate blow-by-blow investigation into a series of emails that Greg Newkirk received in 2012 from a Kentucky man who said that goblins were emerging from a cave on his property. Greg sat on it for a long time, but eventually he and his wife Dana joined forces with paranormal researchers  Connor Randall and Karl Pfeiffer who used to do paranormal investigations at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado, as well as paranormal adventurer Tyler Strand, who took a job at Mammoth Cave to help with the production and is just about as fearless as they come. In the end, the team didn’t get any goblins on video, so the people looking for a big reveal were disappointed. Most of the excitement happened through “synchronicities”, however, I applaud them for not making anything up. It still was an interesting methodical look into a paranormal investigation that used everything from tarot readings to “The Estes Method” (a mashup of a spirit box and the ganzfeld technique) in trying to discover the other side. So, a year later, the adventure begins again as the team goes out to investigate more questions that were left hanging at the end of the first season. Expanding on the connections they found in Hellier to the original Mothman case in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, they start searching for how the mysterious Indrid Cold, who features prominently in John Keel’s Mothman Prophecies book might figure into their research. Their investigation leads them further down that rabbit hole and eventually deep into the Mammoth Cave. Hellier 2 launched exclusively on Amazon Prime on Friday November 29th and it’s streaming on all services free starting on December 13th. We’ve watched several episodes that they’ve sent to the press and it still looks as amazing as ever. With the natural conversation segments, it often feels more like an episode of The Office than Ghost Hunters. But it’s that documentary-style and lack of flashy jump cut gotcha moments that make it feel much more real. It’s like a slice of life, albeit a slice of a weirdo’s life. I’m not sure if we’re gonna get those goblin money shots in episodes 6-10 (they only sent the first five episodes for press review), but the fact that they’re not teasing us with them the whole time is refreshing. They never catch the Zodiac Killer by the end of Zodiac, but it’s still a great look into the mind of the investigators.  And we look into that investigator’s mind in this interview with Greg Newkirk, where we go in depth about: What made them want to dive back into the world of HellierHow did the first series change the investigative techniques of the secondHave more synchronicities have popped up since the shooting ended? And speaking of synchronicities, there’s a scene shot at the very point where the Stillwater, Minnesota ghost tour starts (which is a company I run, but they shot in the winter so there wasn’t a tour running at the time!) Not a synchronicity, but something awesome, is that you’ll also hear a couple of Sunspot songs on the soundtrack of Hellier 2! The first Hellier took the investigators onto a route inspired by John Keel’s The Mothman Prophecies. One of the characters that shows up in that book is a strange self-proclaimed alien observer with a big smile named Indrid Cold. Early on in the new series, they talk to a the daughter of Woodrow Derenberger, a man who said he was stopped along the road by Indrid and then had contact with him over the next several years.  We have already done a song about Indrid called “The Grinning Man”, but we’re returning to Point Pleasant ourselves with his last quote to Woodrow Derenberger, “We’ll Be Seeing You Again”. I’ve got so far to go it feels like the road it never ends Sometimes it’s just me and my shadow it won’t stop til I am dead. I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again I keep on walking under The lights that dance in the sky through the rain and through the thunder trying to find a little sunshine. I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again I picked you to share my tale I picked you to show the way And when those red eyes fly right out of Hell I’m always a call away  I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again The post 275 – Hellier 2: Hunting Indrid Cold With Greg Newkirk appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F12%2F05%2F275-hellier-2-hunting-indrid-cold-with-greg-newkirk%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> We’ve had Greg and Dana Newkirk from The Traveling Museum of the Paranormal and Occult on the show several times before and they’ve always got great stories, whether they’re talking about the <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2016/09/27/111-professional-weirdos-paranormal-obsession-greg-dana-newkirk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">beautiful story of how they met</a> or reminiscing about <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2017/08/01/155-buffy-vampire-slayer-20-years-paranormal-inspiration/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>. We’ve hung out with them at <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2016/06/27/98-ghosts-mississippi-2016-haunted-america-conference-recap/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">numerous paranormal conventions </a>and enjoyed their work. So when the webseries Hellier came out last year, it was exciting. First of all, the series looked amazing. Director Karl Pfeiffer opted for a classic cinematic documentary style instead of the paranormal reality show style that we’ve been used to for the past decade and a half. It’s much more Errol Morris than Zak Bagans. The Hellier Goblin The first series was a slow deliberate blow-by-blow investigation into a series of emails that Greg Newkirk received in 2012 from a Kentucky man who said that goblins were emerging from a cave on his property. Greg sat on it for a long time, but eventually he and his wife Dana joined forces with paranormal researchers Connor Randall and Karl Pfeiffer who used to do paranormal investigations at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado, as well as paranormal adventurer Tyler Strand, who took a job at Mammoth Cave to help with the production and is just about as fearless as they come. In the end, the team didn’t get any goblins on video, so the people looking for a big reveal were disappointed. Most of the excitement happened through “synchronicities”, however, I applaud them for not making anything up. It still was an interesting methodical look into a paranormal investigation that used everything from tarot readings to “The Estes Method” (a mashup of a spirit box and the ganzfeld technique) in trying to discover the other side. So, a year later, the adventure begins again as the team goes out to investigate more questions that were left hanging at the end of the first season. Expanding on the connections they found in Hellier to the original Mothman case in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, they start searching for how the mysterious Indrid Cold, who features prominently in John Keel’s Mothman Prophecies book might figure into their research. Their investigation leads them further down that rabbit hole and eventually deep into the Mammoth Cave. Hellier 2 launched exclusively on Amazon Prime on Friday November 29th and it’s streaming on all services free starting on December 13th. We’ve watched several episodes that they’ve sent to the press and it still looks as amazing as ever. With the natural conversation segments, it often feels more like an episode of The Office than Ghost Hunters. But it’s that documentary-style and lack of flashy jump cut gotcha moments that make it feel much more real. It’s like a slice of life, albeit a slice of a weirdo’s life. I’m not sure if we’re gonna get those goblin money shots in episodes 6-10 (they only sent the first five episodes for press review), but the fact that they’re not teasing us with them the whole time is refreshing. They never catch the Zodiac Killer by the end of Zodiac, but it’s still a great look into the mind of the investigators. And we look into that investigator’s mind in this interview with Greg Newkirk, where we go in depth about: <ul><li>What made them want to dive back into the world of Hellier</li><li>How did the first series change the investigative techniques of the second</li><li>Have more synchronicities have popped up since the shooting ended?</li></ul> And speaking of synchronicities, there’s a scene shot at the very point where the <a href="http://www.stillwaterghosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stillwater, Minnesota ghost tour</a> starts (which is a company I run, but they shot in the winter so there wasn’t a tour running at the time!) Not a synchronicity, but something awesome, is that you’ll also hear a couple of Sunspot songs on the soundtrack of Hellier 2! The first Hellier took the investigators onto a route inspired by John Keel’s The Mothman Prophecies. One of the characters that shows up in that book is a strange self-proclaimed alien observer with a big smile named Indrid Cold. Early on in the new series, they talk to a the daughter of Woodrow Derenberger, a man who said he was stopped along the road by Indrid and then had contact with him over the next several years. We have already done a song about Indrid called <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjR0NfhgIvmAhVHMqwKHcK-DGgQFjAAegQIAhAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fsunspot.bandcamp.com%2Ftrack%2Fthe-grinning-man&amp;usg=AOvVaw1yvENyCF3cDtp5OGuekrk3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“The Grinning Man”</a>, but we’re returning to Point Pleasant ourselves with his last quote to Woodrow Derenberger, “We’ll Be Seeing You Again”. I’ve got so far to go it feels like the road it never ends Sometimes it’s just me and my shadow it won’t stop til I am dead. I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again I keep on walking under The lights that dance in the sky through the rain and through the thunder trying to find a little sunshine. I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again I picked you to share my tale I picked you to show the way And when those red eyes fly right out of Hell I’m always a call away I’m the searching kind with a curious mind I will say it all with a grin If I can be so bold you can call me cold and We’ll be seeing you again The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/12/05/275-hellier-2-hunting-indrid-cold-with-greg-newkirk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">275 – Hellier 2: Hunting Indrid Cold With Greg Newkirk</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

275 – Hellier 2: Hunting Indrid Cold With Greg Newkirk

Joe Bob Briggs

Tweet To those of us who are crazy about horror movies, there’s One Redneck To Rule Them All and that’s the host of MonsterVision, Joe Bob Briggs. To millions of impressionable teens, he was the voice who was able to find the best in cheesy horror movies. With his beer-drinkin’, nude scene-loving, onscreen violence-adorin’ attitude, he was the horror host that we all looked up to.  A comic (real name John Bloom) who turned an encyclopedic knowledge of low-budget horror and sci-fi film into a full-time Hollywood job of commenting and writing about movies, and we couldn’t get enough. Now it took me halfway through film school to get this, but the thing about movie lovers is that we love movies.  That’s a simple and seemingly obvious statement, but I want to clarify it because it means something. There are film snobs who can talk about the French New Wave and The Hollywood Renaissance and will pontificate on the power of Robert Bresson and Terence Malick and they are correct. Those movies are fantastic and while they take a cultured palate to appreciate, there is a passion that makes them rich and deserving of appreciation. And if you were a film geek like me, you watched At The Movies with Siskel &amp; Ebert, paid attention to the Academy Awards (before they gave a damn about “popular” films), and listened to your local overcompensating small town movie critic. We knew that there were “great films” and then we knew there were the movies that the rest of us watched for fun. So there were brilliant and artistic films out there that could stir the cultured soul… …and then there’s the lowest common denominator. Movies with simple plots that feature cheap grossout special effects to shock you, naked girls to tittilate you, and simple plots to so that even the lowest forehead Neanderthals among us can keep up. Guilty pleasures are what we call them. But why feel guilty? Joe Bob Briggs is the guy that made those guilty pleasures not just okay, but something to be proud of. He could find ways to appreciate films made with affection and love, even if the budget is minimal, and even if they’re just about monsters killing teenagers. He knew when to call a movie out when they were lazy, but he knew how to craft film appreciation for the movies that the other critics left behind.  We met up in Austin during SXSW 2019 and discussed some of his favorite movies, his new show on Shudder, and even the movies that he’s never been able to get for his drive-in but wishes he could. Now, it’s a live interview in the restaurant in a crowded hotel where we were passing the microphone back and forth, so the audio isn’t like we’re at home in the studio, so please keep that in mind when you take a listen.    Me and Joe Bob Briggs at SXSW 2019    According to Joe Bob Briggs, there are three B’s every good B-movie needs: BloodBreastsBeasts And that sounds to me like a recipe for the kind of film that I want to watch. His new series is called The Last Drive-In and you can stream the show on the online service, Shudder. It’s got everything from Tourist Trap to Re-Animator and features the directorial talents of genre favorites like Clive Barker and (UW-Madison alumni) Stuart Gordon. When Shudder decided to run a horror movie marathon with Joe Bob in July of 2018 it got so much traffic that it broke downt he service for them, which some said was a sign of the sheer popularity of low budget horror presented by people who love it, but as Joe Bob said, “We worked hard on something and wanted people to actually see it!” So, they decided to bring it back as a full Shudder series.  While Joe Bob played to a rapturous and packed house in Austin during SXSW 2019, he’s also going to be appearing in Milwaukee for the Twisted Dreams Film Festival on April 6th. I also got a chance to talk to Chris House and Stephen Milek from the Twisted Dreams festival where Joe Bob will be doing his show How Rednecks Saved Hollywood where he shows hundreds of clips in a live show about how Tinseltown has relied on the same redneck stereotype to bring in hundreds of millions of dollars in box office receipts.  And that Twisted Dreams Festival is something you’re not going to want to miss if you’re in the Midwest. From The Lake Michigan Monster to The Amazon Hotbox, Chris and Stephen tell us about the horror and exploitation movies made with love that are going to be showing at the festival. So not only do you get a chance to watch Joe Bob Briggs do his show live, you can support dozens of independent and Midwestern filmmakers. Click Here For Tickets Twisted Dreams is Milwaukee’s Horror Film Festival and Chris and Stephen tell me their original favorite gnere movies and what got them hooked on horror films, they also lay out some of the highlights of the film festival for not only splatter and scary movie fans, but for aspiring filmmakers as well. And c’mon, they’re giving a special achievement award to American Movie‘s inspirational Mark Borchardt (the man behind Coven!) so you know it’s going to be a lot of fun.     Me, my sister Allison Jornlin, and Mark Borchardt     Chris House is also a ghost hunter with the Paranormal Investigators of Milwaukee so you know that we have to talk a little bit on what film influenced his journey to study the other side and what films best represent paranormal investigation (and of course I asked Joe Bob if he’s ever seen a ghost himself!) Twisted Dreams Film Festival runs April 4th through 7th at the Times Cinema in Milwaukee. Click here to learn more and get tickets to this awesome event! For the song this week, we were inspired by Joe Bob’s Three B’s. After all, when it comes to a horror film what else do you need? Here’s our latest track inspired by Joe Bob himself, “Blood, Breasts, and Beasts”! There’s a creature in the wildernessthere’s a babysitter in a skintight dresspretty soon they’re gonna meet and it won’t be pretty I’m not worried about the misc en scene of horny adolescents All I know is someone is gonna die tonight. Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit  Gut-wrenching violence  and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that  gratuitous nudity So give me Blood  Breasts and Beasts There’s something underneath the floor,There’s a sadist behind the closet door,waiting for that couple to get it on. I’m not worried about the misc en scene,my interest is the prurient, All I know is someone is gonna die tonight. Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit  Gut-wrenching violence  and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that  gratuitous nudity So give me Blood  Breasts and Beasts gimme blood the stain’s getting redder gimme breasts the faker the bettergimme beasts attacking some scream queens gimme bloodthe floor’s getting wettergimme breaststhe tighter the sweatergimme beaststo rip apart some teens I want some… Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit  Gut-wrenching violence  and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that  gratuitous nudity So give me Blood  Breasts and Beasts The post 242 – Twisted Dreams: The Beauty of B-Movies With Joe Bob Briggs appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F04%2F01%2F242-twisted-dreams-the-beauty-of-b-movies-with-joe-bob-briggs%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> To those of us who are crazy about horror movies, there’s One Redneck To Rule Them All and that’s the host of MonsterVision, Joe Bob Briggs. To millions of impressionable teens, he was the voice who was able to find the best in cheesy horror movies. With his beer-drinkin’, nude scene-loving, onscreen violence-adorin’ attitude, he was the horror host that we all looked up to. A comic (real name John Bloom) who turned an encyclopedic knowledge of low-budget horror and sci-fi film into a full-time Hollywood job of commenting and writing about movies, and we couldn’t get enough. Now it took me halfway through film school to get this, but the thing about movie lovers is that we love movies. That’s a simple and seemingly obvious statement, but I want to clarify it because it means something. There are film snobs who can talk about the French New Wave and The Hollywood Renaissance and will pontificate on the power of Robert Bresson and Terence Malick and they are correct. Those movies are fantastic and while they take a cultured palate to appreciate, there is a passion that makes them rich and deserving of appreciation. And if you were a film geek like me, you watched At The Movies with Siskel &amp; Ebert, paid attention to the Academy Awards (before they gave a damn about “popular” films), and listened to your local overcompensating small town movie critic. We knew that there were “great films” and then we knew there were the movies that the rest of us watched for fun. So there were brilliant and artistic films out there that could stir the cultured soul… …and then there’s the lowest common denominator. Movies with simple plots that feature cheap grossout special effects to shock you, naked girls to tittilate you, and simple plots to so that even the lowest forehead Neanderthals among us can keep up. Guilty pleasures are what we call them. But why feel guilty? Joe Bob Briggs is the guy that made those guilty pleasures not just okay, but something to be proud of. He could find ways to appreciate films made with affection and love, even if the budget is minimal, and even if they’re just about monsters killing teenagers. He knew when to call a movie out when they were lazy, but he knew how to craft film appreciation for the movies that the other critics left behind. We met up in Austin during SXSW 2019 and discussed some of his favorite movies, his new show on Shudder, and even the movies that he’s never been able to get for his drive-in but wishes he could. Now, it’s a live interview in the restaurant in a crowded hotel where we were passing the microphone back and forth, so the audio isn’t like we’re at home in the studio, so please keep that in mind when you take a listen. Me and Joe Bob Briggs at SXSW 2019 According to Joe Bob Briggs, there are three B’s every good B-movie needs: <ul><li>Blood</li><li>Breasts</li><li>Beasts</li></ul> And that sounds to me like a recipe for the kind of film that I want to watch. His new series is called The Last Drive-In and <a href="https://www.shudder.com/series/watch/the-last-drive-in-with-joe-bob-briggs/4285429?season=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">you can stream the show on the online service, Shudder. </a>It’s got everything from Tourist Trap to Re-Animator and features the directorial talents of genre favorites like Clive Barker and (UW-Madison alumni) Stuart Gordon. When Shudder decided to run a horror movie marathon with Joe Bob in July of 2018 it got so much traffic that it broke downt he service for them, which some said was a sign of the sheer popularity of low budget horror presented by people who love it, but as Joe Bob said, “We worked hard on something and wanted people to actually see it!” So, they decided to bring it back as a full Shudder series. While Joe Bob played to a rapturous and packed house in Austin during SXSW 2019, he’s also going to be appearing in Milwaukee for the Twisted Dreams Film Festival on April 6th. I also got a chance to talk to Chris House and Stephen Milek from the Twisted Dreams festival where Joe Bob will be doing his show How Rednecks Saved Hollywood where he shows hundreds of clips in a live show about how Tinseltown has relied on the same redneck stereotype to bring in hundreds of millions of dollars in box office receipts. And that Twisted Dreams Festival is something you’re not going to want to miss if you’re in the Midwest. From The Lake Michigan Monster to The Amazon Hotbox, Chris and Stephen tell us about the horror and exploitation movies made with love that are going to be showing at the festival. So not only do you get a chance to watch Joe Bob Briggs do his show live, you can support dozens of independent and Midwestern filmmakers. <a href="https://omniwebticketing.com/times/?schdate=2019-04-06" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://omniwebticketing.com/times/?schdate=2019-04-06" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click Here For Tickets</a> Twisted Dreams is Milwaukee’s Horror Film Festival and Chris and Stephen tell me their original favorite gnere movies and what got them hooked on horror films, they also lay out some of the highlights of the film festival for not only splatter and scary movie fans, but for aspiring filmmakers as well. And c’mon, they’re giving a special achievement award to American Movie‘s inspirational Mark Borchardt (the man behind Coven!) so you know it’s going to be a lot of fun. Me, my sister Allison Jornlin, and Mark Borchardt Chris House is also a ghost hunter with the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjt6fr_qK7hAhUJP6wKHZ7AAC4QFjAAegQIARAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fparanormalmilwaukee.com%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2PPmKUXnvK4tvbiRSMhHgU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Paranormal Investigators of Milwaukee </a>so you know that we have to talk a little bit on what film influenced his journey to study the other side and what films best represent paranormal investigation (and of course I asked Joe Bob if he’s ever seen a ghost himself!) Twisted Dreams Film Festival runs April 4th through 7th at the Times Cinema in Milwaukee. <a href="http://www.twisteddreamsff.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Click here to learn more and get tickets to this awesome event!</a> For the song this week, we were inspired by Joe Bob’s Three B’s. After all, when it comes to a horror film what else do you need? Here’s our latest track inspired by Joe Bob himself, “Blood, Breasts, and Beasts”! There’s a creature in the wilderness there’s a babysitter in a skintight dress pretty soon they’re gonna meet and it won’t be pretty I’m not worried about the misc en scene of horny adolescents All I know is someone is gonna die tonight. Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit Gut-wrenching violence and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that gratuitous nudity So give me Blood Breasts and Beasts There’s something underneath the floor, There’s a sadist behind the closet door, waiting for that couple to get it on. I’m not worried about the misc en scene, my interest is the prurient, All I know is someone is gonna die tonight. Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit Gut-wrenching violence and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that gratuitous nudity So give me Blood Breasts and Beasts gimme blood the stain’s getting redder gimme breasts the faker the better gimme beasts attacking some scream queens gimme blood the floor’s getting wetter gimme breasts the tighter the sweater gimme beasts to rip apart some teens I want some… Monsters in rubber suits Killers in hot pursuit Gut-wrenching violence and a gruesome murder scene You know I love that gratuitous nudity So give me Blood Breasts and Beasts The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/04/01/242-twisted-dreams-the-beauty-of-b-movies-with-joe-bob-briggs/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">242 – Twisted Dreams: The Beauty of B-Movies With Joe Bob Briggs</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

242 – Twisted Dreams: The Beauty of B-Movies With Joe Bob Briggs

Tweet Since the Academy Awards were this weekend, we thought we’d do a uick update to our Oscar Love Curse episode that we recorded the same time last year (and to quote another Academy Award nominee from this year, another one bites the dust… Sorry, Brie Larson, you’re the latest victim of the Oscar Love Curse!) But celebrities are just one of the many things that people are superstitious about and we all do it to some extent. Have you ever called some piece of clothing like your tie or your hat or even your socks, “lucky”?  Do you ever perform a little ritual before doing something important? Maybe shave a certain way because the last time you did it that way, you had an amazing date? Or listen to a certain song because it gets you pumped up and you feel you need that confidence? That’s just basic human nature. We do things to try and convince our mind that success is on the way, it’s just a little bit of magical thinking in our lives, but sometimes it seems to help. But what happens when something horrible happens to you while you’re wearing a certain t-shirt or a pair of shoes or while a song is playing in the background? Do those things become “unlucky”? Well, that’s the question we tackle today as we discuss curses!  In this episode, Wendy and I are joined by Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com, Allison Jornlin from HawaiiParacon.com, and paranormal author C.E. Martin (check out his Stranger Than Fiction book!)  to talk about strange cases of cursed objects, people, and even bulidings!     You can give someone the Evil Eye and not even know it…  Allison has done some research into the Italian Evil Eye called Il Malocchio and it can curse you without the person even knowing it. Often the eye is caused when someone looks at you with envy or extreme jealousy. Some families have special rituals to combat Il Malocchio but they are kept very secret and can only be passed on one night of the year. In Ronnie James Dio’s family, he was taught that throwing up your rock fist was actually a defense against the Evil Eye and that’s one of the reasons he chose it as his onstage symbol and it’s now been assimilated into the rest of heavy metal culture. C.E. Martin (here’s his author page on Amazon) has had his own experiences with three curses in his life and he describes them here in his own words: 1. I was cursed at birth. My paternal grandmother, a member of the cultish “Eastern Star” organization, actually showed up at the hospital after I was born and proclaimed to everyone that she wished I’d been still-born. She hated my parents eloping, and took it out on my my entire life–until I was an adult and I realized I didn’t have to take her $%^T anymore.  2. I’m fairly certain my ghost stories book is cursed (Mike’s note: he’s talking about Stranger Than Fiction, but don’t be scared, it’s a great book!) Writing it took more than two years, filled with bad luck: my daughter’s scoliosis diagnosis, the ensuing therapy and surgery, my wife being in a car wreck, my fall down the stairs at home, my dog unexpectedly dying, my title being stolen, and my recent banning online for mentioning it on paranormal forums (to name a few of the calamities in that period). Best of all, the other day, as I was leaving work, I was thinking about the book as I walked toward the exit from the law office. I was wondering how I could promote the book’s 2 free days online. My thoughts were interrupted when not one, but two large pigeons flew into/rammed the glass of a large picture window I was walking toward, one right after the other. (they bounced off, recovered and landed safely on some nearby power lines). Definitely an omen of the banning that was coming the next morning.  3. A friend in the USAF removed a Nazi SS ceremonial dagger from a bunker in Italy that US forces opened up after the Italians had sealed it following WWII. The bunker had sat, sealed up for decades. US Forces were examining using it, and my pal was doing security on the site. He decided to stroll around inside and found it abandoned–as in, everything was there as if the Nazi’s had just teleported away or something. So he took a souveneir. Over the next few years, he had a whole string of terrible luck, including  his child getting some kind of strange fever that resulted in brain damage (the little boy was borderline mentally retarded after that and had lots of developmental problems). Eventually, my friend buried the dagger in the backyard of his base-housing quarters right before he and his family moved to their next base. The bad luck did not follow them.  https://amzn.to/2SqX4Mf In Scott’s book, Voices From The Chicago Grave, he talks about the curse of ‘Cap’ Streeter. George Wellington Streeter was a boat captain who was ferrying passengers from Milwaukee to Chicago on Lake Michigan when a storm capsized his boat near where Superior Drive is in modern Chicago. At the time, however, it was just a sandbar on the edge of the lake. Cap decided to stay there, claim it as his own (even independent from the United States) and made a living by creating a shantytown and garbage  heap there. Following scuffles with local law enforcement and some time in jail, Cap cursed the area and some very weird and sad things have happened in the locality since.    Elma Lockwood, George Cap Streeter, and Spot    We also discuss my trip to the Zak Bagans’ Haunted Museum in Las Vegas, where you can see a variety of “cursed” objects from Ed Gein’s Cauldron  to Jerry Lewis’ clown costume from a movie he thought was so bad that he never released it (and indeed said that he would not let it be shown until years after his death) The Day The Clown Cried.    Here’s the waiver that you sign at Zak Bagans’ Haunted Museum    While we were waiting in line, my wife saw a girl with waist length brown hair and a blue/grey dress running across the parking lot, and then  there was no little girl there. She said the girl looked 5 or 6 years old. I missed the entire thing because I was working on the waiver that you see above, but it was interesting because it was outside and not anywhere near the cursed objects.  Bagans does claim that the mansion is haunted, so maybe it was some kind of residual energy from the family that lived there for decades before it was turned into the museum. We looked for pictures (they talk about the family and the original house’s owner, Cyril S. Wengert, on the tour) and did find several photographs but none seemed to match up to the girl.  Either way, I was jealous! The weirdest thing I saw was a marionette that semed to move on its own and I had guides tell me conflicting stories about whether it was animatronic, or it had moved when the guide bumped the stage, or it was a ghost(!) So, that experience could be chalked up to whatever I choose to believe.         View this post on Instagram            A post shared by Mike Huberty (@sunspotmike) And it seems that’s how curses live and die, by what we choose to believe. That seemed like a good message for a song, that we’re always struggling against our own heads. They say there are only seven different kinds of conflict in storytelling and while one of them might be “Man vs. Supernatural”, it seems like the battle that is most applicable when you’re fighting a curse is “Man Vs. Self”. Conquering your own fears and superstitions is what this week’s song is all about. this is our jihad our fight is a spiritual war battling our basest instinct it’s so hard to ignore and we’ll take that to the morgue The fortune tellers will predict but your conviction is the trick superstitious fiction  don’t let yourself be deceived a curse as good as you believe Devour the cowards  drunk on the will to power Man vs. Self we go down mean The toughest fight you’ll ever face is taking on the whims of fate                be more than the dice roll of your genes Don’t believe everything you read you don’t need everything you see you’re more than your credit score don’t buy in when you should drop out don’t forget what it’s all about These are the moments that define these are the times that will go down history to the victor  don’t you mess around you better make your seconds count Devour the cowards  drunk on the will to power Man vs. Self we go down mean The toughest fight you’ll ever face is taking on the whims of fate                you’re more than the   dice roll of your genes The post 237 – Curses: From Evil Eyes to Jinxed Buildings appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F02%2F26%2F237-curses-from-evil-eyes-to-jinxed-buildings%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Since the Academy Awards were this weekend, we thought we’d do a uick update to our<a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjQgZDbx9jgAhWH5oMKHRE9BG4QFjABegQICBAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F02%2F27%2F185-oscar-love-curse-legends-lore-academy-awards%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw3BnlScCUyYyQDjJeOsB7E_" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Oscar Love Curse</a> episode that we recorded the same time last year (and to quote another Academy Award nominee from this year, another one bites the dust… <a href="https://hollywoodlife.com/2019/01/11/brie-larson-alex-greenwald-split-engagement-over-breakup/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sorry, Brie Larson, you’re the latest victim of the Oscar Love Curse!</a>) But celebrities are just one of the many things that people are superstitious about and we all do it to some extent. Have you ever called some piece of clothing like your tie or your hat or even your socks, “lucky”? Do you ever perform a little ritual before doing something important? Maybe shave a certain way because the last time you did it that way, you had an amazing date? Or listen to a certain song because it gets you pumped up and you feel you need that confidence? That’s just basic human nature. We do things to try and convince our mind that success is on the way, it’s just a little bit of magical thinking in our lives, but sometimes it seems to help. But what happens when something horrible happens to you while you’re wearing a certain t-shirt or a pair of shoes or while a song is playing in the background? Do those things become “unlucky”? Well, that’s the question we tackle today as we discuss curses! In this episode, Wendy and I are joined by Scott Markus from <a href="http://WhatsYourGhostStory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a>, Allison Jornlin from <a href="http://www.hawaiiparacon.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HawaiiParacon.com</a>, and paranormal author C.E. Martin (check out his St<a href="https://amzn.to/2tCnAYK" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ranger Than Fiction</a> book!) to talk about strange cases of cursed objects, people, and even bulidings! You can give someone the Evil Eye and not even know it… Allison has done some research into the Italian Evil Eye called Il Malocchio and it can curse you without the person even knowing it. Often the eye is caused when someone looks at you with envy or extreme jealousy. Some families have special rituals to combat Il Malocchio but they are kept very secret and can only be passed on one night of the year. In Ronnie James Dio’s family, he was taught that throwing up your rock fist was actually a defense against the Evil Eye and that’s one of the reasons he chose it as his onstage symbol and it’s now been assimilated into the rest of heavy metal culture. C.E. Martin (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/C.E.-Martin/e/B0089W99VC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here’s his author page on Amazon</a>) <a href="https://www.amazon.com/C.E.-Martin/e/B0089W99VC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">h</a>as had his own experiences with three curses in his life and he describes them here in his own words: 1. I was cursed at birth. My paternal grandmother, a member of the cultish “Eastern Star” organization, actually showed up at the hospital after I was born and proclaimed to everyone that she wished I’d been still-born. She hated my parents eloping, and took it out on my my entire life–until I was an adult and I realized I didn’t have to take her $%^T anymore.  2. I’m fairly certain my ghost stories book is cursed (Mike’s note: he’s talking about Stranger Than Fiction, but don’t be scared, it’s a great book!) Writing it took more than two years, filled with bad luck: my daughter’s scoliosis diagnosis, the ensuing therapy and surgery, my wife being in a car wreck, my fall down the stairs at home, my dog unexpectedly dying, my title being stolen, and my recent banning online for mentioning it on paranormal forums (to name a few of the calamities in that period). Best of all, the other day, as I was leaving work, I was thinking about the book as I walked toward the exit from the law office. I was wondering how I could promote the book’s 2 free days online. My thoughts were interrupted when not one, but two large pigeons flew into/rammed the glass of a large picture window I was walking toward, one right after the other. (they bounced off, recovered and landed safely on some nearby power lines). Definitely an omen of the banning that was coming the next morning.  3. A friend in the USAF removed a Nazi SS ceremonial dagger from a bunker in Italy that US forces opened up after the Italians had sealed it following WWII. The bunker had sat, sealed up for decades. US Forces were examining using it, and my pal was doing security on the site. He decided to stroll around inside and found it abandoned–as in, everything was there as if the Nazi’s had just teleported away or something. So he took a souveneir. Over the next few years, he had a whole string of terrible luck, including  his child getting some kind of strange fever that resulted in brain damage (the little boy was borderline mentally retarded after that and had lots of developmental problems). Eventually, my friend buried the dagger in the backyard of his base-housing quarters right before he and his family moved to their next base. The bad luck did not follow them.  <a href="https://amzn.to/2SqX4Mf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://amzn.to/2SqX4Mf</a> In Scott’s book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2SqX4Mf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Voices From The Chicago Grave</a>, he talks about the curse of ‘Cap’ Streeter. George Wellington Streeter was a boat captain who was ferrying passengers from Milwaukee to Chicago on Lake Michigan when a storm capsized his boat near where Superior Drive is in modern Chicago. At the time, however, it was just a sandbar on the edge of the lake. Cap decided to stay there, claim it as his own (even independent from the United States) and made a living by creating a shantytown and garbage heap there. Following scuffles with local law enforcement and some time in jail, Cap cursed the area and some very weird and sad things have happened in the locality since. Elma Lockwood, George Cap Streeter, and Spot We also discuss my trip to the <a href="https://thehauntedmuseum.com/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zak Bagans’ Haunted Museum in Las Vegas</a>, where you can see a variety of “cursed” objects from Ed Gein’s Cauldron to Jerry Lewis’ clown costume from a movie he thought was so bad that he never released it (and indeed said that he would not let it be shown until years after his death) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Clown_Cried" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Day The Clown Cried</a>. Here’s the waiver that you sign at Zak Bagans’ Haunted Museum While we were waiting in line, my wife saw a girl with waist length brown hair and a blue/grey dress running across the parking lot, and then there was no little girl there. She said the girl looked 5 or 6 years old. I missed the entire thing because I was working on the waiver that you see above, but it was interesting because it was outside and not anywhere near the cursed objects. Bagans does claim that the mansion is haunted, so maybe it was some kind of residual energy from the family that lived there for decades before it was turned into the museum. We looked for pictures (they talk about the family and the original house’s owner, <a href="https://nevadapreservation.org/ghost-adventures-local-historic-register-listing/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cyril S. Wengert</a>, on the tour) and did find <a href="http://d.library.unlv.edu/digital/collection/pho/id/21153/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">several photographs</a> but none seemed to match up to the girl. Either way, I was jealous! The weirdest thing I saw was a marionette that semed to move on its own and I had guides tell me conflicting stories about whether it was animatronic, or it had moved when the guide bumped the stage, or it was a ghost(!) So, that experience could be chalked up to whatever I choose to believe. <blockquote> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHrctBHoIE/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> View this post on Instagram </a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHrctBHoIE/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A post shared by Mike Huberty (@sunspotmike)</a></blockquote> And it seems that’s how curses live and die, by what we choose to believe. That seemed like a good message for a song, that we’re always struggling against our own heads. They say there are only seven different kinds of conflict in storytelling and while one of them might be “Man vs. Supernatural”, it seems like the battle that is most applicable when you’re fighting a curse is “Man Vs. Self”. Conquering your own fears and superstitions is what this week’s song is all about. this is our jihad our fight is a spiritual war battling our basest instinct it’s so hard to ignore and we’ll take that to the morgue The fortune tellers will predict but your conviction is the trick superstitious fiction don’t let yourself be deceived a curse as good as you believe Devour the cowards drunk on the will to power Man vs. Self we go down mean The toughest fight you’ll ever face is taking on the whims of fate be more than the dice roll of your genes Don’t believe everything you read you don’t need everything you see you’re more than your credit score don’t buy in when you should drop out don’t forget what it’s all about These are the moments that define these are the times that will go down history to the victor don’t you mess around you better make your seconds count Devour the cowards drunk on the will to power Man vs. Self we go down mean The toughest fight you’ll ever face is taking on the whims of fate you’re more than the dice roll of your genes The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/02/26/237-curses-from-evil-eyes-to-jinxed-buildings/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">237 – Curses: From Evil Eyes to Jinxed Buildings</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

237 – Curses: From Evil Eyes to Jinxed Buildings

Tweet Premiering this Friday August 16th at 8pm Central on the Travel Channel, Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests features the return of one of our favorite ghost hunting crews. Based out of Atlanta, Dalen Spratt, Juwan Mass and Marcus Harvey are real-life friends who investigate paranormal claims and seach for evidence of the supernatural.  To prepare for the new season of the show, we watched a screener of the first episode as they travel to Michigan to help a family that claims an entity in their home as actually physically harmed the  mother of the family living there. With a small child in the house, they’re worried about what might happen, so they call in the Ghost Brothers to investigate and see if they can help. I watched the premiere and it’s full of the things that makes this show stand out from other paranormal reality programming. It’s the guys themselves that make it fun and while they take the investigation seriously, they don’t take themselves too seriously. They just seem like actual human beings and their interactions with the experiencers at the house feel genuine and full of empathy. And they also play well off each other with jokes and an easy comraderie that doesn’t feel made up for a TV show. They’re definitely the ghost hunting team I’d like to have a beer with (well, I wouldn’t mind hanging out with Jack Osbourne, but I’d just pump him for stories from his dad’s heavy metal glory days.)          View this post on Instagram            Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests is coming to Travel Channel!  Get the details at the #linkinbio! A post shared by  Trvl Channel (@travelchannel) on Jul 18, 2019 at 2:01pm PDT While the premiere is a lot of fun to watch, I always get a little wary when the show relies too much on what a psychic medium experiences for paranormal proof and I don’t always trust the SLS camera as a ghost-hunting device for actually getting paranormal evidence (it’s designed to see patterns of movement because it’s trying to capture motion for a video game, it’s like a mechanized version of Pareidolia!) But when the REM Pod goes off and all other Hell breaks loose when the team sees something, it’s a great TV moment.  Plus, the stages of the investigation make for some good drama. The first night, they investigate with the family, then the next day they go off and try to do some research around the house. The second night, the team investigates alone or with a medium, and then the next day, they go through evidence and experiences and try to provide some kind of resolution.  As we’re getting to the next wave of paranormal entertainment, it’s no longer just about validating the “haunting”, it’s about solving it for the family. Almost like a priest coming in to perform the Roman Rite on a possession, the Ghost Brothers do what they can to make the family more comfortable in their home.  The sincerity that you feel in the show seems to hold over to real life, that’s if our interview with them that you’ll hear in this episode is any indication. We talk about: Their first paranormal experiences as individualsWhat their favorite ghost hunting techniques are and what they think works the best for obtaining evidenceThe moments in their investigations where they felt they had their own most authentic paranormal experiences For the song this week, we couldn’t pass up a great quote from our interview with the guys. When I asked them if they ever sugarcoat their findings for the families who have to live in those houses, the answer was a quick, “We keep it real, we keep it funky. Yeah, we keep it straight funky”. That seemed like the perfect inspiration to start a song about the Ghost Brothers with. Here’s some Sunspot with “Ghost Funk”. We keep it real, we keep it funky. I know there’s something out thereI’ve seen too much to pretendWell I know in my soul there never is an endBut it’s more than just a leap of faithit’s gotta take some proofand my EMF detector is jumping through the roof I’m not an actoror just here to debunkNo I came for answersSo gimme some of that ghost funkYou might play it straightin your normal lifebut when we’re on the other side Keep it funky.  When you won’t go in the atticor the basement all aloneWe’re the team you can call on to see who’s haunting your homeYou don’t have to run out the dooror need to sell the placeWe’ve got a history with mysteryand babe we’re on the case cuz There are some things you can’t unseeonce you have touched infinityIt might stretch your realityto know the truth that’s lying just behind the screen I’m not an actoror just here to debunkNo I came for answersSo gimme some of that ghost funkYou might play it straightin your normal lifebut when we’re on the other sideKeep it funky.  The post 259 – Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F08%2F13%2F259-ghost-brothers-haunted-houseguests%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Premiering this Friday August 16th at 8pm Central on the Travel Channel, Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests features the return of one of our favorite ghost hunting crews. Based out of Atlanta, Dalen Spratt, Juwan Mass and Marcus Harvey are real-life friends who investigate paranormal claims and seach for evidence of the supernatural. To prepare for the new season of the show, we watched a screener of the first episode as they travel to Michigan to help a family that claims an entity in their home as actually physically harmed the mother of the family living there. With a small child in the house, they’re worried about what might happen, so they call in the Ghost Brothers to investigate and see if they can help. I watched the premiere and it’s full of the things that makes this show stand out from other paranormal reality programming. It’s the guys themselves that make it fun and while they take the investigation seriously, they don’t take themselves too seriously. They just seem like actual human beings and their interactions with the experiencers at the house feel genuine and full of empathy. And they also play well off each other with jokes and an easy comraderie that doesn’t feel made up for a TV show. They’re definitely the ghost hunting team I’d like to have a beer with (well, I wouldn’t mind hanging out with Jack Osbourne, but I’d just pump him for stories from his dad’s heavy metal glory days.) <blockquote> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B0Eoq44Fknd/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"> View this post on Instagram </a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B0Eoq44Fknd/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"> Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests is coming to Travel Channel! Get the details at the #linkinbio!</a> A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/travelchannel/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"> Trvl Channel</a> (@travelchannel) on Jul 18, 2019 at 2:01pm PDT</blockquote> While the premiere is a lot of fun to watch, I always get a little wary when the show relies too much on what a psychic medium experiences for paranormal proof and I don’t always trust the SLS camera as a ghost-hunting device for actually getting paranormal evidence (it’s designed to see patterns of movement because it’s trying to capture motion for a video game, it’s like a mechanized version of Pareidolia!) But when the REM Pod goes off and all other Hell breaks loose when the team sees something, it’s a great TV moment. Plus, the stages of the investigation make for some good drama. The first night, they investigate with the family, then the next day they go off and try to do some research around the house. The second night, the team investigates alone or with a medium, and then the next day, they go through evidence and experiences and try to provide some kind of resolution. As we’re getting to the next wave of paranormal entertainment, it’s no longer just about validating the “haunting”, it’s about solving it for the family. Almost like a priest coming in to perform the Roman Rite on a possession, the Ghost Brothers do what they can to make the family more comfortable in their home. The sincerity that you feel in the show seems to hold over to real life, that’s if our interview with them that you’ll hear in this episode is any indication. We talk about: <ul><li>Their first paranormal experiences as individuals</li><li>What their favorite ghost hunting techniques are and what they think works the best for obtaining evidence</li><li>The moments in their investigations where they felt they had their own most authentic paranormal experiences</li></ul> For the song this week, we couldn’t pass up a great quote from our interview with the guys. When I asked them if they ever sugarcoat their findings for the families who have to live in those houses, the answer was a quick, “We keep it real, we keep it funky. Yeah, we keep it straight funky”. That seemed like the perfect inspiration to start a song about the Ghost Brothers with. Here’s some Sunspot with “Ghost Funk”. We keep it real, we keep it funky. I know there’s something out there I’ve seen too much to pretend Well I know in my soul there never is an end But it’s more than just a leap of faith it’s gotta take some proof and my EMF detector is jumping through the roof I’m not an actor or just here to debunk No I came for answers So gimme some of that ghost funk You might play it straight in your normal life but when we’re on the other side Keep it funky. When you won’t go in the attic or the basement all alone We’re the team you can call on to see who’s haunting your home You don’t have to run out the door or need to sell the place We’ve got a history with mystery and babe we’re on the case cuz There are some things you can’t unsee once you have touched infinity It might stretch your reality to know the truth that’s lying just behind the screen I’m not an actor or just here to debunk No I came for answers So gimme some of that ghost funk You might play it straight in your normal life but when we’re on the other side Keep it funky. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/08/13/259-ghost-brothers-haunted-houseguests/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">259 – Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

259 – Ghost Brothers: Haunted Houseguests

Joshua Zeman

Tweet When you’re growing up, the world outside your home is a scary place. It’s full of drug addicts, gang members, child molesters, and serial killers. There’s a sicko with a cargo van hanging around outside your school. There’s a psycho with hook for a hand who preys on young lovers. There’s a weirdo who gets off on sneaking needles into your Halloween candy for a real Trick or Treat surprise. Urban legends are lessons hidden in horror stories. They’re just “stranger danger” in narrative form. As a powerless child against the wicked world, you need to be warned about not getting into unknown vans, about being careful who you accept gifts from, and about not getting it on at Make-Out Point. These tales of the poor souls who didn’t heed these warnings make for a memorable reminder of what can happen when you stray too far from the path.  Growing up pre-Internet, there was no Snopes.com to check out the veracity of these stories. You could go to the library and meander through thousands of newspaper microfilms and microfiches (do they even teach kids how to use microfiche anymore?) to find out, but nobody was going to do that. You kind of just filed it in the back of your mind as a story meant to keep you from getting into trouble and it usually only entered your mind when you were wandering around in the woods or were rummaging through your Halloween candy. I always knew that most urban legends contained a kernel of truth because my mother was a horror story specialist. Her cautionary tales about child murderers and bus stop rapists were ripped right from the headlines that her sharp memory wouldn’t let her forget. She could recall details from a newspaper article from a dozen years previous, especially if it was gruesome. When I was told a scary story as a warning, I knew that it wasn’t just a myth, there was something to it. And we lived near Milwaukee, so those serial killer legends weren’t just a rumor, we had Jeffrey Dahmer himself. Joshua Zeman, filmmaker and legend tripper Joshua Zeman grew up in New York City’s Staten Island with the legend of “Cropsey”. Cropsey was a deranged mental patient who escaped the Willowbrook mental institution (the largest asylum in the United States at the time and notorious for its foul living conditions) and lived somewhere in the woods on the 375-acre facility. When a kid disappeared in Staten Island, it was Cropsey who was blamed for sneaking out of the forest and abducting the child. The tall tale even inspired two 80s slasher films, The Burning and Madman. In the late 2000s, long fascinated with horror stories, he decided to make a documentary film about the legend of Cropsey. While doing so, he discovered the kernel of truth that birthed the legend and got rave reviews from Roger Ebert to The New York Times doing so. Cropsey‘s success led him to partner up with filmmaker Rachel Mills  on another film about exploring popular urban myths called Killer Legends where they tackle the murderer with the hook for a hand, poison Halloween candy, why clowns are scary, and the babysitter nightmare where “the call is coming from inside the house!”  I first saw Cropsey on Hulu a couple years back and I was hooked and devoured Killer Legends immediately after. He and Rachel followed that up with the true crime documentary The Killing Season which was an A&amp;E series on the hunt for the Long Island Serial Killer. Our friend Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com knew Josh so he hooked us up and I got to talk to him about his storytelling and his movies as we dive into these topics:  What is universal about urban legends across our culture What is the purpose behind giving these nicknames to serial killers? Why are we drawn to these horrific morality plays? What’s the most surprising thing that Josh found in his research of urban legends across America? What is the story behind the world’s loneliest creature, the 52-hertz whale?  Josh Zeman – Twitter Cropsey – Facebook Cropsey – On AMAZON The Killing Season – On AMAZON The Killing Season – On A&amp;E Killer Legends – On AMAZON Killer Legends – ON NETFLIX The song this week is inspired by Josh’s films, a tune that could work as a spooky soundtrack about finding the truth behind urban myths Every story’s the sameno matter where you go toIt’s just the names that have  changedbut they can’t hide the truthwhen you’re out playing gamesdeadly eyes are watching youit’s the hook for a handthat’ll skin you aliveit’s the white paneled vanbeckoning you insideBrutal is this landwhere the innocent dieEvery town has a secretand every bridge has a trolland every one among ushas a little stain on their soulThe post 203 – Hunting Urban Legends: An Interview with Joshua Zeman appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F07%2F02%2F203-hunting-urban-legends-an-interview-with-joshua-zeman%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> When you’re growing up, the world outside your home is a scary place. It’s full of drug addicts, gang members, child molesters, and serial killers. There’s a sicko with a cargo van hanging around outside your school. There’s a psycho with hook for a hand who preys on young lovers. There’s a weirdo who gets off on sneaking needles into your Halloween candy for a real Trick or Treat surprise. Urban legends are lessons hidden in horror stories. They’re just “stranger danger” in narrative form. As a powerless child against the wicked world, you need to be warned about not getting into unknown vans, about being careful who you accept gifts from, and about not getting it on at <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MakeOutPoint" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Make-Out Point</a>. These tales of the poor souls who didn’t heed these warnings make for a memorable reminder of what can happen when you stray too far from the path. Growing up pre-Internet, there was no <a href="https://www.snopes.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Snopes.com</a> to check out the veracity of these stories. You could go to the library and meander through thousands of newspaper microfilms and microfiches (do they even teach kids how to use microfiche anymore?) to find out, but nobody was going to do that. You kind of just filed it in the back of your mind as a story meant to keep you from getting into trouble and it usually only entered your mind when you were wandering around in the woods or were rummaging through your Halloween candy. I always knew that most urban legends contained a kernel of truth because my mother was a horror story specialist. Her cautionary tales about child murderers and bus stop rapists were ripped right from the headlines that her sharp memory wouldn’t let her forget. She could recall details from a newspaper article from a dozen years previous, especially if it was gruesome. When I was told a scary story as a warning, I knew that it wasn’t just a myth, there was something to it. And we lived near Milwaukee, so those serial killer legends weren’t just a rumor, we had Jeffrey Dahmer himself. <a href="http://www.americas-most-haunted.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tks-bio-joshua-1920x1080-768x432.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>Joshua Zeman, filmmaker and legend tripper Joshua Zeman grew up in New York City’s Staten Island with the legend of “Cropsey”. Cropsey was a deranged mental patient who escaped the Willowbrook mental institution (<a href="https://timeline.com/willowbrook-the-institution-that-shocked-a-nation-into-changing-its-laws-c847acb44e0d" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the largest asylum in the United States at the time and notorious for its foul living conditions</a>) and lived somewhere in the woods on the 375-acre facility. When a kid disappeared in Staten Island, it was Cropsey who was blamed for sneaking out of the forest and abducting the child. The tall tale even inspired two 80s slasher films, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burning_(film)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Burning</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_(1982_film)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Madman</a>. In the late 2000s, long fascinated with horror stories, he decided to make a <a href="http://cropseylegend.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">documentary film about the legend of Cropsey</a>. While doing so, he discovered the kernel of truth that birthed the legend and got rave reviews from <a href="http://cropseylegend.com/pressr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Roger Ebert to </a><a href="http://cropseylegend.com/pressr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The New York Times</a> doing so. Cropsey‘s success led him to partner up with filmmaker Rachel Mills  on another film about exploring popular urban myths called Killer Legends where they tackle the murderer with the hook for a hand, poison Halloween candy, why clowns are scary, and the babysitter nightmare where “the call is coming from inside the house!” I first saw Cropsey on Hulu a couple years back and I was hooked and devoured Killer Legends immediately after. He and Rachel followed that up with the true crime documentary The Killing Season which was an A&amp;E series on the hunt for the Long Island Serial Killer. Our friend <a href="http://whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> knew Josh so he hooked us up and I got to talk to him about his storytelling and his movies as we dive into these topics: <ul> <li>What is universal about urban legends across our culture</li> <li>What is the purpose behind giving these nicknames to serial killers?</li> <li>Why are we drawn to these horrific morality plays?</li> <li>What’s the most surprising thing that Josh found in his research of urban legends across America?</li> <li>What is the story behind the world’s loneliest creature, the 52-hertz whale?</li> </ul> <a href="https://twitter.com/joshzeman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Josh Zeman – Twitter</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cropseylegend/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cropsey – Facebook</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B004FTMNN4/ref=atv_dl_rdr" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cropsey – On AMAZON</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Whoever-Fears-Monsters/dp/B01N8ULOG9/ref=sr_1_1?s=instant-video&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480447599&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=the+killing+season" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Killing Season – On AMAZON</a> <a href="https://www.aetv.com/shows/the-killing-season" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Killing Season – On A&amp;E</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Legends-Rachel-Mills/dp/B00M4QPTQS/ref=sr_1_1?s=instant-video&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500039168&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Killer+Legends" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Killer Legends – On AMAZON</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007015" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Killer Legends – ON NETFLIX</a> The song this week is inspired by Josh’s films, a tune that could work as a spooky soundtrack about finding the truth behind urban myths Every story’s the same no matter where you go toIt’s just the names that have  changed but they can’t hide the truthwhen you’re out playing games deadly eyes are watching youit’s the hook for a hand that’ll skin you aliveit’s the white paneled van beckoning you insideBrutal is this land where the innocent dieEvery town has a secret and every bridge has a troll and every one among us has a little stain on their soul The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/07/02/203-hunting-urban-legends-an-interview-with-joshua-zeman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">203 – Hunting Urban Legends: An Interview with Joshua Zeman</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

203 – Hunting Urban Legends: An Interview with Joshua Zeman

Tweet After being dead for almost three decades, serial killer Ted Bundy is back in the news. Of course, true crime TV shows are in big time since Making A Murderer set the world on fire three years ago, so Netflix is continuing the trend with their come series, Confessions of a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes. It’s the first thing you see when you open Netflix and people are reacting to it.  Now Ted Bundy was a charismatic guy in real life and he’s been played by Hollywood heartthrob Mark Harmon and is there’s currently a movie where he’s going to be played by former teen idol, Zac Efron. So many people have been commenting about how good-looking this brutal serial killer/rapist/necrophiliac was, that Netflix this week had to issue a statement letting people know that talking about how Ted Bundy is attractive is not really that cool. I've seen a lot of talk about Ted Bundy’s alleged hotness and would like to gently remind everyone that there are literally THOUSANDS of hot men on the service — almost all of whom are not convicted serial murderers— Netflix (@netflix) January 28, 2019 So, Ted is back in the news, but that’s not the only reason. Jumping in on the trend, Ghost Adventures  star Zak Bagans just bought Ted Bundy’s glasses for $50,000 so that he can display them in his haunted museum in Las Vegas.  That’s almost twice what he paid for the Demon House in Gary, Indiana.  Now there’s no guarantee that Ted Bundy actually wore the glasses, but they did find them in a car that he had stolen, so chances are that they’re his. Is it a cursed object? Well, the jury is still out, but people have been seeing Ted Bundy’s ghost since shortly after he was executed. In fact, the story goes that so many guards were seeing his ghost in the electric chair that they refused to enter the execution room alone. Other guards say that he was taunting them from beyond the grave, saying things like “Well, I beat you guys, didn’t I?” Messed up. Reminds me of Horace Pinker from Wes Craven’s criminally underrated Shocker, where the killer is about to be electrocuted and they ask him, “Does the prisoner have any final words?” and he replies, “Yeah, no more Mr. Nice Guy.” The Megadeth version of “No More Mr. Nice Guy” on the Shocker soundtrack is Epic as well! My sister Allison closed out the episode by also brings out an interesting story she heard this week about how former New Age guru Doreen Virtue turned around and renounced her former Pagan ways and became a Born Again Christian. She says that all the stuff she used to believe in was actually a pathway to The Devil and Doreen’s recent blogpost, “An A-Z List of New Age Practices to Avoid, And Why” proceeds to tell us why everything from Harry Potter to Yoga are evil and anti-Christian. Well, that blogpost wasn’t about to go unanswered and Warlock Christian Day decided to rebut  her alphabetical proclamations with his own blogpost, “A Former New-Ager Turned Fundie Christian Wackjob To Avoid, And Why”. It’s always a pleasure to read good writers debate each other, especially when we’re talking about magic and religion. Sometimes it’s just fun to argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. And when you get through both articles, it seems like the only thing that these two can agree on is that faeries are dangerous. And I think that’s something even Ozzy can agree with!  Also, in this episode we wanted to follow up a little bit on last episode’s conversation about the guy that ran through the gates at the Nevada National Security Site (the former Nevada Nuclear Test Site). To me it seemed that it was unthinkable to roll through the security gates at a military facility because you’re just going to be killed onsite, but it sounds like it happens a lot more than we think (this one was just reported by the news.) One of our Patreon members (and frequent idea contributors!), author C.E. Martin let us know in an email exactly how and why these security breaches happen more often than we think, here’s what he wrote: 1. Someone who wants to do mischief. I once hear a story of a base in where the Swords to Plowshares group cut through the fence and stormed onto an alert area, some maniac running toward a B-5 with a sledge hammer. He actually reached the plane and managed to get several swings in on it. The guard in a tower watching over these alert-ready, engines-running, nuclear laden bombers had fallen asleep. Thankfully, the guards on foot saw it and stopped the hippy terrorist before too much damage was done (to the plane–the intruder did not fare very well, surviving the beating they took, but just barely).2. Someone who wants to protest. Shortly after Desert Storm, my base in Germany, Rhein Main (Frankfurt) was the central air hub for anything going from the eastern US to the Gulf. We had heightened security and a regular assortment of protestors at our gates. One night, when I was actually off duty (after months of no days off, we finally got to work a 6-and-1 as everything came back from the Gulf). Again, it was some group like Swords and Plowshares (or maybe it was them again) cut through the fence and brought an entrourage onto the base–including a camel! They were stopped relatively quickly just inside the fence. They were also fortunate enough not to have gotten roughed up too bad, I was told. (I was sure mad I missed this crazy occurrence). 3. Mistaken travel. In California, (McClellan AFB, in Sacramento) we were at the end of a major roadway. People often got turned around and ended up at that gate asking for directions. This was the back side of the base–the opposite side being near the highway. People were trying to get to that highway, but the base was in the way. One night, a drunk driver drove through the fence, dodging the gateshack he almost ran over. He ended up on the runway (which he later confessed he thought was the highway) and almost struck the Sacramento Sheriff’s helicopter that had been coming in to refuel for patrol (they rented hangar space from the USAF). I was the closest patrol and got to drive hellbent for leather (something we NEVER were supposed to do) past airplanes and hangars and out onto the runway to get to this guy. With the day-time-like helicopter light’s assistance, i found the truck crashed into a huge drainage ditch at the far end of the runway, and snagged the perp, who had a partially-consumed case of beer in his truck with him. There’s more to that story about toxic waste, me ruining a pair of boots, and almost breaking the guy’s wrists, but I’ll save it for another time…4. Refusal to follow orders. Anyone coming onto a military base is subject to search and seizure. Your constitutional rights are suspended when it comes to that. This is to prevent bombs and what not from coming on and damaging resources. Occasionally, someone doesn’t want to comply with a vehicle search (they were picked at random when I was in). In my case, again, back in Germany, an Army sergeant decided he wasn’t going to comply and started to race forward. I jumped in front of his car and put my hand on my gun (he later claimed i drew my pistol, but I don’t think I did). He turned the car around and sped away. This was a back gate on the base, leading directly into the housing area. I called it in and patrols went searching for him… and found him very quick. In his haste to escape, he had lost control of his fancy short-dick sports car and crashed it into a guard rail, doing a considerable amount of damage. He was brought back onto the base, I confirmed his identity and, long story short, he was dishonorably discharged for the whole incident (I think he was also driving drunk or something–can’t recall that part). Now, while these are just four stories, I assure you, running the gate, while not a “regular” occurrence, is common enough not to be unheard of. During Desert Storm, back in Germany again, we anticipated this problem to the point that at both the main gate and Crash Shortdick’s base housing gate, we had two special patrols parked and ready: Ram-1 and Ram-2. Ram-1 was an armored car, Ram:2 was a regular Humvee. The role of the person sitting in these vehicles, engines running for 12 hour shifts (minus a brief swap out for refueling), was to RAM any vehicle running the gate, to prevent them from reaching anywhere on base. Side note, when the air war kicked off in January 1991, I was actually manning Ram-1 at the main gate. Several of the wives of guys in our unit, who regularly helped bring everyone sandwiches and snacks and stuff while we were on duty, went out and delivered the news that the air war had started. C.E. Martin, author, USAF vet, and former criminal investigator Quick hits for other things we mention in the podcast: New York Times, “The Meaning of Tony Romo, Super Bowl Psychic”Hypnodog hypnotizes Drew Barrymore on CBS’World’s Best For the song this episode, we were thinking about how being a ghost wouldn’t be that great. You’re always stuck hanging around the places that you used to live and work, or worse were killed. After all, Ted Bundy isn’t haunting the sites of his infamous murders, he’s haunting the place where he himself was executed for his crimes. Or maybe now he’s going to haunt Zak Bagans’ museum, roaming around a bunch of musty artifacts and interacting with tourists looking to “touch” some piece of morbid history. Movies and TV shows always treat immortality as a curse more than a blessing, so would it be any fun to be a ghost if you were just an observer? That’s the idea behind this week’s track, “I Don’t Wanna Be A Ghost”. I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall  and I’ll wait for you to call my name I used to want to come back as a spirit, and be in some romantic tragedy  I’d be Patrick Swazye and you would be my sweet Demi. If we can’t be together who wants to live forever  when you’re just looking right through me, If I will always be lonely there’s no point in eternity and I can see you looking right through me I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall  and I’ll wait for you to call my name I could walk the earth as a phantom and be an orb in your phone photos Scaring all the people who never came to my gravestone What’s the point of a soul if there’s no one to make you whole A spectral spectator that’s bored with immortality.   If we can’t be together who wants to live forever  when you’re just looking right through me, If I will always be lonely there’s no point in eternity and I can see you looking right through me I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall  and I’ll wait for you to call my name The post 234 – Serial Killers Are Not Hot: The Ghost of Ted Bundy appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F02%2F05%2F234-serial-killers-are-not-hot-the-ghost-of-ted-bundy%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> After being dead for almost three decades, serial killer Ted Bundy is back in the news. Of course, true crime TV shows are in big time since Making A Murderer set the world on fire three years ago, so Netflix is continuing the trend with their come series, Confessions of a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes. It’s the first thing you see when you open Netflix and people are reacting to it. Now Ted Bundy was a charismatic guy in real life and he’s been played by Hollywood heartthrob Mark Harmon and is there’s currently a movie where he’s going to be played by former teen idol, Zac Efron. So many people have been commenting about how good-looking this brutal serial killer/rapist/necrophiliac was, that Netflix this week had to issue a statement letting people know that <a href="https://www.theringer.com/tv/2019/1/31/18205088/why-do-people-think-ted-bundy-is-hot" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">talking about how Ted Bundy is attractive is not really that cool.</a> <blockquote>I've seen a lot of talk about Ted Bundy’s alleged hotness and would like to gently remind everyone that there are literally THOUSANDS of hot men on the service — almost all of whom are not convicted serial murderers— Netflix (@netflix) <a href="https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1089950741064601600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">January 28, 2019</a></blockquote> So, Ted is back in the news, but that’s not the only reason. Jumping in on the trend, <a href="https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/zak-bagans-purchases-ted-bundys-glasses-for-las-vegas-museum-1588263/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ghost Adventures</a><a href="https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/zak-bagans-purchases-ted-bundys-glasses-for-las-vegas-museum-1588263/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a><a href="https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/zak-bagans-purchases-ted-bundys-glasses-for-las-vegas-museum-1588263/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a><a href="https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/zak-bagans-purchases-ted-bundys-glasses-for-las-vegas-museum-1588263/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">star Zak Bagans just bought Ted Bundy’s glasses for $50,000 </a>so that he can display them in his haunted museum in Las Vegas. That’s almost twice what he paid for the Demon House in Gary, Indiana. Now there’s no guarantee that Ted Bundy actually wore the glasses, but they did find them in a car that he had stolen, so chances are that they’re his. Is it a cursed object? Well, the jury is still out, but people have been seeing <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201210/ted-bundys-ghost" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ted Bundy’s ghost since shortly after he was executed</a>. In fact, the story goes that so many guards were seeing his ghost in the electric chair that they refused to enter the execution room alone. Other guards say that he was taunting them from beyond the grave, saying things like “Well, I beat you guys, didn’t I?” Messed up. Reminds me of Horace Pinker from Wes Craven’s criminally underrated Shocker, where the killer is about to be electrocuted and they ask him, “Does the prisoner have any final words?” and he replies, “Yeah, no more Mr. Nice Guy.” <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e1P3vo-Lx4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Megadeth version of “No More Mr. Nice Guy” on the Shocker soundtrack is Epic as well!</a> My sister Allison closed out the episode by also brings out an interesting story she heard this week about how <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Doreen_Virtue" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">former New Age guru Doreen Virtue</a> turned around and renounced her former Pagan ways and became a Born Again Christian. She says that all the stuff she used to believe in was actually a pathway to The Devil and Doreen’s recent blogpost, <a href="http://doreenvirtue.com/2019/01/21/an-a-z-list-of-new-age-practices-to-avoid-and-why/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“An A-Z List of New Age Practices to Avoid, And Why”</a> proceeds to tell us why everything from Harry Potter to Yoga are evil and anti-Christian. Well, that blogpost wasn’t about to go unanswered and Warlock Christian Day decided to rebut her alphabetical proclamations with his own blogpost, <a href="https://www.christianday.com/uncategorized/a-formerly-new-ager-turned-fundie-christian-wack-job-to-avoid-and-why/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“A Former New-Ager Turned Fundie Christian Wackjob To Avoid, And Why”.</a> It’s always a pleasure to read good writers debate each other, especially when we’re talking about magic and religion. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sometimes it’s just fun to argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.</a> And when you get through both articles, it seems like the only thing that these two can agree on is that faeries are dangerous. And I think that’s something even Ozzy can agree with! Also, in this episode we wanted to follow up a little bit on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/233" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">last episode’s conversation about the guy that ran through the gates at the Nevada National Security Site (the former Nevada Nuclear Test Site)</a>. To me it seemed that it was unthinkable to roll through the security gates at a military facility because you’re just going to be killed onsite, but it sounds like it happens a lot more than we think (this one was just reported by the news.) One of our Patreon members (and frequent idea contributors!), author C.E. Martin let us know in an email exactly how and why these security breaches happen more often than we think, here’s what he wrote: <blockquote>1. Someone who wants to do mischief. I once hear a story of a base in where the Swords to Plowshares group cut through the fence and stormed onto an alert area, some maniac running toward a B-5 with a sledge hammer. He actually reached the plane and managed to get several swings in on it. The guard in a tower watching over these alert-ready, engines-running, nuclear laden bombers had fallen asleep. Thankfully, the guards on foot saw it and stopped the hippy terrorist before too much damage was done (to the plane–the intruder did not fare very well, surviving the beating they took, but just barely).2. Someone who wants to protest. Shortly after Desert Storm, my base in Germany, Rhein Main (Frankfurt) was the central air hub for anything going from the eastern US to the Gulf. We had heightened security and a regular assortment of protestors at our gates. One night, when I was actually off duty (after months of no days off, we finally got to work a 6-and-1 as everything came back from the Gulf). Again, it was some group like Swords and Plowshares (or maybe it was them again) cut through the fence and brought an entrourage onto the base–including a camel! They were stopped relatively quickly just inside the fence. They were also fortunate enough not to have gotten roughed up too bad, I was told. (I was sure mad I missed this crazy occurrence). 3. Mistaken travel. In California, (McClellan AFB, in Sacramento) we were at the end of a major roadway. People often got turned around and ended up at that gate asking for directions. This was the back side of the base–the opposite side being near the highway. People were trying to get to that highway, but the base was in the way. One night, a drunk driver drove through the fence, dodging the gateshack he almost ran over. He ended up on the runway (which he later confessed he thought was the highway) and almost struck the Sacramento Sheriff’s helicopter that had been coming in to refuel for patrol (they rented hangar space from the USAF). I was the closest patrol and got to drive hellbent for leather (something we NEVER were supposed to do) past airplanes and hangars and out onto the runway to get to this guy. With the day-time-like helicopter light’s assistance, i found the truck crashed into a huge drainage ditch at the far end of the runway, and snagged the perp, who had a partially-consumed case of beer in his truck with him. There’s more to that story about toxic waste, me ruining a pair of boots, and almost breaking the guy’s wrists, but I’ll save it for another time…4. Refusal to follow orders. Anyone coming onto a military base is subject to search and seizure. Your constitutional rights are suspended when it comes to that. This is to prevent bombs and what not from coming on and damaging resources. Occasionally, someone doesn’t want to comply with a vehicle search (they were picked at random when I was in). In my case, again, back in Germany, an Army sergeant decided he wasn’t going to comply and started to race forward. I jumped in front of his car and put my hand on my gun (he later claimed i drew my pistol, but I don’t think I did). He turned the car around and sped away. This was a back gate on the base, leading directly into the housing area. I called it in and patrols went searching for him… and found him very quick. In his haste to escape, he had lost control of his fancy short-dick sports car and crashed it into a guard rail, doing a considerable amount of damage. He was brought back onto the base, I confirmed his identity and, long story short, he was dishonorably discharged for the whole incident (I think he was also driving drunk or something–can’t recall that part). Now, while these are just four stories, I assure you, running the gate, while not a “regular” occurrence, is common enough not to be unheard of. During Desert Storm, back in Germany again, we anticipated this problem to the point that at both the main gate and Crash Shortdick’s base housing gate, we had two special patrols parked and ready: Ram-1 and Ram-2. Ram-1 was an armored car, Ram:2 was a regular Humvee. The role of the person sitting in these vehicles, engines running for 12 hour shifts (minus a brief swap out for refueling), was to RAM any vehicle running the gate, to prevent them from reaching anywhere on base. Side note, when the air war kicked off in January 1991, I was actually manning Ram-1 at the main gate. Several of the wives of guys in our unit, who regularly helped bring everyone sandwiches and snacks and stuff while we were on duty, went out and delivered the news that the air war had started. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/C.E.-Martin/e/B0089W99VC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">C.E. Martin, author, USAF vet, and former criminal investigator</a></blockquote> Quick hits for other things we mention in the podcast: <ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/opinion/sunday/super-bowl-2019-tony-romo.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New York Times,</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/opinion/sunday/super-bowl-2019-tony-romo.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> “The Meaning of Tony Romo, Super Bowl Psychic”</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/the-worlds-best/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hypnodog hypnotizes Drew Barrymore on CBS’</a>World’s Best</li></ul> For the song this episode, we were thinking about how being a ghost wouldn’t be that great. You’re always stuck hanging around the places that you used to live and work, or worse were killed. After all, Ted Bundy isn’t haunting the sites of his infamous murders, he’s haunting the place where he himself was executed for his crimes. Or maybe now he’s going to haunt Zak Bagans’ museum, roaming around a bunch of musty artifacts and interacting with tourists looking to “touch” some piece of morbid history. Movies and TV shows always treat immortality as a curse more than a blessing, so would it be any fun to be a ghost if you were just an observer? That’s the idea behind this week’s track, “I Don’t Wanna Be A Ghost”. I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall and I’ll wait for you to call my name I used to want to come back as a spirit, and be in some romantic tragedy I’d be Patrick Swazye and you would be my sweet Demi. If we can’t be together who wants to live forever when you’re just looking right through me, If I will always be lonely there’s no point in eternity and I can see you looking right through me I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall and I’ll wait for you to call my name I could walk the earth as a phantom and be an orb in your phone photos Scaring all the people who never came to my gravestone What’s the point of a soul if there’s no one to make you whole A spectral spectator that’s bored with immortality. If we can’t be together who wants to live forever when you’re just looking right through me, If I will always be lonely there’s no point in eternity and I can see you looking right through me I don’t want to be a ghost I just want to be a man I don’t want to hear my friends When I cannot talk to them I’ll be right behind the wall and I’ll wait for you to call my name The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/02/05/234-serial-killers-are-not-hot-the-ghost-of-ted-bundy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">234 – Serial Killers Are Not Hot: The Ghost of Ted Bundy</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

234 – Serial Killers Are Not Hot: The Ghost of Ted Bundy

Tweet  And I would drive 500 miles and I would drive 500 more…    So, we hopped in the Sunspot van and Wendy, Scott from WhatsYourGhostStory.com, and I drove a thousand miles this weekend to the Shooting Star Casino in Mahnomen, Minnesota for their 2018 Paracon. It was a fun-filled three days where we made dozens of new friends, talked about hundreds of paranormal experiences, and even got to play some Blackjack (Wendy has a system, in case you were wondering!)    Mike, Wendy, and Scott manning the booth!    Now, we’ve had vendor tables at several different paranormal conventions before and it is hard to stand out. You’re competing with celebrities (we had two lovely actresses right next to us and Chip frickin’ Coffey right across the way), paranormal presentations, a bar open all day, and gambling. How are we going to get people’s attention with our little podcast? Well, we decided to create a paranormal quest where people could enter to win a sweet prize package of ghost tour tickets, Sunspot CDs, books on Chicago ghost stories, and a haunted Gingerbread house.    Chuck Woolery, eat your heart out!    So, how were we going to get everyone to come on by and get weird with us? Well, we tried to do a little “paranormal quest” game where we had three sections: A area about my haunted history tour company, American Ghost Walks where I asked them a question about Minneapolis because we have a tour thereA See You On The Other Side-centered section where we polled them on their favorite paranormal topicA WhatsYourGhostStory.com ghost confessional where we asked them if they’ve ever seen a ghost    The eyeball test tubes we used to conduct our “favorite paranormal topic” poll    Once people answered our questions, then we entered them into the drawing! So, what did we discover about the Paracon attendees? “Purple Rain” is their favorite Prince song by a huge marginThere’s not as many Vikings fans as you’d think, most of them couldn’t even name a playerGhosts are the most popular topic, followed by demons, then UFOs (I know, right? Unexpected.). Cryptids came in last, which broke Bigfoot’s heart.More than three-quarters of the people we met had a personal ghostly encounter and a majority of them were about their family and loved ones. That was really nice. They were mainly positive and comforting experiences.     Daniel, the winner of the paranormal prize pack! He shared several of his paranormal experiences with us as well…      Here’s a compilation of ghost stories you guys told at our booth!    So, since ghosts were the topic that most people were interested in, we decided to interview a few of the presenters  about some of their most memorable ghostly encounters. In this episode, we have personal ghost stories from: Erin Ryder from Destination Truth and Chasing UFOsJael De Pardo from  Destination Truth and The Unexplained Author on everything from The Slenderman to Nessie, Nick RedfernActress and scream queen, Erin Marie Hogan Darkness Radio‘s Dave Schrader interviewing Jael De Pardo and Erin Ryder from Destination Truth    Mike talking with cryptozoology author, Nick Redfern    Scott and Mike talking to actress, Erin Marie Hogan    For the song this week, we used the name of the place, the Shooting Star Casino, as the initial inspiration. Time flies like a shooting star and as John Lennon said on Double Fantasy: Before you cross the street take my hand. Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans.John Lennon, “Beautiful Boy” When we’re young and we think about the future, there’s a sense of wonder. I saw a lot of that this weekend. There were psychics making predictions and mediums who say they can talk to the dead. We dream about what might happen and wish for something better. Some nights seem like they’ll last forever, but they don’t, before we know it the future is here, whether we’re ready or not and the important part is to try and not lose that sense of wonder that makes the whole thing worthwhile. That’s the idea behind this quick rock track, “Best-Laid Plans”. Staring at the sky til dawn laid out in front of your piece of crap car this getaway could not go wrong so we made a wish on every single star And all those summer nights that weren’t meant to last like a shooting star they just burn so fast Yeah, we ran away  but the best-laid plans are fantasies So if you make that wish, I will believe. And then we tried to tell the  future We looked at our palms and studied all the lines When every kiss was an adventure and we laughed at all the hearts we’d leave behind And all those summer nights that weren’t meant to last like a shooting star they just burn so fast Yeah, we ran away  but the best-laid plans are fantasies So if you make that wish, I will believe.     The post 218 – Ghosts of the Shooting Star – Stories from Minnesota ParaCon 2018 appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F10%2F17%2F218-ghosts-of-the-shooting-star-stories-from-minnesota-paracon-2018%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> And I would drive 500 miles and I would drive 500 more… So, we hopped in the Sunspot van and Wendy, Scott from <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a>, and I drove a thousand miles this weekend to the Shooting Star Casino in Mahnomen, Minnesota for their 2018 Paracon. It was a fun-filled three days where we made dozens of new friends, talked about hundreds of paranormal experiences, and even got to play some Blackjack (Wendy has a system, in case you were wondering!) Mike, Wendy, and Scott manning the booth! Now, we’ve had vendor tables at several different paranormal conventions before and it is hard to stand out. You’re competing with celebrities (we had two lovely actresses right next to us and Chip frickin’ Coffey right across the way), paranormal presentations, a bar open all day, and gambling. How are we going to get people’s attention with our little podcast? Well, we decided to create a paranormal quest where people could enter to win a sweet prize package of ghost tour tickets, Sunspot CDs, books on Chicago ghost stories, and a haunted Gingerbread house. Chuck Woolery, eat your heart out! So, how were we going to get everyone to come on by and get weird with us? Well, we tried to do a little “paranormal quest” game where we had three sections: <ul><li>A area about my <a href="http://www.americanghostwalks.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">haunted history tour company, American Ghost Walks</a> where I asked them a question about Minneapolis because we have a <a href="http://www.minneapolisghosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tour there</a></li><li>A See You On The Other Side-centered section where we polled them on their favorite paranormal topic</li><li>A <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> ghost confessional where we asked them if they’ve ever seen a ghost</li></ul> The eyeball test tubes we used to conduct our “favorite paranormal topic” poll Once people answered our questions, then we entered them into the drawing! So, what did we discover about the Paracon attendees? <ul><li>“Purple Rain” is their favorite Prince song by a huge margin</li><li>There’s not as many Vikings fans as you’d think, most of them couldn’t even name a player</li><li>Ghosts are the most popular topic, followed by demons, then UFOs (I know, right? Unexpected.). Cryptids came in last, which broke Bigfoot’s heart.</li><li>More than three-quarters of the people we met had a personal ghostly encounter and a majority of them were about their family and loved ones. That was really nice. They were mainly positive and comforting experiences.  </li></ul> Daniel, the winner of the paranormal prize pack! He shared several of his paranormal experiences with us as well… Here’s a compilation of ghost stories you guys told at our booth! So, since ghosts were the topic that most people were interested in, we decided to interview a few of the presenters  about some of their most memorable ghostly encounters. In this episode, we have personal ghost stories from: <ul><li>Erin Ryder from Destination Truth and <a href="https://www.punkrockandufos.com/blog/2017/4/27/erin-ryder-talks-destination-truth-getting-in-expedition-shape-coachella" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chasing UFOs</a></li><li>Jael De Pardo from  Destination Truth and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5822252/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Unexplained </a></li><li>Author on everything from The Slenderman to Nessie, <a href="http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick Redfern</a></li><li>Actress and scream queen, <a href="https://www.erinmariehogan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Erin Marie Hogan</a></li></ul> Darkness Radio‘s Dave Schrader interviewing Jael De Pardo and Erin Ryder from Destination Truth Mike talking with cryptozoology author, Nick Redfern Scott and Mike talking to actress, Erin Marie Hogan For the song this week, we used the name of the place, the Shooting Star Casino, as the initial inspiration. Time flies like a shooting star and as John Lennon said on Double Fantasy: <blockquote>Before you cross the street take my hand. Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans.John Lennon, “Beautiful Boy”</blockquote> When we’re young and we think about the future, there’s a sense of wonder. I saw a lot of that this weekend. There were psychics making predictions and mediums who say they can talk to the dead. We dream about what might happen and wish for something better. Some nights seem like they’ll last forever, but they don’t, before we know it the future is here, whether we’re ready or not and the important part is to try and not lose that sense of wonder that makes the whole thing worthwhile. That’s the idea behind this quick rock track, “Best-Laid Plans”. Staring at the sky til dawn laid out in front of your piece of crap car this getaway could not go wrong so we made a wish on every single star And all those summer nights that weren’t meant to last like a shooting star they just burn so fast Yeah, we ran away but the best-laid plans are fantasies So if you make that wish, I will believe. And then we tried to tell the future We looked at our palms and studied all the lines When every kiss was an adventure and we laughed at all the hearts we’d leave behind And all those summer nights that weren’t meant to last like a shooting star they just burn so fast Yeah, we ran away but the best-laid plans are fantasies So if you make that wish, I will believe. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/10/17/218-ghosts-of-the-shooting-star-stories-from-minnesota-paracon-2018/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">218 – Ghosts of the Shooting Star – Stories from Minnesota ParaCon 2018</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

218 – Ghosts of the Shooting Star – Stories from Minnesota ParaCon 2018

Tweet This week, there was a plethora of exciting UFO news (well, probably as exciting as we’re going to get until they finally land in our backyard) so we wanted to bring back one of our favorite guests, [Robbie Graham]. Robbie authored the fascinating and insightful book, Silver Screen Saucers as well as editing UFOs: Reframing The Debate, which is one of the most comprehensive looks at the subject of the last decade. Wendy and I talked with Robbie and Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com joins us again for the discussion. Starting out, we had to talk to Robbie about what it was like being on the History Channel juggernaut, Ancient Aliens! He was on the latest episode and he told us what it was like being brought into the study of a millionaire’s home (to make it look a little more intellectual) as well as being remotely directed in London over the Internet from Los Angeles.  But just in the news this week, we had to discuss the new article about former Nevada senator Harry Reid coming out of retirement to lobby for more investigation into military reports of UFOs. Roll Call is not your normal UFO publication, it’s a political blog, so it’s always nice to see something weird in there. But why does Harry Reid care so much and why now? The best quote of the entire article is when he talks about Area 51. “Oh sure, I’ve been to Area 51. I know Area 51. I don’t know if I should say many times, but lots and lots of times. I know Area 51 quite well, I know what they’ve done there,” said Reid. “I don’t know in recent years, of course, but I know what went on there.” What went on there, Harry, for God’s sakes, what went on there? But that brings up a bigger point, the existence of extraterrestrials is in the news more than ever. Since the New York Times article in 2017, aliens have snuck more and more in the news, from the latest fast radio bursts from space to the strange Rama-like space objet Oumuamua. And the go-to guy for astronomer credibility seems to be Harvard Professor, Avi Loeb. Now this guy is no slouch when it comes to academic credentials, but he sure is talking about aliens a lot. Is that because they’re getting us ready for disclosure?!  More likely, they’re just in it for the clicks. Those stories get shared more than any other and in a quickly shrinking media landscape, views mean money. But another story that came out this week that I was particularly interested in was the official pronouncement this last week that conspiracy theorist Max Spiers who passed away in Poland mysteriously in 2016, actually died of a drug overdose. Max Spiers It was a tragic end for a young guy (well, kinda young, I would be less than a month older than him, so it hits home for me) and the salacious news stories were filled with tales of cryptic messages sent to his mother and girlfriend in the UK as well as descriptions of him vomiting black bile before expiring. It didn’t help that his friends were telling people that extraterrestrials were mind controlling his behavior. I’m all for a good conspiracy theory and I fully understand that our government isn’t afraid to assassinate people but was a guy who talked about Nazi bases on the moon really getting too close to the truth? Fascinatingly, that leads to a story from Robbie about how he once was paranoid about his phones being bugged and that he might have been being watched by the CIA while he was investigating another mysterious death, that of Hollywood screenwriter, Gary Devore. First of all, Devore wrote Timecop, the greatest of all Jean-Claude Van Damme films, so we all owe him at least a tiny bit of gratitude for that.  But in the mid-90s, Devore was working on a screenplay about the 1989 U.S. Invasion of Panama. That’s the one that was ordered by former CIA director, George H.W. Bush to capture former CIA operative Manuel Noriega.  My favorite part of the whole invasion (if one can have a favorite part of something that killed 23 US soldiers, 150 Panamanian soldiers, and over 500 Panamanian civilians) is that the U.S. military famously played “We’re Not Gonna Take It” by Twisted Sister at an earsplitting volume outside the Vatican Embassy, where Noriega had holed up after being driven from the Capitol.  Could Dee Snider have been in the CIA as well? While Devore disappeared in 1997, he was on his way to deliver a copy of his latest script, the one about the “real reason” for the  Panama invasion. He never made it and a year later they found his Ford Explorer at the bottom of a California aqueduct. His body was there, but strangely his hands and the script were both missing. Robbie became obsessed with the case and along with his colleague, Dr. Matthew Alford, they authored an article in The Guardian newspaper talking about Hollywood and the CIA and specifically talking about Gary Devore. Was Robbie getting too close to the truth? Well, in 2012, CIA operative Chase Brandon, who knew Devore well  because he was the CIA liaison to Hollywood, wrote a book called The Cryptos Conundrum. It’s supposedly fiction, but he makes a lot of claims (particularly about Roswell) and in one of the  “fictional scenarios” makes up an investigative journalist who starts exposing too many of the CIA’s plans and then mysteriously suffers a fatal heart attack. The name of this fictional journalist? Robert Graham. THAT’S $%^ING NUTS. You can read the passages right here in the Google Book version of The Cryptos Conundrum. It’s not really very subtle. Alford went on to make a documentary about the case in 2014 called The Writer With No Hands.  And speaking of Hollywood, Scott’s favorite story this week is the upcoming 61st anniversary of the Black Dahlia murder, where poor Elizabeth Short was found naked, mutilated and cut in half. It became one of Tinseltown’s most famous and shocking unsolved cases. Los Angeles homicide detective Steve Hodel believes that the killer was his own father(!), Dr. George Hodel, and the new TNT series I Am The Night, will be based on Hodel’s theories. Steve Hodel has also implied that his father was the Zodiac Killer. Happy Father’s Day, yikes!  For this week’s song, we were thinking about the tragedy of Max Spiers’ death and also Robbie’s own story of possibly being surveilled by an intelligence agency while investigating a cover-up. Whether or not you believe in conspiracy theories, from Q Anon to secret supersoldiers, our intelligence agencies wield a scary amount of unchecked power. While a majority of their actions might be in the service of protecting us, is the truth worth getting in their crosshairs?  You wear the truth like a tattoo You look over your shoulder is there someone right behind you? Walking too close to the Left Hand Path Living with a target on your back. Whispers in the night are beckoning, to a black magic reckoning, hidden hands are pulling strings, and watching everything. Steer clear of the dangerous kind a death warrant has been signed. Don’t fall in love with The Man Who Knew Too Much. Just like in Catch-22 Just cuz you’re paranoid don’t mean they’re not out for you. Just what will you give up for the truth? Even if it ends up killing you. Whispers in the night are beckoning, to a black magic reckoning, hidden hands are pulling strings, and watching everything. Steer clear of the dangerous kind a death warrant has been signed. Don’t fall in love with The Man Who Knew Too Much. The post 231 – The Man Who Knew Too Much: UFOs, Conspiracies, and Murder appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F01%2F15%2F231-the-man-who-knew-too-much-ufos-conspiracies-and-murder%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> This week, there was a plethora of exciting UFO news (well, probably as exciting as we’re going to get until they finally land in our backyard) so we wanted to bring back one of our favorite guests, [<a href="http://www.robbiegraham.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Robbie Graham</a>]. Robbie authored the fascinating and insightful book, <a href="https://amzn.to/2RRYRxk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Silver Screen Saucers</a> as well as editing <a href="https://amzn.to/2sqAj09" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">UFOs: Reframing The Debate</a>, which is one of the most comprehensive looks at the subject of the last decade. Wendy and I talked with Robbie and Scott Markus from <a href="http://WhatsYourGhostStory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> joins us again for the discussion. Starting out, we had to talk to Robbie about what it was like being on the History Channel juggernaut, Ancient Aliens! He was on the latest episode and he told us what it was like being brought into the study of a millionaire’s home (to make it look a little more intellectual) as well as being remotely directed in London over the Internet from Los Angeles. <a href="https://9p2edc.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/robbiegrahamancientaliens.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> But just in the news this week, we had to discuss the new article about <a href="https://www.rollcall.com/news/hoh/harry-reid-lobbying-ufo-research-reporting" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">former Nevada senator Harry Reid coming out of retirement to lobby for more investigation into military reports of UFOs</a>. Roll Call is not your normal UFO publication, it’s a political blog, so it’s always nice to see something weird in there. But why does Harry Reid care so much and why now? The best quote of the entire article is when he talks about Area 51. <blockquote>“Oh sure, I’ve been to Area 51. I know Area 51. I don’t know if I should say many times, but lots and lots of times. I know Area 51 quite well, I know what they’ve done there,” said Reid. “I don’t know in recent years, of course, but I know what went on there.”</blockquote> What went on there, Harry, for God’s sakes, what went on there? But that brings up a bigger point, the existence of extraterrestrials is in the news more than ever. Since the <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2017/12/27/176-new-york-times-ufo-bombshell-debriefing-john-e-l-tenney/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New York Times article in 2017</a>, aliens have snuck more and more in the news, from the <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jan/09/repeating-fast-radio-bursts-from-deep-space-could-be-aliens" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">latest fast radio bursts from space </a>to the strange <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-14/harvard-astronomer-defends-oumuamua-alien-theory/10713210" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rama-like space objet Oumuamua</a>. And the go-to guy for astronomer credibility seems to be <a href="https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harvard Professor, Avi Loeb.</a> Now this guy is no slouch when it comes to academic credentials, but he sure is talking about aliens a lot. Is that because they’re getting us ready for disclosure?! More likely, they’re just in it for the clicks. Those stories get shared more than any other and in a <a href="https://www.axios.com/newsrooms-are-shrinking-b2d147c3-abdf-4d4c-b2fd-b3dc2675716c.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">quickly shrinking media landscape</a>, views mean money. But another story that came out this week that I was particularly interested in was the official pronouncement this last week that <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/max-spiers-conspiracy-theory-poland-xanax-overdose-inquest-monika-duvall-vanessa-bates-internet-ufo-a8716446.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspiracy theorist Max Spiers who passed away in Poland mysteriously in 2016, actually died of a drug overdose</a>. Max Spiers It was a tragic end for a young guy (well, kinda young, I would be less than a month older than him, so it hits home for me) and the salacious news stories were filled with tales of cryptic messages sent to his mother and girlfriend in the UK as well as descriptions of him vomiting black bile before expiring. It didn’t help that his friends were <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/max-spiers-death-of-british-ufo-hunter-will-simply-not-be-accepted-by-the-conspiracy-theory-community_uk_5c3740dfe4b05cb31c3fdc1e" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">telling people that extraterrestrials were mind controlling his behavior</a>. I’m all for a good conspiracy theory and I fully understand that <a href="https://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/21051/cia-and-long-history-assassinations" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">our government isn’t afraid to assassinate people</a> but was a guy who talked about <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adE3SE6Sa-k" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nazi bases on the moon</a> really getting too close to the truth? Fascinatingly, that leads to a story from Robbie about how he once was paranoid about his phones being bugged and that he might have been being watched by the CIA while he was investigating another <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_DeVore" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mysterious death, that of Hollywood screenwriter, Gary Devore</a>. First of all, Devore wrote Timecop, the greatest of all Jean-Claude Van Damme films, so we all owe him at least a tiny bit of gratitude for that. But in the mid-90s, Devore was working on a screenplay about the 1989 U.S. Invasion of Panama. That’s the one that was ordered by former CIA director, George H.W. Bush to capture former <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-panama-noriega-obituary/panamas-noriega-cia-spy-turned-drug-running-dictator-idUSKBN18Q0NW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CIA operative Manuel Noriega</a>.  My favorite part of the whole invasion (if one can have a favorite part of something that killed 23 US soldiers, 150 Panamanian soldiers, and over 500 Panamanian civilians) is that the U.S. military famously played “We’re Not Gonna Take It” by Twisted Sister at an earsplitting volume outside the Vatican Embassy, where Noriega had holed up after being driven from the Capitol. Could Dee Snider have been in the CIA as well? While Devore disappeared in 1997, he was on his way to deliver a copy of his latest script, the one about the “real reason” for the  Panama invasion. He never made it and a year later they found his Ford Explorer at the bottom of a California aqueduct. His body was there, but strangely his hands and the script were both missing. Robbie became obsessed with the case and along with his colleague, Dr. Matthew Alford, they authored an article in <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/nov/14/thriller-ridley-scott" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Guardian newspaper talking about Hollywood and the CIA and specifically talking about Gary Devore. </a>Was Robbie getting too close to the truth? Well, in 2012, CIA operative Chase Brandon, who knew Devore well  because he was the CIA liaison to Hollywood, wrote a book called The Cryptos Conundrum. It’s supposedly fiction, but he makes a lot of claims (particularly about Roswell) and in one of the  “fictional scenarios” makes up an investigative journalist who starts exposing too many of the CIA’s plans and then mysteriously suffers a fatal heart attack. The name of this fictional journalist? Robert Graham. THAT’S $%^ING NUTS. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=iMmf1b4MHjUC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&amp;q=graham&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">You can read the passages right here in the Google Book version of </a>The Cryptos Conundrum. It’s not really very subtle. Alford went on to make a documentary about the case in 2014 called The Writer With No Hands. And speaking of Hollywood, Scott’s favorite story this week is the upcoming 61st anniversary of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahlia" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Black Dahlia murder</a>, where poor Elizabeth Short was found naked, mutilated and cut in half. It became one of Tinseltown’s most famous and shocking unsolved cases. Los Angeles homicide detective Steve Hodel believes that the killer was his own father(!), <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hill_Hodel" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. George Hodel,</a> and the new TNT series I Am The Night, will be based on Hodel’s theories. Steve Hodel has also implied that his father was the Zodiac Killer. Happy Father’s Day, yikes! For this week’s song, we were thinking about the tragedy of Max Spiers’ death and also Robbie’s own story of possibly being surveilled by an intelligence agency while investigating a cover-up. Whether or not you believe in conspiracy theories, from Q Anon to secret supersoldiers, <a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2012/05/the-cias-unchecked-quasi-military-role-076169" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">our intelligence agencies wield a scary amount of unchecked power</a>. While a majority of their actions might be in the service of protecting us, <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP84-00499R001000080001-7.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">is the truth worth getting in their crosshairs</a>? You wear the truth like a tattoo You look over your shoulder is there someone right behind you? Walking too close to the Left Hand Path Living with a target on your back. Whispers in the night are beckoning, to a black magic reckoning, hidden hands are pulling strings, and watching everything. Steer clear of the dangerous kind a death warrant has been signed. Don’t fall in love with The Man Who Knew Too Much. Just like in Catch-22 Just cuz you’re paranoid don’t mean they’re not out for you. Just what will you give up for the truth? Even if it ends up killing you. Whispers in the night are beckoning, to a black magic reckoning, hidden hands are pulling strings, and watching everything. Steer clear of the dangerous kind a death warrant has been signed. Don’t fall in love with The Man Who Knew Too Much. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/01/15/231-the-man-who-knew-too-much-ufos-conspiracies-and-murder/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">231 – The Man Who Knew Too Much: UFOs, Conspiracies, and Murder</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

231 – The Man Who Knew Too Much: UFOs, Conspiracies, and Murder

Jimmy Hoffa

Tweet July 30th, 1975. Former Teamsters Union President James R. Hoffa is scheduled for a 2PM meeting at the Machus Red Fox Restaurant in Bloomfield Township, Michigan with reported Mafia members,  Anthony Provenzano and Anthony Giacalone. At 2:15pm he calls his wife and expresses his annoyance that no one is there.  At 3:27pm, he calls his friend Louis Linteau and says he was stood up. After that, no one hears from him again.     Jimmy Hoffa    In a mystery that has never officially been solved by law enforcement and has been the basis of massive speculation as well as the source of a million late night comedy jokes over the years. Jimmy Hoffa, one of the most well-known figures of all time in organized labor politics, just vanished without a trace.  He wasn’t an angel. Hoffa had already been convicted of fraud and illegal wiretapping and had served several years in prison, and he several of his associates had admitted that they were in the mafia. In order to unify local trucking unions and rise to power, he had to cut deals with organized crime figures who were central to the running of the unions. He was the focus of Robert F. Kennedy’s corruption investigations in the early 1960s. Jimmy Hoffa was surrounded by criminals and eventually he angered the wrong people. But who did he anger and how did he disappear? That’s the mystery. And the story is back in the news because it’s one of the central tales in Martin Scorcese’s new  film, The Irishman, coming out this month. It’s based on the life of Frank Sheeran, a union leader, Hoffa associate, and a hit man for the Bufalino crime family. Sheeran claims to have killed Hoffa in his book, I Heard You Paint Houses (which was the code phrase people used to approach him to perform an assassination.) While that’s one theory of what happened to him, we delve into far-out ones in this episode. Some topics we cover: Jimmy Hoffa and his potential involvement of the assassination of John F. KennedyHoffa’s strange presidential pardon from Richard NixonHoffa’s daughter’s psychic premonition of her father’s deathHow hypnosis was used in searching for Jimmy HoffaA strange alien encounter in 1978 where a man said he heard Jimmy Hoffa’s voiceVarious psychic theories about what happened to himThe blood evidence found that links Frank Sheeran to Hoffa’s death This week’s track, inspired by the idea of vanishing without a trace is called “The Disappeared”. When I say your name There’s no answer on the way I forget you were erased because you were here one day and it’s almost like I imagined It’s a mystery how you disappeared from my history  Oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Exit reality to only remain in my memory oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Just a fantasy a phantom limb that itches me Just a missing piece of meat a sailor lost at sea vanished and abandoned It’s a mystery how you disappeared from my history  Oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Exit reality to only remain in my memory oh It’s like you never existe The post 268 – What Really Happened To Jimmy Hoffa? Psychics, UFOs, and The Irishman appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F10%2F16%2F268-what-really-happened-to-jimmy-hoffa-psychics-ufos-and-the-irishman%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> July 30th, 1975. Former Teamsters Union President James R. Hoffa is scheduled for a 2PM meeting at the Machus Red Fox Restaurant in Bloomfield Township, Michigan with reported Mafia members, Anthony Provenzano and Anthony Giacalone. At 2:15pm he calls his wife and expresses his annoyance that no one is there. At 3:27pm, he calls his friend Louis Linteau and says he was stood up. After that, no one hears from him again. Jimmy Hoffa In a mystery that has never officially been solved by law enforcement and has been the basis of massive speculation as well as the source of a million late night comedy jokes over the years. Jimmy Hoffa, one of the most well-known figures of all time in organized labor politics, just vanished without a trace. He wasn’t an angel. Hoffa had already been convicted of fraud and illegal wiretapping and had served several years in prison, and he several of his associates had admitted that they were in the mafia. In order to unify local trucking unions and rise to power, he had to cut deals with organized crime figures who were central to the running of the unions. He was the focus of Robert F. Kennedy’s corruption investigations in the early 1960s. Jimmy Hoffa was surrounded by criminals and eventually he angered the wrong people. But who did he anger and how did he disappear? That’s the mystery. And the story is back in the news because it’s one of the central tales in Martin Scorcese’s new film, The Irishman, coming out this month. It’s based on the life of Frank Sheeran, a union leader, Hoffa associate, and a hit man for the Bufalino crime family. <a href="https://www.cosanostranews.com/2011/03/sheerans-daughter-my-father-killed.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sheeran claims to have killed Hoffa</a> in his book, <a href="https://amzn.to/32jog5h" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">I Heard You Paint Houses</a> (which was the code phrase people used to approach him to perform an assassination.) While that’s one theory of what happened to him, we delve into far-out ones in this episode. Some topics we cover: <ul><li>Jimmy Hoffa and his potential involvement of the assassination of John F. Kennedy</li><li>Hoffa’s <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2001-04-08-0104080311-story.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">strange presidential pardon from Richard Nixon</a></li><li>Hoffa’s daughter’s psychic premonition of her father’s death</li><li>How h<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1975/08/03/archives/hypnosis-produces-clue-in-hoffa-case-hypnosis-brings-out-clue-in.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ypnosis was used in searching for Jimmy Hoffa</a></li><li>A <a href="https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/ce3/1977-08-06-usa-pelham.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">strange alien encounter in 1978</a> where a man said he heard Jimmy Hoffa’s voice</li><li>Various <a href="https://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=719" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">psychic theories about what happened to him</a></li><li>The <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/jimmy-hoffa-investigation-frank-sheeran-and-the-blood-evidence-we-found-in-the-case" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">blood evidence found that links Frank Sheeran to Hoffa’s death</a></li></ul> This week’s track, inspired by the idea of vanishing without a trace is called “The Disappeared”. When I say your name There’s no answer on the way I forget you were erased because you were here one day and it’s almost like I imagined It’s a mystery how you disappeared from my history Oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Exit reality to only remain in my memory oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Just a fantasy a phantom limb that itches me Just a missing piece of meat a sailor lost at sea vanished and abandoned It’s a mystery how you disappeared from my history Oh It’s like you never existed Oh It’s like you never existed. Exit reality to only remain in my memory oh It’s like you never existe The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/10/16/268-what-really-happened-to-jimmy-hoffa-psychics-ufos-and-the-irishman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">268 – What Really Happened To Jimmy Hoffa? Psychics, UFOs, and The Irishman</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

268 – What Really Happened To Jimmy Hoffa? Psychics, UFOs, and The Irishman

Tweet On October 8th, 1871 the deadliest fire disaster in American history struck Peshtigo, Wisconsin, a small town up north past Green Bay and almost to Upper Michigan. Estimates of casualties ran from over a thousand people to up to twenty-five hundred lost lives. People talk about the firestorm that blew through the town, a “tornado of flames” as they jumped into the river to escape the blaze. Not much of a respite as many then developed hypothermia from the cold water. It was a nightmarish hellscape as fire clouds filled the sky and the heat was so massive that it created its own wind, spreading the inferno further and further. Too many bodies were burned beyond recognition and of the corpses they could find, many couldn’t be identified because the only other people that could identify them were the other bodies. It was an incredible tragedy that was overshadowed in the news by another famous tragedy that happened that night, The Great Chicago Fire.    Mel Kishner’s painting of the people hiding in the river from the flames at Peshtigo    That’s right, two famous fires occurred on the same night. And it wasn’t just those, several towns in Michigan experienced incredible fires that night as well. The entire town of Holland (where I spent a very formative summer before Seventh Grade) burned down as did Port Huron. So, what happened that night that so many fires occurred at once? Well, no cause of the fires has been confirmed for sure, but scientists believe that it was because it was such a dry summer in the Upper Midwest (there was only a quarter of the amount of the average amount of rainfall and Chicago itself only got one inch between the 4th of July and the night of the blaze) the towns were ripe for it. Fires had already been burning near Peshtigo as they were clearing land (the literal slash n’ burn technique) for farming and development that summer, so much so that a lighthouse near Green Bay was on twenty four hours a day that summer. In Chicago, they famously blamed Mrs. O’Leary because the fire started near her farm, and the legend was that she was milking a cow when he kicked over a lantern and started the barn on fire.    Mrs. O’Leary’s cow kicking over the lantern    As early as 1883, Igantius Donnelly, a Minnesota politician proposed in his book, Ragnarok: The Age of Fire And Gravel, suggested that it was a meteor storm as Earth was passing through the remnants of Comet Biela. A comet discovered in 1826 that was supposed to be appear in 1872 and didn’t, leading him to speculate that we passed through the meteor shower of the comet’s debris and those meteors started the fire. Although, since the year before Ignatius also wrote a book on Atlantis that basically formed the modern narrative popularized by Edgar Cayce, his theory is still a little bit controversial to say the least.  But that’s merely one of the weird stories that came out of the 1871 firestorm. From the shadow figures people see on the streets of Peshtigo to the only apparition of the Virgin Mary officially recognized by the Catholic Church. This tragedy might be the most paranormal natural disaster we’ve ever seen. Scott Markus from WhatsYourGhostStory.com and author of Voices From The Chicago Grave joins Wendy and I for this episode as we tell ghost stories of the great fires of 1871. Here’s some of the highlights: Why scientists believe that the Biela’s Comet Theory is hogwashThe tragic ghost of the Chicago Water TowerHow Mrs. O’Leary was officially exonerated by the city of ChicagoHaunted EVPs from the Peshtigo Fire Museum and CemeteryHow the Virgin Mary saved a congregation from the Great Peshtigo Fire  For the song this week, we thought it would be cool to learn one of the most popular songs of 1871. Not only because it’s a fun challenge, but also because we want to play this song and some other contemporary music when we do our own investigation of the sites of the Great 1871 Firestorm. We’d love to stir up an EVP or some ghostly activity by playing a song that the spirits know. So, we decided on a William Shakespeare Hays song that sold over a million copies of sheet music in 1871. That’s like going platinum way before platinum existed! Here is the Sunspot version of “Mollie Darling”. Won’t you tell me Mollie darling, that you love none else but me For I love you Mollie darling,  you are all the world to me Oh tell me darling that you love me, put your little hand in mine       Take my heart sweet Mollie darling, say that you will give me thine. Molly fairest sweetest dearest, look up darling tell me thisDo you love me Mollie darling? Let your answer be a kiss. Stars are smiling Mollie darling, through the mystic veil of nightF  They seem laughing Mollie darling, while fair Luna hides her light   Oh no one listens but the flowers, while they hang their heads in shameThey are modest Mollie darling, when they hear me call your name      Mollie fairest, sweetest, dearest, look up darling tell me thisDo you love me Mollie darling? Let your answer be a kiss. The post 217 – 1871 Firestorm: Ghosts, Comets, and the Virgin Mary appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F10%2F09%2F217-1871-firestorm-ghosts-comets-and-the-virgin-mary%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> On October 8th, 1871 the deadliest fire disaster in American history struck Peshtigo, Wisconsin, a small town up north past Green Bay and almost to Upper Michigan. Estimates of casualties ran from over a thousand people to up to twenty-five hundred lost lives. People talk about the firestorm that blew through the town, a “tornado of flames” as they jumped into the river to escape the blaze. Not much of a respite as many then developed hypothermia from the cold water. It was a nightmarish hellscape as fire clouds filled the sky and the heat was so massive that it created its own wind, spreading the inferno further and further. Too many bodies were burned beyond recognition and of the corpses they could find, many couldn’t be identified because the only other people that could identify them were the other bodies. It was an incredible tragedy that was overshadowed in the news by another famous tragedy that happened that night, The Great Chicago Fire. Mel Kishner’s painting of the people hiding in the river from the flames at Peshtigo That’s right, two famous fires occurred on the same night. And it wasn’t just those, several towns in Michigan experienced incredible fires that night as well. The entire town of Holland (where I spent a very formative summer before Seventh Grade) burned down as did Port Huron. So, what happened that night that so many fires occurred at once? Well, no cause of the fires has been confirmed for sure, but scientists believe that it was because it was such a dry summer in the Upper Midwest (there was only a quarter of the amount of the average amount of rainfall and Chicago itself only got one inch between the 4th of July and the night of the blaze) the towns were ripe for it. Fires had already been burning near Peshtigo as they were clearing land (the literal slash n’ burn technique) for farming and development that summer, so much so that a lighthouse near Green Bay was on twenty four hours a day that summer. In Chicago, they famously blamed Mrs. O’Leary because the fire started near her farm, and the legend was that she was milking a cow when he kicked over a lantern and started the barn on fire. Mrs. O’Leary’s cow kicking over the lantern As early as 1883, Igantius Donnelly, a Minnesota politician proposed in his book, <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Ragnarok.html?id=RmM_AAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ragnarok: The Age of Fire And </a><a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Ragnarok.html?id=RmM_AAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gravel</a>, suggested that it was a meteor storm as Earth was passing through the remnants of Comet Biela. A comet discovered in 1826 that was supposed to be appear in 1872 and didn’t, leading him to speculate that we passed through the meteor shower of the comet’s debris and those meteors started the fire. Although, since the year before Ignatius also wrote a book on <a href="https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/atlantis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Atlantis that basically formed the modern narrative popularized by Edgar Cayce</a>, his theory is still a little bit controversial to say the least.  But that’s merely one of the weird stories that came out of the 1871 firestorm. From the shadow figures people see on the streets of Peshtigo to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/us/24mary.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the only apparition of the Virgin Mary officially recognized by the Catholic Church</a>. This tragedy might be the most paranormal natural disaster we’ve ever seen. Scott Markus from <a href="http://www.whatsyourghoststory.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WhatsYourGhostStory.com</a> and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Voices-Chicago-Grave-Theyre-Calling/dp/1933272198" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Voices From The Chicago Grave</a> joins Wendy and I for this episode as we tell ghost stories of the great fires of 1871. Here’s some of the highlights: <ul><li>Why scientists believe that the <a href="https://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060207biela.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Biela’s Comet Theory</a> is hogwash</li><li>The tragic <a href="http://www.hauntdetective.com/hauntings-legends-folklore/chicago/downtown/95-suicides-at-chicago-water-tower" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ghost of the Chicago Water Tower</a></li><li>How Mrs. O’Leary was officially exonerated by the city of Chicago</li><li><a href="https://mpinetwork.wordpress.com/mpininvestigations/the-great-peshtigo-fire/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Haunted EVPs from the Peshtigo Fire Museum and Cemetery</a></li><li><a href="https://aleteia.org/2016/07/28/the-deadliest-fire-in-u-s-history-was-no-match-for-the-blessed-mother/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How the Virgin Mary saved a congregation from the Great Peshtigo Fire </a></li></ul> For the song this week, we thought it would be cool to learn one of the most popular songs of 1871. Not only because it’s a fun challenge, but also because we want to play this song and some other contemporary music when we do our own investigation of the sites of the Great 1871 Firestorm. We’d love to stir up an EVP or some ghostly activity by playing a song that the spirits know. So, we decided on a William Shakespeare Hays song that sold over a million copies of sheet music in 1871. That’s like going platinum way before platinum existed! Here is the Sunspot version of “Mollie Darling”. Won’t you tell me Mollie darling, that you love none else but me For I love you Mollie darling,  you are all the world to me Oh tell me darling that you love me, put your little hand in mine        Take my heart sweet Mollie darling, say that you will give me thine. Molly fairest sweetest dearest, look up darling tell me this Do you love me Mollie darling? Let your answer be a kiss. Stars are smiling Mollie darling, through the mystic veil of nightF  They seem laughing Mollie darling, while fair Luna hides her light    Oh no one listens but the flowers, while they hang their heads in shame They are modest Mollie darling, when they hear me call your name      Mollie fairest, sweetest, dearest, look up darling tell me this Do you love me Mollie darling? Let your answer be a kiss. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/10/09/217-1871-firestorm-ghosts-comets-and-the-virgin-mary/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">217 – 1871 Firestorm: Ghosts, Comets, and the Virgin Mary</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

217 – 1871 Firestorm: Ghosts, Comets, and the Virgin Mary

Richard Syrett

Tweet Richard Syrett didn’t start off being a weirdo, he was a radio host who stumbled onto a Sunday night talk show in Toronto whose audience shot through the roof when they broached paranormal topics (much like Art Bell and the original Coast to Coast AM did, and now Richard is a frequent guest host of Coast to Coast as well!) But that shift proved auspicious, because Richard Syrett has been tackling the strange and unusual each week on Canadian radio with The Conspiracy Show and that even lead to four seasons of a television program as well on Vision TV.  Richard SyrettBut just because Richard Syrett waited some time in his profession career to start exploring the paranormal, doesn’t mean that he hasn’t felt that cold strange grip of the strange. He was close with with rock n’ roll author R. Gary Patterson who had spent decades exploring musical mysteries and the dark side of rock n’ roll pop culture. Gary was a frequent guest on The Conspiracy Show and Richard and Gary were planning to work together on their program when Gary passed away in 2017. Richard goes into detail on his own strange encounter with what might have been R. Gary Patterson’s ghost in our conversation!  Syrett’s new show is called The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone and you can hear it on Chris Jericho’s Podcast One network. It is a deep dive into some of Rock’s greatest mysteries and you’re bound to hear some conspiracies and strange stories that you’ve never heard before. I’ve been listening to it all week an it’s a lot of fun. In this interview, Allison from Milwaukee Ghosts joins Richard and I in discussing some of the great topics that he’s been covering on The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone:  Was Elvis murdered? How Jim Morrison could have faked his own death Robert Johnson’s deal with the Devil and the curse of the Crossroads  The song this week is called “Rock &amp; Roll Heaven” but it’s not quite as hagiographic as the Righteous Brothers’ 70s’ song of the same name. While the “live fast, die young” aesthetic of the 60s and 70s rock stars certainly contributed to their mythological stature, it’s more sad than anything else. Would you sacrifice decades of your life (even if it’s the old crappy part) to amplify your legacy? Are you good enough to get into “Rock &amp; Roll Heaven”?  When I die will I go to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? Am I good, am I good enough to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? Where the high lasts forever, all the amps go to eleven When I die I wanna go to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. Is there a chart in the skies for all your albums that went gold? Is that your consolation prize because you’ll never grow old? When I die (when I die) will I go (will I go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven) Am I good (am I good), am I good enough (good enough) to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven) Where the high lasts forever, the amps go to eleven (all the amps go to eleven) When I die (when I die) I wanna go (wanna go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. Is there a chart in the skies for all your albums that went gold? Is that your consolation prize because you’ll never grow old? When I die (when I die) will I go (will I go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to Rock n’ Roll Heaven) When I die (when I die) I wanna go (wanna go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. The post 199 – The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone: Musical Mysteries with Richard Syrett appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F06%2F04%2F199-the-rock-n-roll-twilight-zone-musical-mysteries-with-richard-syrett%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> Richard Syrett didn’t start off being a weirdo, he was a radio host who stumbled onto a Sunday night talk show in Toronto whose audience shot through the roof when they broached paranormal topics (much like Art Bell and the original Coast to Coast AM did, and now Richard is a frequent guest host of Coast to Coast as well!) But that shift proved auspicious, because Richard Syrett has been tackling the strange and unusual each week on Canadian radio with <a href="http://www.talkzone.com/shows/199/conspiracy_show.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Conspiracy Show </a>and that even lead to four seasons of a <a href="http://www.theconspiracyshow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">television program as well on Vision TV.</a> <a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/zweb-s3.uploads/hopetv/2012/03/TheConspiracyShow2_600x338.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> Richard SyrettBut just because Richard Syrett waited some time in his profession career to start exploring the paranormal, doesn’t mean that he hasn’t felt that cold strange grip of the strange. He was close with with rock n’ roll author R. Gary Patterson who had spent decades exploring musical mysteries and the dark side of rock n’ roll pop culture. Gary was a frequent guest on The Conspiracy Show and Richard and Gary were planning to work together on their program when Gary passed away in 2017. Richard goes into detail on his own strange encounter with what might have been R. Gary Patterson’s ghost in our conversation! Syrett’s new show is called The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone and you can <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-rock-roll-twilight-zone" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hear it on Chris Jericho’s Podcast One network</a>. It is a deep dive into some of Rock’s greatest mysteries and you’re bound to hear some conspiracies and strange stories that you’ve never heard before. I’ve been listening to it all week an it’s a lot of fun. In this interview, <a href="http://www.milwaukeeghosts.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Allison from Milwaukee Ghosts</a> joins Richard and I in discussing some of the great topics that he’s been covering on The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone: <ul> <li>Was Elvis murdered?</li> <li>How Jim Morrison could have faked his own death</li> <li>Robert Johnson’s deal with the Devil and the curse of the Crossroads</li> </ul> The song this week is called “Rock &amp; Roll Heaven” but it’s not quite as hagiographic as the Righteous Brothers’ 70s’ song of the same name. While the “live fast, die young” aesthetic of the 60s and 70s rock stars certainly contributed to their mythological stature, it’s more sad than anything else. Would you sacrifice decades of your life (even if it’s the old crappy part) to amplify your legacy? Are you good enough to get into “Rock &amp; Roll Heaven”? When I die will I go to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? Am I good, am I good enough to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? Where the high lasts forever, all the amps go to eleven When I die I wanna go to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. Is there a chart in the skies for all your albums that went gold? Is that your consolation prize because you’ll never grow old? When I die (when I die) will I go (will I go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven) Am I good (am I good), am I good enough (good enough) to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to get into Rock &amp; Roll Heaven) Where the high lasts forever, the amps go to eleven (all the amps go to eleven) When I die (when I die) I wanna go (wanna go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. Is there a chart in the skies for all your albums that went gold? Is that your consolation prize because you’ll never grow old? When I die (when I die) will I go (will I go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven? (to Rock n’ Roll Heaven) When I die (when I die) I wanna go (wanna go) to Rock &amp; Roll Heaven. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2018/06/04/199-the-rock-n-roll-twilight-zone-musical-mysteries-with-richard-syrett/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">199 – The Rock &amp; Roll Twilight Zone: Musical Mysteries with Richard Syrett</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

199 – The Rock & Roll Twilight Zone: Musical Mysteries with Richard Syrett

Mark O’Connell

Tweet You might say that Mark O’Connell knows a little bit about Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the astronomer who was in charge of the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book. There, Hynek was charged by the military to investigate UFO reports across America and then summarily disprove them. In fact, Mark O’Connell literally wrote the book on Dr. Hynek called The Close Encounters Man.  We’ve had Mark on the show several times before and it’s always a treat. He’s written for Star Trek, has a UFO blog, and he even joined us for a remembrance of Bill Paxton, because Mark had written a script that Bill wanted to direct in the late 90s but unfortunately it never came to fruition. So you think when the “History” Channel decided to create a show called Project Blue Book where J. Allen Hynek is the lead character, they might contact Mark because they were look for true life stories for their show. Well, the answer to that one is a big fat no. They decided to go on a little more fantastical route.    Aiden Gillen as J. Allen Hynek talking to an alien in a water tank. Hynek biographer Mark O’Connell is not amused.    We kicked off the episode by discussing the trip Allison just got back from in Woodstock, Illinois before we started the recording. She was following the trail of a Mothman sighting she read about on The Singular Fortean because it sounded somewhat like the Flatwoods Monster story that actually forms the basis of the second episode of the new show.  Allison also attended the Chicago premiere where the producers and Hynek’s son were in attendance. But Hollywood history be damned, we talk about the real stories behind the man. J. Allen Hynek basically invented how we study UFOs, how you scientifically look at each report and take a look at each piece of evidence from the weather to the planets to the phase of the moon to the position of the stars, and you eliminate all the terrestrial explanations before you move into the extra-terrestrial. We also get into: The real story of how Dr. Hynek first moved from the desk to the field investigating UFO cases for the Air ForceThe cases that converted J. Allen Hynek from a skeptic into much more open minded about the reality of strange lights in the skyHow Hynek became UFOlogy’s Enemy #1 by suggesting some Michigan sightings might be just “swamp gas”Mark’s favorite case from his own UFO investigations as a MUFON investigator (and what’s going wrong with some of the MUFON politics and investigative methods lately.)    The real guy and Littlefinger…    Hollywood loves to say things are “based on a true story” and then proceed to make them wildly inaccurate. Here, we understand that fiction is fun, but that often the best parts of even fantastical stories (like haunted houses, UFO sightings, etc…) are the parts that keep us grounded to the Earth. By fictionalizing the story to an X-Files extent, you’re doing disrespect to the actual man. Hynek’s investigative techniques and open mind are what made him a legend in UFOlogy. He was dealing with a lot of things that couldn’t be proven and his mission to discredit UFO sightings is what made it all the more impactiful when he found cases where he could not find an answer. It was his rigorous scientific method of investigation that made the difference, not secret government informants or Werner von Braun. For the song this week, we were taken by the fact that sometimes the media thinks we’re too dumb to think for ourselves. There is a language and shorthand to cinema that is meant to trigger our emotions quickly and too often producers think that they can exploit our beliefs with special effects and “dramatizations”,  sacrificing quality for spectacle. Well, we’d rather hear the truth about Hynek and here is Sunspot with “Disinformation Nation”. Don’t trust your eyes and question what you see  They’ll tell you lies the don’t care about history A story to bewitch that is designed to find your switch you’ll never see it coming  when they activate your programming Believe Disinformation nation Deceive Disinformation nation  How loud can you shout with a  a mouth inside a mouth we’re just hardwired for manipulation Disinformation nation. You’ll see all things new with a mind that’s clean A brain tattoo imprints and memes A tale to push your trigger point Finding the weakness at the joints Looking for a crowd to whip and you’ll jump when your sequence is tripped Believe Disinformation nation Deceive Disinformation nation  How loud can you shout with a  a mouth inside a mouth we’re just hardwired for manipulation Disinformation nation. The post 238 – Swamp Gaslighting: Project Blue Book Smackdown with Mark O’Connell appeared first on See You On The Other Side.

<a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fothersidepodcast.com%2Fblog%2F2019%2F03%2F05%2F238-swamp-gaslighting-project-blue-book-smackdown-with-mark-oconnell%2F&amp;via=othersidetalk&amp;related=sunspotmike%3AMike%20Huberty" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tweet</a> You might say that Mark O’Connell knows a little bit about Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the astronomer who was in charge of the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book. There, Hynek was charged by the military to investigate UFO reports across America and then summarily disprove them. In fact, Mark O’Connell literally wrote the book on Dr. Hynek called The Close Encounters Man. <center><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062484176/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062484176&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=sunspot-20&amp;linkId=167a9f259d95016b9651d0f885915c87" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank"></a></center> We’ve had Mark on the show several times before and it’s always a treat. He’s written for <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2017/06/27/150-close-encounters-man-conversation-mark-oconnell-ufos-dr-j-allen-hynek/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Star Trek</a>, <a href="http://www.highstrangenessufo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">h</a>a<a href="http://www.highstrangenessufo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">s a UFO blog</a>, and he even joined us for a <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2017/03/07/134-game-man-remembering-bill-paxton/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">remembrance of Bill Paxton</a>, because Mark had written a script that Bill wanted to direct in the late 90s but unfortunately it never came to fruition. So you think when the “History” Channel decided to create a show called Project Blue Book where J. Allen Hynek is the lead character, they might contact Mark because they were look for true life stories for their show. Well, the answer to that one is a big fat no. They decided to go on a little more fantastical route. Aiden Gillen as J. Allen Hynek talking to an alien in a water tank. Hynek biographer Mark O’Connell is not amused. We kicked off the episode by discussing the trip Allison just got back from in Woodstock, Illinois before we started the recording. She was following the trail of a Mothman sighting she read about on <a href="https://www.singularfortean.com/news/2019/2/26/large-winged-being-covered-in-dark-fur-reported-in-woodstock-illinois" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Singular Fortean</a> because it sounded somewhat like the <a href="https://www.history.com/news/flatwoods-monster-west-virginia" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Flatwoods Monster</a> story that actually forms the basis of the <a href="https://www.history.com/shows/project-blue-book/season-1/episode-2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">second episode of the new show</a>. Allison also attended the Chicago premiere where the producers and Hynek’s son were in attendance. But Hollywood history be damned, we talk about the real stories behind the man. J. Allen Hynek basically invented how we study UFOs, how you scientifically look at each report and take a look at each piece of evidence from the weather to the planets to the phase of the moon to the position of the stars, and you eliminate all the terrestrial explanations before you move into the extra-terrestrial. We also get into: <ul><li>The real story of how Dr. Hynek first moved from the desk to the field investigating UFO cases for the Air Force</li><li>The cases that converted J. Allen Hynek from a skeptic into much more open minded about the reality of strange lights in the sky</li><li>How Hynek became UFOlogy’s Enemy #1 by suggesting some Michigan sightings might be just “swamp gas”</li><li>Mark’s favorite case from <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2015/01/28/23-life-ufo-investigator-interview-mark-oconnell-part-2/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">his own UFO investigations</a> as a MUFON investigator (and what’s going wrong with some of the MUFON politics and investigative methods lately.)</li></ul> The real guy and Littlefinger… Hollywood loves to say things are “based on a true story” and then proceed to make them wildly inaccurate. Here, we understand that fiction is fun, but that often the best parts of even fantastical stories (like haunted houses, UFO sightings, etc…) are the parts that keep us grounded to the Earth. By fictionalizing the story to an X-Files extent, you’re doing disrespect to the actual man. Hynek’s investigative techniques and open mind are what made him a legend in UFOlogy. He was dealing with a lot of things that couldn’t be proven and his mission to discredit UFO sightings is what made it all the more impactiful when he found cases where he could not find an answer. It was his rigorous scientific method of investigation that made the difference, not secret government informants or Werner von Braun. For the song this week, we were taken by the fact that sometimes the media thinks we’re too dumb to think for ourselves. There is a language and shorthand to cinema that is meant to trigger our emotions quickly and too often producers think that they can exploit our beliefs with special effects and “dramatizations”, sacrificing quality for spectacle. Well, we’d rather hear the truth about Hynek and here is Sunspot with “Disinformation Nation”. Don’t trust your eyes and question what you see They’ll tell you lies the don’t care about history A story to bewitch that is designed to find your switch you’ll never see it coming when they activate your programming Believe Disinformation nation Deceive Disinformation nation How loud can you shout with a a mouth inside a mouth we’re just hardwired for manipulation Disinformation nation. You’ll see all things new with a mind that’s clean A brain tattoo imprints and memes A tale to push your trigger point Finding the weakness at the joints Looking for a crowd to whip and you’ll jump when your sequence is tripped Believe Disinformation nation Deceive Disinformation nation How loud can you shout with a a mouth inside a mouth we’re just hardwired for manipulation Disinformation nation. The post <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com/blog/2019/03/05/238-swamp-gaslighting-project-blue-book-smackdown-with-mark-oconnell/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">238 – Swamp Gaslighting: Project Blue Book Smackdown with Mark O’Connell</a> appeared first on <a href="https://othersidepodcast.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See You On The Other Side</a>.

238 – Swamp Gaslighting: Project Blue Book Smackdown with Mark O’Connell

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