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Debbie talks with Dr. Bree Johnston, a geriatrician and palliative care physician in practice for 35 years who is also certified in psychedelic therapies. This is a re-airing of an episode published one year ago. The topic of psychedelic therapy has gone mainstream in the past several years and especially in the past year. In the year since Debbie and Dr. Bree spoke, the use of psilocybin, MDMA and other psychedelics as therapy for addiction, depression and to ease fear of death has been increasingly in the news. The use of psilocybin is now legal or decriminalized in a handful of states in addition to Oregon. Dr. Bree is an especially clear speaker and talks openly about the benefits of her own psilocybin trips. She tells us she wishes she could prescribe them for her elderly patients who are anxious about dying. She explains everything you might want to know about different psychedelics, what their effects are, what to be wary of and more. As to how this topic fits into aging and reinvention, Debbie says were she to receive a fatal diagnosis from cancer or another disease, she's pretty sure she would seek a guided psilocybin trip to ease fear of dying.     UPDATE on legal status of psychedelics As Evidence For Treatment Potential Grows, So Has Psychedelic Legality (VeryWellMind.com, Nov. 18, 2022)Where are psychedelics legal in the U.S.? (Hearst Newspaper Blogger Network, Nov. 25, 2022)U.S. could soon approve MDMA therapy, opening an era of psychedelic medicine (Nature, April 19, 2023)     RECENTLY IN THE NEWS: A Psychedelic Pioneer (Dr. Roland Griffiths) Takes the Ultimate Trip by David Marchese ((The New York Times, April 7, 2023).   ***** NEW! Subscribe to Debbie's Substack.Substack is the new home for Debbie's regular newsletter. She offers behind-the-scenes commentary on the latest episodes of the podcast. She also writes in more depth, from a personal perspective, about the land of the old: the positives, the negatives, and the surprises.  *****  COMPLETE SHOW NOTES: Complete show notes with more resources and links from the May 2022 airing of this episode are here.   NOTE FROM DEBBIE If you've been enjoying the podcast, please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts. It takes less than two minutes and it really makes a difference.     Connect with Debbie: Website: debbieweil.comTwitter: @debbieweilInstagram: @debbieweilFacebook: @debbieweilLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/debbieweilBlog: Gap Year After SixtyEmail: thebolderpodcast@gmail.comDebbie     Media Partners CoGenerate (formerly Encore.org)MEA and with thanks to Chip ConleyNEXT FOR ME: former media partner (and in memory of Jeff Tidwell)  Credits: Host: Debbie WeilProducer: Far Out MediaPodcast websiteMusic: Lakeside Path by Duck Lake

<p>Debbie talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bree-johnston-77b3186/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Bree Johnston</a>, a geriatrician and palliative care physician in practice for 35 years who is also certified in psychedelic therapies. This is a re-airing of an episode published one year ago.</p> <p>The topic of psychedelic therapy has gone mainstream in the past several years and especially in the past year. In the year since Debbie and Dr. Bree spoke, the use of psilocybin, MDMA and other psychedelics as therapy for addiction, depression and to ease fear of death has been increasingly in the news. The use of psilocybin is now legal or decriminalized in a handful of states in addition to Oregon.</p> <p>Dr. Bree is an especially clear speaker and talks openly about the benefits of her own psilocybin trips. She tells us she wishes she could prescribe them for her elderly patients who are anxious about dying.</p> <p>She explains everything you might want to know about different psychedelics, what their effects are, what to be wary of and more.</p> <p>As to how this topic fits into aging and reinvention, Debbie says were she to receive a fatal diagnosis from cancer or another disease, she's pretty sure she would seek a guided psilocybin trip to ease fear of dying.  </p> <h3> </h3> <h3><strong>UPDATE on legal status of psychedelics</strong></h3> <ul><li><a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/where-are-psychedelics-legal-for-therapeutic-use-6827701" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">As Evidence For Treatment Potential Grows, So Has Psychedelic Legality</a> (<a href="http://VeryWellMind.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VeryWellMind.com</a>, Nov. 18, 2022)</li><li><a href="https://www.greenstate.com/explained/where-are-psychadelics-legal-in-the-us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Where are psychedelics legal in the U.S.?</a> (Hearst Newspaper Blogger Network, Nov. 25, 2022)</li><li><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01296-3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">U.S. could soon approve MDMA therapy, opening an era of psychedelic medicine</a> (Nature, April 19, 2023)</li></ul> <h3> </h3> <p> </p> <h3><strong>RECENTLY IN THE NEWS:</strong></h3> <ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/03/magazine/roland-griffiths-interview.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Psychedelic Pioneer (Dr. Roland Griffiths) Takes the Ultimate Trip</a> by David Marchese ((The New York Times, April 7, 2023).</li></ul> <h3> </h3> <p>*****</p> <p><strong>NEW!</strong> <a href="https://debbieweil.substack.com/about" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Subscribe to Debbie's Substack.</a><br/>Substack is the new home for Debbie's regular newsletter. She offers behind-the-scenes commentary on the latest episodes of the podcast. She also writes in more depth, from a personal perspective, about the land of the old: the positives, the negatives, and the surprises. </p> <p>*****<br/> </p> <h3><strong>COMPLETE SHOW NOTES:</strong></h3> <p>Complete show notes with more resources and links from the May 2022 airing of this episode are <a href="https://debbieweil.com/blog/podcasts/s4-ep17-dr-bree-johnston-on-psychedelic-therapy-to-ease-fear-of-death/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.</p> <h3> </h3> <h3><strong>NOTE FROM DEBBIE</strong></h3> <p>If you've been enjoying the podcast, please leave a short review on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/gap-year-for-grown-ups/id1449776332" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts.</a> It takes less than two minutes and it really makes a difference.</p> <h3> </h3> <p> </p> <h3><strong>Connect with Debbie:</strong></h3> <ul><li>Website: <a href="https://debbieweil.com/about" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">debbieweil.com</a></li><li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://facebook.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/debbieweil</a></li><li>Blog: <a href="https://gapyearaftersixty.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gap Year After Sixty</a></li><li>Email: <a href="mailto:thebolderpodcast@gmail.com">thebolderpodcast@gmail.com</a></li><li>Debbie</li></ul> <h3> </h3> <p> </p> <h3><strong>Media Partners</strong></h3> <ul><li><a href="https://cogenerate.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CoGenerate</a> (formerly <a href="http://Encore.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Encore.org</a>)</li><li><a href="https://modernelderacademy.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MEA</a> and with thanks to <a href="https://chipconley.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chip Conley</a></li><li>NEXT FOR ME: former media partner (and in memory of Jeff Tidwell)<br/> </li></ul> <p><strong>Credits:</strong></p> <ul><li>Host: <a href="https://debbieweil.com/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Debbie Weil</a></li><li>Producer: <a href="https://thefarout.life/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Far Out Media</a></li><li><a href="https://debbieweil.com/podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast website</a></li><li>Music: <a href="https://app.sessions.blue/browse/track/e9572e9a-dc3b-441d-a154-1827c7365c77" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lakeside Path by Duck Lake</a></li></ul>

Best Of: Dr. Bree Johnston on Psilocybin Trips and the Growing Acceptance of Psychedelic Therapy

Today, Debbie talks with Dr. Bree Johnston, a geriatrician and a palliative care physician who is also certified in psychedelic therapies.In case you haven't noticed, the topic of psychedelic therapy has gone mainstream in the past several years. Taking a guided psilocybin trip is now viewed as a highly effective way to ease fear of dying. But it's complicated. It took Debbie several months to find just the right person to interview about the therapeutic benefits of psychedelics. Her research led her to Dr. Bree Johnston who is perfectly credentialed for this topic as well as being a notably clear and wise teacher for [B]OLDER podcast listeners. She's been a practicing physician for 35 years and recently became certified in Psychedelic Therapies and Research through the California Institute of Integral Studies.They talk about:- The problem of legality (she predicts psilocybin therapy will be legal in a few years)- Why psychedelic therapy is especially useful for older, dying patients- Her own psychonaut experiences- The dissolution of "self" and becoming part of a whole (a common experience on a psychedelic trip)- The current studies being done at Johns Hopkins and NYU- Microdosing- And her evaluation of which psychedelic therapies are currently most useful: psilocybin, MDMA (aka ecstasy), ketamine (not illegal but results can vary widely).They also explore the complexity that comes with medicalizing psychedelics as well as the ethics surrounding legalization.  This is a highly informative conversation with a knowledgeable physician. Mentioned in this episode or useful:Dr. Bree Johnston on LinkedInThe Trip Treatment by Michael Pollan (The New Yorker; February 5, 2015)How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence by Michael Pollan (Penguin Press; 2018)The Pied Piper of Psychedelic Toads by Kimon de Greef (The New Yorker; March 21, 2022)Berkeley Center for the Science of PsychedelicsPsychedelic Therapy Training Certificate | California Institute of Integral StudiesThe Microdose NewsletterNew York Magazine Investigative Podcast: Cover Story: Power TripJohns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness ResearchCenter for Psychedelic Medicine | NYUA Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life by Ayelet Waldman (Knopf; 2017)Brian Anderson - Studies at UCSFSacred Knowledge: Psychedelics and Religious Experiences by William Richards (Columbia University Press; 2015)Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies - MAPSMAPS NewsletterHandbook of Medical Hallucinogens by Charles Grob and Jim Grigsby (The Guilford Press; 2021)Note from DebbieIf you've been enjoying the podcast, please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts. It takes less than two minutes and it really makes a difference. It makes me feel loved and it also attracts new listeners.Subscribe to my newsletter and get my free writing guide: https://bitly.com/debbie-free-guide.Connect with me:Website: debbieweil.comTwitter: @debbieweilInstagram: @debbieweilFacebook: @debbieweilLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/debbieweilBlog: Gap Year After SixtyEmail: thebolderpodcast@gmail.comDebbieWe are looking for a sponsor or a podcast networkIf you are interested in reaching a smart and thoughtful audience of midlife, and older, listeners, contact Debbie Weil.Media PartnersNext For MeEncore.orgMEASupport this podcast:Leave a review on Apple Podcasts: it will help us find a sponsor! If you are interested, contact Debbie WeilSubscribe via Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher or SpotifyCredits:Host: Debbie WeilProducer: Far Out MediaPodcast websiteMusic: Lakeside Path by Duck Lake

<p>Today, Debbie talks with <strong>Dr. Bree Johnston</strong>, a geriatrician and a palliative care physician who is also certified in psychedelic therapies.</p><p>In case you haven't noticed, the topic of psychedelic therapy has gone mainstream in the past several years. Taking a guided psilocybin trip is now viewed as a highly effective way to ease fear of dying. But it's complicated. It took Debbie several months to find just the right person to interview about the therapeutic benefits of psychedelics. </p><p>Her research led her to Dr. Bree Johnston who is perfectly credentialed for this topic as well as being a notably clear and wise teacher for <strong>[B]OLDER podcast</strong> listeners. She's been a practicing physician for 35 years and recently became certified in Psychedelic Therapies and Research through the California Institute of Integral Studies.</p><p>They talk about:</p><p>- The problem of legality (she predicts psilocybin therapy will be legal in a few years)<br/>- Why psychedelic therapy is especially useful for older, dying patients<br/>- Her own psychonaut experiences<br/>- The dissolution of "self" and becoming part of a whole (a common experience on a psychedelic trip)<br/>- The current studies being done at Johns Hopkins and NYU<br/>- Microdosing<br/>- And her evaluation of which psychedelic therapies are currently most useful: psilocybin, MDMA (aka ecstasy), ketamine (not illegal but results can vary widely).</p><p>They also explore the complexity that comes with medicalizing psychedelics as well as the ethics surrounding legalization.  This is a highly informative conversation with a knowledgeable physician. </p><p><strong>Mentioned in this episode or useful:</strong></p><ul><li>Dr. Bree Johnston on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bree-johnston-77b3186/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/trip-treatment" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Trip Treatment</a> by Michael Pollan (The New Yorker; February 5, 2015)</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Change-Your-Mind-Consciousness-Transcendence/dp/1594204225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence</a> by Michael Pollan (Penguin Press; 2018)</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/28/the-pied-piper-of-psychedelic-toads" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Pied Piper of Psychedelic Toads</a> by Kimon de Greef (The New Yorker; March 21, 2022)</li><li><a href="https://bcsp.berkeley.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ciis.edu/research-centers/center-for-psychedelic-therapies-and-research/about-the-certificate-in-psychedelic-assisted-therapies-and-research" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Psychedelic Therapy Training Certificate | California Institute of Integral Studies</a></li><li><a href="https://themicrodose.substack.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Microdose Newsletter</a></li><li>New York Magazine Investigative Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/cover-story-power-trip" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cover Story: Power Trip</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research</a></li><li><a href="https://med.nyu.edu/departments-institutes/psychiatry/research/center-psychedelic-medicine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Center for Psychedelic Medicine | NYU</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Really-Good-Day-Microdosing-Difference/dp/0451494091" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life</a> by Ayelet Waldman (Knopf; 2017)</li><li><a href="https://profiles.ucsf.edu/brian.anderson#toc-id6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Brian Anderson - Studies at UCSF</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Knowledge-Psychedelics-Religious-Experiences/dp/0231174063" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sacred Knowledge: Psychedelics and Religious Experiences</a> by William Richards (Columbia University Press; 2015)</li><li><a href="https://maps.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies - MAPS</a></li><li><a href="https://maps.org/news/update/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MAPS Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Medical-Hallucinogens-Charles-Grob/dp/1462545440" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Handbook of Medical Hallucinogens</a> by Charles Grob and Jim Grigsby (The Guilford Press; 2021)</li></ul><p><strong>Note from Debbie</strong></p><p>If you've been enjoying the podcast, please consider leaving a short review on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/gap-year-for-grown-ups/id1449776332" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts.</a> It takes less than two minutes and it really makes a difference. It makes me feel loved and it also attracts new listeners.</p><p>Subscribe to my newsletter and get my free writing guide: <a href="https://bitly.com/debbie-free-guide" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bitly.com/debbie-free-guide</a>.</p><p><strong>Connect with me:</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://debbieweil.com/about" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">debbieweil.com</a></li><li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://facebook.com/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@debbieweil</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/debbieweil" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/debbieweil</a></li><li>Blog: <a href="https://gapyearaftersixty.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gap Year After Sixty</a></li><li>Email: <a href="mailto:thebolderpodcast@gmail.com">thebolderpodcast@gmail.com</a></li><li>Debbie</li></ul><p><strong>We are looking for a sponsor or a podcast network</strong></p><p>If you are interested in reaching a smart and thoughtful audience of midlife, and older, listeners, <a href="https://debbieweil.com/contact/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">contact Debbie Weil</a>.</p><p><strong>Media Partners</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://nextforme.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Next For Me</a></li><li><a href="http://encore.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Encore.org</a></li><li><a href="https://modernelderacademy.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MEA</a></li></ul><p><strong>Support this podcast:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gap-year-for-grown-ups/id1449776332" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Leave a review on Apple Podcasts</a>: it will help us find a sponsor! 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Dr. Bree Johnston on Psychedelic Therapy to Ease Fear of Death

Ben Han

Cannabis use by older adults has increased substantially over the last decade, a trend that has paralleled the legalization of its use for medical and recreational purposes. In that same time, there has been a decreased perceived risk associated with cannabis use in older adults as noted in  a recent study published in JAGS. On today’s podcast we talk with Drs. Bree Johnston and Ben Han about what the health care providers role is in cannabinoid prescribing and advising when caring for older adults.  We try to cover a lot in this podcast, including some of these topics:  Epidemiology of cannabis used by older adults (including aspects of the JAGS study) The basic pharmacology and dosing of cannabinoids The latest evidence for the efficacy of cannabis Specific risks and side effects that providers should be aware about, and how we should monitor patients using cannabinoid products Drug interactions we should be aware about 

<p>Cannabis use by older adults has increased substantially over the last decade, a trend that has paralleled the legalization of its use for medical and recreational purposes. In that same time, there has been a decreased perceived risk associated with cannabis use in older adults as noted in <a href="https://agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.17213" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> a recent study published in JAGS</a>.</p> <p>On today’s podcast we talk with Drs. Bree Johnston and Ben Han about what the health care providers role is in cannabinoid prescribing and advising when caring for older adults. </p> <p>We try to cover a lot in this podcast, including some of these topics:</p> <ul> <li>Epidemiology of cannabis used by older adults (<a href="https://agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.17213" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">including aspects of the JAGS study</a>)</li> <li>The basic pharmacology and dosing of cannabinoids</li> <li>The latest evidence for the efficacy of cannabis</li> <li>Specific risks and side effects that providers should be aware about, and how we should monitor patients using cannabinoid products</li> <li>Drug interactions we should be aware about</li> </ul>

Cannabis in Older Adults: A Podcast with Bree Johnston and Ben Han