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This episode of the HIP Podcast revisits 2022’s HIP NYC conference, where Sean sits down with Andy Greenberg, award-winning author of Sandworm and Tracers in the Dark. As a senior writing covering security, privacy, information freedom, and hacker culture at WIRED magazine, Andy speaks with Sean and the HIP audience about tracking cyber crime, current cyber threats, and more.

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We go behind the scenes of the new book by WIRED’s Andy Greenberg, "Tracers in the Dark." It explains how a handful of entrepreneurs and investigators demystified cryptocurrency tracking. Recently, we spoke with Andy and some crypto tracers onstage at the Links 2023 conference in New York City. Plus, North Korea’s ingenious effort to launder its stolen crypto. 

We go behind the scenes of the new book by WIRED’s Andy Greenberg, "Tracers in the Dark." It explains how a handful of entrepreneurs and investigators demystified cryptocurrency tracking. Recently, we spoke with Andy and some crypto tracers onstage at the Links 2023 conference in New York City. Plus, North Korea’s ingenious effort to launder its stolen crypto.

63. Tracers on the stage: Andy Greenberg, Michael Gronager and Tigran Gambaryan talk cryptocurrency tracking

Andy Greenberg is an award-winning writer &amp; journalist covering security, privacy, information freedom, and darknet hacker culture. He's the author of the new book Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency.    EPISODE LINKS  Andy's new book: https://a.co/d/aIL02zf  https://andygreenberg.net  https://twitter.com/a_greenberg JOIN OUR KULT: https://bit.ly/koncretepatreon DANNY LINKS https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny  https://twitter.com/jonesdanny  OUTLINE  0:00 - Introduction  6:13 - Hunting down Satoshi Nakamoto  14:00 - Interviewing Dread Pirate Roberts (Ross Ulbricht)  19:55 - Ross Ulbricht’s trial  22:55 - The Silk Road  39:24 - Chainalysis: The super-weapon against bitcoin  42:41 - IRS special agent Tigran Gambaryan  45:39 - DEA Agent who faked a murder and stole bitcoin from Silk Road  52:21 - Cryptography expert who cracked Bitcoin  59:47 - Mt. Gox heist  1:07:37 - Hackers &amp; scammers in Ukraine  1:10:21 - AlphaBay darknet market  1:20:50 - The Kingpin behind AlphaBay: Alexandre Cazes  1:28:34 - The DEA sting that hijacked the entire dark web drug market  1:38:49 - Mysterious death of Alpha02 in a Thai jail  1:52:28 - How Hansa was hijacked by Dutch police  1:56:30 - The current state of the dark web  2:05:20 - Andy’s approach to journalism  2:14:15 - Interviewing Julian Assange  2:27:00 - State sponsored hacking &amp; cyber war

Andy Greenberg is an award-winning writer &amp; journalist covering security, privacy, information freedom, and darknet hacker culture. He's the author of the new book Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency.    EPISODE LINKS  Andy's new book: <a href="https://a.co/d/aIL02zf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/aIL02zf</a> <a href="https://andygreenberg.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://andygreenberg.net</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/a_greenberg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/a_greenberg</a> JOIN OUR KULT: <a href="https://bit.ly/koncretepatreon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/koncretepatreon</a> DANNY LINKS <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/jonesdanny" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/jonesdanny</a> OUTLINE  0:00 - Introduction  6:13 - Hunting down Satoshi Nakamoto  14:00 - Interviewing Dread Pirate Roberts (Ross Ulbricht)  19:55 - Ross Ulbricht’s trial  22:55 - The Silk Road  39:24 - Chainalysis: The super-weapon against bitcoin  42:41 - IRS special agent Tigran Gambaryan  45:39 - DEA Agent who faked a murder and stole bitcoin from Silk Road  52:21 - Cryptography expert who cracked Bitcoin  59:47 - Mt. Gox heist  1:07:37 - Hackers &amp; scammers in Ukraine  1:10:21 - AlphaBay darknet market  1:20:50 - The Kingpin behind AlphaBay: Alexandre Cazes  1:28:34 - The DEA sting that hijacked the entire dark web drug market  1:38:49 - Mysterious death of Alpha02 in a Thai jail  1:52:28 - How Hansa was hijacked by Dutch police  1:56:30 - The current state of the dark web  2:05:20 - Andy’s approach to journalism  2:14:15 - Interviewing Julian Assange  2:27:00 - State sponsored hacking &amp; cyber war

#174 - The FBI's New Cyber Super-Weapon Is The Dark Web's Worst Nightmare | Andy Greenberg

In the story of Gyge’s Ring, Plato asserts that if humans had the power to be invisible, they would act without consequence. In his book, Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency, Greenberg details the truth of Plato’s claim as he recounts stories of criminal activity on the dark web, where people believed they were acting anonymously without the risk of getting caught. Join this podcast to hear Greenberg discuss his favorite scenes in the book that reveals how researchers and investigators were able to trace cryptocurrency exchanges.Speakers:Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer, WiredKacy Zurkus, Senior Content Manager, RSAC

In the story of Gyge’s Ring, Plato asserts that if humans had the power to be invisible, they would act without consequence. In his book, Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency, Greenberg details the truth of Plato’s claim as he recounts stories of criminal activity on the dark web, where people believed they were acting anonymously without the risk of getting caught. Join this podcast to hear Greenberg discuss his favorite scenes in the book that reveals how researchers and investigators were able to trace cryptocurrency exchanges. Speakers: Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer, Wired Kacy Zurkus, Senior Content Manager, RSAC

Tracers in the Dark: A Discussion with Andy Greenberg

Do we really need a "war against cryptography" - codes and ciphers that the government can easily crack if it thinks there's an emergency - to cement our collective online security? Hear renowned cybersecurity author Andy Greenberg's thoughtful commentary on this and many other vital issues, including anonymity and privacy, as we talk to him about his tremendous new book, Tracers in the Dark. Original music by Edith Mudge.

Do we really need a "war against cryptography" - codes and ciphers that the government can <a href="https://www.sophos.com/nobackdoors" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">easily crack</a> if it thinks there's an emergency - to cement our collective online security? Hear renowned cybersecurity author Andy Greenberg's thoughtful commentary on this and many other vital issues, including anonymity and privacy, as we talk to him about his <a href="https://andygreenberg.net/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tremendous new book</a>, Tracers in the Dark. Original music by <a href="https://www.edithmudge.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Edith Mudge</a>.

S3 Special: Tracers in the Dark with Andy Greenberg

In this bonus episode of the Cyberlaw Podcast, I interview Andy Greenberg, long-time WIRED reporter, about his new book, “Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency.” This is Andy’s second author interview on the  Cyberlaw Podcast. He also came on to discuss an earlier book,  Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers. They are both excellent cybersecurity stories. “Tracers in the Dark”, I suggest, is a kind of sequel to the Silk Road story, which ends with Ross Ulbricht, the Dread Pirate Roberts, pinioned in a San Francisco library with his laptop open to an administrator’s page on the Silk Road digital black market. At that time, cryptocurrency backers believed that Ulbricht’s arrest was a fluke, and that properly implemented, bitcoin was anonymous and untraceable. Greenberg’s book explains, story by story, how that illusion was trashed by smart cops and techies (including our own Nick Weaver!) who showed that the blockchain’s “forever” records make it almost impossible to avoid attribution over time. Among those who fall victim to the illusion of anonymity are two federal officers who helped pursue Ulbricht—and to rip him off; the administrator of AlphaBay, Silk Road’s successor dark market, an alleged Russian hacker who made so much money hacking Mt. Gox that he had to create his own exchange to launder it all, and hundreds of child sex abuse consumers and producers.  It is a great story, and Andy brings it up to date in the interview as we dig into two massive, multi-billion seizures made possible by transaction tracing. In fact, for all the colorful characters in the book, the protagonist is really Chainalysis and its competitors, who have turned tracing into a kind of science. We close the talk by exploring Andy’s deeply mixed feelings about both the world envisioned by cryptocurrency’s evangelists and the way Chainalysis is saving us from that world.

In this bonus episode of the Cyberlaw Podcast, I interview <a href="https://www.wired.com/author/andy-greenberg/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Andy Greenberg,</a> long-time WIRED reporter, about his new book, “<a href="https://andygreenberg.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency.</a>” This is Andy’s second author interview on the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cyberlaw-podcast/id836535581" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Cyberlaw Podcast</a>. He also came on to discuss an earlier book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sandworm-Cyberwar-Kremlins-Dangerous-Hackers/dp/0525564632" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers.</a> They are both excellent cybersecurity stories. “Tracers in the Dark”, I suggest, is a kind of sequel to the Silk Road story, which ends with Ross Ulbricht, the Dread Pirate Roberts, pinioned in a San Francisco library with his laptop open to an administrator’s page on the Silk Road digital black market. At that time, cryptocurrency backers believed that Ulbricht’s arrest was a fluke, and that properly implemented, bitcoin was anonymous and untraceable. Greenberg’s book explains, story by story, how that illusion was trashed by smart cops and techies (including our own <a href="http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nick Weaver!</a>) <a href="http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>who showed that the blockchain’s “forever” records make it almost impossible to avoid attribution over time. Among those who fall victim to the illusion of anonymity are two federal officers who helped pursue Ulbricht—and to rip him off; the administrator of AlphaBay, Silk Road’s successor dark market, an alleged Russian hacker who made so much money hacking Mt. Gox that he had to create his own exchange to launder it all, and hundreds of child sex abuse consumers and producers.  It is a great story, and Andy brings it up to date in the interview as we dig into two massive, multi-billion seizures made possible by transaction tracing. In fact, for all the colorful characters in the book, the protagonist is really Chainalysis and its competitors, who have turned tracing into a kind of science. We close the talk by exploring Andy’s deeply mixed feelings about both the world envisioned by cryptocurrency’s evangelists and the way Chainalysis is saving us from that world.

Tracers in the Dark by Andy Greenberg

Episode 438: Tracers in the Dark by Andy Greenberg

Rick Howard, N2K’s CSO and the CyberWire’s Chief Analyst, and Senior Fellow, interviews Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer at WIRED, regarding his new book, “Tracers in the Dark.”

Rick Howard, N2K’s CSO and the CyberWire’s Chief Analyst, and Senior Fellow, interviews Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer at WIRED, regarding his new book, “Tracers in the Dark.”

Andy Greenberg Interview: Tracers in the Dark. [CSO Perspectives]

CSO Perspectives (public)

Andy Greenberg Interview: Tracers in the Dark.

Edward Snowden

(TIMESTAMPS &amp; Book Links in description below) ~ Andy Greenberg is an award-winning reporter, author, and hacking expert. Currently, Andy is a senior writer for WIRED, covering security, privacy, and information freedom. Throughout his career at Wired (and Forbes before that), Greenberg has been the go-to reporter on major international news stories including: Julian Assange &amp; Wikileaks, Ross Ulbricht &amp; Silk Road, Government-Sponsored hacking in Russia, China, &amp; North Korea –– and the underworld of cryptocurrency. He’s the author of “Sandworm” and “This Machine Kills Secrets” –– as well as the forthcoming book “Tracers in the Dark.” Furthermore, he was a main feature in the 2015 Documentary, “Deep Web,” about the downfall of Silk Road.  “Sandworm” by Andy Greenberg:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD4MFW2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1    “This Machine Kills Secrets” by Andy Greenberg: https://rb.gy/4k2suv    TIMESTAMPS***   0:00 - Intro; Andy remembers his first book about Wikileaks; The 2010 Collateral Murder Wikileaks drop; The Cypherpunks   18:03 - Andy talks about when Wikileaks came on his radar; How Andy got into contact with Julian Assange and landed 2010 in person interview with him in London; Andy talks about his sitdown Assange and what he thinks of him; How Wikileaks operates   43:54 - US Bias in Wikileaks reporting?; Assange and his impact on the 2016 election with the DNC email hack; Did Assange know who the source of the hack was?; Guccifer and how the DNC hack went down; The “religious” nature of the hacking argument   1:02:03 - How Andy came to discover the Sandworm story and begin reporting on it; The Ukrainian Power Grid takedowns of 2015 and 2016 and how it went down; The three agencies in Russia and where Sandworm fits in   1:23:57 - Andy explains NotPetya and the Ransomware attacks that groups like Sandworm in Russia utilized to hack and create chaos; The Equation Group hackers at the NSA; Zero Day explained; The Shadow Brokers and Eternal Blue; How Sandworm got into Ukraine’s power systems in 2015   1:37:48  - Andy tells the story of the 2017 Maersk global NotPetya attack; The downstream effects across many industries from the Maersk attack; The sobering reality of our modern day all-tech world; Andy explains what happened with the NSA’s Stuxnet attack on Iranian Nuclear Centrifuges   2:03:30 - Debating the Mutually Assured Destruction argument with respect to the cyberwar; China’s activity in international hacking; “If Russia is a hurricane, China is climate change”; North Korea’s criminal hacking teams; The White House just put a bounty on Sandworm   2:22:38 - We need a Geneva Convention for Cyber Warfare and Cyber crimes; The Obama and Trump Whitehouse positions on Russian hacking; Andy’s conversation about Sandworm with Obama’s Cybersecurity Czar J. Michael Daniel   2:39:22 - Boots on the ground  vs cyber

Julian Dorey Podcast

(TIMESTAMPS &amp; Book Links in description below) ~ Andy Greenberg is an award-winning reporter, author, and hacking expert. Currently, Andy is a senior writer for WIRED, covering security, privacy, and information freedom. Throughout his career at Wired (and Forbes before that), Greenberg has been the go-to reporter on major international news stories including: Julian Assange &amp; Wikileaks, Ross Ulbricht &amp; Silk Road, Government-Sponsored hacking in Russia, China, &amp; North Korea –– and the underworld of cryptocurrency. He’s the author of “Sandworm” and “This Machine Kills Secrets” –– as well as the forthcoming book “Tracers in the Dark.” Furthermore, he was a main feature in the 2015 Documentary, “Deep Web,” about the downfall of Silk Road. “Sandworm” by Andy Greenberg: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD4MFW2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD4MFW2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1</a> “This Machine Kills Secrets” by Andy Greenberg: <a href="https://rb.gy/4k2suv" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rb.gy/4k2suv</a> TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - Intro; Andy remembers his first book about Wikileaks; The 2010 Collateral Murder Wikileaks drop; The Cypherpunks 18:03 - Andy talks about when Wikileaks came on his radar; How Andy got into contact with Julian Assange and landed 2010 in person interview with him in London; Andy talks about his sitdown Assange and what he thinks of him; How Wikileaks operates 43:54 - US Bias in Wikileaks reporting?; Assange and his impact on the 2016 election with the DNC email hack; Did Assange know who the source of the hack was?; Guccifer and how the DNC hack went down; The “religious” nature of the hacking argument 1:02:03 - How Andy came to discover the Sandworm story and begin reporting on it; The Ukrainian Power Grid takedowns of 2015 and 2016 and how it went down; The three agencies in Russia and where Sandworm fits in 1:23:57 - Andy explains NotPetya and the Ransomware attacks that groups like Sandworm in Russia utilized to hack and create chaos; The Equation Group hackers at the NSA; Zero Day explained; The Shadow Brokers and Eternal Blue; How Sandworm got into Ukraine’s power systems in 2015 1:37:48  - Andy tells the story of the 2017 Maersk global NotPetya attack; The downstream effects across many industries from the Maersk attack; The sobering reality of our modern day all-tech world; Andy explains what happened with the NSA’s Stuxnet attack on Iranian Nuclear Centrifuges 2:03:30 - Debating the Mutually Assured Destruction argument with respect to the cyberwar; China’s activity in international hacking; “If Russia is a hurricane, China is climate change”; North Korea’s criminal hacking teams; The White House just put a bounty on Sandworm 2:22:38 - We need a Geneva Convention for Cyber Warfare and Cyber crimes; The Obama and Trump Whitehouse positions on Russian hacking; Andy’s conversation about Sandworm with Obama’s Cybersecurity Czar J. Michael Daniel 2:39:22 - Boots on the ground  vs cyber