Deana Haggag

Jay Sanders

This time hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman welcome their team of editorial advisors Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders. They’re the brilliant trio who’ve helped steer this season’s conversations acting as an independent sounding board lending editorial advice and expertise - all essential in the creation of this podcast. This is (almost) the season finale - so time to reflect and look back at some of the surprises, delights and, of course, the many "What Ifs". Listen out in the next few weeks for some special bonus episodes!

This time hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman welcome their team of editorial advisors Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders. They’re the brilliant trio who’ve helped steer this season’s conversations acting as an independent sounding board lending editorial advice and expertise - all essential in the creation of this podcast. This is (almost) the season finale - so time to reflect and look back at some of the surprises, delights and, of course, the many "What Ifs". Listen out in the next few weeks for some special bonus episodes!

The Art World: What If...?! with Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders

Emily Rales

What if we supported artists in taking moonshots?  This week we’re taking a tour around Glenstone museum in Potomac, Maryland - one of the largest and most ambitious private institutions in America, fusing art, architecture and nature. This wide-ranging conversation between Glenstone’s co-founder and director, Emily Rales and host Charlotte Burns covers the art inside the museum and how to create more meaningful visitor experiences, to the Glenstone foundation and future philanthropic plans. “Our values are immutable,” Emily says. “Art is essential to life. And sometimes when I say that to people, they're like, what does that even mean? But I really believe that art is essential to our civilization and to humanity.” She adds: “Long-term defines the way we think. We're not intending to go out guns a-blazing and then sun-setting the foundation within 20 years. We want this to continue to be sustained in perpetuity—and we really mean that.”

What if we supported artists in taking moonshots?  This week we’re taking a tour around Glenstone museum in Potomac, Maryland - one of the largest and most ambitious private institutions in America, fusing art, architecture and nature. This wide-ranging conversation between Glenstone’s co-founder and director, Emily Rales and host Charlotte Burns covers the art inside the museum and how to create more meaningful visitor experiences, to the Glenstone foundation and future philanthropic plans. “Our values are immutable,” Emily says. “Art is essential to life. And sometimes when I say that to people, they're like, what does that even mean? But I really believe that art is essential to our civilization and to humanity.” She adds: “Long-term defines the way we think. We're not intending to go out guns a-blazing and then sun-setting the foundation within 20 years. We want this to continue to be sustained in perpetuity—and we really mean that.”

The Art World: What If...?! Glenstone special, with Emily Rales

What if we made more mess? What if we could sit with discomfort?  This time Charlotte Burns talks to one of her heroes, the artist Pope.L. Probably best known for his public performance art including his legendary crawls, Pope.L has risked his own safety for his work — and he isn’t finished yet. An artist whose practice is as varied as it is profound, Pope.L makes art across media, time and space. He talks to Charlotte about his new work for a major exhibition involving confederacy monuments, about working with institutions and about his goal to make more mess. “Oh man, you know, like removing every wall in a space and just having no differentiated areas," he says. "That would be one way. The other one would probably be the use of outside and inside. Don't make that a differentiation and then have them agree that we'll do the show in winter. That would be fun!”

The Art World: What If...?! with Pope.L

Kathy Halbreich

What if we trusted artists more? This episode Charlotte Burns is joined by Kathy Halbreich, the outgoing director of the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, who’s led some of the most dynamic institutions in the art world. They discuss freedom, finances and what the future holds for museums and those who work in them. “You could not pay me enough money to be a museum director at this point in my life,” says Kathy. “Maybe that's just because I really know what the job is and I think it is one of the most misunderstood and genuinely taxing jobs.”

What if we trusted artists more? This episode Charlotte Burns is joined by Kathy Halbreich, the outgoing director of the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, who’s led some of the most dynamic institutions in the art world. They discuss freedom, finances and what the future holds for museums and those who work in them. “You could not pay me enough money to be a museum director at this point in my life,” says Kathy. “Maybe that's just because I really know what the job is and I think it is one of the most misunderstood and genuinely taxing jobs.”

The Art World: What If...?! with Kathy Halbreich

Allan Schwartzman

Time to take stock this episode with hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman. We look back at some of the big ideas that have emerged throughout the series so far. From change and creativity, to finance and futures, we discuss what’s amazed, delighted—and even filled us with hope. "I think a lot more about excess than abundance," says Allan. "There is a generosity with which the word abundance has been used by a number of the people we've interviewed. I think that that sense of generosity and of abundance comes from an awareness of what the opposite is. And each of these people, in their own way, is either being given power or seizing power — and doing so to create a better world." Tune in for this very special episode.

Time to take stock this episode with hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman. We look back at some of the big ideas that have emerged throughout the series so far. From change and creativity, to finance and futures, we discuss what’s amazed, delighted—and even filled us with hope. "I think a lot more about excess than abundance," says Allan. "There is a generosity with which the word abundance has been used by a number of the people we've interviewed. I think that that sense of generosity and of abundance comes from an awareness of what the opposite is. And each of these people, in their own way, is either being given power or seizing power — and doing so to create a better world." Tune in for this very special episode.

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

Cauleen Smith

Kibum Kim

We’re still in the city of angels for our second special episode asking ‘What if LA is the future?’ Join host, Charlotte Burns, as she drives from the East Side to Korea Town and out to Santa Monica. We visit the studio of artist and filmmaker, Cauleen Smith, whose life and work centers around building a better world. We also drop in on Kibum Kim, partner and co-founder at Commonwealth and Council - a gallery building a supportive community of artists - who wants to challenge the high-speed efficiency of the current art world model. Both embody what it means to live in the realm of possibility. “I guess what I'm doing is always looking to the relatively recent past of models where people really did do things differently quite successfully,” says Cauleen. Tune in, and subscribe, for more.

We’re still in the city of angels for our second special episode asking ‘What if LA is the future?’ Join host, Charlotte Burns, as she drives from the East Side to Korea Town and out to Santa Monica. We visit the studio of artist and filmmaker, Cauleen Smith, whose life and work centers around building a better world. We also drop in on Kibum Kim, partner and co-founder at Commonwealth and Council - a gallery building a supportive community of artists - who wants to challenge the high-speed efficiency of the current art world model. Both embody what it means to live in the realm of possibility. “I guess what I'm doing is always looking to the relatively recent past of models where people really did do things differently quite successfully,” says Cauleen. Tune in, and subscribe, for more.

The Art World: What If...?! LA Special with Cauleen Smith and Kibum Kim

Connie Butler

What if Los Angeles is the future? This episode Charlotte Burns visits the city for the first of two extra special episodes. We’re at the Hammer museum with its Chief curator, Connie Butler, before heading over to meet Sue Bell Yank who’s Executive director at Clockshop. Both are experimenting with how to do things differently and how to make LA a sustainable place to be and to create art. Nowhere encapsulates the need to imagine radical new possibilities more than Los Angeles. “LA is an amazing place to think about what our possible futures could look like,” says Sue Bell Yank. “It's a place that’s at the bleeding edge of a lot of crises, from wildfires to floods. How cultural organizations fit into that is really interesting.” Join us for more.

What if Los Angeles is the future? This episode Charlotte Burns visits the city for the first of two extra special episodes. We’re at the Hammer museum with its Chief curator, Connie Butler, before heading over to meet Sue Bell Yank who’s Executive director at Clockshop. Both are experimenting with how to do things differently and how to make LA a sustainable place to be and to create art. Nowhere encapsulates the need to imagine radical new possibilities more than Los Angeles. “LA is an amazing place to think about what our possible futures could look like,” says Sue Bell Yank. “It's a place that’s at the bleeding edge of a lot of crises, from wildfires to floods. How cultural organizations fit into that is really interesting.” Join us for more.

The Art World: What If...?! LA Special with Connie Butler and Sue Bell Yank

What if it were possible to dream up entirely new things? Join host Charlotte Burns as she interviews one of the most interesting artists working today. American Artist — who changed their name in 2013 — produces deeply thoughtful work that is as enmeshed in digitization and technology as it is history and alternate realities. American talks about how their art tackles police violence in the US. They also discuss a newer body of work centering on the life and writings of sci-fi novelist, Octavia E. Butler. American says their work is ultimately hopeful: “If I didn’t feel strongly that things could change I wouldn’t even bother. But I want everyone else to try as hard as I do.”

What if it were possible to dream up entirely new things? Join host Charlotte Burns as she interviews one of the most interesting artists working today. American Artist — who changed their name in 2013 — produces deeply thoughtful work that is as enmeshed in digitization and technology as it is history and alternate realities. American talks about how their art tackles police violence in the US. They also discuss a newer body of work centering on the life and writings of sci-fi novelist, Octavia E. Butler. American says their work is ultimately hopeful: “If I didn’t feel strongly that things could change I wouldn’t even bother. But I want everyone else to try as hard as I do.”

The Art World: What If...?! with American Artist

Rashida Bumbray

This episode, Charlotte Burns is joined by Rashida Bumbray whose career straddles different realms within culture. A choreographer and curator, Rashida aims to create new spaces of imagination, empowerment, and connection. While the data and the daily realities of the art world can reflect a scarcity, Rashida’s work—notably the recent organization of artist Simone Leigh’s Loophole of Retreat Summit in Venice—reflects an abundance that is intergenerational, interdisciplinary, and inspirational. This summit represented new possibilities, showing the way to new futures through history, excellence, and potential. A giant 'What If' made real.  Subscribe for more.

This episode, Charlotte Burns is joined by Rashida Bumbray whose career straddles different realms within culture. A choreographer and curator, Rashida aims to create new spaces of imagination, empowerment, and connection. While the data and the daily realities of the art world can reflect a scarcity, Rashida’s work—notably the recent organization of artist Simone Leigh’s Loophole of Retreat Summit in Venice—reflects an abundance that is intergenerational, interdisciplinary, and inspirational. This summit represented new possibilities, showing the way to new futures through history, excellence, and potential. A giant 'What If' made real.  Subscribe for more.

The Art World: What If...?! with Rashida Bumbray

Paul Chan

In this episode, we get into some of the biggest What Ifs —about virtue and value, about life and loss. Host Charlotte Burns is joined by one of the most thoughtfully provocative (or cunning, as he’d say), artists of our time,  Paul Chan. He made his name in the early 2000s with film and media works, and by 2008 had found significant success. Then, he stopped making art. Now he’s back with a show called Paul Chan: Breathers, where, influenced by sky-dancers, he literally shapes air. He says “Maybe one way to talk about pleasure is a capacity to control our own time. Time may be the only non-human thing I really care about losing. I can lose everything. I think I've lost everything. I'm willing to lose it all, but I'm not willing to lose time, and that to me is more precious than anything else.”

In this episode, we get into some of the biggest What Ifs —about virtue and value, about life and loss. Host Charlotte Burns is joined by one of the most thoughtfully provocative (or cunning, as he’d say), artists of our time,  Paul Chan. He made his name in the early 2000s with film and media works, and by 2008 had found significant success. Then, he stopped making art. Now he’s back with a show called Paul Chan: Breathers, where, influenced by sky-dancers, he literally shapes air. He says “Maybe one way to talk about pleasure is a capacity to control our own time. Time may be the only non-human thing I really care about losing. I can lose everything. I think I've lost everything. I'm willing to lose it all, but I'm not willing to lose time, and that to me is more precious than anything else.”

The Art World: What If...?! with Paul Chan

What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor. Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series.From the team behind In Other Words and Hope &amp; Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman&amp; for Art&amp; and produced by Studio Burns.

This is the first art podcast I found and started to listen to. It is by far, still my favorite. Charlotte Burns so seamlessly bring the entire world of art into my phone. I feel completely informed about artists, museums, art purchasing, curating, auction houses, and fairs. Thank you for loving art!

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What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor. Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series. From the team behind In Other Words and Hope &amp; Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman&amp; for Art&amp; and produced by Studio Burns.

The Art World: What If...?!

Jerry Saltz

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, which was recorded in the downtown offices of New York magazine, Saltz talks about a range of topics: from how he approaches viewing and reviewing art, to what he calls the “ass-holeness” of his social media persona.  Before becoming a critic, Saltz was an artist and a long-distance truck driver, and he discusses the benefits of being a late-bloomer. He defines what great art means to him and describes a recent exhibition of work by an artist who could be the “strongest to emerge this century in America." We are, he says, “living in a crisis and it’s time to look at the art of the present. I want to see what artists say now.” Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-jerry-saltz/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, which was recorded in the downtown offices of New York magazine, Saltz talks about a range of topics: from how he approaches viewing and reviewing art, to what he calls the “ass-holeness” of his social media persona.  Before becoming a critic, Saltz was an artist and a long-distance truck driver, and he discusses the benefits of being a late-bloomer. He defines what great art means to him and describes a recent exhibition of work by an artist who could be the “strongest to emerge this century in America." We are, he says, “living in a crisis and it’s time to look at the art of the present. I want to see what artists say now.” Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-jerry-saltz/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-jerry-saltz/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, The Art of Criticism with Jerry Saltz

Roberta Smith

“By now, I’m kind of an opinion machine,” says Roberta Smith, co-chief art critic for The New York Times in this special podcast recording with our host Charlotte Burns. “I would say all art that’s middling-to-great is a strike for freedom; is an expression of liberty,” Smith says. “It’s somebody asserting themselves in a new way. And that kind of newness, you can hear it in jazz, you can see it in painting. Most of us have the potential for newness.” Smith, who says she once “really thought about becoming a dealer”, talks about art today and her writing. She discusses the ways in which criticism and the media have changed—though her role (“I want to help people see art and have a new appreciation of what they’re seeing”) has remained essentially the same. Since she began writing in 1972, the readers have been, she says, “the engine in my work”. “Whatever gripes you have with the art world—and we all have them—it’s the most open it’s ever been,” she says. “I can't imagine writing in any other time than this, when there's this kind of explosion.” For this and much more, tune in today. Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-roberta-smith/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

“By now, I’m kind of an opinion machine,” says Roberta Smith, co-chief art critic for The New York Times in this special podcast recording with our host Charlotte Burns. “I would say all art that’s middling-to-great is a strike for freedom; is an expression of liberty,” Smith says. “It’s somebody asserting themselves in a new way. And that kind of newness, you can hear it in jazz, you can see it in painting. Most of us have the potential for newness.” Smith, who says she once “really thought about becoming a dealer”, talks about art today and her writing. She discusses the ways in which criticism and the media have changed—though her role (“I want to help people see art and have a new appreciation of what they’re seeing”) has remained essentially the same. Since she began writing in 1972, the readers have been, she says, “the engine in my work”. “Whatever gripes you have with the art world—and we all have them—it’s the most open it’s ever been,” she says. “I can't imagine writing in any other time than this, when there's this kind of explosion.” For this and much more, tune in today. Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-roberta-smith/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-roberta-smith/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Shop with Roberta Smith

David Zwirner

“I really felt ten years ago that there was a huge opportunity for me at different levels in the art world,” says David Zwirner, whose eponymous gallery opened in New York more than 25 years ago, has since expanded to London and Hong Kong and is increasingly focusing on its online strategy. “Of course, expansion fuels expansion,” he says. “At the same time, I think there's a huge risk. There's definitely a ‘too big’ possible.” In conversation with Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP and a chairman of Sotheby's) and our host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words), Zwirner discusses the future of the business and the state of the market—and talks about what he is looking for in the next generation of artists. For more, tune in today. Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-david-zwirner/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

“I really felt ten years ago that there was a huge opportunity for me at different levels in the art world,” says David Zwirner, whose eponymous gallery opened in New York more than 25 years ago, has since expanded to London and Hong Kong and is increasingly focusing on its online strategy. “Of course, expansion fuels expansion,” he says. “At the same time, I think there's a huge risk. There's definitely a ‘too big’ possible.” In conversation with Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP and a chairman of Sotheby's) and our host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words), Zwirner discusses the future of the business and the state of the market—and talks about what he is looking for in the next generation of artists. For more, tune in today. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-david-zwirner/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-david-zwirner/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, David Zwirner Needs No Introduction

Glenn Lowry

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for whom? How do we imagine someone else's voice?” In this wide-ranging conversation, Lowry describes the museum as a crucible during a ”very flammable moment” and talks about the role of culture today. He discusses technology at the museum and the value of thinking slowly. Talking with host Charlotte Burns, Lowry covers various topics including MoMA’s expansion, the possibilities of closer institutional collaboration, the importance of anxiety—and lots more besides.  Transcript:  http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-22-transcript-glenn-lowry/ "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for whom? How do we imagine someone else's voice?” In this wide-ranging conversation, Lowry describes the museum as a crucible during a ”very flammable moment” and talks about the role of culture today. He discusses technology at the museum and the value of thinking slowly. Talking with host Charlotte Burns, Lowry covers various topics including MoMA’s <a href="https://www.moma.org/about/who-we-are/our-building-project" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">expansion</a>, the possibilities of closer institutional collaboration, the importance of anxiety—and lots more besides.  Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-22-transcript-glenn-lowry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-22-transcript-glenn-lowry/</a> "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://www.audiation.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The Future of The Museum”. Our guests included Michael Govan, director, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA); Doryun Chong, deputy director and chief curator, M+ in Hong Kong; and Allan Schwartzman. The panel was introduced by Kevin Ching, CEO of Sotheby’s Asia and moderated by Charlotte Burns.  Joining us remotely was Budi Tek, the founder of the Yuz Museum and Foundation, Shanghai, who broke the news of an unprecedented collaboration between Yuz and LACMA. This opened a discussion about the increasing willingness of museum directors and private patrons to collaborate and share. Our panelists also spoke about where innovation is taking place geographically; about cultural norms and how they manifest differently region to region; and about new technologies, such as augmented reality, and how they might impact museums and exhibition making. These are, of course, just a few of the topics covered. Tune in for the rest.  Transcript:  http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-the-future-of-the-museum-2/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The Future of The Museum”. Our guests included Michael Govan, director, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA); Doryun Chong, deputy director and chief curator, M+ in Hong Kong; and Allan Schwartzman. The panel was introduced by Kevin Ching, CEO of Sotheby’s Asia and moderated by Charlotte Burns.  Joining us remotely was Budi Tek, the founder of the Yuz Museum and Foundation, Shanghai, who broke the news of an unprecedented collaboration between Yuz and LACMA. This opened a discussion about the increasing willingness of museum directors and private patrons to collaborate and share. Our panelists also spoke about where innovation is taking place geographically; about cultural norms and how they manifest differently region to region; and about new technologies, such as augmented reality, and how they might impact museums and exhibition making. These are, of course, just a few of the topics covered. Tune in for the rest.  Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-the-future-of-the-museum-2/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-the-future-of-the-museum-2/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, The Future Of The Museum

The Museum of Modern Art reopens this month after a $450m expansion that has added more than 47,000 sq. ft and many new galleries that tell a different story of modern and contemporary art.  In this podcast, AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman and In Other Words host Charlotte Burns review the radical rehang of the permanent collection.  Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-68-live-review-from-the-new-moma/ "In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

The Museum of Modern Art reopens this month after a $450m expansion that has added more than 47,000 sq. ft and many new galleries that tell a different story of modern and contemporary art.  In this podcast, AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman and In Other Words host Charlotte Burns review the radical rehang of the permanent collection. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-68-live-review-from-the-new-moma/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-68-live-review-from-the-new-moma/</a> "In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Our First Impressions of the New MoMA

Christopher Y. Lew

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or deal with the times we live in,” says Christopher Y. Lew, co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial, who talks about his travels across America researching emerging art for the biennial. For a transcript of the show, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew-talks-emerging-art/ "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or deal with the times we live in,” says Christopher Y. Lew, co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial, who talks about his travels across America researching emerging art for the biennial. For a transcript of the show, click here: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew-talks-emerging-art/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew-talks-emerging-art/</a> "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://www.audiation.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew

Lisa Phillips

Named “the most powerful woman in the New York art world” by The New York Times, Lisa Phillips has been the director of the New Museum of Contemporary Art since 1999. On today’s show, she talks about the future of the museum—from the current $85m capital campaign to the ways in which Phillips sees the institution moving beyond bricks and mortar—with host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP and Sotheby’s chairman)—who was a founding staff member at the New Museum, hired as a curator aged 19. Founded in 1977, the museum recently celebrated its 40th anniversary. Phillips and Schwartzman discuss the “spirit of the new” in art, and talk about power—what it means, who has it and how it might better be redefined. Phillips, who was formerly a curator at the Whitney Museum of American Art, discusses the forces that are shaping museums—such as technology and shifting demographics—and how to respond to them. Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/lisa-phillips/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Named “the most powerful woman in the New York art world” by The New York Times, Lisa Phillips has been the director of the New Museum of Contemporary Art since 1999. On today’s show, she talks about the future of the museum—from the current $85m capital campaign to the ways in which Phillips sees the institution moving beyond bricks and mortar—with host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP and Sotheby’s chairman)—who was a founding staff member at the New Museum, hired as a curator aged 19. Founded in 1977, the museum recently celebrated its 40th anniversary. Phillips and Schwartzman discuss the “spirit of the new” in art, and talk about power—what it means, who has it and how it might better be redefined. Phillips, who was formerly a curator at the Whitney Museum of American Art, discusses the forces that are shaping museums—such as technology and shifting demographics—and how to respond to them. Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/lisa-phillips/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/lisa-phillips/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Power with New Museum Director Lisa Phillips

Gavin Brown

For the sixth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Gavin Brown, who founded his eponymous gallery Gavin Brown's enterprise in 1994. Together with Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman of Sotheby’s Fine Arts Division, and our host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, their wide-ranging discussion covers how we define value in art, the effect of the market on traditional gallery models, and the importance of art in turbulent times. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For a full transcript, visit: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-6/

For the sixth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Gavin Brown, who founded his eponymous gallery Gavin Brown's enterprise in 1994. Together with Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman of Sotheby’s Fine Arts Division, and our host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, their wide-ranging discussion covers how we define value in art, the effect of the market on traditional gallery models, and the importance of art in turbulent times. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>. For a full transcript, visit: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-6/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-6/</a>

The Art World: In Other Words, Hypercapitalization, with Gavin Brown and Allan Schwartzman

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this presents. Bringing different perspectives to the conversation, they discuss how to create change and foster innovation. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For a transcript, click here:  http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smith-allan-schwartzman/

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this presents. Bringing different perspectives to the conversation, they discuss how to create change and foster innovation. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://www.audiation.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>. For a transcript, click here: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smith-allan-schwartzman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smith-allan-schwartzman/</a>

The Art World: In Other Words, The Suit and the Sweater

Andy Warhol

Andy Warhol is one of the best-known—but perhaps least understood—artists of the 20th century. “Warhol shifted the paradigm. He shifted the conversation. That's why we're still grappling with him. Love him or hate him,” says Donna De Salvo, the senior curator and deputy director for International Initiatives at the Whitney Museum of American Art, who recently organized the blockbuster exhibition "Andy Warhol—From A to B and Back Again" (on show now at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, until 2 September). Beyond the glamour of the celebrity and consumerism so often associated with Warhol, there is something destabilizing about his work, says Dominique Lévy, the co-founder of Lévy Gorvy—which is showing “Warhol Women” in New York (until 15 June). “If you spend enough time in front of a Warhol painting, little by little it unnerves you,” Lévy says. When people fetishize the trophy of the Marilyn, they're missing a certain point of the way that Warhol is constantly disrupting,” De Salvo says: “Whether it's the off registration of the screen, through the color, through the scale, the multiplicity of images. He's not about a fixed image. He's actually quite the opposite and that gets to issues of identity.” Together with host Charlotte Burns, Lévy and De Salvo discuss the radical aspects of Warhol's work, discussing how much of it is still undervalued and under-appreciated—particularly drawings from the 1950s and works from the 1970s and 1980s. “He reinvents himself and becomes more and more conceptual, and more and more relevant,” Lévy says. “His project ends because he dies,” De Salvo says: "He was just getting going again." Ultimately, she says, Warhol “reflected these twin American desires, which are at odds: our desire to innovate and our desire to conform.” For this and more, tune in today. Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-warhols-women/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Andy Warhol is one of the best-known—but perhaps least understood—artists of the 20th century. “Warhol shifted the paradigm. He shifted the conversation. That's why we're still grappling with him. Love him or hate him,” says Donna De Salvo, the senior curator and deputy director for International Initiatives at the Whitney Museum of American Art, who recently organized the blockbuster exhibition "Andy Warhol—From A to B and Back Again" (on show now at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, until 2 September). Beyond the glamour of the celebrity and consumerism so often associated with Warhol, there is something destabilizing about his work, says Dominique Lévy, the co-founder of Lévy Gorvy—which is showing “Warhol Women” in New York (until 15 June). “If you spend enough time in front of a Warhol painting, little by little it unnerves you,” Lévy says. When people fetishize the trophy of the Marilyn, they're missing a certain point of the way that Warhol is constantly disrupting,” De Salvo says: “Whether it's the off registration of the screen, through the color, through the scale, the multiplicity of images. He's not about a fixed image. He's actually quite the opposite and that gets to issues of identity.” Together with host Charlotte Burns, Lévy and De Salvo discuss the radical aspects of Warhol's work, discussing how much of it is still undervalued and under-appreciated—particularly drawings from the 1950s and works from the 1970s and 1980s. “He reinvents himself and becomes more and more conceptual, and more and more relevant,” Lévy says. “His project ends because he dies,” De Salvo says: "He was just getting going again." Ultimately, she says, Warhol “reflected these twin American desires, which are at odds: our desire to innovate and our desire to conform.” For this and more, tune in today. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-warhols-women/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-60-warhols-women/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Andy Warhol: Sex, Death, Beauty and Disaster

Chrissie Iles

Carolyn Ramo

Hamza Walker

Where is the great art being made in America today? In this episode, our guests Chrissie Iles (Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz curator at the Whitney Museum of American art), Carolyn Ramo (executive director, Artadia) and Hamza Walker (executive director, LAXART) join our host Charlotte Burns to discuss the subject. They talk about art being made throughout the United States in places outside the major market hubs, as well as ways to broaden the lens through which we view contemporary art in this country. “We're currently in an extremely dynamic moment for emerging artists and for culture,” Iles says in conversation with our other guests, who talk about how collectors and curators might discover—and steward—the art of their region. Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-art-across-america-with-chrissie-iles-carolyn-ramo-and-hamza-walker  “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Where is the great art being made in America today? In this episode, our guests Chrissie Iles (Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz curator at the Whitney Museum of American art), Carolyn Ramo (executive director, Artadia) and Hamza Walker (executive director, LAXART) join our host Charlotte Burns to discuss the subject. They talk about art being made throughout the United States in places outside the major market hubs, as well as ways to broaden the lens through which we view contemporary art in this country. “We're currently in an extremely dynamic moment for emerging artists and for culture,” Iles says in conversation with our other guests, who talk about how collectors and curators might discover—and steward—the art of their region. Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-art-across-america-with-chrissie-iles-carolyn-ramo-and-hamza-walker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-art-across-america-with-chrissie-iles-carolyn-ramo-and-hamza-walker</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Across America, with Chrissie Iles, Carolyn Ramo and Hamza Walker

Germano Celant

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the American art market has defined art history; how they work with artists to realize wildly ambitious projects; the difficulties in determining whether works are authentic; corruption in art; and rewriting the history of art. For this, and much more, tune in today. For a transcript, click here: bit.ly/IOWEp19 "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the American art market has defined art history; how they work with artists to realize wildly ambitious projects; the difficulties in determining whether works are authentic; corruption in art; and rewriting the history of art. For this, and much more, tune in today. For a transcript, click here: <a href="http://bit.ly/IOWEp19" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bit.ly/IOWEp19</a> "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman

Hans Ulrich Obrist

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himself interviewed more than 300 people throughout his career, from artists and architects to scientists and philosophers—talks to our host Charlotte Burns about how art can change the world and shape new realities.  "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For a full transcript, click here:  http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-13-how-art-can-change-the-world/

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himself interviewed more than 300 people throughout his career, from artists and architects to scientists and philosophers—talks to our host Charlotte Burns about how art can change the world and shape new realities.  "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>. For a full transcript, click here: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-13-how-art-can-change-the-world/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-13-how-art-can-change-the-world/</a>

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Can Change the World, with Hans Ulrich Obrist

Joel Shapiro

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his hopes and motivations; and about what, for him, defines great art. “I'm not talking magical thinking—but some level of rapture or depression or some level of emotionality that is not matter of fact, and I think that that's what artists want,” he says. “So when you see something like that, I don't think it's so explicable.” Shapiro, whose art has been exhibited widely around the world—from the roof of the Metropolitan Museum in New York to a recent show at the Kunstmuseum Winterthur in Switzerland—discusses a range of topics, from investing his art with emotion to the importance of color. He talks about the artists who have inspired him and the works he himself has collected. Art, he says, “is a manifestation of the culture, so it's important. It shows you what's going on.” For this, and much more, tune in today. Transcript: http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-joel-shapiro “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his hopes and motivations; and about what, for him, defines great art. “I'm not talking magical thinking—but some level of rapture or depression or some level of emotionality that is not matter of fact, and I think that that's what artists want,” he says. “So when you see something like that, I don't think it's so explicable.” Shapiro, whose art has been exhibited widely around the world—from the roof of the Metropolitan Museum in New York to a recent show at the Kunstmuseum Winterthur in Switzerland—discusses a range of topics, from investing his art with emotion to the importance of color. He talks about the artists who have inspired him and the works he himself has collected. Art, he says, “is a manifestation of the culture, so it's important. It shows you what's going on.” For this, and much more, tune in today. Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-joel-shapiro" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-joel-shapiro</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Magical Thinking with Sculptor Joel Shapiro

Derrick Adams

Nari Ward

“As an artist I feel like it’s my role to bring that moment of history—that moment of doubt, frustration, of fear—into the present,” says Nari Ward in conversation with fellow artist Derrick Adams on this episode of In Other Words. Ward is the subject of a major retrospective at the New Museum (“Nari Ward: We The People” until 26 May)—which spans 25 years of his work and has been heralded as “persistent and liberating” by The New York Times. The sculptor—who has been called an accumulation artist for his often large-scale work involving discarded material—has lived and worked in Harlem since the beginning of his career and uses the neighborhood as source and inspiration. Art is the perfect medium for exploring such complicated subjects as gentrification, power and the AIDS crisis, Ward says: “It should challenge, consume, maybe even disrupt—and then it should also figure out, because it is art. It is artifice. It is a safe space to consider those different moments.”Adams is the subject of two concurrent exhibitions on show in New York right now (“Derrick Adams: Interior Life” at Luxembourg &amp; Dayan and “Derrick Adams: New Icons” at Mary Boone Gallery). “I thought that successful art was about penetrating the world with images that you want people to see,” he says to host Charlotte Burns. “I want to give viewers other options of looking at black American culture”, he says, especially the normalcy of “what people were doing as a break.” Together, Ward and Adams discuss all the big stuff: from God and spirituality in art, to the power and purpose of making art. They talk real estate and repression, and discuss the power of imagination and moral compassion.  Tune in to In Other Words today for this and much more. Transcript:  https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-56-nari-ward-and-derrick-adams/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

“As an artist I feel like it’s my role to bring that moment of history—that moment of doubt, frustration, of fear—into the present,” says Nari Ward in conversation with fellow artist Derrick Adams on this episode of In Other Words. Ward is the subject of a major retrospective at the New Museum (“Nari Ward: We The People” until 26 May)—which spans 25 years of his work and has been heralded as “persistent and liberating” by The New York Times. The sculptor—who has been called an accumulation artist for his often large-scale work involving discarded material—has lived and worked in Harlem since the beginning of his career and uses the neighborhood as source and inspiration. Art is the perfect medium for exploring such complicated subjects as gentrification, power and the AIDS crisis, Ward says: “It should challenge, consume, maybe even disrupt—and then it should also figure out, because it is art. It is artifice. It is a safe space to consider those different moments.”Adams is the subject of two concurrent exhibitions on show in New York right now (“Derrick Adams: Interior Life” at Luxembourg &amp; Dayan and “Derrick Adams: New Icons” at Mary Boone Gallery). “I thought that successful art was about penetrating the world with images that you want people to see,” he says to host Charlotte Burns. “I want to give viewers other options of looking at black American culture”, he says, especially the normalcy of “what people were doing as a break.” Together, Ward and Adams discuss all the big stuff: from God and spirituality in art, to the power and purpose of making art. They talk real estate and repression, and discuss the power of imagination and moral compassion.  Tune in to In Other Words today for this and much more. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-56-nari-ward-and-derrick-adams/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-56-nari-ward-and-derrick-adams/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Power, Purpose and Privilege with Artists Nari Ward and Derrick Adams

Glenn Fuhrman

Celebrating its tenth anniversary this year, the non-profit FLAG Art Foundation in New York was founded by Glenn Fuhrman. On this episode of In Other Words, Fuhrman talks how he began collecting art (“I lived in a one-room studio apartment for the first eight and a half years I lived in New York, and spent all my disposable income on art.”), and discusses philanthropy (he and his wife sponsored the creation of the nation's largest free Wi-Fi network, covering 95 city blocks in Harlem, in 2013). Fuhrman discusses plans for his own collection—and offers some advice to aspiring collectors as part of this conversation with Amy Cappellazzo (a chairman at Sotheby's and a co-founder of Art Agency, Partners) and our host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words).  Fuhrman, who co-founded and co-manages the private investment firm MSD Capital, also talks about the legacy of FLAG and its future, as well as his views on the art market. Transcript:  http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/glenn-fuhrman-amy-cappellazzo/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Celebrating its tenth anniversary this year, the non-profit FLAG Art Foundation in New York was founded by Glenn Fuhrman. On this episode of In Other Words, Fuhrman talks how he began collecting art (“I lived in a one-room studio apartment for the first eight and a half years I lived in New York, and spent all my disposable income on art.”), and discusses philanthropy (he and his wife sponsored the creation of the nation's largest free Wi-Fi network, covering 95 city blocks in Harlem, in 2013). Fuhrman discusses plans for his own collection—and offers some advice to aspiring collectors as part of this conversation with Amy Cappellazzo (a chairman at Sotheby's and a co-founder of Art Agency, Partners) and our host Charlotte Burns (executive editor, In Other Words).  Fuhrman, who co-founded and co-manages the private investment firm MSD Capital, also talks about the legacy of FLAG and its future, as well as his views on the art market. Transcript: <a href="http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/glenn-fuhrman-amy-cappellazzo/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> http://www.artagencypartners.com/podcast/glenn-fuhrman-amy-cappellazzo/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Collecting and Patronage with Glenn Fuhrman

Ian Alteveer

Naima Keith

For the fifth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Ian Alteveer, an associate curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art; Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman, Sotheby’s Fine Arts Division; and Naima Keith, the deputy director of exhibits and programs at the California African American Museum, who joins us on the phone from Los Angeles. Together with host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, they will be discussing inequalities in the art world. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.

For the fifth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Ian Alteveer, an associate curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art; Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman, Sotheby’s Fine Arts Division; and Naima Keith, the deputy director of exhibits and programs at the California African American Museum, who joins us on the phone from Los Angeles. Together with host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, they will be discussing inequalities in the art world. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Inequalities in the Art World, with Ian Alteveer and Naima Keith

Paula Cooper

Paula Cooper Gallery has survived and thrived in a mercurial art world for more than five decades. On today’s show, the legendary dealer talks about the history and future of her gallery together with Steven Henry, who has been the gallery director for more than two decades, Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of Art Agency, Partners, and host Charlotte Burns. Known for her eye, Cooper has represented some of the most important international contemporary artists of the past half-century. “Artists will give her the best shows, the best work,” says Henry. The gallery has remained a leader of the pack throughout the past 50 years, despite seismic shifts in the art world and market. Nowadays, “it’s this huge international money world,” says Cooper, who also discusses new styles of collecting and the impact of politics on the art world. She also talks about the future: “I really have to think about not being here, now at this point," she says. Ultimately, the legacy of the gallery will be the artists it has supported, she says: “The gallery will be forgotten. It’s the artists who survive.” For this and more, tune in today to In Other Words. Transcript:  https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-58-paula-cooper-and-steve-henry/ “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

Paula Cooper Gallery has survived and thrived in a mercurial art world for more than five decades. On today’s show, the legendary dealer talks about the history and future of her gallery together with Steven Henry, who has been the gallery director for more than two decades, Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of Art Agency, Partners, and host Charlotte Burns. Known for her eye, Cooper has represented some of the most important international contemporary artists of the past half-century. “Artists will give her the best shows, the best work,” says Henry. The gallery has remained a leader of the pack throughout the past 50 years, despite seismic shifts in the art world and market. Nowadays, “it’s this huge international money world,” says Cooper, who also discusses new styles of collecting and the impact of politics on the art world. She also talks about the future: “I really have to think about not being here, now at this point," she says. Ultimately, the legacy of the gallery will be the artists it has supported, she says: “The gallery will be forgotten. It’s the artists who survive.” For this and more, tune in today to In Other Words. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-58-paula-cooper-and-steve-henry/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-58-paula-cooper-and-steve-henry/</a> “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, Then and Now: Paula Cooper Gallery

2019 was a year of protests and profound change. We look back on what happened, what our guests talked about and what our listeners most responded to. Tune in to hear Ian Alteveer (the Aaron I. Fleischman curator of Modern and contemporary art at the Metropolitan Museum), Julia Halperin (the executive editor of artnet News) and host Charlotte Burns review the year—and to hear snippets from our 2019 shows featuring museum directors Nicholas Serota (formerly Tate and now the head of Arts Council England), and Max Hollein (the Metropolitan Museum of Art); The New York Times co-chief art critic Roberta Smith; artists Catherine Opie, Mickalene Thomas, Derrick Adams and Nari Ward; architect David Adjaye; Ford Foundation president Darren Walker, and more. Transcript:  https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-74-looking-back-at-2019/ "In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.

2019 was a year of protests and profound change. We look back on what happened, what our guests talked about and what our listeners most responded to. Tune in to hear Ian Alteveer (the Aaron I. Fleischman curator of Modern and contemporary art at the Metropolitan Museum), Julia Halperin (the executive editor of artnet News) and host Charlotte Burns review the year—and to hear snippets from our 2019 shows featuring museum directors Nicholas Serota (formerly Tate and now the head of Arts Council England), and Max Hollein (the Metropolitan Museum of Art); The New York Times co-chief art critic Roberta Smith; artists Catherine Opie, Mickalene Thomas, Derrick Adams and Nari Ward; architect David Adjaye; Ford Foundation president Darren Walker, and more. Transcript: <a href="https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-74-looking-back-at-2019/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-74-looking-back-at-2019/</a> "In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by <a href="http://Audiation.fm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Audiation.fm</a>.

The Art World: In Other Words, A Year of Protests and Profound Change: 2019 in Review

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