Kate Henne's guest appearances

Kate Henne

The Wholesome Show

Rules to Reality: how regulation shapes, or fails to shape, our daily lives

Sharon Friel

Wilhelm Reich

Brian Wansink

Steve Fuller

Thomas Midgley

Alfred Lawson

Myers Briggs

Isaac Newton

John Harvey Kellogg

Mike Hall

Josh Bornstein

George Williams

Scott Ludlam

Ben Long

Jason Cummings

OwlTail

Today I speak with Professor Kate Henne. Kate is the director of RegNet, which is the school of Regulation and Global Governance at ANU. She also leads the Justice and Techno Science Lab within the RegNet school. Kate’s research interests and areas of expertise are enormous, and I’ll put links to just some examples in the show notes, but to give you a flavour, they focus on the intersection of the politics and technology as it relates to biomedicalisation, criminalisation, gender regulation, human enhancement and wellbeing, and heavily discussed in this podcast, surveillance and police technologies. Technologies of these kinds are profilerating and making their way into our life in visible and invisible ways. They’re becoming normalised, part of how we deliver services, how we prevent or monitor cheating, or how police police. Various digital technologies aren’t just focused on organising calendards or romantically swiping in your neighbourhood, they’re increasingly being called on to address systemic and structural issues in our community – it’s not clear whether these technologies do more harm than good. What is clear is that that the potential benefits of technologies are married to real risks. And those risks mean we need to have a conversation about regulation. Kate is a wonderful expert to guide us through that conversation. Despite being so knowledgeable, Kate is a very generous conversationalist, and very regularly highlights the excellent research of her colleagues. I think you’ll enjoy this one to start off the year. Timestamps:  Why regulating technology matters (2:40) Technology, ecosystems and surveillance (5:00) Government technologies and unintended consequences (9:00) How Big Tech facilitates a shift in how racism and discrimination operates (19:15) The role of private tech and public regulators in addressing hate speech (25:00) How to involve civil society ethically and efficiently in regulating tech (27:30) Principles for technology that go beyond fairness (28:45) What Professor Henne wants listeners to consider from now (36:45)  Shownotes: Professor Kate Henne’s research profile: https://researchprofiles.anu.edu.au/en/persons/kate-henne Justice and Technoscience lab: https://regnet.anu.edu.au/research/centres/justice-and-technoscience-lab-justech Some of Professor Henne’s research on regulation of doping in sport: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0193723515596203?casa_token=CBifKcX5E28AAAAA:fQVcN4cWvRpAZZYnWlEhd2XZVaok7GZ4Pfb9yGN-LeTYGoSS_APM5i1CYfbRIVuW10nKRbWKyy9oJqE https://regnet.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2019-01/Dilemmas%20of%20Gender%20and%20Global%20Sports%20Governance.pdf Research mentioned from a/Professor Natasha Tusikov: https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/surveillance-and-society/article/download/12908/8475/ Safiya Umoja Noble’s book, Algorithms of Racism: https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/

Today I speak with Professor <a href="https://researchprofiles.anu.edu.au/en/persons/kate-hennehttps:/researchprofiles.anu.edu.au/en/persons/kate-henne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kate Henne</a>. Kate is the director of RegNet, which is the school of Regulation and Global Governance at ANU. She also leads the Justice and Techno Science Lab within the RegNet school. Kate’s research interests and areas of expertise are enormous, and I’ll put links to just some examples in the show notes, but to give you a flavour, they focus on the intersection of the politics and technology as it relates to biomedicalisation, criminalisation, gender regulation, human enhancement and wellbeing, and heavily discussed in this podcast, surveillance and police technologies. Technologies of these kinds are profilerating and making their way into our life in visible and invisible ways. They’re becoming normalised, part of how we deliver services, how we prevent or monitor cheating, or how police police. Various digital technologies aren’t just focused on organising calendards or romantically swiping in your neighbourhood, they’re increasingly being called on to address systemic and structural issues in our community – it’s not clear whether these technologies do more harm than good. What is clear is that that the potential benefits of technologies are married to real risks. And those risks mean we need to have a conversation about regulation. Kate is a wonderful expert to guide us through that conversation. Despite being so knowledgeable, Kate is a very generous conversationalist, and very regularly highlights the excellent research of her colleagues. I think you’ll enjoy this one to start off the year. Timestamps: <ul> <li>Why regulating technology matters (2:40)</li> <li>Technology, ecosystems and surveillance (5:00)</li> <li>Government technologies and unintended consequences (9:00)</li> <li>How Big Tech facilitates a shift in how racism and discrimination operates (19:15)</li> <li>The role of private tech and public regulators in addressing hate speech (25:00)</li> <li>How to involve civil society ethically and efficiently in regulating tech (27:30)</li> <li>Principles for technology that go beyond fairness (28:45)</li> <li>What Professor Henne wants listeners to consider from now (36:45)</li> </ul> Shownotes: Professor Kate Henne’s research profile: <a href="https://researchprofiles.anu.edu.au/en/persons/kate-henne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://researchprofiles.anu.edu.au/en/persons/kate-henne</a> Justice and Technoscience lab: <a href="https://regnet.anu.edu.au/research/centres/justice-and-technoscience-lab-justech" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://regnet.anu.edu.au/research/centres/justice-and-technoscience-lab-justech</a> Some of Professor Henne’s research on regulation of doping in sport: <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0193723515596203?casa_token=CBifKcX5E28AAAAA:fQVcN4cWvRpAZZYnWlEhd2XZVaok7GZ4Pfb9yGN-LeTYGoSS_APM5i1CYfbRIVuW10nKRbWKyy9oJqE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0193723515596203?casa_token=CBifKcX5E28AAAAA:fQVcN4cWvRpAZZYnWlEhd2XZVaok7GZ4Pfb9yGN-LeTYGoSS_APM5i1CYfbRIVuW10nKRbWKyy9oJqE</a> <a href="https://regnet.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2019-01/Dilemmas%20of%20Gender%20and%20Global%20Sports%20Governance.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://regnet.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/2019-01/Dilemmas%20of%20Gender%20and%20Global%20Sports%20Governance.pdf</a> Research mentioned from a/Professor Natasha Tusikov: <a href="https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/surveillance-and-society/article/download/12908/8475/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/surveillance-and-society/article/download/12908/8475/</a> Safiya Umoja Noble’s book, Algorithms of Racism: <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/</a>

#13 The road to digital surveillance is paved with good intentions – with Prof Kate Henne

Steve Woolgar

Simone Dennis

Mundane governance doesn't sound too interesting, huh?But it's actually crazy fascinating! In this week's episode we crashed this Mundane Governance Conference and had not one, but three beers with three interesting people.And look, we admit it we laughed a little at the the conference tite at first, but then we found it was chock full of intriguing people and ideas. Seriously, check this out:First we yacked with Professor Simone Dennis about 'governance of the tongue', how there are rules about how we taste stuff, and how anthropologists are concerned with 'pre-swallowing'...Next, we mused about how your Fitbit might be conspiring with big business to take over your brain and life and Netflix favourites list (or something like that...)with Dr Kate Henne. Finally, we dove into the big issues with Professor Steve Woolgar and heard about recycle bin rage (seriously), and how 101 mls of liquid on a plane is super-dangerous, but 10 litres of that same liquid in a bin at the airport is just hunky-dory.Honestly, we could have kept talking with any of these guest for hours (but don't worry, we didn't) - listen in here and have your view of the mundane changed forever!Scintillatingly beige regards,Rod'n'WillSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mundane governance doesn't sound too interesting, huh? But it's actually crazy fascinating!  In this week's episode we crashed this Mundane Governance Conference and had not one, but three beers with three interesting people. And look, we admit it we laughed a little at the the conference tite at first, but then we found it was chock full of intriguing people and ideas. Seriously, check this out: First we yacked with Professor Simone Dennis about 'governance of the tongue', how there are rules about how we taste stuff, and how anthropologists are concerned with 'pre-swallowing'... Next, we mused about how your Fitbit might be conspiring with big business to take over your brain and life and Netflix favourites list (or something like that...)with Dr Kate Henne.  Finally, we dove into the big issues with Professor Steve Woolgar and heard about recycle bin rage (seriously), and how 101 mls of liquid on a plane is super-dangerous, but 10 litres of that same liquid in a bin at the airport is just hunky-dory. Honestly, we could have kept talking with any of these guest for hours (but don't worry, we didn't) - listen in here and have your view of the mundane changed forever! Scintillatingly beige regards, Rod'n'WillSee <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

Magnificent Mundane Governance! Steve Woolgar, Simone Dennis, Kate Henne!