Kieran Henstenburg

Christopher Shannon

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow Lama Mohammed chats with Glen Echo Group’s Creative Director, Christopher Shannon, and Associate Designer Kieran Henstenburg.The Glen Echo Group is a public affairs and public relations firm headquartered in Washington, D.C.,  specializing in policy and communications in technology policy. GEG works across the digital ecosystem, including artificial intelligence, broadband, cybersecurity, immersive technology, privacy, and more.In this conversation, Lama chats with Christopher and Kieran about how organizations’ creative and design teams can set up guardrails when utilizing generative artificial intelligence and the ethical questions to consider when using the technology.With the ongoing Writer’s Strike still dominating headlines, our experts dive into the importance of accountability, transparency, and responsible usage of AI-enabled tools to protect the artistic and entertainment industry. They balance these considerations with that of still being able to democratize the field for underrepresented communities.You can connect with Christopher and Kieran on LinkedIn and view all the great work they do for the Glen Echo Group by visiting the firm’s website or following the Glen Echo Group on social media.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!Resources Referenced: Adobe Firefly Charlie Brooker on Generative AI Google’s DeepDream State of the Net Conference Series Writer’s Guild of America (WGA) Strike Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) Strike LetterDISCLAIMER: Lama, Christopher, and Kieran engaged with this episode by the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama, Christopher, and Kieran are affiliated, associated, or work with.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-lama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lama Mohammed</a> chats with Glen Echo Group’s Creative Director, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cdshannon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christopher Shannon</a>, and Associate Designer <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kieran-henstenburg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kieran Henstenburg.</a> The <a href="https://www.glenechogroup.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glen Echo Group</a> is a public affairs and public relations firm headquartered in Washington, D.C.,  specializing in policy and communications in technology policy. GEG works across the digital ecosystem, including artificial intelligence, broadband, cybersecurity, immersive technology, privacy, and more. In this conversation, Lama chats with Christopher and Kieran about how organizations’ creative and design teams can set up guardrails when utilizing generative artificial intelligence and the ethical questions to consider when using the technology. With the ongoing Writer’s Strike still dominating headlines, our experts dive into the importance of accountability, transparency, and responsible usage of AI-enabled tools to protect the artistic and entertainment industry. They balance these considerations with that of still being able to democratize the field for underrepresented communities. You can connect with Christopher and Kieran on LinkedIn and view all the great work they do for the Glen Echo Group by visiting the firm’s website or following the Glen Echo Group on <a href="https://twitter.com/glenechogroup?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">social media</a>. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! Resources Referenced: <ul> <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/sensei/generative-ai/firefly.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Adobe Firefly</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/charlie-brooker-chatgpt-black-mirror-episode-exclusive-image/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Charlie Brooker on Generative AI</a></li> <li>Google’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepDream" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">DeepDream</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.stateofthenet.org/sotn-23/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">State of the Net Conference Series</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.wgacontract2023.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Writer’s Guild of America (WGA) Strike</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.sagaftra.org/member-message-strike-authorization-vote" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) Strike Letter</a></li></ul>DISCLAIMER: Lama, Christopher, and Kieran engaged with this episode by the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama, Christopher, and Kieran are affiliated, associated, or work with.

Will Art Survive In the Age of Generative AI? With Kieran Henstenburg and Christopher Shannon [S4E19]

Hodan Omaar

Gillian Diebold

Charley Snyder

The rollout of generative AI has helped illustrate how transformative AI technology can be. But the emergence of AI shouldn't be surprising since it's been implemented across sectors for years. This episode's discussion centers around the various artificial intelligence use cases in a number of verticals.In this conversation moderated by Foundry Fellow Alvaro Marañon, Hodan Omaar (ITIF), Charley Snyder, (Google), and Gillian Diebold (ITIF) discuss how artificial intelligence has been developed and deployed in various industries from enhancing organizational cybersecurity to modernizing public education. For more on artificial intelligence use cases, check out the full discussion here. Stay tuned for more updates to come on the Foundry's annual Policy Hackathon!Resources mentioned in the episode:  NIST Google - Secure AI Framework Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) OSTP’s request for information on national priorities for AICheck out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Alvaro engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in his personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Alvaro works for or is affiliated with.

The rollout of generative AI has helped illustrate how transformative AI technology can be. But the emergence of AI shouldn't be surprising since it's been implemented across sectors for years. This episode's discussion centers around the various artificial intelligence use cases in a number of verticals. In this conversation moderated by Foundry Fellow Alvaro Marañon, Hodan Omaar (ITIF), Charley Snyder, (Google), and Gillian Diebold (ITIF) discuss how artificial intelligence has been developed and deployed in various industries from enhancing organizational cybersecurity to modernizing public education.  For more on artificial intelligence use cases, check out the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJf3F2AqMA&amp;pp=ygUpYXJ0aWZpY2lhbCBpbnRlbGxpZ2VuY2UgdXNlIGNhc2VzIGZvdW5kcnk%3D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">full discussion here</a>. Stay tuned for more updates to come on the Foundry's annual Policy Hackathon! Resources mentioned in the episode: <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nist.gov/itl/ai-risk-management-framework" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NIST</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/introducing-googles-secure-ai-framework/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Google - Secure AI Framework</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP)</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/OSTP-Request-for-Information-National-Priorities-for-Artificial-Intelligence.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OSTP’s request for information on national priorities for AI</a></li></ul>Check out the Foundry on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Twitter</a>, or<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show,<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Alvaro engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in his personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Alvaro works for or is affiliated with.

Artificial Intelligence Use Cases with Gillian Diebold, Hodan Omaar, & Charley Snyder [S4E18]

Eric Goldman

What does Meta's Threads product mean for the future of social media? Reema dives into this and the current state of social media with Professor Eric Goldman, one of the world's leading experts on social media and the law. They discuss how the fediverse works and the pros and cons of decentralizing social media. Professor Goldman explores how content moderation impacts the potential proliferation of decentralizing social media platforms, and vice versa.They also cover how interoperability online interacts with competition concerns, and what this means for social media users' experience. Plus, stay tuned for Professor Goldman's favorite piece of advice to his students at SCU law.Eric Goldman is a Professor of Law and Co-Director of the High Tech Law Institute at Santa Clara University School of Law. Follow him on LinkedIn or his many other social media platforms (@ericgoldman).Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema works for or is affiliated with.

What does Meta's Threads product mean for the future of social media? Reema dives into this and the current state of social media with Professor Eric Goldman, one of the world's leading experts on social media and the law. They discuss how the fediverse works and the pros and cons of decentralizing social media. Professor Goldman explores how content moderation impacts the potential proliferation of decentralizing social media platforms, and vice versa. They also cover how interoperability online interacts with competition concerns, and what this means for social media users' experience. Plus, stay tuned for Professor Goldman's favorite piece of advice to his students at SCU law. Eric Goldman is a Professor of Law and Co-Director of the High Tech Law Institute at Santa Clara University School of Law. Follow him on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericgoldman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> or his many other social media platforms (<a href="https://twitter.com/ericgoldman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@ericgoldman</a>). Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Reema works for or is affiliated with.

Decentralizing Social Media with Eric Goldman [S4E17]

Many have called for AI regulation, but existing IP laws already apply to generative AI because they protect the original works of authorship used to train foundational models. In this conversation moderated by Foundry Fellow Ekene Chuks-Okeke, IP experts Elena Gurevich (Center for Art Law, EG Legal Services) Franklin Graves (HCA Healthcare, Creator Economy Law) and Juyoun Han (Eisenberg &amp; Baum, LLP) discuss the relationship between copyright and AI, artists perspectives, nuances of pending litigation, current guidance from the US Copyright Office, and how the values of artists and creatives in the marketplace can and will shape the future of generative AI.

Artificial Intelligence and Intellectual Property [S4E16]

Allyson McReynolds

This week Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Allyson McReynolds, a recent graduate from George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School and currently a Legal Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation. Prior to law school, Allyson worked in the U.S. House of Representatives as a Legislative Assistant advising on homeland security, technology, and judiciary policy. In law school she held internships at the Federal Communications Commission, US Senate, and Future of Privacy Forum. She is a member of the Fourth Class of Foundry Fellows and serves as the Communications Director. Meri and Allyson chat about Allyson’s work on the Capitol Hill, her interests and internships in the field of privacy and cybersecurity, Allyson’s engagement with the Foundry and how to maximize your time at law school. Resources mentioned in the episode:  FCBA (The Tech Bar) Wilson Center Congressional Fellowships Cybercon 2022Connect with Allyson McReynolds on LinkedIn here; https://www.linkedin.com/in/allyson-mcreynolds-a69485121/Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri is affiliated with.

This week Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Allyson McReynolds, a recent graduate from George Mason University Antonin Scalia Law School and currently a Legal Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation. Prior to law school, Allyson worked in the U.S. House of Representatives as a Legislative Assistant advising on homeland security, technology, and judiciary policy. In law school she held internships at the Federal Communications Commission, US Senate, and Future of Privacy Forum. She is a member of the Fourth Class of Foundry Fellows and serves as the Communications Director.  Meri and Allyson chat about Allyson’s work on the Capitol Hill, her interests and internships in the field of privacy and cybersecurity, Allyson’s engagement with the Foundry and how to maximize your time at law school.  <h4>Resources mentioned in the episode:</h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.fcba.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FCBA</a> (The Tech Bar)</li> <li><a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/fellowships" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wilson Center Congressional Fellowships</a></li> <li><a href="https://youtu.be/CFoqmQmsh34" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cybercon 2022</a></li></ul>Connect with Allyson McReynolds on LinkedIn here; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/allyson-mcreynolds-a69485121/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/allyson-mcreynolds-a69485121/</a> Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri is affiliated with.

From the Hill to the Bar: A Path to Cyberlaw with Allyson McReynolds [S4E15]

In this episode, Foundry Fellow Dyllan Brown-Bramble chats with Micaela Mantegna, Bikalpa Neupane, and Adil Islam. Dyllan and the panelists cover the basic who, what, when, where and why of artificial intelligence.The conversation panel discussed what AI is, its future, and their thoughts on the pros and cons of AI technology.This event is the first in a series of AI-related events leading up to our Fourth Annual Policy Hackathon. The Hackathon will be held this September 22-24th. Check out the latest information about the Hackathon on our website at or on our social media.The experts that joined the episode:  Micaela Mantegna - Micaela is an activist and scholar, known for her extensive work and public advocacy on AI and XR ethics, video games, generative AI, creativity and copyright.  Currently, she is a TED Fellow and an affiliate at the Berkman Klein Center at Harvard. She is also a member of the Chatham House AITask Force. She was part of the external red team that contributed to evaluate OpenAI’s DALL·E 2 Preview in 2022. In addition, she collaborated with the Argentinian government in drafting the AI ethics and regulation chapter of Argentina’s National AI Plan in 2019. After 6 years of research, she published her first book “ARTficial: creativity, artificial intelligence and copyright” in 2022.   Dr. Bikalpa Neupane - Bikalpa is the Head of AI and NLP at Takeda Pharmaceuticals, one of the largest R&amp;D driven pharmaceuticals in the world. In his role, he manages distributed teams in US and Europe, and provides ‘AI-ML-NLP’ and ‘Experimentation as a service’ to several business units. He is from Nepal and he received his PhD degree in Informatics with focus on AI and ML discrimination from Penn State University. He teaches at several universities in areas of advanced data analytics, natural language processing and data mining.   Adil Islam - Adil is the Chief of Staff at Stability.ai, one of the leading companies behind the generative AI revolution. He also works on girls’ education in Pakistan, deploying AI applications for students at Karachi's largest public girls’ school. In the past, Adil led the product and business organization at Petuum, an MLOps startup.

In this episode, Foundry Fellow Dyllan Brown-Bramble chats with Micaela Mantegna, Bikalpa Neupane, and Adil Islam. Dyllan and the panelists cover the basic who, what, when, where and why of artificial intelligence. The conversation panel discussed what AI is, its future, and their thoughts on the pros and cons of AI technology. This event is the first in a series of AI-related events leading up to our Fourth Annual Policy Hackathon. The Hackathon will be held this September 22-24th. Check out the latest information about the Hackathon on our website at or on our social media. <h4>The experts that joined the episode:</h4> <ul> <li>Micaela Mantegna - Micaela is an activist and scholar, known for her extensive work and public advocacy on AI and XR ethics, video games, generative AI, creativity and copyright.  Currently, she is a TED Fellow and an affiliate at the Berkman Klein Center at Harvard. She is also a member of the Chatham House AITask Force. She was part of the external red team that contributed to evaluate OpenAI’s DALL·E 2 Preview in 2022. In addition, she collaborated with the Argentinian government in drafting the AI ethics and regulation chapter of Argentina’s National AI Plan in 2019. After 6 years of research, she published her first book “ARTficial: creativity, artificial intelligence and copyright” in 2022.</li> </ul> <ul> <li>Dr. Bikalpa Neupane - Bikalpa is the Head of AI and NLP at Takeda Pharmaceuticals, one of the largest R&amp;D driven pharmaceuticals in the world. In his role, he manages distributed teams in US and Europe, and provides ‘AI-ML-NLP’ and ‘Experimentation as a service’ to several business units. He is from Nepal and he received his PhD degree in Informatics with focus on AI and ML discrimination from Penn State University. He teaches at several universities in areas of advanced data analytics, natural language processing and data mining.</li> </ul> <ul> <li>Adil Islam - Adil is the Chief of Staff at <a href="http://stability.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Stability.ai</a>, one of the leading companies behind the generative AI revolution. He also works on girls’ education in Pakistan, deploying AI applications for students at Karachi's largest public girls’ school. In the past, Adil led the product and business organization at Petuum, an MLOps startup.</li></ul>

Artificial Intelligence 101 [S4E14]

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow Lama Mohammed interviews Pamela San Martín, Board Member of the Oversight Board to discuss the success, lessons learned, and the cases filed from their latest Annual Report.They dig into issues concerning content moderation, human rights, global elections, misinformation, and more hot-button topics mentioned in the report.As a former lawyer and Electoral Councilor at the National Electoral Institute in Mexico, Pamela has dedicated her career to advancing human rights, freedom of expression, and democratic institutions, aiding her role as a consultant on elections, democracy, and human rights. You can learn more about Pamela by following her on Twitter.Lama is a member of the 4th Class of Foundry Fellows. She currently works as a Senior Associate at the Glen Echo Group in Washington, DC — a communications and public relations firm specializing in tech policy. At the Glen Echo Group, Lama works on policy and communications within artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, and privacy.Connect with Pamela (@SnMartinPamela) on Twitter or LinkedIn and view all the work the Oversight Board has done in the last year and plans to do in the next year by reading the Oversight Board report online.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!Resources Referenced: Oversight Board 2022 Annual Report Register to Vote (United States) Election Dates &amp; Deadlines (United States) World Trends in Freedom of Expression and Media Development: Global Report 2017/2018DISCLAIMER: Lama engages with The Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama is affiliated with.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-lama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lama Mohammed</a> interviews Pamela San Martín, Board Member of the Oversight Board to discuss the success, lessons learned, and the cases filed from their latest Annual Report. They dig into issues concerning content moderation, human rights, global elections, misinformation, and more hot-button topics mentioned in the report. As a former lawyer and Electoral Councilor at the National Electoral Institute in Mexico, Pamela has dedicated her career to advancing human rights, freedom of expression, and democratic institutions, aiding her role as a consultant on elections, democracy, and human rights. You can learn more about Pamela by following her on Twitter. Lama is a member of the 4th Class of Foundry Fellows. She currently works as a Senior Associate at the Glen Echo Group in Washington, DC — a communications and public relations firm specializing in tech policy. At the Glen Echo Group, Lama works on policy and communications within artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, and privacy. Connect with Pamela (<a href="https://twitter.com/snmartinpamela?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@SnMartinPamela</a>) on Twitter or LinkedIn and view all the work the Oversight Board has done in the last year and plans to do in the next year by reading the Oversight Board report <a href="https://oversightboard.com/news/560960906211177-2022-annual-report-oversight-board-reviews-meta-s-changes-to-bring-fairness-and-transparency-to-its-platforms/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">online</a>. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! Resources Referenced: <ul> <li><a href="https://oversightboard.com/news/560960906211177-2022-annual-report-oversight-board-reviews-meta-s-changes-to-bring-fairness-and-transparency-to-its-platforms/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Oversight Board 2022 Annual Report</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.usa.gov/voter-registration" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Register to Vote (United States)</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.usvotefoundation.org/state-election-dates-and-deadlines" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Election Dates &amp; Deadlines (United States)</a></li> <li><a href="https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000261065" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">World Trends in Freedom of Expression and Media Development: Global Report 2017/2018</a></li></ul>DISCLAIMER: Lama engages with The Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama is affiliated with.

Catching Up with the Oversight Board: Reporting on Content Moderation, Elections & Human Rights with Pamela San Martín [S4E13]

Sally Costerton

Welcome back! In this episode, Joe Catapano, ILPF Class 4 fellow interviews Sally Costerton, Interim President &amp; CEO of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). In addition to its core technical functions of coordinating the Internet’s unique identifiers, ICANN is one of the premier global multistakeholder policy making bodies that help govern the Internet.As ICANN approaches its 77th Public Meeting in Washington, DC Joe and Sally discuss challenges to the multistakeholder model of Internet governance, hosting effective global hybrid meetings, Sally’s career path that led her to the world of tech policy, and much more. After you listen, register for ICANN77 (virtual registration available only after June 7, 2023). Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Foundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - registration is now open here!Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

Welcome back! In this episode, Joe Catapano, ILPF Class 4 fellow interviews Sally Costerton, Interim President &amp; CEO of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). In addition to its core technical functions of coordinating the Internet’s unique identifiers, ICANN is one of the premier global multistakeholder policy making bodies that help govern the Internet. As ICANN approaches its 77th Public Meeting in Washington, DC Joe and Sally discuss challenges to the multistakeholder model of Internet governance, hosting effective global hybrid meetings, Sally’s career path that led her to the world of tech policy, and much more.  After you listen, <a href="https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann77" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">register for ICANN77</a> (virtual registration available only after June 7, 2023).  Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Foundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/foundry-trivia-and-mixer-night-2023-tickets-631147799057?aff=ebdssbdestsearch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">registration is now open here!</a> Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

Collaborating for a Secure, Stable Internet: A Conversation with ICANN’s Sally Costerton [S4E12]

This week, Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Fellow Class 4 Fellow Ayden Férdeline.Meri and Ayden chat about the multiple hats Ayden wears in the Internet Governance ecosystem, the Global Digital Compact, the roles of various stakeholders in this space and the avenues to create your own opportunities.Ayden Férdeline is a Landecker Democracy Fellow with the support of the Alfred Landecker Foundation and Humanity in Action. He monitors the development of the UN Secretary-General’s proposed Global Digital Compact ahead of 2024’s Summit of the Future. Ayden was previously a rapporteur with the Forum on Information and Democracy. He also was a technology policy fellow with the Mozilla Foundation.Resources mentioned in the episode:  “Influencing the Internet: Democratizing the Politics that Shape Internet Governance Norms and Standards” (National Democratic Institute, 2022) Global Digital Compact  CircleID The Register Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Foundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - registration is now open here!Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri  is affiliated with.

This week, Class 4 Fellow and Fellow Highlights series host Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Fellow Class 4 Fellow Ayden Férdeline. Meri and Ayden chat about the multiple hats Ayden wears in the Internet Governance ecosystem, the Global Digital Compact, the roles of various stakeholders in this space and the avenues to create your own opportunities. Ayden Férdeline is a Landecker Democracy Fellow with the support of the Alfred Landecker Foundation and Humanity in Action. He monitors the development of the UN Secretary-General’s proposed Global Digital Compact ahead of 2024’s Summit of the Future. Ayden was previously a rapporteur with the Forum on Information and Democracy. He also was a technology policy fellow with the Mozilla Foundation. <h4>Resources mentioned in the episode:</h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.ndi.org/publications/influencing-internet-democratizing-politics-shape-internet-governance-norms-and" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“Influencing the Internet: Democratizing the Politics that Shape Internet Governance Norms and Standards” </a>(National Democratic Institute, 2022)</li> <li><a href="https://www.un.org/techenvoy/global-digital-compact" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Global Digital Compact </a></li> <li><a href="https://circleid.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CircleID</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Register </a></li></ul>Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Foundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/foundry-trivia-and-mixer-night-2023-tickets-631147799057?aff=ebdssbdestsearch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">registration is now open here!</a> Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri  is affiliated with.

Rethinking Multistakerholderism in Internet Governance with Ayden Férdeline [S4E11]

Albert Fox Cahn

Welcome back to the show! Reema's out this week - so our editor, Evan Enzer, subbed in for a conversation with Albert Fox Cahn of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project (S.T.O.P.) on the intersections of speech, gaming and civil rights.Evan and Albert talk about what they've been working on over the last few months. They begin with Albert's long career path from big law to public interest tech policy, why S.T.O.P. is interested in gaming and civil rights, and whether content moderation is an effective way to stop online harassment. Then, they discuss S.T.O.P.'s priority legislation in New York. They also talk about the Wheel of Time and how new professionals can get involved with S.T.O.P..Resources:  Behind the Screen: Content Moderation in the Shadows of Social Mediaby Sarah T. Roberts Banned for Being (STOP's video game report) STOP's board for new professionals Volunteer with STOP The Wheel of Time by Robert JordanFoundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - registration is now open here!Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

Welcome back to the show! Reema's out this week - so our editor, Evan Enzer, subbed in for a conversation with Albert Fox Cahn of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project (S.T.O.P.) on the intersections of speech, gaming and civil rights. Evan and Albert talk about what they've been working on over the last few months. They begin with Albert's long career path from big law to public interest tech policy, why S.T.O.P. is interested in gaming and civil rights, and whether content moderation is an effective way to stop online harassment. Then, they discuss S.T.O.P.'s priority legislation in New York. They also talk about the Wheel of Time and how new professionals can get involved with S.T.O.P.. Resources: <ul> <li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300261479/behind-the-screen/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Behind the Screen: Content Moderation in the Shadows of Social Media by Sarah T. Roberts</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.stopspying.org/banned-for-being" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Banned for Being</a> (STOP's video game report)</li> <li><a href="https://www.stopspying.org/juniorboard" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">STOP's board for new professionals</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.stopspying.org/volunteer" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Volunteer with STOP</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Eye-World-Wheel-Time-Book/dp/0812511816" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan</a></li></ul>Foundry Trivia is on June 12 in Washington D.C. - <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/foundry-trivia-and-mixer-night-2023-tickets-631147799057?aff=ebdssbdestsearch" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">registration is now open here!</a> Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!

Gaming and Civil Rights with Albert Fox Cahn [S4E10]

On the Tech Policy Grind Podcast, we discuss the most pressing issues at the intersection of law and technology. We chat with friends and fellows of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry about their perspectives on emerging topics in tech law and policy. From AI to cybersecurity, internet governance, privacy, and more - join us weekly to dig into the latest in tech policy!The Tech Policy Grind was created by Fellows from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. The Foundry is a collaborative organization for Internet law and policy professionals who are passionate about disruptive innovation.Reema Moussa is our host and executive producer. Evan Enzer is our editor, Daniela Guzman Peña produces the show, Lama Mohammed is our social and promotional coordinator, and our accessibility coordinator is Allyson McReynolds.If you’re interested in supporting the show, reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.ilpfoundry.us

Talha Baig

Welcome back! This week, Reema sits down with Talha Baig, co-host of the Trust in Tech podcast and former AI Integrity engineer at Meta. Reema and Talha chat about developments in generative AI and how it affects trust and safety online and get into the weeds on how AI is applied in the integrity space - and the implications of AI on the integrity space itself.Talha also describes how integrity engineers differ in function from other technical teams, and their relationship with the legal and policy world. They ponder the question: does trust and safety need a regulator? Then, they dig into the Trust in Tech podcast and what Talha is up to at the Integrity Institute.Resources mentioned in the episode:  Trust in Tech Podcast Ranking by Engagement: Tom Cunningham How Streaming Hurt Hollywood Writers: The Daily Mushtaq Khan on using institutional economics to predict effective government reforms: 80,000 Hours Podcast Happy City: Transforming Our Lives Through Urban Design by Charles Montgomery The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy, and the Life of John Maynard Keynes by Zachary D. CarterCheck out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode. And get ready for Foundry Trivia on June 12 in Washington D.C.!DISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air are not reflective of the organizations Reema is affiliated with.

Welcome back! This week, Reema sits down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/talha-baig/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Talha Baig</a>, co-host of the Trust in Tech podcast and former AI Integrity engineer at Meta. Reema and Talha chat about developments in generative AI and how it affects trust and safety online and get into the weeds on how AI is applied in the integrity space - and the implications of AI on the integrity space itself. Talha also describes how integrity engineers differ in function from other technical teams, and their relationship with the legal and policy world. They ponder the question: does trust and safety need a regulator? Then, they dig into the Trust in Tech podcast and what Talha is up to at the Integrity Institute. Resources mentioned in the episode: <ul> <li><a href="https://integrityinstitute.org/podcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Trust in Tech Podcast</a></li> <li><a href="https://integrityinstitute.org/blog/ranking-by-engagement" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ranking by Engagement:</a> Tom Cunningham</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/05/podcasts/the-daily/tv-wga-writers-strike.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How Streaming Hurt Hollywood Writers: The Daily</a></li> <li><a href="https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/mushtaq-khan-institutional-economics/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mushtaq Khan on using institutional economics to predict effective government reforms: 80,000 Hours Podcast</a></li> <li><a href="https://happycities.com/the-book" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Happy City: Transforming Our Lives Through Urban Design</a> by Charles Montgomery</li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Price-Peace-Democracy-Maynard-Keynes/dp/0525509038" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy, and the Life of John Maynard Keynes</a> by Zachary D. Carter</li></ul>Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode. And get ready for Foundry Trivia on June 12 in Washington D.C.! DISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air are not reflective of the organizations Reema is affiliated with.

AI Integrity with Talha Baig [S4E09]

Ellen Magallanes

This week Meri chatted with Class 4 Fellow Ellen Magallanes on her experience in privacy and at the Wikimedia Foundation.Ellen is a dual-qualified US-Australian attorney and a Senior Counsel at the Wikimedia Foundation. Privacy law, like all the best rabbit holes, was something she fell into and never looked back. Now, Ellen furthers her interest in privacy with tech law advocacy in both of her homes: Australia and the US. They dig into her move from Australia to the US, her work at Wikimedia, and the challenges and wonders of tech policy advocacy and product counseling. Then, Ellen reflects on her journey to her current role and highlights the importance of experimenting to discover one’s passion and interests. She also covers taking the CIPP/US exam from IAPP.Find and connect with Ellen Magallanes on LinkedIn here!Resources mentioned in the episode:  The Model Minority Myth in Tech [S3E05] Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O’Neill  Dare to Lead by Brene Brown  Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown  You’re Invited by Jon Levy Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! And get ready - we have some exciting Foundry news coming soon...DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air are not reflective of the organizations Meri is affiliated with.

This week Meri chatted with Class 4 Fellow Ellen Magallanes on her experience in privacy and at the Wikimedia Foundation. Ellen is a dual-qualified US-Australian attorney and a Senior Counsel at the Wikimedia Foundation. Privacy law, like all the best rabbit holes, was something she fell into and never looked back. Now, Ellen furthers her interest in privacy with tech law advocacy in both of her homes: Australia and the US.  They dig into her move from Australia to the US, her work at Wikimedia, and the challenges and wonders of tech policy advocacy and product counseling. Then, Ellen reflects on her journey to her current role and highlights the importance of experimenting to discover one’s passion and interests. She also covers taking the CIPP/US exam from IAPP. Find and connect with Ellen Magallanes <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellenmagallanes/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on LinkedIn here</a>! Resources mentioned in the episode: <ul> <li><a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/podcast/the-model-minority-myth-in-tech-episode-5/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Model Minority Myth in Tech [S3E05]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/28186015" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Weapons of Math Destruction</a> by Cathy O’Neill </li> <li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40109367-dare-to-lead?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=CZb3JVEnTu&amp;rank=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dare to Lead</a> by Brene Brown </li> <li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34565022-braving-the-wilderness?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Braving the Wilderness</a> by Brene Brown </li> <li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54870199-you-re-invited?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=8rvWm90qCu&amp;rank=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">You’re Invited</a> by Jon Levy </li></ul>Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! And get ready - we have some exciting Foundry news coming soon... DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air are not reflective of the organizations Meri is affiliated with.

Connecting the Dots Backwards with Ellen Magallanes [S4E08]

Ashkhen Kazaryan

We are back with our next fellow highlight episode. Class 4 Fellow Meri Baghdasaryan sits down with Ashkhen Kazaryan, a tech policy expert and a former Foundry Fellow. Ashkhen manages policy projects related to free speech, content moderation, surveillance reform, and the intersection of constitutional rights and technology. Currently, she is a Senior Fellow at Stand Together on the Free Speech and Peace team. She leads the development and execution of Stand Together’s strategy to defend free speech online and to promote a culture of pluralism.Prior to that, she was a Content Policy Manager on the Content Regulation team at Meta. She covered content policy for North and Latin America, as well as leading on policy for Section 230. Before joining Meta, she was the Director of Civil Liberties at TechFreedom where she managed coalition-building and hosted The Tech Policy Podcast. Ashkhen is regularly featured as an expert commentator in news outlets, including CNBC, BBC, FOX DC, Newsy, Politico, Axios, The Information, Protocol, The Washington Examiner, and others.Meri and Ashkhen chat about how Ashkhen’s educational and cultural background impacted her journey into tech policy. They discuss the tech policy issues that are top of mind for Ashkhen. She also covers finding your path in the field of tech law and policy and the importance of building community. You can connect with Ashkhen on LinkedIn and Twitter. Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter! If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!Additional Resources and Reading:Podcasts:The Tech Policy Podcast Moderated ContentUniversity Centers:Stanford Internet Observatory Berkeley Tech Policy Initiative Yale Information Society Project Harvard Berkman Klein Center Cornell Tech Policy Institute New York University Engelberg Center on Innovation Law and Policy UC Boulder Silicon Flatirons Georgetown Center on Privacy and Technology Columbia University Knight First Amendment Institute George Washington University Law School Ethical Tech Initiative American University Center for Security, Innovation and New Technology UPenn Center for Technology, Innovation &amp; CompetitionThink Tanks:ACLU Center for Democracy and Technology Public Knowledge New America Open Technology Institute TechFreedom R Street Chamber of Progress NetChoice CCIACases to read about:Gonzalez v. Google Twitter v. Taamneh Netchoice CCIA v Moody Netchoice CCCIA v PaxtonDISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri  is affiliated with.

We are back with our next fellow highlight episode. Class 4 Fellow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meribaghdasaryan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Meri Baghdasaryan</a> sits down with Ashkhen Kazaryan, a tech policy expert and a former Foundry Fellow.  Ashkhen manages policy projects related to free speech, content moderation, surveillance reform, and the intersection of constitutional rights and technology. Currently, she is a Senior Fellow at <a href="https://standtogether.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stand Together</a> on the Free Speech and Peace team. She leads the development and execution of Stand Together’s strategy to defend free speech online and to promote a culture of pluralism. Prior to that, she was a Content Policy Manager on the Content Regulation team at Meta. She covered content policy for North and Latin America, as well as leading on policy for Section 230. Before joining Meta, she was the Director of Civil Liberties at <a href="https://techfreedom.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TechFreedom</a> where she managed coalition-building and hosted The Tech Policy Podcast. Ashkhen is regularly featured as an expert commentator in news outlets, including CNBC, BBC, FOX DC, Newsy, Politico, Axios, The Information, Protocol, The Washington Examiner, and others. Meri and Ashkhen chat about how Ashkhen’s educational and cultural background impacted her journey into tech policy. They discuss the tech policy issues that are top of mind for Ashkhen. She also covers finding your path in the field of tech law and policy and the importance of building community.  You can connect with Ashkhen on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashkhenkazaryan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Ashkhen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter.</a>  Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! <h4>Additional Resources and Reading:</h4>Podcasts: <a href="http://podcast.techfreedom.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Tech Policy Podcast</a> <a href="https://law.stanford.edu/directory/evelyn-douek/moderated-content/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Moderated Content</a> University Centers: <a href="https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stanford Internet Observatory</a> <a href="https://citrispolicylab.org/techpolicyinitiative/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Berkeley Tech Policy Initiative</a> <a href="https://law.yale.edu/isp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Yale Information Society Project</a> <a href="https://cyber.harvard.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harvard Berkman Klein Center</a> <a href="https://www.tpi.as.cornell.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cornell Tech Policy Institute</a> <a href="https://nyuengelberg.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New York University Engelberg Center on Innovation Law and Policy</a> <a href="https://siliconflatirons.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">UC Boulder Silicon Flatirons</a> <a href="https://www.law.georgetown.edu/privacy-technology-center/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Georgetown Center on Privacy and Technology</a> <a href="https://knightcolumbia.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Columbia University Knight First Amendment Institute</a> <a href="https://blogs.gwu.edu/law-eti/the-initatives/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">George Washington University Law School Ethical Tech Initiative</a> <a href="https://www.american.edu/sis/centers/security-technology/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">American University Center for Security, Innovation and New Technology</a> <a href="https://www.law.upenn.edu/institutes/ctic/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">UPenn Center for Technology, Innovation &amp; Competition</a> Think Tanks: <a href="https://www.aclu.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ACLU</a> <a href="https://cdt.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Center for Democracy and Technology</a> <a href="https://publicknowledge.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Public Knowledge</a> <a href="https://www.newamerica.org/oti/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New America Open Technology Institute</a> <a href="https://techfreedom.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TechFreedom</a> <a href="https://www.rstreet.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">R Street</a> <a href="https://progresschamber.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chamber of Progress</a> <a href="https://netchoice.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NetChoice</a> <a href="https://ccianet.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CCIA</a> Cases to read about: <a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/gonzalez-v-google-llc/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gonzalez v. Google</a> <a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/twitter-inc-v-taamneh/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter v. Taamneh</a> <a href="https://netchoice.org/netchoice-ccia-v-moody/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Netchoice CCIA v Moody</a> <a href="https://netchoice.org/netchoice-and-ccia-v-paxton-resource-page/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Netchoice CCCIA v Paxton</a> DISCLAIMER: Meri engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect on the organizations Meri  is affiliated with.

Finding the Tech Policy Community with Ashkhen Kazaryan [S4E07]

Kirk Nahra

Jordan Wrigley

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! Today, class is in session for Health Privacy 101 with Jordan Wrigley and Kirk Nahra.In May 2022, the leaked SCOTUS decision overturning Roe v. Wade shocked the nation. About a month later, the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case officially overturned the constitutional right to abortion. Last year, we talked with EFF’s Eva Galperin on the Tech Policy Grind about how technology could amplify surveillance on women’s reproductive health in a Post-Dobbs world. Around the same time, The Federal Trade Commission, the White House, civil society, industry, and lots of other stakeholders got to thinking - what is the role of digital privacy and security in protecting women from being prosecuted by their state or local governments for receiving life-saving care?In this episode, we revisit that subject, under a broader lens. Reema sits down with Kirk Nahra, partner and co-chair of the privacy and cybersecurity practice at Wilmer Hale, a large international law firm, and Jordan Wrigley, a health privacy researcher at the Future of Privacy Forum, who is leading FPF’s Health Privacy Working Group. Kirk and Jordan are some of the leading health data privacy experts in the country. We get into what the American legal landscape looks like for health privacy, some of the FTC’s recent actions in this space, and more.Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter!If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! Additional Resources and Reading:  BetterHelp Enforcement Action Demonstrates FTC’s Continued Focus on Use and Disclosure of Health Information for Advertising FTC Brings First of its Kind Enforcement Action against GoodRx for Violating the Health Breach Notification Rule Top takeaways from the FTC-GoodRx case: A chat with Kirk NahraDISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect those of the organizations that Reema is affiliated with.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! Today, class is in session for Health Privacy 101 with <a href="https://fpf.org/person/jordan-wrigley/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jordan Wrigley</a> and <a href="https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/people/kirk-nahra" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kirk Nahra</a>. In May 2022, the leaked SCOTUS decision overturning Roe v. Wade shocked the nation. About a month later, the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case officially overturned the constitutional right to abortion. Last year, we talked with EFF’s Eva Galperin <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/podcast/re-imagining-privacy-in-a-post-roe-world-with-eva-galperin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on the Tech Policy Grind</a> about how technology could amplify surveillance on women’s reproductive health in a Post-Dobbs world. Around the same time, The Federal Trade Commission, the White House, civil society, industry, and lots of other stakeholders got to thinking - what is the role of digital privacy and security in protecting women from being prosecuted by their state or local governments for receiving life-saving care? In this episode, we revisit that subject, under a broader lens. Reema sits down with Kirk Nahra, partner and co-chair of the privacy and cybersecurity practice at Wilmer Hale, a large international law firm, and Jordan Wrigley, a health privacy researcher at the Future of Privacy Forum, who is leading FPF’s Health Privacy Working Group. Kirk and Jordan are some of the leading health data privacy experts in the country. We get into what the American legal landscape looks like for health privacy, some of the FTC’s recent actions in this space, and more. Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a><a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. <h4>Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!</h4> <h4>Additional Resources and Reading:</h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-privacy-and-cybersecurity-law/20230307-betterhelp-enforcement-action-demonstrates-ftcs-continued-focus-on-use-and-disclosure-of-health-information-for-advertising" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BetterHelp Enforcement Action Demonstrates FTC’s Continued Focus on Use and Disclosure of Health Information for Advertising</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/blogs/wilmerhale-privacy-and-cybersecurity-law/20230203-ftc-brings-first-of-its-kind-enforcement-action-against-goodrx-for-violating-the-health-breach-notification-rule" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FTC Brings First of its Kind Enforcement Action against GoodRx for Violating the Health Breach Notification Rule</a></li> <li><a href="https://iapp.org/news/a/top-takeaways-from-the-ftc-goodrx-case-a-chat-with-kirk-nahra/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Top takeaways from the FTC-GoodRx case: A chat with Kirk Nahra</a></li></ul>DISCLAIMER: Reema engages with the Foundry voluntarily and in her personal capacity. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect those of the organizations that Reema is affiliated with.

Health Privacy 101 with Jordan Wrigley and Kirk Nahra [S4E06]

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! In this episode, we hit the road once again for our North American tour of some major tech policy conferences. This time, we head to the ICANN76 Community Forum in Cancún, Mexico, the Women in Cybersecurity (WiCyS) 2023 Conference in Denver, Colorado, and the IAPP Global Privacy Summit in Washington DC.The ICANN76 Community Forum is the 76th ICANN Meeting since ICANN's inception in 1998. Reema chats with Cindyneia Cantanhêde, a Brazilian data privacy attorney based in Sao Paulo, who was at the conference as an ICANN Fellow (along with Reema).The WiCyS Conference brings together women in cybersecurity to dig into substantive, technical conversations on what's going on in the field. But it also is a space for women (who only represent 25% of the cybersecurity industry) and allies to connect and get inspired about retention and advancement in the field. Reema chats with Lynn Dohm, Executive Director of WiCyS about the conference's history and goals. Then, she talks to Anna Lainfiesta, Security Team Lead at Zendesk about her experience as a WiCyS conference first-timer. Anna is also the Secretary of the WiCyS Privacy, Law and Policy Affiliate.Finally, Reema and Lama head to the Global Privacy Summit, where they led a session (along with Foundry Fellow Meri Baghdasaryan). Lama catches up with Leona Lewis, Senior Counsel, Privacy, Ethics and Compliance at Thrasio; Saleela Khanum Salahuddin, Attorney Advisor at Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB); and former Foundry Fellow Jacqueline Ahn, Senior Attorney of Data Privacy at IBM.Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter!If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Lama and Reema engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations Lama and Reema are affiliated with.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind! In this episode, we hit the road once again for our North American tour of some major tech policy conferences. This time, we head to the ICANN76 Community Forum in Cancún, Mexico, <a href="https://www.wicys.org/events/wicys-2023/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the Women in Cybersecurity (WiCyS) 2023 Conference</a> in Denver, Colorado, and the IAPP Global Privacy Summit in Washington DC. The <a href="https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann76" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ICANN76 Community Forum</a> is the 76th ICANN Meeting since ICANN's inception in 1998. Reema chats with Cindyneia Cantanhêde, a Brazilian data privacy attorney based in Sao Paulo, who was at the conference as an <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/icann76-fellowship-participants-2022-11-07-en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ICANN Fellow</a> (along with Reema). The <a href="https://www.wicys.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WiCyS</a> Conference brings together women in cybersecurity to dig into substantive, technical conversations on what's going on in the field. But it also is a space for women (who only represent 25% of the cybersecurity industry) and allies to connect and get inspired about retention and advancement in the field. Reema chats with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynndohm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lynn Dohm</a>, Executive Director of WiCyS about the conference's history and goals. Then, she talks to Anna Lainfiesta, Security Team Lead at Zendesk about her experience as a WiCyS conference first-timer. Anna is also the Secretary of the <a href="https://www.wicys.org/data-privacy-policy-and-law-affiliate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WiCyS Privacy, Law and Policy Affiliate</a>. Finally, Reema and Lama head to the Global Privacy Summit, where they led a session (along with Foundry Fellow Meri Baghdasaryan). Lama catches up with Leona Lewis, Senior Counsel, Privacy, Ethics and Compliance at Thrasio; Saleela Khanum Salahuddin, Attorney Advisor at Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB); and former Foundry Fellow Jacqueline Ahn, Senior Attorney of Data Privacy at IBM. Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a><a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. <h4>Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!</h4>DISCLAIMER: Lama and Reema engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations Lama and Reema are affiliated with.

The TPG North American Tour: the Foundry Takes ICANN76, WiCyS ’23, and IAPP’s Global Privacy Summit [S4E05]

Lama Mohammed

Last season we started a tradition of featuring old and current Foundry Fellows in an episode spotlight. In this episode, we bring this tradition back with Class 4 Fellow Lama Mohammed kicking off the Foundry Fellows Highlight series for Season Four, covering her career path and DIY creation of a her own "tech policy major" at American University!Class 4 Fellow and Tech Policy Grind host, editor and producer Reema Moussa sits down with Lama during the IAPP GPS Conference. You've heard her on the show before, but we get into her background. She spends her 9-5 as a Senior Associate at the Glen Echo Group. Glen Echo Group is a Washington, DC-based public affairs and public relations firm specializing in technology policy.Reema chats with Lama about her journey, including how Lama embarked on her technology policy career pathway while at AU, her work for The Foundry and All Tech Is Human, her hopes for the future and more!You can connect with Lama on LinkedIn. Check out the Foundry on Instagram, Twitter, or LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter!If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!  Resources Referenced:   Capitol CoLAB SPA Tech Policy AssociationDISCLAIMER: Lama and Reema engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations Lama and Reema are affiliated with.

Last season we started a tradition of featuring old and current Foundry Fellows in an episode spotlight. In this episode, we bring this tradition back with Class 4 Fellow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-lama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lama Mohammed</a> kicking off the Foundry Fellows Highlight series for Season Four, covering her career path and DIY creation of a her own "tech policy major" at American University!<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> Class 4 Fellow and Tech Policy Grind host, editor and producer <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reemamoussa" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Reema Moussa</a> sits down with Lama during the IAPP GPS Conference. You've heard her on the show before, but we get into her background. She spends her 9-5 as a Senior Associate at the <a href="https://www.glenechogroup.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glen Echo Group.</a> Glen Echo Group is a Washington, DC-based public affairs and public relations firm specializing in technology policy.<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> Reema chats with Lama about her journey, including how Lama embarked on her technology policy career pathway while at AU, her work for The Foundry and <a href="https://alltechishuman.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">All Tech Is Human</a>, her hopes for the future and more!<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> You can connect with Lama on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-lama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn.</a> Check out the Foundry on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ilpfoundry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and subscribe to our <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/connect/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">newsletter!</a><a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a> <h4>Resources Referenced:<a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Lama-Mohammed-—-TPG-Fellow-Highlights-Graphic.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a></h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://greaterwashingtonpartnership.com/capital-colab/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Capitol CoLAB</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/SPACyber" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SPA Tech Policy Association</a></li></ul>DISCLAIMER: Lama and Reema engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on air do not reflect the organizations Lama and Reema are affiliated with.

A DIY Tech Policy Major: Fellow Highlight with Lama Mohammed [S4E04]

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law and Policy Foundry! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow Lama Mohammed chats with new Foundry Fellows Ekene Chuks-Okeke, an LLM student in the Law, Technology &amp; Entrepreneurship program at Cornell Tech, and Lili Siri Spira, the Social Media and Campaign Marketing Manager for the TechEquity Collaborative — a nonprofit focusing on socioeconomic inequities in the tech industry.They get into their backgrounds, induction to Foundry as new Foundry Fellows, experience at State of the Net and more!You can connect with Ekene (@ipcybrmediagrl) and Lili (@lilisirispira) on Twitter or LinkedIn and view all the great work they will bring to the Foundry by following us on social media or subscribing to our newsletter.Resources Referenced:  All Tech Is Human Class Five State of the Net RecapTo learn more about the Foundry, check out ilpfoundry.us and follow us on social media (LinkedIn and Twitter @ILPFoundry).If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode!DISCLAIMER: Lama, Ekene and Lili engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama, Ekene and Lili are affiliated, associated or work with.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law and Policy Foundry! In this episode, Class 4 Fellow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohammed-lama/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lama Mohammed</a> chats with new Foundry Fellows <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekeneco" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ekene Chuks-Okeke</a>, an LLM student in the Law, Technology &amp; Entrepreneurship program at <a href="https://www.tech.cornell.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cornell Tech</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilisirispira" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lili Siri Spira</a>, the Social Media and Campaign Marketing Manager for the <a href="https://techequitycollaborative.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TechEquity Collaborative</a> — a nonprofit focusing on socioeconomic inequities in the tech industry. They get into their backgrounds, induction to Foundry as new Foundry Fellows, experience at State of the Net and more! You can connect with Ekene (<a href="https://twitter.com/ipcybrmediagrl" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@ipcybrmediagrl</a>) and Lili (<a href="https://twitter.com/lilisirispira" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@lilisirispira</a>) on Twitter or LinkedIn and view all the great work they will bring to the Foundry by following us on social media or subscribing to our newsletter. <h4>Resources Referenced:</h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://alltechishuman.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">All Tech Is Human</a></li> <li><a href="https://medium.com/@ILPFoundry/state-of-the-net-2023-takeaways-on-trust-safety-ai-cybersecurity-privacy-and-infrastructure-9da1633637cb" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Class Five State of the Net Recap</a></li></ul>To learn more about the Foundry, check out <a href="http://ilpfoundry.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ilpfoundry.us</a> and follow us on social media (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter @ILPFoundry</a>). If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for our next episode! DISCLAIMER: Lama, Ekene and Lili engage with the Foundry voluntarily and in their personal capacities. The views and opinions expressed on this show do not reflect the organizations and institutions Lama, Ekene and Lili are affiliated, associated or work with.

Welcome to Our New Foundry Fellows: the Next Generation of Tech Policy Professionals [S4E03]

We're back with Part 2 of our State of the Net series, and this week we're chatting kids privacy and what's going on with Section 230!In this episode, Reema and Joe talk digital privacy and safety issues for children with Natalie Campbell (Internet Society). Then, Reema chats with Matt Perault (University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill) and Yaël Eisenstat (Anti-Defamation League) on Section 230 and the current landscape of platform liability.In case you missed last week, for the past (nearly) two decades, the State of the Net Conference has served as the convening point for tech policy professionals to chart a course forward for the tech policy decisions of the future. We were there to chat with tech policy experts on their takes on the latest digital issues of the day.Section 230 shields platforms (like Google, Meta, and others) from liability for the unlawful content their users may post. Yaël and Matt dig into the recent oral arguments heard before the Supreme Court and legislative developments on changing 230.To learn more about the Foundry, check out ilpfoundry.us and follow us on social media (LinkedIn and Twitter @ILPFoundry).If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Disclaimer: Reema, Joe, and the Foundry Fellows engage with the Foundry in their personal capacities. Their views here aren't reflective of those of the organizations and institutions they're affiliated with.

We're back with Part 2 of our State of the Net series, and this week we're chatting kids privacy and what's going on with Section 230! In this episode, Reema and Joe talk digital privacy and safety issues for children with <a href="https://www.internetsociety.org/author/ncampbell/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Natalie Campbell</a> (Internet Society). Then, Reema chats with <a href="https://sils.unc.edu/people/faculty/profiles/Matt-Perault" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Matt Perault</a> (University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill) and <a href="https://www.yaeleisenstat.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Yaël Eisenstat</a> (Anti-Defamation League) on Section 230 and the current landscape of platform liability. In case you missed last week, for the past (nearly) two decades, the State of the Net Conference has served as the convening point for tech policy professionals to chart a course forward for the tech policy decisions of the future. We were there to chat with tech policy experts on their takes on the latest digital issues of the day. Section 230 shields platforms (like Google, Meta, and others) from liability for the unlawful content their users may post. Yaël and Matt dig into the recent oral arguments heard before the Supreme Court and legislative developments on changing 230. To learn more about the Foundry, check out <a href="http://ilpfoundry.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ilpfoundry.us</a> and follow us on social media (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter @ILPFoundry</a>). If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. Disclaimer: Reema, Joe, and the Foundry Fellows engage with the Foundry in their personal capacities. Their views here aren't reflective of those of the organizations and institutions they're affiliated with.

Digital Safety and That Section 230 Thing – Conversations from State of the Net (Part 2) [S4E02]

We're back with new episodes every Thursday for Season 4 of the Tech Policy Grind! And if you couldn't tell, we're really excited about what's to come. To kick off the season, we hit the road and headed to the State of the Net Conference, where tech policy professionals have convened annually for nearly two decades to collectively look towards all that lies on the horizon in the wild world that is tech policy.For Part 1 of our conversations at State of the Net, we sit down with Alan Davidson (NTIA), Bertram Lee Jr. (Future of Privacy Forum), and Patrick Lin (Latham &amp; Watkins). Alan Davidson sits down with Reema to talk about NTIA's efforts to connect Americans to the web. Bertram Lee Jr. talks about the intersections of AI legislation and privacy principles. Rounding out this episode is a conversation with Patrick Lin, who digs into the fascinating issues emerging in copyright and digital rights around generative AI.Make sure to tune in next week for Part 2 of our State of the Net conversations!To learn more about the Foundry, check out ilpfoundry.us and follow us on social media (LinkedIn and Twitter @ILPFoundry).If you’d like to support the show, donate to the Foundry here or reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us.Disclaimer: Reema and Lama engage with the Foundry in their personal capacities. Their views here aren't reflective of those of the organizations and institutions they're affiliated with.

We're back with new episodes every Thursday for Season 4 of the Tech Policy Grind! And if you couldn't tell, we're really excited about what's to come. To kick off the season, we hit the road and headed to the State of the Net Conference, where tech policy professionals have convened annually for nearly two decades to collectively look towards all that lies on the horizon in the wild world that is tech policy. For Part 1 of our conversations at State of the Net, we sit down with Alan Davidson (NTIA), Bertram Lee Jr. (Future of Privacy Forum), and Patrick Lin (Latham &amp; Watkins). Alan Davidson sits down with Reema to talk about NTIA's efforts to connect Americans to the web. Bertram Lee Jr. talks about the intersections of AI legislation and privacy principles. Rounding out this episode is a conversation with Patrick Lin, who digs into the fascinating issues emerging in copyright and digital rights around generative AI. Make sure to tune in next week for Part 2 of our State of the Net conversations! To learn more about the Foundry, check out <a href="http://ilpfoundry.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ilpfoundry.us</a> and follow us on social media (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/internet-law-&amp;-policy-foundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/ILPFoundry" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter @ILPFoundry</a>). If you’d like to support the show, <a href="https://www.ilpfoundry.us/donate/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate to the Foundry here</a> or reach out to us at <a href="mailto:foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us">foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us</a>. Disclaimer: Reema and Lama engage with the Foundry in their personal capacities. Their views here aren't reflective of those of the organizations and institutions they're affiliated with.

What’s Going on with the Web? Conversations from State of the Net 2023 (Part 1) [S4E01]

Adam Kovacevich

Carl Szabo

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. In this episode, Joe Catapano chats with Adam Kovacevich, Chamber of Progress and Carl Szabo, NetChoice on whether the U.S. can, will, or should ban TikTok. There are many options being discussed from an outright ban on the app, to divestiture and audits of TikTok’s algorithms. Take a listen to hear from two of DC’s experts in tech policy on whether the U.S. can ban TikTok. Note: We recorded this episode on January 12, 2023. It does not reflect any developments after that date. You can connect with Adam on Twitter @adamkovac, and Carl @carlszabo. Visit https://progresschamber.org/ for more information on the Chamber of Progress and https://netchoice.org/ for more information on NetChoice.Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for Season 4 this coming March!Joe participates in the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry in his personal capacity. Any commentary in this podcast is his alone and does not reflect the views of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. ICANN is a technical organization and does not deal with matters related to content, apps, or anything outside of the Internet’s unique identifiers as outlined in its mission.

Welcome back to the Tech Policy Grind Podcast by the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. In this episode, Joe Catapano chats with Adam Kovacevich, Chamber of Progress and Carl Szabo, NetChoice on whether the U.S. can, will, or should ban TikTok. There are many options being discussed from an outright ban on the app, to divestiture and audits of TikTok’s algorithms.  Take a listen to hear from two of DC’s experts in tech policy on whether the U.S. can ban TikTok.  Note: We recorded this episode on January 12, 2023. It does not reflect any developments after that date.  You can connect with Adam on Twitter @adamkovac, and Carl @carlszabo. Visit <a href="https://progresschamber.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://progresschamber.org/</a> for more information on the Chamber of Progress and <a href="https://netchoice.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://netchoice.org/</a> for more information on NetChoice. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned for Season 4 this coming March! Joe participates in the Internet Law &amp; Policy Foundry in his personal capacity. Any commentary in this podcast is his alone and does not reflect the views of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. ICANN is a technical organization and does not deal with matters related to content, apps, or anything outside of the Internet’s unique identifiers as outlined in its <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en#:~:text=Section%201.1.-,MISSION,(the%20%22Mission%22)." rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mission</a>.

Will the U.S. Ban TikTok? With Adam Kovacevich and Carl Szabo [S4E00]

Thoughtful and insightful, the podcast does a phenomenal job of breaking down emerging issues in tech law and policy. The hosts are personable and friendly, and ask the guests great clarifying questions about the more nuanced details of topics that listeners may not be as familiar with. As a recent graduate who is extremely interested in getting into tech policy, I particularly appreciate the standard questions to guests about how they started working in tech law/policy and what books they are reading. I also think it would be great if they continued featuring bonus episodes when possible (like those from SOTN) - I would love to hear more from other conferences, talks, etc. I believe they show the scope of dialogues in the tech policy world, and give listeners a peek into what goes on in those dialogues even if they are not able to attend themselves. Can’t wait for next season!

Highly recommend!

The range of interviews and topics covered is incredible! I highly recommend this podcast if you want to keep up-to-date on recent developments in tech law &amp; policy or just listen in about awesome work attorneys are doing in the space. Keep up the great work!

Killer podcast for technology law & policy!

On the Tech Policy Grind Podcast, we discuss the most pressing issues at the intersection of law and technology. We chat with friends and fellows of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry about their perspectives on emerging topics in tech law and policy. From AI to cybersecurity, internet governance, privacy, and more - join us weekly to dig into the latest in tech policy! The Tech Policy Grind was created by Fellows from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. The Foundry is a collaborative organization for Internet law and policy professionals who are passionate about disruptive innovation. Reema Moussa is our host and executive producer. Evan Enzer is our editor, Daniela Guzman Peña produces the show, Lama Mohammed is our social and promotional coordinator, and our accessibility coordinator is Allyson McReynolds. If you’re interested in supporting the show, reach out to us at foundrypodcasts@ilpfoundry.us. <a href="http://ilpfoundry.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ilpfoundry.us</a>

Tech Policy Grind

Hey! You're listening to Tech Policy Grind, and we want to thank you for joining us on this awesome adventure we've been on since launching the show last year. Our release schedule hasn't always been the tightest, our audio quality hasn't always been the most polished, but you've stuck with us as we covered everything from privacy to artificial intelligence, to copyright, to privacy - okay, a lot of privacy talk - but it's been a big year for privacy! Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, The General Data Protection Regulation, more Facebook... Unfortunately Pinal couldn't join us, but today Joe and I are closing out this, the first season of Tech Policy Grind, with a bit of a meandering deep dive into the new California Consumer Protect Act of 2018, YouTube's COPPA problems, and a bit of a retrospective as we look back on almost a year of awesome conversations, and forward to the next.We're going to be going on a bit of a Summer hiatus for the next few months, but don't let that stop you from reaching out to us on twitter @TechPolicyGrind and letting us know what you think of the show. We'd love to hear your thoughts, and especially any ideas for season 2!With that, I'll sign off for the summer, bid you all adieu' and best of luck staying cool - enjoy this wonky privacy talk with Joe Jerome and myself, Emory Roane, on Tech Policy Grind.

Hey! You're listening to Tech Policy Grind, and we want to thank you for joining us on this awesome adventure we've been on since launching the show last year. Our release schedule hasn't always been the tightest, our audio quality hasn't always been the most polished, but you've stuck with us as we covered everything from privacy to artificial intelligence, to copyright, to privacy - okay, a lot of privacy talk - but it's been a big year for privacy! Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, The General Data Protection Regulation, more Facebook... Unfortunately Pinal couldn't join us, but today Joe and I are closing out this, the first season of Tech Policy Grind, with a bit of a meandering deep dive into the new California Consumer Protect Act of 2018, YouTube's COPPA problems, and a bit of a retrospective as we look back on almost a year of awesome conversations, and forward to the next. We're going to be going on a bit of a Summer hiatus for the next few months, but don't let that stop you from reaching out to us on twitter @TechPolicyGrind and letting us know what you think of the show. We'd love to hear your thoughts, and especially any ideas for season 2! With that, I'll sign off for the summer, bid you all adieu' and best of luck staying cool - enjoy this wonky privacy talk with Joe Jerome and myself, Emory Roane, on Tech Policy Grind.

Ending the Season with A Very Wonky California Consumer Privacy Act [S1E20]

Lee Tien

Hey Listeners, welcome to Tech Policy Grind, a project of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. My name is Emory Roane, and today should be a treat for privacy nerds out there! This is another conversation brought to you from the floor of State of the Net 2019 - an internet policy conference held each year in Washington D.C.This is an interview - or really, a "privacy advocates react" to State of the Net - with regular cohost Joe Jerome of the Center for Democracy and Technology, and Lee Tien, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Together, we have a fairly wonky dive into some of the updates and confusion in the California Consumer Privacy Act, and some really interesting discussion about the role predictability should play in policy. We briefly cover the recent Illinois supreme court case Rosenbach v. Six Flags and the importance for the Biometric Information Privacy Act. And of course! We place our bets on whether (or not) we'll see a federal privacy law this year.Honestly it was a real pleasure for me to get to talk to Lee and bring you along for the conversation. Lee is someone who I aspire to be like, he is a brilliant speaker and an expert in all the coolest areas of law. If you like this, and I hope you do, let us know and follow us on twitter @TechPolicyGrind. With nothing else to introduce, I hope you enjoy this conversation with Lee Tien, at State of the Net, 2019.

Hey Listeners, welcome to Tech Policy Grind, a project of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. My name is Emory Roane, and today should be a treat for privacy nerds out there! This is another conversation brought to you from the floor of State of the Net 2019 - an internet policy conference held each year in Washington D.C. This is an interview - or really, a "privacy advocates react" to State of the Net - with regular cohost Joe Jerome of the Center for Democracy and Technology, and Lee Tien, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Together, we have a fairly wonky dive into some of the updates and confusion in the California Consumer Privacy Act, and some really interesting discussion about the role predictability should play in policy. We briefly cover the recent Illinois supreme court case Rosenbach v. Six Flags and the importance for the Biometric Information Privacy Act. And of course! We place our bets on whether (or not) we'll see a federal privacy law this year. Honestly it was a real pleasure for me to get to talk to Lee and bring you along for the conversation. Lee is someone who I aspire to be like, he is a brilliant speaker and an expert in all the coolest areas of law. If you like this, and I hope you do, let us know and follow us on twitter @TechPolicyGrind. With nothing else to introduce, I hope you enjoy this conversation with Lee Tien, at State of the Net, 2019.

CCPA, GDPR, BIPA and more with EFF’s Lee Tien at SOTN2019 [S2E02]

Listeners! We're back! Tech Policy Grind has had a long, relaxing (well, not very relaxing) summer... and fall hiatus - but we're back (and if I'm honest and modest)better than ever, and excited to bring you a batch of new interviews with tech policy nerds, for all you tech policy nerds and aspiring nerds out there.This is Tech Policy Grind, a podcast from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. Every week - oh yeah, that's a thing now - we'll be releasing new interviews and conversations with folks working at the intersection of law and technology. We'll talk about the fascinating work that they're doing, and the lessons they learned along the way.This week, we're starting things off with an interview with an FTC Commissioner! We were so, so lucky to talk with Commissioner Rebecca Slaughter this year at State of the Net, 2019.Listeners from last year may remember that State of the Net is an Internet Policy conference held each year in Washington D.C. by the Internet Education Foundation, the Internet Law and Policy Foundry's parent organization. Over the next few weeks we'll be releasing more interviews from State of the Net where we talked - quite a bit- about privacy - it's kind of a big deal this year. We also talked about platform liability, the California Consumer Privacy Act, and, well, the state of the internet in 2019.This week, though, we talk about things I know next to nothing about, but that makes it all the more fascinating. Commissioner Slaughter tells us what it's like to go through a government shutdown, and we get a lesson on vertical and horizontal mergers - basically, are we thinking about the harms properly when a Google buys a Whatsapp don't at me - and are we holding these big mergers to account after the fact? Antitrust law, it turns out, is awesome. we also, of course, glean any career lessons we can from the Commissioner, who has some tips on how to find not just a mentor, but a champion.Don't forget to follow us on twitter, and consider rating and reviewing us on iTunes if you like the show - it means a lot, and can help make this show a sustaining feature of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry.So! Sit back, or keep doing what you're doing! Keep hustling! it's 2019 - or, 2020 if you're listening to this long after release for some reason. In which case, thank you, you keep doing your thing too, and enjoy a conversation with FTC Commissioner Slaughter at State of the Net 2019.

Listeners! We're back! Tech Policy Grind has had a long, relaxing (well, not very relaxing) summer... and fall hiatus - but we're back (and if I'm honest and modest)better than ever, and excited to bring you a batch of new interviews with tech policy nerds, for all you tech policy nerds and aspiring nerds out there. This is Tech Policy Grind, a podcast from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. Every week - oh yeah, that's a thing now - we'll be releasing new interviews and conversations with folks working at the intersection of law and technology. We'll talk about the fascinating work that they're doing, and the lessons they learned along the way. This week, we're starting things off with an interview with an FTC Commissioner! We were so, so lucky to talk with Commissioner Rebecca Slaughter this year at State of the Net, 2019. Listeners from last year may remember that State of the Net is an Internet Policy conference held each year in Washington D.C. by the Internet Education Foundation, the Internet Law and Policy Foundry's parent organization. Over the next few weeks we'll be releasing more interviews from State of the Net where we talked - quite a bit- about privacy - it's kind of a big deal this year. We also talked about platform liability, the California Consumer Privacy Act, and, well, the state of the internet in 2019. This week, though, we talk about things I know next to nothing about, but that makes it all the more fascinating. Commissioner Slaughter tells us what it's like to go through a government shutdown, and we get a lesson on vertical and horizontal mergers - basically, are we thinking about the harms properly when a Google buys a Whatsapp don't at me - and are we holding these big mergers to account after the fact? Antitrust law, it turns out, is awesome. we also, of course, glean any career lessons we can from the Commissioner, who has some tips on how to find not just a mentor, but a champion. Don't forget to follow us on twitter, and consider rating and reviewing us on iTunes if you like the show - it means a lot, and can help make this show a sustaining feature of the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. So! Sit back, or keep doing what you're doing! Keep hustling! it's 2019 - or, 2020 if you're listening to this long after release for some reason. In which case, thank you, you keep doing your thing too, and enjoy a conversation with FTC Commissioner Slaughter at State of the Net 2019.

State of the Net 2019 – A Conversation with FTC Commissioner Slaughter [S2E01]

Javier Pallermo

All right listeners, This is Tech Policy Grind, a show all about the exciting, occassionally inspiring things happening in internet law and policy - My name is Emory and this week, I'm excited because I get to bring you all along with me to Rightscon 2018, one of the coolest things I've gotten to do in my professional career so far.Rightscon is the world's leading conference on human rights in the digital age, with thousands of attendees, more than 450 panels, hosted over 3 days (4 if you count day zero events) last month in Toronto. I was there this year, Joe Jerome was there too, as well as most everyone that's been on our show so far!Coming up is a two parter - first, you'll hear my conversation with Javier Palero of Access Now before his panel on podcasting as a tool for advocacy. After that, stay tuned for a retrospective with Joe and I - as we talk about some of our favorite panels, the most interesting trends and topics, where we found the best swag and our thoughts on the conference.We've had an absolute blast producing this season of Tech Policy Grind! We're wrapping up with one more show after this before we break for the summer - and we'd love to hear from our listeners before we come back better than ever. You can always reach out to us on twitter, but if you really want to make a difference, please consider leaving a review on iTunes. All right - that's it for intro - now please enjoy my conversation with Javier Pallero and a retrospective on the conference with Joe Jerome at Rightscon 2018.

All right listeners, This is Tech Policy Grind, a show all about the exciting, occassionally inspiring things happening in internet law and policy - My name is Emory and this week, I'm excited because I get to bring you all along with me to Rightscon 2018, one of the coolest things I've gotten to do in my professional career so far. Rightscon is the world's leading conference on human rights in the digital age, with thousands of attendees, more than 450 panels, hosted over 3 days (4 if you count day zero events) last month in Toronto. I was there this year, Joe Jerome was there too, as well as most everyone that's been on our show so far! Coming up is a two parter - first, you'll hear my conversation with Javier Palero of Access Now before his panel on podcasting as a tool for advocacy. After that, stay tuned for a retrospective with Joe and I - as we talk about some of our favorite panels, the most interesting trends and topics, where we found the best swag and our thoughts on the conference. We've had an absolute blast producing this season of Tech Policy Grind! We're wrapping up with one more show after this before we break for the summer - and we'd love to hear from our listeners before we come back better than ever. You can always reach out to us on twitter, but if you really want to make a difference, please consider leaving a review on iTunes. All right - that's it for intro - now please enjoy my conversation with Javier Pallero and a retrospective on the conference with Joe Jerome at Rightscon 2018.

RightsCon 2018: Javier Pallermo and a RightsCon Retrospective [S1E19]

Daphne Keller

Did you know that a little over a week ago the European Union decided to move forward with their latest proposed updates to the EU Copyright Directive, which includes requirements for websites to affirmatively scan for copyrighted content - it's been just about universally lambasted as internet-destroyingly awful - but all signs indicate that the EU is barreling ahead with it. Well, we're not going to talk about *that* today, but something else that's just around the corner in the EU, and is *EVEN WORSE*. It's generically called "terrorist content regulation" and it's Article 13 on steroids, at least according to our guest today. My name is Emory Roane, and you're listening to Tech Policy Grind, a podcast from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. This is another conversation recorded at State of the Net 2019 - this time with the Director of Intermediary Liability at The Center for Internet and Society at Stanford, Daphne Keller. @daphnehkI had a great time talking with Daphne, and I think you'll enjoy this dive into some of the biggest NON-PRIVACY issues facing the internet (I swear there's no privacy talk in this episode at all (or hardly at all))- from the already mentioned terrorist content regulation to the question of whether or not Twitter is - or should be - considered the modern day public square, and what that means for free speech and censorship.I'm going to get right into it, but don't forget to follow us on twitter at @techpolicygrind, as well as the Internet Law and Policy Foundry at @ilpfoundry - we'll be releasing information soon about applying for the next class of fellows - so all you early career professionals listening, and especially any students out there - stay tuned. Now, I hope you enjoy this conversation with Daphne Keller at State of the Net, 2019.

Did you know that a little over a week ago the European Union decided to move forward with their latest proposed updates to the EU Copyright Directive, which includes requirements for websites to affirmatively scan for copyrighted content - it's been just about universally lambasted as internet-destroyingly awful - but all signs indicate that the EU is barreling ahead with it. Well, we're not going to talk about *that* today, but something else that's just around the corner in the EU, and is *EVEN WORSE*. It's generically called "terrorist content regulation" and it's Article 13 on steroids, at least according to our guest today. My name is Emory Roane, and you're listening to Tech Policy Grind, a podcast from the Internet Law and Policy Foundry. This is another conversation recorded at State of the Net 2019 - this time with the Director of Intermediary Liability at The Center for Internet and Society at Stanford, <a href="https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/about/people/daphne-keller" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Daphne Keller</a>. @daphnehk I had a great time talking with Daphne, and I think you'll enjoy this dive into some of the biggest NON-PRIVACY issues facing the internet (I swear there's no privacy talk in this episode at all (or hardly at all))- from the already mentioned terrorist content regulation to the question of whether or not Twitter is - or should be - considered the modern day public square, and what that means for free speech and censorship. I'm going to get right into it, but don't forget to follow us on twitter at @techpolicygrind, as well as the Internet Law and Policy Foundry at @ilpfoundry - we'll be releasing information soon about applying for the next class of fellows - so all you early career professionals listening, and especially any students out there - stay tuned. Now, I hope you enjoy this conversation with Daphne Keller at State of the Net, 2019.

Terrorist Content Regulation: Article 13 on Steroids – A Conversation with Daphne Keller at State of the Net 2019 [S2E03]

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