Meg Massey's guest appearances

Meg Massey

Giving Thought

Money + Meaning

Free Money with Sloane and Ashby

Putting It Together

Jeff Bezos

Michael Moody

Jennifer Ashley Tepper

Mitch Kapor

Rob Reich

Jeremy Heimans

Rich Collins

Teddy Schleifer

Will Moy

Connie Gallippi

Daryl Roth

Cathy Clark

Melissa Bradley

Carl Pasbjerg

Michael Riedel

OwlTail

“It’s not just about what you invest in, it’s about how you invest.” In their new book ‘Letting Go’, Ben Wrobel and Meg Massey make the case that in order to effectively tackle social challenges, philanthropists and impact investors need to cede control of funding decisions to people with lived experiences of the challenges they are trying to solve. During this episode, Meg and Ben join host, Alex Kravitz, to discuss the origin of the participatory funding movement, examples of innovative organizations working to center community voice, and some of the differences between building participation into philanthropic grantmaking vs. impact investing.

“It’s not just about what you invest in, it’s about how you invest.” In their new book ‘Letting Go’, Ben Wrobel and Meg Massey make the case that in order to effectively tackle social challenges, philanthropists and impact investors need to cede control of funding decisions to people with lived experiences of the challenges they are trying to solve. During this episode, Meg and Ben join host, Alex Kravitz, to discuss the origin of the participatory funding movement, examples of innovative organizations working to center community voice, and some of the differences between building participation into philanthropic grantmaking vs. impact investing.

The Participatory Funding Movement with Meg Massey and Ben Wrobel

Hannah Paterson

In this episode we talk participatory approaches in philanthropy and social investment, with Meg Massey, co-author of “Letting Go: How Philanthropists and Impact Investors Can Do More Good by Giving Up Control” and Hannah Paterson, Senior Portfolio Manager at the National Lottery Community Fund. Including:    There is a growing amount of focus on participatory approaches to grantmaking at the moment as part of the solution to the criticisms being levelled at philanthropy. How much of the rhetoric is reflected in reality? If there is resistance to adopting participatory approaches, why is this? What’s the core case for adopting participatory approaches: that it democratises philanthropy (and thus helps to answer various critiques) or that it results in better outcomes? Or is it both? What different kinds of models of participatory grantmaking are there? What kind of challenges are there for traditional grantmakers when it comes to bringing communities and people with lived experience into decision making processes? Do participants in a grantmaking decision process need to be representative of a wider community? If so, how do you select them to ensure that representation? How can existing grantmakers transition some or all of their grantmaking to participatory methods? Would all grantmaking be participatory in an ideal world? Or are there limits to participatory approaches? i.e. are there some situations in which it is better for expert funders to set aims and design programs? Or are there cause areas in which participatory approaches are not suitable for other reasons? Can participatory approaches be used outside traditional grantmaking too, e.g. in impact investing/social investment? Does the prominence of XR, BLM and other “new power” organisations suggest an unmet demand within civil society for participation and sharing power? What lessons should traditional CSOs and funders take from this? What should we make of criticisms that since philanthropy is to some extent a product of structural inequality, it can never truly be part of the solution? Are some donors and funders recognise the challenges and are genuinely pursuing structural change?    Related Links    Meg’s new book (co-authored with Ben Wrobel) “Letting Go: How Philanthropists and Impact Investors Can Do More Good by Giving Up Control” Meg on Twitter Hannah’s website Hannah on Twitter The Participatory Grantmaking community Meg and Ben’s article for Pioneers Post “How philanthropists and impact investors can do more good – by giving up control” Meg and Ben’s article for NonProfit Quarterly “Philanthropy and the Zen of Participation” Rhod’s World Economic Forum article, “Philanthropy is at a turning point. Here are 6 ways it could go” CAF Giving Thought podcast on  participatory philanthropy with Rose Longhurst 

In this episode we talk participatory approaches in philanthropy and social investment, with Meg Massey, co-author of “Letting Go: How Philanthropists and Impact Investors Can Do More Good by Giving Up Control” and Hannah Paterson, Senior Portfolio Manager at the National Lottery Community Fund. Including: <ul> <li>There is a growing amount of focus on participatory approaches to grantmaking at the moment as part of the solution to the criticisms being levelled at philanthropy. How much of the rhetoric is reflected in reality?</li> <li>If there is resistance to adopting participatory approaches, why is this?</li> <li>What’s the core case for adopting participatory approaches: that it democratises philanthropy (and thus helps to answer various critiques) or that it results in better outcomes? Or is it both?</li> <li>What different kinds of models of participatory grantmaking are there?</li> <li>What kind of challenges are there for traditional grantmakers when it comes to bringing communities and people with lived experience into decision making processes?</li> <li>Do participants in a grantmaking decision process need to be representative of a wider community? If so, how do you select them to ensure that representation?</li> <li>How can existing grantmakers transition some or all of their grantmaking to participatory methods?</li> <li>Would all grantmaking be participatory in an ideal world? Or are there limits to participatory approaches? i.e. are there some situations in which it is better for expert funders to set aims and design programs? Or are there cause areas in which participatory approaches are not suitable for other reasons?</li> <li>Can participatory approaches be used outside traditional grantmaking too, e.g. in impact investing/social investment?</li> <li>Does the prominence of XR, BLM and other “new power” organisations suggest an unmet demand within civil society for participation and sharing power? What lessons should traditional CSOs and funders take from this?</li> <li>What should we make of criticisms that since philanthropy is to some extent a product of structural inequality, it can never truly be part of the solution? Are some donors and funders recognise the challenges and are genuinely pursuing structural change?</li> </ul> Related Links <ul> <li>Meg’s new book (co-authored with Ben Wrobel) “<a href="https://lettinggobook.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Letting Go: How Philanthropists and Impact Investors Can Do More Good by Giving Up Control</a>”</li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/msmegmassey" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Meg on Twitter</a></li> <li><a href="https://hannahpaterson.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hannah’s website</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/PatersonHannah" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hannah on Twitter</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.participatorygrantmaking.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Participatory Grantmaking community</a></li> <li>Meg and Ben’s article for Pioneers Post “<a href="https://www.pioneerspost.com/news-views/20210506/how-philanthropists-and-impact-investors-can-do-more-good-giving-control" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How philanthropists and impact investors can do more good – by giving up control</a>”</li> <li>Meg and Ben’s article for NonProfit Quarterly “<a href="https://nonprofitquarterly.org/philanthropy-and-the-zen-of-participation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Philanthropy and the Zen of Participation</a>”</li> <li>Rhod’s World Economic Forum article, “<a href="https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/04/philanthropy-turning-point-6-ways-it-could-go/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Philanthropy is at a turning point. Here are 6 ways it could go</a>”</li> <li>CAF Giving Thought podcast on <a href="https://givingthought.libsyn.com/rose-longhurst-democratising-philanthropy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> participatory philanthropy with Rose Longhurst</a></li> </ul>

Participatory grantmaking, with Meg Massey & Hannah Paterson

Maggie Supernova

As the pandemic continues to keep hundreds of thousand of arts jobs around the world hanging in the balance, now for over a year in many cases, we discuss a serious but often undiscussed issue faced by the live entertainment industry around the world. On today’s show I’m talking to arts industry survivor Meg Massey, the woman behind burnout coach Maggie Supernova, about the highs and lows of working in the commercial theater business and the warning signs to watch out for to avoid letting a high speed career meet a brick wall. We discuss how her passion and personality helped her thrive in the arts but ultimately reach a boiling point, the traits that leave both employees and employers more susceptible to the perils of burnout, and how she’s now using her experience to help others avoid it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the pandemic continues to keep hundreds of thousand of arts jobs around the world hanging in the balance, now for over a year in many cases, we discuss a serious but often undiscussed issue faced by the live entertainment industry around the world. On today’s show I’m talking to arts industry survivor Meg Massey, the woman behind burnout coach Maggie Supernova, about the highs and lows of working in the commercial theater business and the warning signs to watch out for to avoid letting a high speed career meet a brick wall. We discuss how her passion and personality helped her thrive in the arts but ultimately reach a boiling point, the traits that leave both employees and employers more susceptible to the perils of burnout, and how she’s now using her experience to help others avoid it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

Meg Massey, Maggie Supernova