Christopher Michlig

Oliver Payne

It’s slime time. In 2022, artists Christopher Michlig and Oliver Payne released, respectively, the book File Under: Slime and the film A Brief History of Slime. At the time, each was completely unaware of the other’s slime-related research. On this episode, they join to discuss peak slime culture of the 1980s and 90s, the recent resurgence of slime through YouTube and TikTok, California as a cultural funnel and filter, and the Goop lifestyle. The outro music is “Mind Fulla Slime” by Mean Jeans. /// Purchase Michlig’s book through Hat &amp; Beard Press here: https://hatandbeard.com/products/file-under-slime-by-christopher-michlig /// View Payne’s video here: https://vimeo.com/684376655 ///

It’s slime time. In 2022, artists Christopher Michlig and Oliver Payne released, respectively, the book File Under: Slime and the film A Brief History of Slime. At the time, each was completely unaware of the other’s slime-related research. On this episode, they join to discuss peak slime culture of the 1980s and 90s, the recent resurgence of slime through YouTube and TikTok, California as a cultural funnel and filter, and the Goop lifestyle. The outro music is “Mind Fulla Slime” by Mean Jeans. /// Purchase Michlig’s book through Hat &amp; Beard Press here: <a href="https://hatandbeard.com/products/file-under-slime-by-christopher-michlig" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://hatandbeard.com/products/file-under-slime-by-christopher-michlig</a> /// View Payne’s video here: <a href="https://vimeo.com/684376655" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/684376655</a> ///

112: Christopher Michlig and Oliver Payne

Adam Khalil

Filmmaker and artist Adam Khalil joins the podcast to talk collaboration, nonlinear time, irony’s extant potential, and the aesthetics of Indigenous cinema. Among Khalil’s many film projects are Nosferasta: First Bite (2021), Empty Metal (2018), and INAATE/SE/ (2016). Khalil is a co-founder of the public secret society New Red Order, which you can get involved with by dialing 1 (888) NEW-RED1. If you’re in Michigan, Khalil will be screening films and speaking at a variety of events as part of GVSU’s Arts Celebration this month. See the full calendar here: https://tinyurl.com/khalilgvsu

Filmmaker and artist Adam Khalil joins the podcast to talk collaboration, nonlinear time, irony’s extant potential, and the aesthetics of Indigenous cinema. Among Khalil’s many film projects are Nosferasta: First Bite (2021), Empty Metal (2018), and INAATE/SE/ (2016). Khalil is a co-founder of the public secret society New Red Order, which you can get involved with by dialing 1 (888) NEW-RED1. If you’re in Michigan, Khalil will be screening films and speaking at a variety of events as part of GVSU’s Arts Celebration this month. See the full calendar here: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/khalilgvsu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/khalilgvsu</a>

111: Adam Khalil

Elvia Wilk

New York writer Elvia Wilk joins to discuss her recent collection of essays on ecologies, “Death By Landscape” (Soft Skull Press, 2022). Using an accessible approach she calls “fan-nonfiction,” Wilk’s latest book catalouges and considers a diverse group of writers, while ruminating on plant-becoming, slow apocalypses, mysticism, LARPing, trauma, the New Weird, consent, and black holes. The outro music is “Planta” by Soda Stereo. Purchase “Death By Landscape,” as well as Wilk’s 2019 debut novel “Oval,” through Soft Skull Press:https://softskull.com/authors/elvia-wilk/

New York writer Elvia Wilk joins to discuss her recent collection of essays on ecologies, “Death By Landscape” (Soft Skull Press, 2022). Using an accessible approach she calls “fan-nonfiction,” Wilk’s latest book catalouges and considers a diverse group of writers, while ruminating on plant-becoming, slow apocalypses, mysticism, LARPing, trauma, the New Weird, consent, and black holes. The outro music is “Planta” by Soda Stereo. Purchase “Death By Landscape,” as well as Wilk’s 2019 debut novel “Oval,” through Soft Skull Press: <a href="https://softskull.com/authors/elvia-wilk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://softskull.com/authors/elvia-wilk/</a>

110: Elvia Wilk

Ian A. Vanek

Humor and the Abject has a special treat for all you screedlers out there: an interview with Japanther co-founder Ian Vanek. He’s about to release “Puppy Dog Ice Cream,” a new book all about Japanther’s 13-year run, published by Outlandish Press. We talked about buzzing, vibing, and dancing; Brooklyn DIY in the mid-00s; one-man motorcycle/sampler tours; the rainy charm of the Pacific Northwest; blissing the fuck out; playing a show in a castle with Penny Rimbaud of Crass (who bit them); how to make your band a sculpture, and a whole lot more. The outro music is Ian’s current band HOWARDIAN, reworking a Genesis classic. Pre-order your copy of “Puppy Dog Ice Cream” today:https://www.outlandish.press/store/p/puppy-dog-ice-cream-the-story-of-japanther

Humor and the Abject has a special treat for all you screedlers out there: an interview with Japanther co-founder Ian Vanek. He’s about to release “Puppy Dog Ice Cream,” a new book all about Japanther’s 13-year run, published by Outlandish Press. We talked about buzzing, vibing, and dancing; Brooklyn DIY in the mid-00s; one-man motorcycle/sampler tours; the rainy charm of the Pacific Northwest; blissing the fuck out; playing a show in a castle with Penny Rimbaud of Crass (who bit them); how to make your band a sculpture, and a whole lot more. The outro music is Ian’s current band HOWARDIAN, reworking a Genesis classic. Pre-order your copy of “Puppy Dog Ice Cream” today: https://www.outlandish.press/store/p/puppy-dog-ice-cream-the-story-of-japanther

109: Ian A. Vanek (Japanther)

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, babyyyyyyyy. It’s the lucky thirteenth episode of the DSA Podcast, starring your pals Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe. To celebrate, the power trio ripped into some of the most important topics of the day including Jeff Bezos delivering packages to the moon, raccoon roommates, fighting a cat, Alec Baldwin sightings, and more. The outro music is “True Romance” by Tiger Army.

108: The DSA Podcast (Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe) #13

Charlie Markbreiter

New York writer Charlie Markbreiter (@BerlantBro) has written about contemporary art, humor, and edgelordism for The New Inquiry, Artforum, Baffler, Momus, and Garage, among others. On this week’s episode, we talked about their interest in comedy and humorlessness; a recent interview they conducted with scholar Lauren Berlant; why the NYMPHOWARS podcast subverts right wing and liberal expectations; gimmickry, social justice, and being annoying; and the impotent self-destruction of Jackass. The outro music is “Delete Yourself!” by Atari Teenage Riot. Read Charlie’s interview with Lauren Berlant here: https://thenewinquiry.com/cant-take-a-joke/Read Charlie’s article on NYMPHOWARS here:https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/vbaz9d/nymphowars-podcast

New York writer Charlie Markbreiter (@BerlantBro) has written about contemporary art, humor, and edgelordism for The New Inquiry, Artforum, Baffler, Momus, and Garage, among others. On this week’s episode, we talked about their interest in comedy and humorlessness; a recent interview they conducted with scholar Lauren Berlant; why the NYMPHOWARS podcast subverts right wing and liberal expectations; gimmickry, social justice, and being annoying; and the impotent self-destruction of Jackass. The outro music is “Delete Yourself!” by Atari Teenage Riot. Read Charlie’s interview with Lauren Berlant here: <a href="https://thenewinquiry.com/cant-take-a-joke/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://thenewinquiry.com/cant-take-a-joke/</a> Read Charlie’s article on NYMPHOWARS here: <a href="https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/vbaz9d/nymphowars-podcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/vbaz9d/nymphowars-podcast</a>

107: Charlie Markbreiter

Janet40 is the Mexico City-based curatorial and production platform of Patricia Siller and Luis Nava. They’ve been in Austin for the last month as part of the Unlisted Projects residency program at the Museum of Human Achievement. While in town, they’ve been working on prototyping and fabricating objects for artists Canek Zapata (Mexico City) and Hannah Dubbe (Austin). We got the chance to get together in their studio at MoHA and talk about their current projects; the Janet40 origin story; having day jobs; turning URL content into IRL objects; capitalism; love; how to make rice glow in the dark; aliens; the nature of collaboration; and the totally nuts amount of upcoming projects they’ve already got in the works. The outro music is “It’s a Fine Day” by Opus III. View their project archive here: https://janet40.com/

Janet40 is the Mexico City-based curatorial and production platform of Patricia Siller and Luis Nava. They’ve been in Austin for the last month as part of the Unlisted Projects residency program at the Museum of Human Achievement. While in town, they’ve been working on prototyping and fabricating objects for artists Canek Zapata (Mexico City) and Hannah Dubbe (Austin). We got the chance to get together in their studio at MoHA and talk about their current projects; the Janet40 origin story; having day jobs; turning URL content into IRL objects; capitalism; love; how to make rice glow in the dark; aliens; the nature of collaboration; and the totally nuts amount of upcoming projects they’ve already got in the works. The outro music is “It’s a Fine Day” by Opus III. View their project archive here: <a href="https://janet40.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://janet40.com/</a>

106: Janet40

It’s my big birthday week, babies. To celebrate, I caught up with an old friend, artist Beth Campbell from New York. She was visiting Austin this past week to unveil a new public art project as part of the Landmarks collection at the University of Texas. I got to see Beth do a great conversation with philosopher Timothy Morton, who also wrote a nice essay about her work available via the link below. During our own conversation, Beth and I discussed the arc of her practice over the last 20 years, which has won her a Guggenheim Fellowship and a Pollack-Krasner Grant, and has seen her work presented in venues including the Whitney, the Drawing Room in London, MoMA PS1, and tons of other places. We talk mirrors, audience expectations, the difference between installation and sculpture, emotional time travel, and a whole lot more. The outro music is “Mythmaster” by Lightning Bolt. Read Timothy Morton’s essay, and learn more about Beth’s Landmarks project, here: https://landmarks.utexas.edu/artwork/spontaneous-futures-possible-past

It’s my big birthday week, babies. To celebrate, I caught up with an old friend, artist Beth Campbell from New York. She was visiting Austin this past week to unveil a new public art project as part of the Landmarks collection at the University of Texas. I got to see Beth do a great conversation with philosopher Timothy Morton, who also wrote a nice essay about her work available via the link below. During our own conversation, Beth and I discussed the arc of her practice over the last 20 years, which has won her a Guggenheim Fellowship and a Pollack-Krasner Grant, and has seen her work presented in venues including the Whitney, the Drawing Room in London, MoMA PS1, and tons of other places. We talk mirrors, audience expectations, the difference between installation and sculpture, emotional time travel, and a whole lot more. The outro music is “Mythmaster” by Lightning Bolt. Read Timothy Morton’s essay, and learn more about Beth’s Landmarks project, here: <a href="https://landmarks.utexas.edu/artwork/spontaneous-futures-possible-past" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://landmarks.utexas.edu/artwork/spontaneous-futures-possible-past</a>

105: Beth Campbell

Azikiwe is finally back from his travels all around North America, so it’s time for another installment of everybody’s favorite podcast within the podcast, the DSA Podcast (Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe). With the remake of “Pet Sematary” dropping this week, we thought it only appropriate to do a comprehensive review of the original film that is now 30 years old. We also learn a lot about different types of domestic pet breeds! Fuck it all, baby! The outro music is “Pet Sematary” by Ramones.

104: The DSA Podcast (Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe) #12

Mike Pepi

New York writer Mike Pepi makes his debut on the Humor and the Abject podcast to talk about the important topics currently ripping up your mind: the smooth jazz rock of Steely Dan; parvenus; the Mueller Report; restaurant lighting design; why museums are failing to confront platform capitalism; how many times one can legally donate to Bernie; that classic libertarian love of street art; the twisted history of Huntington, New York; picks for Vice President; restaurant drama across Manhattan; and, of course, neoliberalism. The outro music is “Black Cow” by Steely Dan.

103: Mike Pepi

Humor and the Abject is a podcast about contemporary art hosted by Sean J Patrick Carney.

Besides the obvious name thing this is very good podcast and a podcast I deserve.

The host has four names. Wow.

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Ana Fabrega

One of Brooklyn's finest comics, Ana Fabrega, joins the podcast to talk about her unorthodox approach to standup comedy, her new writing gig, why the scene in New York is changing for the better, and revealing absolutely nothing about her as an actual person to the audience. We're sponsored today by Wage Theft, Jimmy John's, Mira Gonzalez's Twitter account, Zoe Dubno's YouTube channel, and either a cooking ingredients delivery startup or a streaming television service.

03: Ana Fabrega

One of my dangdest friends, Chloe Wise, came by the studio this week. She and I got to talk about her recent solo exhibition in Paris (France, not Texas), whether being Canadian automatically makes you funny, trying out new mediums, her new kitten named Pluto Chicken Nugget Wise, the politics of dairy, Ubering to incredible pizza in Philly, food in general, sculptural carbohydrates, and a terrible joke I tried to tell to the man who owns my local wine store. We’re sponsored this week by bootleg ranch dressing hacks, impostor designer handbags, clowning on The Creators Project, and partying LOL.

27: Chloe Wise

Joshua Citarella

Joshua Citarella has a phenomenal new book out, "UNTITLED (Post-Left Politigram)," that you can read an excerpt from via his website linked below. It’s a collection of his research, writing, and artwork over several years related to accelerated political identities in adolescent online culture. He joins from his efficiency living unit in New York City this week to talk about his involvement with historically notorious Tumblr art collective the Jogging, accidental audiences, the not-yet-readymades he designed with Brad Troemel for Etsy under the banner of Ultraviolet Production House, startling overlaps between rightwing doomsday preppers and rooftop gardening Pinterest libs, freelance purgatory, Deftones, not getting an MFA, the byzantine philosophies of politically-radical Instagram posters, reading “Ishmael” once, and photography. The outro music is “Hearts Frozen Solid, Thawed Once More By The Spring Of Rage, Despair And Hopelessness” by AFI. About halfway through the episode, you’ll hear the first Custom Sound Collage from October’s subscriber lottery, made for OK Fox and Lucia Love of the Art and Labor podcast. If you’d like a chance to win one of your own, back Humor and the Abject on Patreon for just $3/mo. Get excerpts from Joshua Citarella’s new book here: http://joshuacitarella.com/_pdf/Politigram_Post-left_2018_short.pdf

Joshua Citarella has a phenomenal new book out, "UNTITLED (Post-Left Politigram)," that you can read an excerpt from via his website linked below. It’s a collection of his research, writing, and artwork over several years related to accelerated political identities in adolescent online culture. He joins from his efficiency living unit in New York City this week to talk about his involvement with historically notorious Tumblr art collective the Jogging, accidental audiences, the not-yet-readymades he designed with Brad Troemel for Etsy under the banner of Ultraviolet Production House, startling overlaps between rightwing doomsday preppers and rooftop gardening Pinterest libs, freelance purgatory, Deftones, not getting an MFA, the byzantine philosophies of politically-radical Instagram posters, reading “Ishmael” once, and photography. The outro music is “Hearts Frozen Solid, Thawed Once More By The Spring Of Rage, Despair And Hopelessness” by AFI. About halfway through the episode, you’ll hear the first Custom Sound Collage from October’s subscriber lottery, made for OK Fox and Lucia Love of the Art and Labor podcast. If you’d like a chance to win one of your own, back Humor and the Abject on Patreon for just $3/mo. Get excerpts from Joshua Citarella’s new book here: <a href="http://joshuacitarella.com/_pdf/Politigram_Post-left_2018_short.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://joshuacitarella.com/_pdf/Politigram_Post-left_2018_short.pdf</a>

88: Joshua Citarella

The Philadelphia Tapes Part II: Alex Da Corte. It was a real treat during my trip to Philly to have the opportunity to swing by Alex Da Corte’s studio and record an episode. He’s one of the sweetest and hardworking artists out there. On this episode, we talked about fear, his intense love of books, the time he stalked his family in New Jersey as Michael Myers from “Halloween,” his recent solo exhibition called “C-A-T Spells Murder” at Karma in NYC, what it’s like to be penpals with painter Sam McKinniss, collaboration as a matter-of-fact, the history of the “Easternsports” exhibition he produced with Jayson Musson at ICA Philadelphia, directing a Dev Hynes music video-turned-Gap-ad, making art without knowing what you’re doing or even what it’s about, why video art is so difficult, and why every single thing that he makes is really just a bong. The outro music is “Familiar Patterns” by Toronto punk band PUP.

61: Alex Da Corte

Artist Molly Soda, one of the most recognizable names in internet-based practices, joins Humor and the Abject this week. We gabbed about growing up online, selfie feminism in hindsight, her recent solo exhibitions at 315 Gallery in Brooklyn and Annka Kultys Gallery in London, perceptions of sincerity and honesty in her work, isolation, aesthetic and interface evolutions in social media, how we actively present ourselves for internet audiences, and shitposting. We’re sponsored this week by wooden logs and liberal-presenting media people who participate in email chains with Milo Yiannopoulos. Make sure to come out to the live Humor and the Abject event with Street Fight Radio on Sunday, October 22nd at Throne Watches in Bushwick. Check the blog for details.

21: Molly Soda

Comedian and self-described “aspiring actress” Ruby McCollister is my guest this week. We covered a ton of ground including the true meaning of “glam” comedy, what exactly is up with Joshua Tree, growing up backstage in a Los Angeles theater, being an only child, the humble origins of the Blue Man Group, having your teen aspirations documented on film, existential Uber conversations, discovering that comedy is her true medium, supportive peer networks, and the terror of taking direction. We’re sponsored this week by anarcho-capitalism, parking lot fees, bluegrass values, and the band that Dustin Yellin used to be in before he decided to become an artist. Shout out to our new subscribers on Drip!

30: Ruby McCollister

Darcie Wilder

It’s episode 100 of the Humor and the Abject podcast! To celebrate this unholy milestone, we brought back our very first guest ever: Darcie Wilder. THIS IS NOT JUST A DSA PODCAST WITHOUT AZIKIWE. Over the course of this latest conversation, Darcie and I discussed her weekly conceptual newsletter, “sentences”;  the Elizabeth Holmes Theranos scandal; the nuances of reporting for jury duty; that time Mayor de Blasio killed a groundhog and tried to cover it up; and we play a brand new game called Better Take Than Never. Throughout the episode, you’ll hear cameos from multiple previous Humor and the Abject guests. The outro music is a total travesty by alumnus Daniel J Glendening. Buy Darcie’s book here: https://store.nytyrant.com/products/literally-show-me-a-healthy-person-by-darcie-wilderSubscribe to the “sentences” newsletter here:https://tinyletter.com/darcieSupport Humor and the Abject on Patreon here:https://www.patreon.com/humorandtheabject

It’s episode 100 of the Humor and the Abject podcast! To celebrate this unholy milestone, we brought back our very first guest ever: Darcie Wilder. THIS IS NOT JUST A DSA PODCAST WITHOUT AZIKIWE. Over the course of this latest conversation, Darcie and I discussed her weekly conceptual newsletter, “sentences”; the Elizabeth Holmes Theranos scandal; the nuances of reporting for jury duty; that time Mayor de Blasio killed a groundhog and tried to cover it up; and we play a brand new game called Better Take Than Never. Throughout the episode, you’ll hear cameos from multiple previous Humor and the Abject guests. The outro music is a total travesty by alumnus Daniel J Glendening. Buy Darcie’s book here: <a href="https://store.nytyrant.com/products/literally-show-me-a-healthy-person-by-darcie-wilder" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://store.nytyrant.com/products/literally-show-me-a-healthy-person-by-darcie-wilder</a> Subscribe to the “sentences” newsletter here: <a href="https://tinyletter.com/darcie" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyletter.com/darcie</a> Support Humor and the Abject on Patreon here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/humorandtheabject" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/humorandtheabject</a>

100: Darcie Wilder Returns

Musician, performance artist, professional muse, and self-described “Culturally-Absorbent Prototype” Jennifer Vanilla is my guest this week. Following her mildly frustrating Instagram live post trying to find parking in Bushwick, she managed to locate my apartment and, subsequently, my kitchen studio. We had a great discussion about her monthly show JVL@B (Jennifer Vanilla Live at the Bar) at the Windjammer in Ridgewood, the interesting relationship she has with dance music edits, why shipping to Canada is such an outrageous pain in the ass, why I love and miss the brooding falls and winters of the Pacific Northwest, whether feeling “special” is important, the role of the producer, scandals surrounding the 1994 Winter Olympics in Lillehammer, the Jennifer Vanilla aesthetic, and distinctly ‘90s humor. We also shared the end of a Toblerone and she showed off some of her commercial voice acting skills.

39: Jennifer Vanilla

Andrea McGinty

You know her on Twitter as @lifecreep, but IRL she’s artist Andrea McGinty. Our friendship goes back several years, and a text-based interview I did with Andrea was one of the very first posts on the Humor and the Abject blog. She stopped by the kitchen this week to talk about material choices and comedy in her sculptures, why getting dunked on by teens is the most devastating of all dunks, the absolute joys of cooking at home in Queens and new dishes she’s been perfecting, her recent two-person exhibition with Ben Dowell at Holiday Forever in Jackson Hole, acting as an occasional curator, the history of sofas, how everyone walks in LA and New York is way too spread out, true crime podcasts, her celebrity cat Larry, the current show she’s in called “Home Edition” at Essex Flowers, and an upcoming pop-up show she’s doing with Museum Gallery at 45 Stewart Ave in Bushwick on March 10th. Also, I made her play a new game segment for the podcast called “Canonization or Erasure” and I personally think she did great. We’re sponsored this week by the nasty slaps of a bass guitar, Bank of Ages, and the humble, nourishing whir of a humidifier.

47: Andrea McGinty

Jacob Ciocci

As part of fabled collective Paper Rad, artist Jacob Ciocci co-produced animations, video collages, and HTML works that have had a profound influence on almost every artist working with technology today—whether they realize it or not. On this week’s episode, Jacob joins from his new home of Chicago to discuss fatherhood; his early days as a student at Oberlin College with Cory Arcangel and Paul B Davis; the genesis of Paper Rad with his sister, artist Jessica Ciocci, and Ben Jones; the aesthetic break between Paper Rad and postinternet art; his beguiling experience encountering Fort Thunder in Providence; the craft beer craze and artifical scarcity; being scared of watching brain-rotting cartoons; his longtime musical collaboration, Extreme Animals, with David Wightman; being so uncool that it becomes cool; a recent teaching gig in animation; and the devastating pain of archiving your work. The outro music is “SURFING/SUFFERING” by Extreme Animals. Additional Extreme Animals tracks play throughout the episode.Want to hear more Extreme Animals? Buy a digital download of their movie, "The Urgency," here:https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theurgency

As part of fabled collective Paper Rad, artist Jacob Ciocci co-produced animations, video collages, and HTML works that have had a profound influence on almost every artist working with technology today—whether they realize it or not. On this week’s episode, Jacob joins from his new home of Chicago to discuss fatherhood; his early days as a student at Oberlin College with Cory Arcangel and Paul B Davis; the genesis of Paper Rad with his sister, artist Jessica Ciocci, and Ben Jones; the aesthetic break between Paper Rad and postinternet art; his beguiling experience encountering Fort Thunder in Providence; the craft beer craze and artifical scarcity; being scared of watching brain-rotting cartoons; his longtime musical collaboration, Extreme Animals, with David Wightman; being so uncool that it becomes cool; a recent teaching gig in animation; and the devastating pain of archiving your work. The outro music is “SURFING/SUFFERING” by Extreme Animals. Additional Extreme Animals tracks play throughout the episode. Want to hear more Extreme Animals? Buy a digital download of their movie, "The Urgency," here: <a href="https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theurgency" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theurgency</a>

98: Jacob Ciocci

Recorded inside of one of Richard Serra’s Torqued Ellipses at Dia:Beacon, comedian Ana Fabrega is back in her second appearance on Humor and the Abject. Earlier on the day this was recorded, Ana was a visiting artist for the teens I teach at the museum, performing a live comedy set for them and then helping them workshop one-act plays they’ve been writing. Ana and I talked about the big news that HBO has ordered a season of her new show, "Los Espookys," co-created with Fred Armisen and Julio Torres. We also discussed her season writing for "The Chris Gethard Show," why she’s been more selective in where she performs live, and surf music’s obsession with being spooky. Also on this episode, it’s the return of audio food review series The Savage Table with Alex Savage (@focra), wherein he reviews a ham sandwich that he ate over a year ago in Italy. The background music in my speaking intro is “Conquistador” by Guantanamo Baywatch, and the outro song is “Barbacoa,” also by Guantanamo Baywatch.

75: Ana Fabrega Returns / The Savage Table

Jennifer Sullivan

Artist, stand-up comedian, and occasional curator Jennifer Sullivan is my guest this week. We talked about the show she put together last summer called “Cosmic Joke” at Safe Gallery, channeling Julian Schnabel, contexts for stand-up comedy, why legal weed is strangling Denver’s artist community, balancing real life and studio residencies, early Saturday Night Live, why performance art could stand to be a little more entertaining, going off-script, quitting vices, and tons of other stuff. You can catch Jennifer performing at friend-of-the-podcast Jennifer Vanilla’s live show this week on Tuesday, February 6th at the Windjammer in Ridgewood alongside Natalie Casagran Lopez, Teeny Lieberson, Sam Regal, Jen Goma, plus a video from Peter Smith. Also -- pick up a copy of this month’s Art in America for a new feature I wrote called “The Practical Precariat” featuring Jaimie Warren, Brontez Purnell, Jillian Mayer, and comedian Chris Gethard, and come out to a live panel about the piece on Monday, February 12th at Neuehouse in New York.

41: Jennifer Sullivan

Emma Kohlmann

Western Mass artist Emma Kohlmann was visiting Austin for a printmaking residency at the University of Texas last week, and was kind enough to drop by to record an episode. We talked about zines and doing book fairs; bakeries and why sourdough is printmaking; liberal arts colleges; Scooby Doo; flirting with anti-civ tendencies; punk festivals; assuming you can’t be an artist; our siblings; the 2007 Toyota Prius; walking everywhere; what is wrong with parents today; and even more. The outro music is “Time to Stand” by Deep Wound. Check out Emma’s work here: http://ekohlmann.com/

Western Mass artist Emma Kohlmann was visiting Austin for a printmaking residency at the University of Texas last week, and was kind enough to drop by to record an episode. We talked about zines and doing book fairs; bakeries and why sourdough is printmaking; liberal arts colleges; Scooby Doo; flirting with anti-civ tendencies; punk festivals; assuming you can’t be an artist; our siblings; the 2007 Toyota Prius; walking everywhere; what is wrong with parents today; and even more. The outro music is “Time to Stand” by Deep Wound. Check out Emma’s work here: <a href="http://ekohlmann.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://ekohlmann.com/</a>

99: Emma Kohlmann

Brian Belott

Following “People Pie Pool,” his ridiculous extravaganza for Performa, artist Brian Belott drops by my kitchen to talk about the finest aspects of the fine arts. We discussed his obsession with collecting children’s art and the legacy of early childhood educator Rhoda Kellogg, slapstick comedy, lighting his head on fire dozens of times despite understandable protests from his mother, why Dada artists would hate Dada art, the Marx Brothers, the People Pie Pool performance, cacophony, calamity, and collaboration, having your mom as your own teacher, and much more. We’re sponsored this week by a new rock supergroup featuring members of the Stooges and fronted by the one and only Morrissey, a steam-powered alternative to Bitcoin called Dirigiblecoin, and a generous donation from mining mogul George Hearst from “Deadwood.” The outro song is “Tell the Truth” by Mizz.

31: Brian Belott

The DSA Podcast is back and bicoastal! If you count the Gulf of Mexico as one of the two coasts, that is. Your trusted hosts—Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe—are back after a brief hiatus to bring you all the hottest takes on things that have almost no impact on your everyday life. And it’s the introduction of a brand new game never before played on the pod. The outro music is “Jumpers” by Sleater-Kinney.

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Artist Carly Mark caught early attention for painting grotesque and comical renderings of Haribo brand gummy bear packaging. But she’s never been content just being known for a single approach to working, and in the last several years has branched out into elaborate sculpture, immersive installations, chaotic video pieces, and has quietly pursued acting, film production, modeling, writing, and publishing. She stopped by this week to discuss her new short horror film “Know Nothing,” as well as being from Michigan, developing a career longevity plan, her interest in camp and kitsch aesthetics, whether MoviePass is good or bad, the joy of prosthetics, comedy’s dwindling appeal as artistic approach in the age of Trump, being interdisciplinary as a matter-of-fact, internet art nostalgia, a new film that she co-wrote and stars in called “Puppet” that’s directed by her pal Adam Levett, and allowing herself to take the next two years off from exhibiting art to work on her own new feature-length film. Carly art directed the new cover of King Kong magazine which will be available in print on April 14th at tasteful periodicals retailers.

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With partial federal government shutdown over, the Humor and the Abject furlough comes to an end. We’re kicking off 2019 with the 11th episode of the podcast within the podcast, the DSA Podcast, which stands for Darcie, Sean, and Azikiwe. Get yourself into the groove of reopened national parks, a funded TSA, and federal I-9 work verifications courtesy of a conversation blossoming with 2019 predictions, Stephen King lore, the hottest Ja Rule takes, over-participation in contemporary art exhibitions, and getting kicked out of bars. The outro music is “Am I Evil?” by Extreme Animals.

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Peter Smith

What a treat we’ve got for you this week, screedlers. One of the funniest people that Brooklyn has to offer, Peter Smith, stopped by the kitchen to discuss their life and work. We chatted about their recent run at Carolines on Broadway, Alfred Hitchcock and horror, cabaret, big reveals, opening a glass tea house and eventually making Montana gay as fuck, the complicated character of Nancy Grace, their role on Turner Masters Memory Hospital, art history, their collaborations like The Bongo Hour with comedian and photographer Sandy Honig, the Keeping Up With the Katdashians musical, and much more. Catch the next Bongo Hour this Wednesday, March 7th at the Slipper Room in New York. You can purchase tickets here:http://ticketf.ly/2H3IFAg

What a treat we’ve got for you this week, screedlers. One of the funniest people that Brooklyn has to offer, Peter Smith, stopped by the kitchen to discuss their life and work. We chatted about their recent run at Carolines on Broadway, Alfred Hitchcock and horror, cabaret, big reveals, opening a glass tea house and eventually making Montana gay as fuck, the complicated character of Nancy Grace, their role on Turner Masters Memory Hospital, art history, their collaborations like The Bongo Hour with comedian and photographer Sandy Honig, the Keeping Up With the Katdashians musical, and much more. Catch the next Bongo Hour this Wednesday, March 7th at the Slipper Room in New York. You can purchase tickets here: <a href="http://ticketf.ly/2H3IFAg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://ticketf.ly/2H3IFAg</a>

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Michael Smith

Legendary performance, installation, and video artist Michael Smith, the mind behind the everyman character “Mike” and the terrible toddler Baby Ikki, joins for the latest episode of the Humor and the Abject podcast. We discussed whether or not a Midwest sense of humor exists, his pilgrimage to Burning Man in 2008 for a collaboration with Mike Kelley, having the same name as multiple other people, and whether or not a review I wrote of his 2015 solo show at Greene Naftali completely missed the mark. Today’s episode is sponsored by Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing and a brand new theme park for the wealthy elite, Midwestworld.

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Mitra Jouhari

The absolutely hilarious comedian Mitra Jouhari (@tweetrajouhari) stopped by the studio this week. An accomplished writer and actor, she also moonlights as ⅓ of the group Three Busy Debras and co-hosts the monthly It’s A Guy Thing at Union Hall with Patti Harrison and Catherine Cohen. We talked about getting her start in the New York comedy scene, the value of vulgarity, staging a ridiculous Three Busy Debras production at the famed Carnegie Hall, the upcoming It’s A Guy Thing holiday spectacular, why comedians should be free to express their politics, the terror of receiving packages in New York, creating supportive performance atmospheres, collaboration, the Midwest, and lots of other very important things. This week’s episode is brought to you by the wonderful people who support Humor and the Abject on Drip, as well as the concept of time and the allure of danger. The outro song is “Am I Evil?” by Extreme Animals.

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