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Ashley Carlisle

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Tony Thai

Tony Thai and Ashley Carlisle of HyperDraft, return to The Geek in Review podcast to provide an update on the state of generative AI in the legal industry. It has been 6 months since their last appearance, when the AI Hype Cycle was on the rise. We wanted to get them back on the show to see where we are on that hype cycle at the moment. While hype around tools like ChatGPT has started to level off, Tony and Ashley note there is still a lot of misinformation and unrealistic expectations about what this technology can currently achieve. Over the past few months, HyperDraft has received an influx of requests from law firms and legal departments for education and consulting on how to practically apply AI like large language models. Many organizations feel pressure from management to "do something" with AI, but lack a clear understanding of the concrete problems they aim to solve. This results in a solution in search of a problem situation. Tony and Ashley provide several key lessons learned regarding limitations of generative AI. It is not a magic bullet or panacea – you still have to put in the work to standardize processes before automating them. The technology excels at research, data extraction and summarization, but struggles to create final, high-quality legal work product. If the issue being addressed is about standardizing processes or topics, then having the ability to create 50 different ways to answer the issue doesn't create standards, it creates chaos.  Current useful applications center on legal research, brainstorming, administrative tasks – not mission-critical legal analysis. The hype around generative AI could dampen innovation in process automation using robotic process automation and expert systems. Casetext's acquisition by Thomson Reuters illustrates the present-day limitations of large language models trained primarily on case law. Looking to the near future, Tony and Ashley predict the AI hype cycle will continue to fizzle out as focus shifts to education and literacy around all forms of AI. More legal tech products will likely combine specialized AI tools with large language models. And law firms may finally move towards flat rate billing models in order to meet client expectations around efficiency gains from AI.  Contact Us: Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@gebauerm⁠⁠⁠⁠, or ⁠⁠⁠⁠@glambert⁠⁠⁠⁠Voicemail: 713-487-7821Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.comMusic: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Jerry David DeCicca⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠Transcript

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-thai-7081b7137/" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">Tony Thai</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleycarlisle/" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">Ashley Carlisle</a> of <a href="hyperdraft.ai" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">HyperDraft</a>, return to The Geek in Review podcast to provide an update on the state of generative AI in the legal industry. It has been 6 months since their last appearance, when the AI Hype Cycle was on the rise. We wanted to get them back on the show to see where we are on that hype cycle at the moment. While hype around tools like ChatGPT has started to level off, Tony and Ashley note there is still a lot of misinformation and unrealistic expectations about what this technology can currently achieve. Over the past few months, HyperDraft has received an influx of requests from law firms and legal departments for education and consulting on how to practically apply AI like large language models. Many organizations feel pressure from management to "do something" with AI, but lack a clear understanding of the concrete problems they aim to solve. This results in a solution in search of a problem situation. Tony and Ashley provide several key lessons learned regarding limitations of generative AI. It is not a magic bullet or panacea – you still have to put in the work to standardize processes before automating them. The technology excels at research, data extraction and summarization, but struggles to create final, high-quality legal work product. If the issue being addressed is about standardizing processes or topics, then having the ability to create 50 different ways to answer the issue doesn't create standards, it creates chaos. Current useful applications center on legal research, brainstorming, administrative tasks – not mission-critical legal analysis. The hype around generative AI could dampen innovation in process automation using robotic process automation and expert systems. Casetext's acquisition by Thomson Reuters illustrates the present-day limitations of large language models trained primarily on case law. Looking to the near future, Tony and Ashley predict the AI hype cycle will continue to fizzle out as focus shifts to education and literacy around all forms of AI. More legal tech products will likely combine specialized AI tools with large language models. And law firms may finally move towards flat rate billing models in order to meet client expectations around efficiency gains from AI. Contact Us: Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/gebauerm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠@gebauerm⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>, or <a href="https://twitter.com/glambert" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠@glambert⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> Voicemail: 713-487-7821 Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.com Music: <a href="http://www.jerrydaviddecicca.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠Jerry David DeCicca⁠⁠⁠</a> <a href="https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/dashboard/episode/www.geeklawblog.com" rel="noopener noreferer nofollow" target="_blank">⁠⁠Transcript</a>

You Still Need to Put in the Work: Hyperdraft's Ashley Carlisle and Tony Thai on the AI Hype Cycle

There is a lot of buzz around ChatGPT and GPT 3.5, but is it really the next Tesla, or is it the next IBM Watson? We talk with HyperDraft's Tony Thai and Ashley Carlisle about OpenAI's popular tool and why, lawyers at least, shouldn't be ready to go all in on this specific technology. While there are great examples of how GPT 3.5 impressively handled things like Bar Exam questions, there are still a lot of unknowns from this resource from a company that started out as Open Source and non-profit, but has released a product that is neither. While the conversation focused a lot on the short comings of ChatGPT, there is a lot of promise in the technology, even if it may be years before it can handle the complex issues that lawyers and the legal community handle on behalf of their clients. Are we going to reach The Singularity in 2023, or is it decades away? Can AI plug the Access to Justice gap, or will it cause more issues than it solves? Will this specific AI tool continue to improve as it devours more data and leverages millions of users, or will it become corrupted by bad actors who discover how it inputs its data? Can society use this to better ourselves, or will it become another way to play upon our short attention spans? We cover all of this and more in a roundtable discussion. We'd love to hear your thoughts on what value you see in ChatGPT and GPT 3.5 in the legal industry. So reach out to us on Twitter or give us a call! Links:  ChatGPT  and GPT 3.5 Bob Ambrogi's LawNext Interview of Daniel Martin Katz and Michael Bommarito on GPT 3.5's Bar Results HyperDraft AI  Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm, or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7821 Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.com Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

There is a lot of buzz around <a href="//chat.openai.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a> and <a href="//beta.openai.com/playground" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GPT 3.5</a>, but is it really the next Tesla, or is it the next IBM Watson? We talk with <a href="//hyperdraft.ai" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HyperDraft's</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Tony__Thai" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tony Thai</a> and Ashley Carlisle about OpenAI's popular tool and why, lawyers at least, shouldn't be ready to go all in on this specific technology. While there are great examples of how GPT 3.5 impressively handled things like Bar Exam questions, there are still a lot of unknowns from this resource from a company that started out as Open Source and non-profit, but has released a product that is neither. While the conversation focused a lot on the short comings of ChatGPT, there is a lot of promise in the technology, even if it may be years before it can handle the complex issues that lawyers and the legal community handle on behalf of their clients. Are we going to reach The Singularity in 2023, or is it decades away? Can AI plug the Access to Justice gap, or will it cause more issues than it solves? Will this specific AI tool continue to improve as it devours more data and leverages millions of users, or will it become corrupted by bad actors who discover how it inputs its data? Can society use this to better ourselves, or will it become another way to play upon our short attention spans? We cover all of this and more in a roundtable discussion. We'd love to hear your thoughts on what value you see in ChatGPT and GPT 3.5 in the legal industry. So reach out to us on Twitter or give us a call! Links: <ul> <li><a href="//chat.openai.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a>  and <a href="//beta.openai.com/playground" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GPT 3.5</a></li> <li>Bob Ambrogi's <a href="https://lawnext.libsyn.com/ep-188-can-gpt-pass-the-bar-exam-we-find-out" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LawNext Interview</a> of Daniel Martin Katz and Michael Bommarito on GPT 3.5's Bar Results</li> <li><a href="//hyperdraft.ai" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HyperDraft AI</a></li> </ul> Contact Us: Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/gebauerm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@gebauerm</a>, or <a href="https://twitter.com/glambert" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@glambert</a> Voicemail: 713-487-7821 Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.com Music: <a href="http://www.jerrydaviddecicca.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jerry David DeCicca</a> <h5>Transcript available on <a href="https://geeklawblog.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">3 Geeks and a Law Blog</a></h5>

ChatGPT - If It Sounds Too Good To Be True... - Tony Thai and Ashley Carlisle (TGIR Ep. 185)

Want to know what kind of lawyer you should be? Take this FREE 90-second Quiz -&gt; CLICK HEREThis week's episode is sponsored by Barcast Audio. Barcast is the #1 bar exam study tool you need to make sure your first time taking the bar exam is your last.  All MBE subjects are now available and you can pre-order Barcast's Complete MEE Pack now to save $150 off your purchase. Listeners can save an extra 10% off your next Barcast purchase by using the code LADIES at checkout.Want to ask us a question or share a story? CLICK HERE to leave us a message for the podcast!Find Ashley on LinkedIn and HyperDraft.Ai Follow us on social!FacebookInstagramTwitterxoxo stay safe and healthy,The LadiesSamantha &amp; HaylieSupport the showFollow us on Instagram @theladieswholawpodcast

Want to know what kind of lawyer you should be? Take this FREE 90-second Quiz -&gt; <a href="https://www.whattypeoflawyerquiz.com/?r_done=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> This week's episode is sponsored by <a href="https://www.barcastaudio.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Barcast Audio</a>. Barcast is the #1 bar exam study tool you need to make sure your first time taking the bar exam is your last.  All MBE subjects are now available and you can pre-order Barcast's Complete MEE Pack now to save $150 off your purchase. Listeners can save an extra 10% off your next Barcast purchase by using the code LADIES at checkout. Want to ask us a question or share a story? <a href="https://www.speakpipe.com/LadiesWhoLawPodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> to leave us a message for the podcast! Find Ashley on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleycarlisle/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a href="https://hyperdraft.ai/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HyperDraft.Ai</a> Follow us on social! <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ladieswholawschool/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> <a href="http://www.instagram.com/ladieswholawschoolpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/lwlspodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> xoxo stay safe and healthy, The Ladies <a href="http://www.instagram.com/samanthalemke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Samantha</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohh_hayls_yea/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Haylie</a><a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ladieswholaw" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theladieswholawpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@theladieswholawpodcast</a>