Wayne Dias's guest appearances

Wayne Dias

The Industrial Talk Podcast with Scott MacKenzie

Energy Central Power Perspectives™ Podcast

Kevin Clark

Todd Palmer

Patrick Smith

Tim Fargo

Chris Davis

Kirk Borne

Mike Murphy

Robert Burton

Scott Drake

John Burton

Tom Williams

Justin Foster

John Armstrong

Andrew Jackson

Rob Schwartz

OwlTail

On this week's Industrial Talk we're onsite at Distributech 22 and talking to Wayne Dias, US Head of Grid Simulation Software and Ming Ho, Director of UX Design and Innovation at Siemens about "Improving the User Experience with Grid Simulation Software".  Get the answers to your "Grid Simulation" questions along with both Ming's and Wayne's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!Finally, get your exclusive free access to the Industrial Academy and a series on “Why You Need To Podcast” for Greater Success in 2022. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!MING HO'S CONTACT INFORMATION: Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mingster/ Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/siemens/ Company Website: https://www.siemens.com/global/en.html WAYNE DIAS' CONTACT INFORMATION: Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-dias-bsc-mba-143bb52a/ PODCAST VIDEO: https://youtu.be/q7C8KfJn33U THE STRATEGIC REASON "WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST":  OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES: NEOM:  https://www.neom.com/en-us AI Dash: https://www.aidash.com/ Hitachi Vantara: https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html Industrial Marketing Solutions:https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/ Industrial Academy: https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/ Industrial Dojo: https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/ We the 15: https://www.wethe15.org/ YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX: LifterLMS: Get One Month Free for $1 – https://lifterlms.com/ Active Campaign: Active Campaign Link Social Jukebox: https://www.socialjukebox.com/ Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):  Business Beatitude the Book Do you desire a more joy-filled, deeply-enduring sense of accomplishment and success? Live your business the way you want to live with the BUSINESS BEATITUDES...The Bridge connecting sacrifice to success. YOU NEED THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES! TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!  Reserve My Copy and My 25% Discount PODCAST TRANSCRIPT: SUMMARY KEYWORDScloud, wayne, utility, industrial, happening, grid, siemens, scenarios, simulation, data, simulate, software, system, ers, ming, silicon valley, renewable resource, talking, conversation, innovation00:00Industrial Talk is brought to you by Armis. Yes, you were in the digital transformation game. Yes, you need to find trusted companies, trusted individuals to help you along with that journey. The Armis platform delivers complete asset intelligence, you know what that means, insights into your connected assets, you're in the digital transformation game, you have to have that insights into what is connected, go to armis.com Find out more, you will not be disappointed. Also, AiDash.  AiDash is on a mission to create a greener, cleaner, safer planet from space. AiDash helps core industries become more resilient, efficient, and sustainable through the power of satellites and AI. Go out to AiDash.com Find out more. Hi, guys, once again, thank you very much for joining industrial talk. We were on site at DistribuTECH. You might have heard the other great conversations we were having there. You know, you just got to come and learn with me. I'm, I'm just a sponge, and I get to learn from all of these incredible leaders. Speaking of which, we've got Minho, and Wayne Diaz, Siemens as a company. We're talking about cloud, we're talking about user experience. And I'm telling you right now you need to be engaged. You need to collaborate and you need to educate like, like me. Yeah. Industrial talk platform for education and highlighting industry leaders like me and Wayne, we are industry. It's the human side. So let's get cracking with the conversation.01:50Here's a cool, thank you for being flexible. Yeah, let's do this. You guys having a good conference?01:59Really good. Lots of good foot traffic. It's busy. So yeah. So far.02:06Is this the first conference guys getting went back to sort of face to face?02:10Yeah. Second conference? Yeah.02:13Was it was it stunning to see those virtual friends that you created, and then all of a sudden see him in person?02:18Yeah, they completely look different, too.02:21I used to wear a wig. So when everybody says, anyway, all right. For the listeners out there, we've got a little set, meaning give us a little background on who you are.02:33Had user experience and strategic innovations with air gap Well, or products within Siemens. It sounds like a strange combination. But what we believe in is to put user experience and customers users at the center of all of our students innovations going forward?02:52Does that sound stupid to me? I'm all about the experience. I'm telling you. Yeah. Big time.02:59And one of those is new offering this year, which is energetic he MDM SAS. So03:06we'll talk about that big gun. Yeah, we'll talk about All right, Ryan, your next background. Wayne, Wayne, hey, work with me. I'm a professional here on this podcast, not just kidding.03:19Okay, so Wayne Dias, I run the grid simulation software business here in the US. When I say grid simulation, anything that and everything that goes on in production or online on the grid needs to be simulated needs. We run a lot of what if scenarios, so our software suite at Siemens provides that infrastructure that support to basically prior to integrating anything onto the power grid, we get to simulate it, and then it finally goes into operations.03:50I gotta pull on that thread, when we start talking to simulation is simulations. It sounds like data, right? It sounds like the collection of data, it sounds like historical information to be able to try to simulate future events and all of that stuff. How does? How does your platform take into consideration the historical events to simulate future?04:14Absolutely. So when I say when I say simulation, I'm talking more grid planning. So I'm looking at various different scenarios, scenarios that were traditionally just looking at. How do I expand the power system? How do I integrate more generation onto the system? How do I integrate distributed generation renewable right, in other words onto the system? And prior to that coming online? How do I really run various different what if scenarios to see whether or not that's going to help the system? Is it going to hurt the system? Do I need reinforcements on the system?04:51Do it let's say you have a scenario as simulation that for renewable whatever, you know, external generates ation. And if it is deemed to, you know, hurt the system does the does the utility have the option to say, hey, we'd love to permit it, but you can't, because we don't have the resources to be able to, you know, fortify this, you know, wherever we're at, does that happen?05:17It does happen. But then we also complemented with additional technology and what we call non wired alternatives, alternatives, which is not just reinforcing the transmission lines, the power lines or transformers, it's more like, maybe I can alleviate that issue with a renewable resource. Battery, maybe. So those are some of the things simulation tools help simulate and plan for05:45Yeah, you're not going to shut them down. Yeah. Go over here. Our simulation says you go over here. So maybe talk about, let's say this cloud offering give us a little reason why, why that's important to utilities. But Cloud06:00offering there's different types, but specifically the software as a service. One of our really good customers Silicon Valley Power, they came to us. Hola. Hola. What power company? Silicon Valley Power. SVP,06:15I have never heard that one. Really? Yeah. Isn't that PG and E? No way. It's a different.06:24It's, it's a separate utility.06:27Worked in Southern California. And I know PG&amp;E. I have never heard that one.06:32No, this is Northern California. Completely different animal. Yeah. Center Silicon Valley. So we're talking about Santa Clara, California, over 50 data centers they produce or they manage 1% of the power consumption within California. Huge, yet a very, very small real estate area, real small area. So some biggest data centers of the world, Intel, Nvidia, and all of those high tech data center. They're all coming in using Silicon Valley Power. So So why does it want to go to software as a service? Well, number one is software service allows us to be able to upgrade them and provide them with new features. So it's evergreen, it allows them to Yes, on the upgrade all that complexity,07:36it's seamless, it's invisible. That's what's I like it.07:39Yeah, yeah. And the second part of it is, they're fairly small. So they want to have their staff really focus on the core business. And they don't want to have to deal with all the IP issues, security and disaster recovery. And the list goes on and on. If you think about it, you have to own the hardware. Yeah, manage the hardware. Yeah, everything that happens, technical monitoring, performance monitoring, and the list again, goes on and on. So as a software service just makes a lot of sense for them. And thirdly, there is a financial benefit to it, because it's a subscription service. So it scales as you as you go up. And you don't have to have all that capex, although those licensing charges right up front, you can essentially amortize that and you have more predictability in terms of spending your expenditures.08:41So what's when do we say, the SAS? What services are in the cloud that you're providing this utility?08:52So in this particular case, is meter data management? Aha, so is smart meters. Yeah, so you have your advanced metering infrastructure. So now those guys are also going to cloud. And so we're sort of also arriving partway, because if you think about it, you have all your meters across all this geographical area, they're coming in through a communication network. And so they're already coming one way or the other through some communication infrastructure, which is almost in the cloud. Now, traditionally, those go on premise and then go through the meter data management system. We're just offering perhaps a more efficient path, and being able to bring all that data in, but also to be able to smooth that, that whole experience.09:41So these are services that are not you don't have you're not latency09:48dependent. Correct. That's not That's not real time. Yeah,09:52you don't need to whatever edge or whatever you want to do it that requires some type of That's right. But why again, now you have you have a bigger challenge, because here's, here's what I see. I see that your simulation, there's a lot of external generation coming on. There's a lot of distributed solutions out there. And and I, quite frankly, being an old, crusty utility guy, um, pretty much around the centralization of power and then the transmission and then that's it, and this whole dynamic grid is a bit can you run those simulations? I mean, it's happening. Right. And, and utilities? I would imagine10:35need it. Absolutely. So, you know, as the grids are getting smarter, right, more and more DRS coming online, they're also10:42getting more complicated. D ers gonna for the listeners? What does that say10:45distributed energy resources.10:47Thank you very much.10:48So as more and more distributed energy resources are coming online, the power system is getting more complicated, given it is getting smarter, but it's getting a lot more complicated and11:00you're you're underselling that. It's super complicated. It's your your, your soft pedaling, and quite frankly,11:06you know, but it's a start, right. But as what we're seeing as Siemens over the next five years, we're looking at 60% of that external renewable resources being implemented onto the system. The planners traditionally would run scenarios, will be snapshot scenarios basically looking at the peak load off peak load generation at a certain peak. But today, with all these D ers coming, there's a lot of volatility, right, this volatility due to that we might need additional scenarios, we might need to run more extensive snow,11:43my you know, that's the case, we because, you know, the market just continues to push the envelope and we're gonna we're gonna have a grand old time.11:51You're right, Scott, we definitely need to run additional scenarios, which we're not, not your traditional scenarios, right. So one of the examples I'll use is time series profile analysis. What is the grid doing at 8am? What is the grid doing a nine, what's on a 10? Now, before we would look at, okay, so my load Southern California for an example is happening at 4pm. But with D ers, that 4pm might not be valid, right? I might need to consider 12 o'clock as a as a problematic time. So what we're trying to drive additional studies, but these additional studies cannot be done on existing infrastructure. I cannot run those studies on my existing hardware on my existing laptop because I will burn it. It folks are talking to us saying our engineers, our planners need new hardware has an impact to OpEx. Right. So that's why our tool pssc transmission planning tool is now in the cloud. You know, it is a tool used all across the US. It's nothing new to the existing transmission planners, operations planners, long term planners, it's basically giving them the avenue to now take their analyses, analyses that may have taken three weeks to complete can now be done in three hours, leveraging the cloud, that's13:16pretty doggone cool. That's cool. But in a related use case, coming from the other side, from the distribution side, as you're doing some of those simulations, it's really important to be able to use real meter data as opposed to load profiles that are just copied over. Because then you can now really localize what's happening at the distribution grid and be able to do optimize planning. So yeah, again, with Wayne and his group, you know, we're getting together and trying to solve those problems.13:49I'm telling you, it's way above my paygrade. Guy, good, good job, it's going to only get more and more challenging, with a lot of changes that are taking place. One of the areas that we don't talk enough about, or discuss, for one reason or another. I know one reason, nobody wants to talk about it, but we're going to talk about it. And that is this is critical infrastructure stuff. This is impacting a lot of how do you secure? How do you ensure the security of let's say, these systems? Right,14:23great. Great question, man. If you don't mind, I'll take that. Sure. And then we'll hear he just stole it from you. So basically, as far as security that is, Scott, one of the things that we get asked all the time.14:37Yeah, but nobody wants to talk about it. Right. You know, it's like we're talking about it. Nobody wants to say, you know, I'm having a problem with my security and I had a breach coming up at night. Nobody's saying that. There's a saying, hey, I need to talk security. You are having problems. No, I'm not having a problem. No14:51critical infrastructure. Right. So how I've, how I look at it is do you have an online banking account? Yep, right? That's already in the cloud, your buddies in the cloud your financial snapshots in the cloud as an individual, right. But let's take it a step further. at Siemens, we're not just a great software company, we're also supporting and have a team of cloud experts, a cloud infrastructure team that is certified to run a certified with various cloud compliance agencies, I'll name a couple, ISO 27 001 is one of them. FedRAMP is another one, so and etc. And we're working with our regional reliability coordinators should drive that security for the right, I'll share a very, very good example. For me, I come from the grid planning the offline data side of the house. But we do have a customer or two that actually have their online operational data in Siemens is cloud infrastructure. So we provide the one stop shop for this utility that basically has all of their operational data in the cloud. So if operational data is in the cloud, Siemens is handling the cloud, we are cloud compliant, our whole team of cloud experts are there, you know, taking in operational offline data is just a no brainer.16:16But the reality is, it was just sort of lay it out there. Yeah. The I believe the cloud is fine. I don't Okay, because I got smart people like you. And I think that if utilities and other companies and not just utilities, although we're at the show, I think it's it has to happen. I think it's just when you when you have a tsunami of data, and you got all this stuff to analyze, you got to do that. It's insecure, right? me it is?

Ming Ho and Wayne Dias with Siemens

Brent Jensen

This week, Energy Central brings you a special conversation about the digitalization of the utility sector and the imperative role that digital twin technology will play in this industry evolution. Host DW Keefer and Producer Matt Chester are joined in the podcast booth by Brent Jensen, Sales Engagement Director with Bentley Systems, and Wayne Dias, U.S. Product Manager for PSS Sincal from Siemens. Through this engaging and spirited conversation, Brent and Wayne detail the inevitable changes that utility leaders must recognize are going on and argue for why digital twin should be a core focus for all areas of these power providers moving forward. Brent and Wayne break down this complex topic to make their compelling arguments in a way that allows all to understand the importance, whether this is the first you’re hearing of the digital twin or if you’re knee-deep in the digitalization process. By the end of this episode, you’ll be eagerly seeking out the decision-makers at your organization to pass on the argument for digital twins yourself. A special thanks to Bentley Systems for supporting this edition of the Energy Central Power Perspectives Podcast.  Key Links: Brent Jensen’s Energy Central Profile: https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256068Wayne Dias’s Energy Central Profile: https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256215/aboutBentley Systems on Energy Central: https://energycentral.com/o/bentleyLink to register as a member of the Energy Central community: https://energycentral.com/user/registerEnergy Central Post with More Details: https://energycentral.com/c/iu/energy-central-power-perspectives%E2%84%A2-podcast-special-edition-digital-twins-critical

This week, Energy Central brings you a special conversation about the digitalization of the utility sector and the imperative role that digital twin technology will play in this industry evolution. Host DW Keefer and Producer Matt Chester are joined in the podcast booth by Brent Jensen, Sales Engagement Director with Bentley Systems, and Wayne Dias, U.S. Product Manager for PSS Sincal from Siemens. Through this engaging and spirited conversation, Brent and Wayne detail the inevitable changes that utility leaders must recognize are going on and argue for why digital twin should be a core focus for all areas of these power providers moving forward. Brent and Wayne break down this complex topic to make their compelling arguments in a way that allows all to understand the importance, whether this is the first you’re hearing of the digital twin or if you’re knee-deep in the digitalization process. By the end of this episode, you’ll be eagerly seeking out the decision-makers at your organization to pass on the argument for digital twins yourself. A special thanks to Bentley Systems for supporting this edition of the Energy Central Power Perspectives Podcast. Key Links: Brent Jensen’s Energy Central Profile: <a href="https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256068" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256068</a> Wayne Dias’s Energy Central Profile: <a href="https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256215/about" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://energycentral.com/member/profile/256215/about</a> Bentley Systems on Energy Central: <a href="https://energycentral.com/o/bentley" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://energycentral.com/o/bentley</a> Link to register as a member of the Energy Central community: <a href="https://energycentral.com/user/register" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://energycentral.com/user/register</a> Energy Central Post with More Details: <a href="https://energycentral.com/c/iu/energy-central-power-perspectives%E2%84%A2-podcast-special-edition-digital-twins-critical" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://energycentral.com/c/iu/energy-central-power-perspectives%E2%84%A2-podcast-special-edition-digital-twins-critical</a>

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