LaVera Crawley's guest appearances

LaVera Crawley

Multiracial Family Man

GeriPal

Becoming Who You Truly Are, with Marlena Fiol, PhD

Larry Dossey

Richard Rothstein

Damona Hoffman

Neil deGrasse Tyson

Arno Michaelis

Jamie Foxx

Garcelle Beauvais

Julie Lythcott-Haims

Harriet Brown

Dianne Bondy

Thordis Elva

Brad Jenkins

Christian Finnegan

Mike Brown

Angelina Spicer

OwlTail

Lexy Torke

Karen Steinhauser

Do we need an RCT to establish the worth of chaplaincy? Einstein once said, “Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.” A friend of GeriPal, and prior guest, Guy Micco commented today that we need an RCT for chaplaincy is like the idea that the humanities need to justify their value in medical training: “It’s like being told to measure the taste of orange juice with a ruler.” On the other hand, all of our guests agree that chaplains are often the most vulnerable to being cut from hospital and health system budgets.  These studies are important. Today we have a star-studded lineup, including Lexy Torke of Indiana University, who discusses her  RCT of a chaplaincy intervention for surrogates of patients in the ICU, published in JPSM and plenary presentation at AAHPM/HPNA.  To provide context, we are joined by Karen Steinhauser, a social scientist at Duke who has been studying spirituality for years (and published one of the most cited papers in palliative care on factors considered important at the end of life, as well as one of my favorite  qualitative papers to give to research trainees).  We are also joined by LaVera Crawly, a physician turned chaplain, now VP of Spiritual Care at Common Spirit Health (and author of another of my favorite and most cited papers on palliative care in the African American Community). We dive into the issues of measuring spirituality, chaplaincy, the need for an expanded vocabulary around spirituality, spiritual assessments, spiritual history, LaVera’s journey from physician to chaplain (listen to her compelling answer to the magic wand question at the end). For further context, please check out our prior  podcast on spirituality, and this discussion of the RCT by Lexy that I helped moderate for Transforming Chaplaincy. Thanks to my son Kai for playing the guitar part in 5/4 with strange chords on Riverman by Nick Drake! -Alex

Do we need an RCT to establish the worth of chaplaincy? Einstein once said, “Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.” A friend of GeriPal, and prior guest, Guy Micco commented today that we need an RCT for chaplaincy is like the idea that the humanities need to justify their value in medical training: “It’s like being told to measure the taste of orange juice with a ruler.” On the other hand, all of our guests agree that chaplains are often the most vulnerable to being cut from hospital and health system budgets.  These studies are important. Today we have a star-studded lineup, including Lexy Torke of Indiana University, who discusses her <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885392422010302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> RCT of a chaplaincy intervention for surrogates of patients in the ICU</a>, published in JPSM and plenary presentation at AAHPM/HPNA.  To provide context, we are joined by Karen Steinhauser, a social scientist at Duke who has been studying spirituality for years (and published one of the most cited papers in palliative care <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/193279" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on factors considered important at the end of life</a>, as well as one of my favorite <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/0003-4819-132-10-200005160-00011" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> qualitative papers to give to research trainees</a>).  We are also joined by LaVera Crawly, a physician turned chaplain, now VP of Spiritual Care at Common Spirit Health (and author of another of my favorite and most cited papers on <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/193262" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">palliative care in the African American Community</a>). We dive into the issues of measuring spirituality, chaplaincy, the need for an expanded vocabulary around spirituality, spiritual assessments, spiritual history, LaVera’s journey from physician to chaplain (listen to her compelling answer to the magic wand question at the end). For further context, please check out our prior <a href="https://geripal.org/spiritual-care-in-palliative-care-a-podcast-with-allison-kestenbaum-katy-hyman-and-paul-galchutt/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> podcast on spirituality</a>, and this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f71ZdBSvZSw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">discussion of the RCT</a> by Lexy that I helped moderate for <a href="https://www.transformchaplaincy.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Transforming Chaplaincy</a>. Thanks to my son Kai for playing the guitar part in 5/4 with strange chords on Riverman by Nick Drake! -Alex

RCT of Chaplaincy: Lexy Torke, Karen Steinhauser, LaVera Crawley

I feel honored to introduce today’s guest Dr. LaVera Crawley. In the field of medicine and ethics, LaVera is internationally known for her work on healthcare disparities in palliative and end-of-life care. After a 16+ year career at Stanford as an empirical bioethicist, LaVera Crawley began a new career in spiritual companionship, bringing together her work in medicine, ethics, social justice, teaching, research, and public health with her longstanding interest in spirituality. She is currently the Palliative Care Chaplain at the Alta Bates Summit Medical Center and a certified educator for hospital chaplains. She’s also Chair of the Board of Father Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation.

I feel honored to introduce today’s guest Dr. LaVera Crawley. In the field of medicine and ethics, LaVera is internationally known for her work on healthcare disparities in palliative and end-of-life care. After a 16+ year career at Stanford as an empirical bioethicist, LaVera Crawley began a new career in spiritual companionship, bringing together her work in medicine, ethics, social justice, teaching, research, and public health with her longstanding interest in spirituality. She is currently the Palliative Care Chaplain at the Alta Bates Summit Medical Center and a certified educator for hospital chaplains. She’s also Chair of the Board of Father Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation.

"Spiritual Companionship" - My Interview with Dr. LaVera Crawley

Alec MacLeod

Ep. 53: LaVera Crawley and Alec MacLeod are an interracial couple.  LaVera is a African-American doctor, who grew up in Cincinnati, received her undergraduate and medical degrees at Historically Black Colleges, worked on a Navajo reservation as a M.D., and now serves as a Palliative Care Chaplain.  In the field of medicine and ethics, LaVera is internationally known for her work on health disparities for palliative and end-of-life (EOL) care. She served as an expert on racial, ethnic, and cultural issues for the 2004 NIH State-of-the-Science of EOL Care Consensus Conference; was commissioned by the California Healthcare Foundation to conduct an in-depth summary of EOL health care delivery for California’s multi-ethnic, multicultural, and racially diverse population; and served a 3-year appointment as an ethics advisor for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She was honored with the Soros Faculty Scholars Award for the Open Society Institute's Project on Death in America in 1999-2001, The Howard Temin Award from the National Cancer Institute in 2003-2008, and the Stanford University Faculty Fellows Award in 2007. After a 16+ year career at Stanford as an empirical bioethicist, LaVera Crawley embarked on a new career in the art of spiritual companionship, bringing together her work in medicine, ethics, social justice, teaching, research, and public health with her longstanding interest in spirituality. After completing her clinical pastoral education (CPE) in chaplaincy, she began serving in her current role as a Palliative Care Chaplain at the Alta Bates Summit Medical Center. She is also in training to become an Association for Clinical Pastoral Education (ACPE) Certified Supervisor. Inspired by the Schwartz Center’s Clinical Pastoral Education (CPE) Program for Healthcare Providers, LaVera’s goal as a Chaplain Supervisor is to create and implement a CPE Fellows Program for physicians, nurses, social workers, psychologists, and other healthcare professionals to enhance provider skills and competencies in addressing the spiritual, existential, and religious needs of patients and families facing life-threatening illnesses. Her husband, Alec MacLeod, is a White man of Dutch an English extraction, who grew up in rural, upstate New York,lec MacLeod is a Professor in Undergraduate Studies. He received his undergraduate education at Hampshire College where he studied philosophy and fine arts. Alec also holds a Master of Fine Arts in sculpture from Stanford University (1983) and has studied information science at the University of California at Berkeley. His primary areas of preparation are in the studio arts, art theory and information science. He is a practicing visual artist whose work has been exhibited nationally. Additionally, his work in the area of cultural studies includes the visual culture of the internet (especially implicit assumptions in the design of graphical user interfaces), representations of "the Other" in U.S. colloquial English, and visual explorations of theories of perception. As an educator, Alec has used participatory collaborative methods of inquiry to explore the ways in which pedagogical approaches can assist learners in examining and changing their assumptions about race and ethnicity. He has trained as a multicultural trainer at Equity Institute and Visions, Inc. A member of a research collective, the European-American Collaborative Challenging Whiteness, he has participated in an inquiry into white identity and ways in which white people can become more aware of their identity and its implications. The group has presented its work at educational conferences and recently authored an article entitled "White on White: Communicating about Race and White Privilege with Critical Humility" in Understanding &amp; Dismantling Privilege: the Journal of the White Privilege Conference. Alec has over twenty-five years of experience as a facilitator of learning in higher education as a classroom teacher and as an administrator. He was a member of the design team for the undergraduate cohort based degree completion program and the inaugural director of that program. In addition to his interdisciplinary courses in the Undergraduate program, Alec teaches courses in visual thinking, creativity, and visual culture. Listen as LaVera and Alec speak with Alex about their marriage, their careers, and their views on race and diversity. For more on host, Alex Barnett, please check out his website: www.alexbarnettcomic.com or visit him on Facebook (www.facebook.com/alexbarnettcomic) or on Twitter at @barnettcomic To subscribe to the Multiracial Family Man, please click here: MULTIRACIAL FAMILY MAN PODCAST   Intro and Outro Music is Funkorama by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)  Licensed under Creative Commons - By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Ep. 53: LaVera Crawley and Alec MacLeod are an interracial couple.  LaVera is a African-American doctor, who grew up in Cincinnati, received her undergraduate and medical degrees at Historically Black Colleges, worked on a Navajo reservation as a M.D., and now serves as a Palliative Care Chaplain.  In the field of medicine and ethics, LaVera is internationally known for her work on health disparities for palliative and end-of-life (EOL) care. She served as an expert on racial, ethnic, and cultural issues for the 2004 NIH State-of-the-Science of EOL Care Consensus Conference; was commissioned by the California Healthcare Foundation to conduct an in-depth summary of EOL health care delivery for California’s multi-ethnic, multicultural, and racially diverse population; and served a 3-year appointment as an ethics advisor for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She was honored with the Soros Faculty Scholars Award for the Open Society Institute's Project on Death in America in 1999-2001, The Howard Temin Award from the National Cancer Institute in 2003-2008, and the Stanford University Faculty Fellows Award in 2007. After a 16+ year career at Stanford as an empirical bioethicist, LaVera Crawley embarked on a new career in the art of spiritual companionship, bringing together her work in medicine, ethics, social justice, teaching, research, and public health with her longstanding interest in spirituality. After completing her clinical pastoral education (CPE) in chaplaincy, she began serving in her current role as a Palliative Care Chaplain at the Alta Bates Summit Medical Center. She is also in training to become an Association for Clinical Pastoral Education (ACPE) Certified Supervisor. Inspired by the Schwartz Center’s Clinical Pastoral Education (CPE) Program for Healthcare Providers, LaVera’s goal as a Chaplain Supervisor is to create and implement a CPE Fellows Program for physicians, nurses, social workers, psychologists, and other healthcare professionals to enhance provider skills and competencies in addressing the spiritual, existential, and religious needs of patients and families facing life-threatening illnesses. Her husband, Alec MacLeod, is a White man of Dutch an English extraction, who grew up in rural, upstate New York,lec MacLeod is a Professor in Undergraduate Studies. He received his undergraduate education at Hampshire College where he studied philosophy and fine arts. Alec also holds a Master of Fine Arts in sculpture from Stanford University (1983) and has studied information science at the University of California at Berkeley. His primary areas of preparation are in the studio arts, art theory and information science. He is a practicing visual artist whose work has been exhibited nationally. Additionally, his work in the area of cultural studies includes the visual culture of the internet (especially implicit assumptions in the design of graphical user interfaces), representations of "the Other" in U.S. colloquial English, and visual explorations of theories of perception. As an educator, Alec has used participatory collaborative methods of inquiry to explore the ways in which pedagogical approaches can assist learners in examining and changing their assumptions about race and ethnicity. He has trained as a multicultural trainer at Equity Institute and Visions, Inc. A member of a research collective, the European-American Collaborative Challenging Whiteness, he has participated in an inquiry into white identity and ways in which white people can become more aware of their identity and its implications. The group has presented its work at educational conferences and recently authored an article entitled "White on White: Communicating about Race and White Privilege with Critical Humility" in Understanding &amp; Dismantling Privilege: the Journal of the White Privilege Conference. Alec has over twenty-five years of experience as a facilitator of learning in higher education as a classroom teacher and as an administrator. He was a member of the design team for the undergraduate cohort based degree completion program and the inaugural director of that program. In addition to his interdisciplinary courses in the Undergraduate program, Alec teaches courses in visual thinking, creativity, and visual culture. Listen as LaVera and Alec speak with Alex about their marriage, their careers, and their views on race and diversity. For more on host, Alex Barnett, please check out his website: <a href="http://www.alexbarnettcomic.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.alexbarnettcomic.com</a> or visit him on Facebook (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/AlexBarnettComic?ref=hl" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/alexbarnettcomic</a>) or on Twitter at <a href="https://twitter.com/barnettcomic" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@barnettcomic</a> To subscribe to the Multiracial Family Man, please click here: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/multiracial-family-man/id969793342?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MULTIRACIAL FAMILY MAN PODCAST</a> Intro and Outro Music is Funkorama by Kevin MacLeod (<a href="http://incompetech.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">incompetech.com</a>) Licensed under Creative Commons - By Attribution 3.0 <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/</a>

Interracial marriage, bioethics, life on a Navajo reservation, and studying multiculturalism with LaVera Crawley and Alec MacLeod, Ep. 53 