Li Shuo's guest appearances

Li Shuo

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Planet A - Talks on Climate Change

Jonathan Safran Foer

Jane Goodall

Chris Anderson

Jennifer Morgan

David Wallace-Wells

John Kerry

Joseph Stiglitz

GEORGE MONBIOT

ELIZABETH KOLBERT

Nicholas Stern

Jonathan Franzen

Jeffrey Sachs

Kate Marvel

Julio Friedmann

Ernest Moniz

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This year has been packed with China environmental and climate news, and there’s no way this podcast could keep up. But today we’re going to try! Our guests today are Li Shuo of Greenpeace East Asia and Christoph Nedopil-Wang of Shanghai Fudan University (and Global Bavarian). We’re going to tackle the following hot topics:  The biodiversity COP in Kunming The upcoming Glasgow COP The China announcement on finance for coal abroad And upcoming climate finance policies 

This year has been packed with China environmental and climate news, and there’s no way this podcast could keep up. But today we’re going to try! Our guests today are Li Shuo of Greenpeace East Asia and Christoph Nedopil-Wang of Shanghai Fudan University (and Global Bavarian). We’re going to tackle the following hot topics: <ul> <li>The biodiversity COP in Kunming</li> <li>The upcoming Glasgow COP</li> <li>The China announcement on finance for coal abroad</li> <li>And upcoming climate finance policies</li> </ul>

Updates on Biodiversity and Climate COPs - with Li Shuo and Christoph Nedopil-Wang

In the 2nd episode of season 2 of Planet A, Dan Jørgensen talks with Li Shuo from Greenpeace East Asia about Chinese domestic and international climate politics ahead of COP26. Li Shuo works as Greenpeace’s Senior Climate and Energy Policy Officer  in Beijing and leads the NGO’s international political delegation at the COP-meetings. Thus, he offers a unique insight regarding China’s domestic environmental policies and its relationship to the international climate negotiations. Li Shuo argues that the Sino-American relationship has deteriorated during Trump’s Presidency and is now at rock bottom. Thus, even though both countries realize that they have to work together in order to achieve a successful outcome at COP26, it will be quite difficult to resume the bilateral collaboration that forged the Paris Agreement. Accordingly, the EU could play an important role at COP26, in what Li Shuo describes as a “tricycle dynamic”. Due to Europe’s ambitious climate goals and policies, it acts as the tricycle’s front wheel, while the US and China have been acting as parallel rear-wheels.Li Shuo also provides a different perspective on China’s recent dual goals to peak carbon emissions by 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060. He argues that the announcement of the goals in and by itself should be seen as a trial balloon to gauge the level of consensus within the Chinese leadership for unilateral climate action. Furthermore, he explains how China’s remarkable economic growth over the last four decades was largely spurred by coal-based manufacturing. However, while economic growth remains a priority for the Chinese leadership, the resulting air pollution has emerged as a defining political priority.However, while China’s leadership is trying to wean the country off coal, it faces stiff opposition from the domestic coal industry that retains preferential access to the electricity grid and seeks to delay deployment of renewables.

In the 2nd episode of season 2 of Planet A, Dan Jørgensen talks with Li Shuo from Greenpeace East Asia about Chinese domestic and international climate politics ahead of COP26. Li Shuo works as Greenpeace’s Senior Climate and Energy Policy Officer  in Beijing and leads the NGO’s international political delegation at the COP-meetings. Thus, he offers a unique insight regarding China’s domestic environmental policies and its relationship to the international climate negotiations. Li Shuo argues that the Sino-American relationship has deteriorated during Trump’s Presidency and is now at rock bottom. Thus, even though both countries realize that they have to work together in order to achieve a successful outcome at COP26, it will be quite difficult to resume the bilateral collaboration that forged the Paris Agreement. Accordingly, the EU could play an important role at COP26, in what Li Shuo describes as a “tricycle dynamic”. Due to Europe’s ambitious climate goals and policies, it acts as the tricycle’s front wheel, while the US and China have been acting as parallel rear-wheels.Li Shuo also provides a different perspective on China’s recent dual goals to peak carbon emissions by 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060. He argues that the announcement of the goals in and by itself should be seen as a trial balloon to gauge the level of consensus within the Chinese leadership for unilateral climate action. Furthermore, he explains how China’s remarkable economic growth over the last four decades was largely spurred by coal-based manufacturing. However, while economic growth remains a priority for the Chinese leadership, the resulting air pollution has emerged as a defining political priority.However, while China’s leadership is trying to wean the country off coal, it faces stiff opposition from the domestic coal industry that retains preferential access to the electricity grid and seeks to delay deployment of renewables.

Li Shuo – On China’s domestic and international climate politics

Li Shuo, Senior Global Policy Advisor at Greenpeace East Asia, gives a preview of the biggest issues on the table at the climate COP (Conference of the Parties) this year in Madrid, and what role China will likely play in the proceedings.  Li Shuo's official bio: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/person/li-shuo Li Shuo on Twitter: https://twitter.com/lishuo_gp?lang=en Link to COP 25 official web page: https://unfccc.int/cop25 (Note: episode republished due to sound issues.) The Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) is a carbon trading mechanism that has enabled developed countries to offset their own emissions by investing in or purchasing credits from carbon reduction projects in developing countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Development_Mechanism.

Li Shuo, Senior Global Policy Advisor at Greenpeace East Asia, gives a preview of the biggest issues on the table at the climate COP (Conference of the Parties) this year in Madrid, and what role China will likely play in the proceedings.  Li Shuo's official bio: <a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/person/li-shuo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.wilsoncenter.org/person/li-shuo</a> Li Shuo on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lishuo_gp?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/lishuo_gp?lang=en</a> Link to COP 25 official web page: <a href="https://unfccc.int/cop25" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://unfccc.int/cop25</a> (Note: episode republished due to sound issues.) The Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) is a carbon trading mechanism that has enabled developed countries to offset their own emissions by investing in or purchasing credits from carbon reduction projects in developing countries: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Development_Mechanism" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Development_Mechanism</a>.