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Jason Swilling

Sex, Love, and Addiction

Sam Louie

Larry Hedges

Helen Fisher

Tom Ryan

Harville Hendrix

Stan Tatkin

Karl Staib

Mel Robbins

Don Hilton

Rob Weiss

Leon Seltzer

Sue Johnson

Kelly McDaniel

Jonathan Taylor

Ken Adams

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Dr. Rob invites Spiritual Counselor and Pastor, Jason Swilling, on to the podcast today. Jason works with Dr. Rob at the Seeking Integrity clinic. It doesn’t matter what religion you believe in, or do not believe in, this is a great podcast episode for anyone who wants to understand their connection to a higher power and what that might mean for you. It doesn’t matter if you are Muslim, Christian, or even an Atheist, Dr. Rob and Jason have some answers for you.    TAKEAWAYS: [2:05] A little bit about Jason and how he found Dr. Rob and his clinic.  [3:00] Although Jason studied Christianity and comes from that background. How does he work with people of other faiths?  [5:55] How does Jason help people work with some of their regrets and the things they did that went against their religious and moral beliefs?  [7:40] It’s not about failing God, it’s about failing yourself.  [11:05] How do you find your way back to God/religion?  [17:25] What about the people who do not have any religion or faith? How does Jason navigate that?  [18:00] In the 12-step program, you need some kind of faith. How do atheists manage or stay sober?  [23:20] It all comes down to your connection with others. Unfortunately, a lot of religious communities have forgotten this aspect.  [29:20] Dr. Rob feels like a lot of people are not welcomed in their religious communities and people then feel compelled to hide their shame and imperfections.  [35:15] As you share your secrets in a safe community, people in recovery get to experience something really beautiful for the first time. [39:25] Your recovery program works if you work it. Jason is proof of that.    RESOURCES: Sex and Relationship Healing @RobWeissMSW  Sex Addiction 101  Seeking Integrity  Cruise Control: Understanding Sex Addiction in Gay Men   Prodependence: Moving Beyond Codependency Out of the Doghouse by Robert Weiss   QUOTES:   “The spirituality of 12-step recovery is all inclusive. There is no discrimination against certain religions.”   “Often times a spirituality of a person is that it’s just me and God alone. I can take God off the shelf and I can put God on the shelf. And usually I put God on the shelf whenever I act out.”   “I have friends who are atheists who are long-time sober and don’t believe in God. Religion or any of that, is not necessary to work the recovery program to stay sober.”  

Dr. Rob invites Spiritual Counselor and Pastor, Jason Swilling, on to the podcast today. Jason works with Dr. Rob at the Seeking Integrity clinic. It doesn’t matter what religion you believe in, or do not believe in, this is a great podcast episode for anyone who wants to understand their connection to a higher power and what that might mean for you. It doesn’t matter if you are Muslim, Christian, or even an Atheist, Dr. Rob and Jason have some answers for you.  TAKEAWAYS: [2:05] A little bit about Jason and how he found Dr. Rob and his clinic.  [3:00] Although Jason studied Christianity and comes from that background. How does he work with people of other faiths?  [5:55] How does Jason help people work with some of their regrets and the things they did that went against their religious and moral beliefs?  [7:40] It’s not about failing God, it’s about failing yourself.  [11:05] How do you find your way back to God/religion?  [17:25] What about the people who do not have any religion or faith? How does Jason navigate that?  [18:00] In the 12-step program, you need some kind of faith. How do atheists manage or stay sober?  [23:20] It all comes down to your connection with others. Unfortunately, a lot of religious communities have forgotten this aspect.  [29:20] Dr. Rob feels like a lot of people are not welcomed in their religious communities and people then feel compelled to hide their shame and imperfections.  [35:15] As you share your secrets in a safe community, people in recovery get to experience something really beautiful for the first time. [39:25] Your recovery program works if you work it. Jason is proof of that.  RESOURCES: <a href="https://sexandrelationshiphealing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sex and Relationship Healing</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/robweissmsw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@RobWeissMSW</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Addiction-101-Basic-Healing/dp/0757318436" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Sex Addiction 101 </a> <a href="https://seekingintegrity.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seeking Integrity</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BAEK96A/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Cruise Control: Understanding Sex Addiction in Gay Men </a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Prodependence-Moving-Codependency-Robert-Weiss/dp/075732035X" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Prodependence: Moving Beyond Codependency</a> Out of the Doghouse by Robert Weiss QUOTES: <ul> <li> “The spirituality of 12-step recovery is all inclusive. There is no discrimination against certain religions.” </li> <li> “Often times a spirituality of a person is that it’s just me and God alone. I can take God off the shelf and I can put God on the shelf. And usually I put God on the shelf whenever I act out.” </li> <li> “I have friends who are atheists who are long-time sober and don’t believe in God. Religion or any of that, is not necessary to work the recovery program to stay sober.” </li> </ul>

Part 1: Religion and Spirituality in Recovery with Jason Swilling MDiv

Jason Swilling is the Program Manager at Seeking Integrity and works alongside addicts at the treatment center. He is on the ground working one-on-one with individuals seeking recovery from sex addiction and shares his experiences with Dr. Rob on today’s episode. How is a treatment center different than a support group? Does drug addiction differ from sex addiction? All these questions answered and more!    TAKEAWAYS: [2:35] Jason has worked with addicts in some form for over 20 years.  [3:35] Is there a difference between patients who are recovering from sex addiction vs. drug addiction? [4:55] Older patients take recovery much more seriously than a 25-year-old in recovery because they have established a stable home life and they are completely scared to lose everything.  [7:15] What’s the difference between going through a treatment center vs. a support group?  [11:55] Jason explains the differences between people who experience guilt vs. self-hatred for their actions. [15:15] There’s something magical about treatment where everyone develops a very strong bond within a short amount of time.  [16:35] The body will heal if you put it in the right circumstances.  [18:30] In this therapeutic environment, the first thing people learn is how to be intimate in this safe environment.   [21:05] When people go through treatment, their hearts begin to open up for the very first time.  [23:20] How does spiritual work help with recovery?  [27:15] By hearing each other’s stories, people going through recovery are able to grieve and really reflect on their own journeys and decisions that they’ve made.  [31:35] Jason shares a story of a man feeling comfortable enough to reveal a trauma that he has held on to (and never told anyone) for 50 years.  [33:25] The goal at Seeking Integrity is to develop healthy lives without shame or guilt.     RESOURCES:   The Porn Panic: Is Porn a ‘Public Health Crisis’? Sex and Relationship Healing @RobWeissMSW  Sex Addiction 101  Seeking Integrity  Cruise Control: Understanding Sex Addiction in Gay Men   Prodependence: Moving Beyond Codependency   QUOTES:  “The opposite of addiction is connection.” “The person who is sharing realizes they’re not alone whereas when we’re isolated in our addiction we do feel like we’re alone.” “Our body seeks to heal. The body will heal if you put it in the right circumstances.” “As an addict, in our addiction, we have this lack of intimacy, this inability to be intimate with others. We have to hide.” 

Jason Swilling is the Program Manager at Seeking Integrity and works alongside addicts at the treatment center. He is on the ground working one-on-one with individuals seeking recovery from sex addiction and shares his experiences with Dr. Rob on today’s episode. How is a treatment center different than a support group? Does drug addiction differ from sex addiction? All these questions answered and more!  TAKEAWAYS: [2:35] Jason has worked with addicts in some form for over 20 years.  [3:35] Is there a difference between patients who are recovering from sex addiction vs. drug addiction? [4:55] Older patients take recovery much more seriously than a 25-year-old in recovery because they have established a stable home life and they are completely scared to lose everything.  [7:15] What’s the difference between going through a treatment center vs. a support group?  [11:55] Jason explains the differences between people who experience guilt vs. self-hatred for their actions. [15:15] There’s something magical about treatment where everyone develops a very strong bond within a short amount of time.  [16:35] The body will heal if you put it in the right circumstances.  [18:30] In this therapeutic environment, the first thing people learn is how to be intimate in this safe environment.   [21:05] When people go through treatment, their hearts begin to open up for the very first time.  [23:20] How does spiritual work help with recovery?  [27:15] By hearing each other’s stories, people going through recovery are able to grieve and really reflect on their own journeys and decisions that they’ve made.  [31:35] Jason shares a story of a man feeling comfortable enough to reveal a trauma that he has held on to (and never told anyone) for 50 years.  [33:25] The goal at Seeking Integrity is to develop healthy lives without shame or guilt.   RESOURCES:  <a href="https://blogs.psychcentral.com/blog/2019/11/the-porn-panic-is-porn-a-public-health-crisis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> The Porn Panic: Is Porn a ‘Public Health Crisis’?</a> <a href="https://sexandrelationshiphealing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sex and Relationship Healing</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/robweissmsw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@RobWeissMSW</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Addiction-101-Basic-Healing/dp/0757318436" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Sex Addiction 101 </a> <a href="https://seekingintegrity.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seeking Integrity</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BAEK96A/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Cruise Control: Understanding Sex Addiction in Gay Men </a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Prodependence-Moving-Codependency-Robert-Weiss/dp/075732035X" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Prodependence: Moving Beyond Codependency</a> QUOTES: <ul> <li>“The opposite of addiction is connection.”</li> <li>“The person who is sharing realizes they’re not alone whereas when we’re isolated in our addiction we do feel like we’re alone.”</li> <li>“Our body seeks to heal. The body will heal if you put it in the right circumstances.”</li> <li>“As an addict, in our addiction, we have this lack of intimacy, this inability to be intimate with others. We have to hide.”</li> </ul>

Not Living The Life That We Want to Live — Sex Addiction Recovery with Jason Swilling