Marisa Shipley's guest appearances

Marisa Shipley

Optimize Yourself

Working People

David Allen

Cal Newport

Nir Eyal

Scott Young

Ramit Sethi

Ben Greenfield

Gretchen Rubin

Darin Olien

James Clear

Jayson Calton

Mark Sisson

Shawn Stevenson

Mike Michalowicz

Liston Witherill

Kelly Starrett

OwlTail

Amy Thurlow

At the epicenter of the conversation last August during the most contentious portion of the IATSE contract negotiation was perhaps the IA stories Instagram account where literally hundreds of thousands of IATSE members discovered they weren't alone in enduring the horrors of working in Hollywood: Burnout, abusive working conditions, and sacrificing everything - including even their lives - to simply keep their jobs in the entertainment industry was apparently everyone’s story. Pandora’s Box opened, and it was clear people demanded change. Among those people are my guests today from Local 871 - Script Coordinator Amy Thurlow, and Art Department Coordinator Marisa Shipley.Marisa Shipley is the President of Local 871, as well as one of the founders of the IA Stories page. She has been on the front lines of the living wage and pay equity fight since 2018 and is committed to finding a collaborative approach to tackling these issues.Amy Thurlow was elected to represent Script Coordinators on the Board of Directors of Local 871 in December of 2021, and has been outspoken about the pay equity issues that have plagued her classification for decades.This conversation has been a long time in the making, and we go deep into the stories of abusive practices in their local, the criminally low wages they have endured, and the systemic nature of these problems across many other IATSE locals. You'll also hear Marisa describe the severe toll that running the IA stories page took on her health and well-being (which is ironic given how hard she works to protect the well-being of others), as well as her deep struggle with the negative blowback she received during the IATSE contract negotiations. Trust me when I say that standing up for what you believe is never easy. But our industry and the world needs more Marisa’s and Amy’s advocating for all of us.Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episodeHere's What You'll Learn:Why Local 871 has the moniker of The Island of Misfit Toys.What a script coordinator does and what their day to day looks like.The duties of the art department coordinator.The importance of these two roles to making sure things run smoothly between departments.What the hours and schedules are like for both of these jobs.The difference between being flexible and putting up boundaries.Why Marisa hates the words "can't you just..."The challenges that come with running a huge Instagram page like IA Stories.How Marisa got involved in pay equity issues in Local 871 and beyond.What motivated her to start the Instagram page IA stories and the intentions behind it.The incredible responsibility Marisa felt in taking on IA Stories.Dealing with the blowback of contract negotiations and how that affected Marisa.Why they made the intentional choice to not post about the specific contract negotiations and only focus on the stories.KEY TAKEAWAY: Setting boundaries is a personal responsibility that can also be supported collectively.Why it's important to get more involved in your guild's local.The unintended expectation that came from the IA Stories page and why it caused such anger in people after the contract vote.How different perspectives determine whether the contract was a win or a loss.KEY TAKEAWAY: We need systemic culture change AND we need personal responsibility.Optimize Yourself aims to show people HOW to set boundaries and take responsibility to create better working lives. Useful Resources Mentioned:Dear Hollywood: We Don’t Want to “Go Back to Normal." Normal Wasn’t Working.IATSE Stories (@ia_stories) • Instagram photos and videos How I burned out as a burnout coach (and then bounced back)Continue to Listen &amp; LearnI Was Tired of Putting My Kids to Bed via FaceTime Every Night. Here’s What I Did About It.Ep113: The Importance of Setting Boundaries, Advocating For Yourself, and Asking For Help | with Janace TashjianDear Hollywood...We Create Entertainment For a Living. We’re Not Curing Cancer.Ep128: How to Have a Successful Career Without Sacrificing Family | with Farrel LevyEp141: Michelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Career (Instead of Checkers) - pt1Ep142: Michelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Health &amp; Well-Being (Pt2)Ep106: On the Vital Importance of "Being Nice" | with Jesse Averna, ACEEp168: Hollywood On the Record: What’s REALLY Happening On Set? | with Shay’La Banks and Nickolaus Brown Ep112: On Signing COVID Waivers, Kit Rental Fees, and Working Humane Hours | with Cathy Repola, MPEG National Executive DirectorGuest Bio: Marisa Shipley is the President of Local 871 and a freelance Art Department Coordinator, Set Dec Coordinator and Construction Estimator for tv/film in Los Angeles. She initially got involved with the Local as a member of the ad-hoc Art Department Coordinators Public Relations Committee, working to get signatures on a petition showing support for better wages for her craft prior to 2018 negotiations. As the chair of the Local 871 #ReelEquity pay equity committee Marisa has focused on a collaborative approach to tackling pay equity issues affecting women in entertainment, particularly those working behind the camera.  Amy Thurlow is a writer and filmmaker currently living in Los Angeles, California. Amy has worked in television for many years. She started her career as a Writers' PA on the groundbreaking show GOSSIP GIRL and most recently Script Coordinated for Fox’s OUR KIND OF PEOPLE. Her other credits include TWO SENTENCE HORROR STORIES, SLEEPY HOLLOW, WITCHES OF EAST END, KRYPTON and NO TOMORROW. In December 2021, Amy was elected to represent Script Coordinators on the Board of Directors of Local 871. Amy graduated from the USC School of Cinematic Arts with a degree in Film and Television Production. Her work has been recognized by the WB Writers’ Workshop, Sundance Institute, Austin Film Festival and Final Draft Big Break Contest. Outside of writing and activism, Amy has a myriad of interests including performing the occasional stand up routine, teaching friends how to cook the perfect roast chicken, and deciding to run marathons even though she hates running. Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).

At the epicenter of the conversation last August during the most contentious portion of the IATSE contract negotiation was perhaps the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ia_stories/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IA stories</a> Instagram account where literally hundreds of thousands of <a href="https://iatse.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IATSE</a> members discovered they weren't alone in enduring the horrors of working in Hollywood: Burnout, abusive working conditions, and sacrificing everything - including even their lives - to simply keep their jobs in the entertainment industry was apparently everyone’s story. Pandora’s Box opened, and it was clear people demanded change. Among those people are my guests today from <a href="https://www.ialocal871.org/Reel-Equity" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Local 871</a> - Script Coordinator <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13258946/?ref_=fn_al_nm_4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amy Thurlow</a>, and Art Department Coordinator <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8845571/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marisa Shipley</a>.Marisa Shipley is the President of Local 871, as well as one of the founders of the IA Stories page. She has been on the front lines of the living wage and pay equity fight since 2018 and is committed to finding a collaborative approach to tackling these issues.Amy Thurlow was elected to represent Script Coordinators on the Board of Directors of Local 871 in December of 2021, and has been outspoken about the pay equity issues that have plagued her classification for decades.This conversation has been a long time in the making, and we go deep into the stories of abusive practices in their local, the criminally low wages they have endured, and the systemic nature of these problems across many other IATSE locals. You'll also hear Marisa describe the severe toll that running the IA stories page took on her health and well-being (which is ironic given how hard she works to protect the well-being of others), as well as her deep struggle with the negative blowback she received during the IATSE contract negotiations. Trust me when I say that standing up for what you believe is never easy. But our industry and the world needs more Marisa’s and Amy’s advocating for all of us.<h3>Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?</h3><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/subscribe/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode</a><h3>Here's What You'll Learn:</h3><ul><li>Why Local 871 has the moniker of The Island of Misfit Toys.</li><li>What a script coordinator does and what their day to day looks like.</li><li>The duties of the art department coordinator.</li><li>The importance of these two roles to making sure things run smoothly between departments.</li><li>What the hours and schedules are like for both of these jobs.</li><li>The difference between being flexible and putting up boundaries.</li><li>Why Marisa hates the words "can't you just..."</li><li>The challenges that come with running a huge Instagram page like IA Stories.</li><li>How Marisa got involved in pay equity issues in Local 871 and beyond.</li><li>What motivated her to start the Instagram page IA stories and the intentions behind it.</li><li>The incredible responsibility Marisa felt in taking on IA Stories.</li><li>Dealing with the blowback of contract negotiations and how that affected Marisa.</li><li>Why they made the intentional choice to not post about the specific contract negotiations and only focus on the stories.</li><li>KEY TAKEAWAY: Setting boundaries is a personal responsibility that can also be supported collectively.</li><li>Why it's important to get more involved in your guild's local.</li><li>The unintended expectation that came from the IA Stories page and why it caused such anger in people after the contract vote.</li><li>How different perspectives determine whether the contract was a win or a loss.</li><li>KEY TAKEAWAY: We need systemic culture change AND we need personal responsibility.</li><li>Optimize Yourself aims to show people HOW to set boundaries and take responsibility to create better working lives.</li></ul><h3> </h3><h3> Useful Resources Mentioned:</h3><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/dear-hollywood-normal-wasnt-working/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dear Hollywood: We Don’t Want to “Go Back to Normal." Normal Wasn’t Working.</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ia_stories/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IATSE Stories (@ia_stories) • Instagram photos and videos </a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/how-i-burned-out-as-a-burnout-coach-and-then-bounced-back/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How I burned out as a burnout coach (and then bounced back)</a><h3>Continue to Listen &amp; Learn</h3><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/facetime/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">I Was Tired of Putting My Kids to Bed via FaceTime Every Night. Here’s What I Did About It.</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/setting-boundaries-advocating-for-yourself-asking-for-help-janace-tashjian/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep113: The Importance of Setting Boundaries, Advocating For Yourself, and Asking For Help | with Janace Tashjian</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/we-create-entertainment-were-not-curing-cancer/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dear Hollywood...We Create Entertainment For a Living. We’re Not Curing Cancer.</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/how-to-have-successful-career-with-family-farrel-levy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep128: How to Have a Successful Career Without Sacrificing Family | with Farrel Levy</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/playing-chess-with-your-career-michelle-tesoro/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep141: Michelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Career (Instead of Checkers) - pt1</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/playing-chess-with-your-health-michelle-tesoro/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep142: Michelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Health &amp; Well-Being (Pt2)</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/vital-importance-being-nice-jesse-averna/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep106: On the Vital Importance of "Being Nice" | with Jesse Averna, ACE</a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/hollywood-on-record-whats-happening-on-set-shayla-banks-nickolaus-brown/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep168: Hollywood On the Record: What’s REALLY Happening On Set? | with Shay’La Banks and Nickolaus Brown </a><a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/covid-waivers-kit-rental-fees-working-humane-hours-cathy-repola/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ep112: On Signing COVID Waivers, Kit Rental Fees, and Working Humane Hours | with Cathy Repola, MPEG National Executive Director</a><h3>Guest Bio:</h3><a href="https://twitter.com/marisaship" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> <a href="https://instagram.com/marisaship" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8845571/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marisa Shipley</a> is the President of Local 871 and a freelance Art Department Coordinator, Set Dec Coordinator and Construction Estimator for tv/film in Los Angeles. She initially got involved with the Local as a member of the ad-hoc Art Department Coordinators Public Relations Committee, working to get signatures on a petition showing support for better wages for her craft prior to 2018 negotiations. As the chair of the Local 871 #ReelEquity pay equity committee Marisa has focused on a collaborative approach to tackling pay equity issues affecting women in entertainment, particularly those working behind the camera. <a href="https://twitter.com/athurlow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> <a href="https://instagram.com/amysnothererightnow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13258946/?ref_=fn_al_nm_4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amy Thurlow</a> is a writer and filmmaker currently living in Los Angeles, California. Amy has worked in television for many years. She started her career as a Writers' PA on the groundbreaking show GOSSIP GIRL and most recently Script Coordinated for Fox’s OUR KIND OF PEOPLE. Her other credits include TWO SENTENCE HORROR STORIES, SLEEPY HOLLOW, WITCHES OF EAST END, KRYPTON and NO TOMORROW. In December 2021, Amy was elected to represent Script Coordinators on the Board of Directors of Local 871. Amy graduated from the USC School of Cinematic Arts with a degree in Film and Television Production. Her work has been recognized by the WB Writers’ Workshop, Sundance Institute, Austin Film Festival and Final Draft Big Break Contest. Outside of writing and activism, Amy has a myriad of interests including performing the occasional stand up routine, teaching friends how to cook the perfect roast chicken, and deciding to run marathons even though she hates running. <h3>Show Credits:</h3>This episode was edited by <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4660321/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Curtis Fritsch</a>, and the show notes were prepared by <a href="https://optimizeyourself.me/author/dgermino/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Debby Germino</a> and published by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zenglen/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glen McNiel</a>.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of <a href="https://www.joecomposer.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Joe Trapanese</a> (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).

Ep174: Hollywood on the Record: The Real Story Behind @IA_Stories | with Marisa Shipley & Amy Thurlow

David McMahon

Fae Weichsel

Tens of thousands of members of the International Association of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE) are currently voting on whether or not to authorize a strike. If passed, the vote could lead 60,000 workers to walk off the job and bring the entertainment industry to a halt. As consumers, we tend to associate the entertainment industry with acting stars, elite directors and producers, and big studio executives, but hundreds and and even thousands of workers make every production possible, and many of them are grossly underpaid, overworked, and denied basic necessities like breaks and time to sleep between shifts. Combined with the explosion of streaming services and ever-increasing demands for studio-quality productions, workers in the entertainment industry are being run into the ground, and they have reached a breaking point.  IATSE represents over 150,000 technicians, artisans, and craftspersons in the entertainment industry, including live theatre, motion picture and television production, broadcast, and trade shows in the United States and Canada. The union is composed of many different locals, not all of which are currently voting to authorize a strike. According to  Deadline, "there are actually two separate strike authorization votes going on—one among the union’s 13 Hollywood production locals covered by the Basic Agreement, and the other covering 23 different locals outside Los Angeles who work under the Area Standards Agreement." In this urgent Working People episode, we talk to a panel of IATSE members about the work they do and the significance of the strike vote currently underway. Panelists include Marisa Shipley (Local 871), David McMahon (Local 52), and Fae Weichsel (Local 600).  Additional links/info below...   Petition: Tell AMPTP to Give Film and Television Workers a Fair Deal  IATSE  website,  Facebook page, and  Twitter page IATSE Stories on  Instagram,  Facebook, and  Twitter   IATSE Film &amp; TV Negotiations Toolkit IATSE Press Release: "AMPTP Film and Television Negotiations Stalled, Union to Hold Nationwide Strike Authorization Vote" Marissa's  Twitter page and  Instagram  David's  Twitter page  Fae's  Twitter page  Alex N. Press, Jacobin, "Film Industry Workers Are Fed Up With Long Hours" Brendan Gallagher, Jacobin, "If Hollywood Workers Strike, the Entertainment Industry Will Grind to a Halt" Gene Maddaus, Variety, "Everything You Need to Know About Hollywood’s IATSE Strike Vote" Dominic Patten &amp; David Robb, Deadline, "IATSE Members 'Deserve Respect' Says Union As Strike Authorization Ballots Hit Inboxes This AM"  Permanent links below...  Working People  Patreon page  Leave us a voicemail and we might      play it on the show! Labor Radio / Podcast Network  website,  Facebook page, and  Twitter page In These Times  website,  Facebook page, and  Twitter page The Real News Network  website,  YouTube channel,  podcast feeds,  Facebook page, and  Twitter page  Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive:  freemusicarchive.org)  Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song" 

Tens of thousands of members of the International Association of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE) are currently voting on whether or not to authorize a strike. If passed, the vote could lead 60,000 workers to walk off the job and bring the entertainment industry to a halt. As consumers, we tend to associate the entertainment industry with acting stars, elite directors and producers, and big studio executives, but hundreds and and even thousands of workers make every production possible, and many of them are grossly underpaid, overworked, and denied basic necessities like breaks and time to sleep between shifts. Combined with the explosion of streaming services and ever-increasing demands for studio-quality productions, workers in the entertainment industry are being run into the ground, and they have reached a breaking point.  IATSE represents over 150,000 technicians, artisans, and craftspersons in the entertainment industry, including live theatre, motion picture and television production, broadcast, and trade shows in the United States and Canada. The union is composed of many different locals, not all of which are currently voting to authorize a strike. According to <a href="https://deadline.com/2021/10/iatse-srike-authorization-ballots-sent-out-network-studios-labor-1234848042/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Deadline</a>, "there are actually two separate strike authorization votes going on—one among the union’s 13 Hollywood production locals covered by the Basic Agreement, and the other covering 23 different locals outside Los Angeles who work under the Area Standards Agreement." In this urgent Working People episode, we talk to a panel of IATSE members about the work they do and the significance of the strike vote currently underway. Panelists include Marisa Shipley (Local 871), David McMahon (Local 52), and Fae Weichsel (Local 600).  Additional links/info below... <ul> <li><a href="https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/tell-amptp-to-make-a-deal-with-behind-the-scenes-workers" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Petition: Tell AMPTP to Give Film and Television Workers a Fair Deal</a> </li> <li>IATSE <a href="https://iatse.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> website</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/iatse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Facebook</a> page, and <a href="https://twitter.com/IATSE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page</li> <li>IATSE Stories on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ia_stories/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/IATSE-Stories-107394548373840" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/ia_stories" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> </li> <li><a href="https://iatse.net/amptp-toolkit/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> IATSE Film &amp; TV Negotiations Toolkit</a></li> <li>IATSE Press Release: "<a href="https://iatse.net/amptp-film-and-television-negotiations-stalled-union-to-hold-nationwide-strike-authorization-vote/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">AMPTP Film and Television Negotiations Stalled, Union to Hold Nationwide Strike Authorization Vote</a>"</li> <li>Marissa's <a href="https://twitter.com/marisaship" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marisaship/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Instagram</a> </li> <li>David's <a href="https://twitter.com/DvMxMhn" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page </li> <li>Fae's <a href="https://twitter.com/fsweichsel" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page </li> <li>Alex N. Press, Jacobin, "<a href="https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/film-industry-workers-long-hours-overwork-iatse-labor-unions" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Film Industry Workers Are Fed Up With Long Hours</a>"</li> <li>Brendan Gallagher, Jacobin, "<a href="https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/09/if-hollywood-workers-strike-the-entertainment-industry-will-grind-to-a-halt" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">If Hollywood Workers Strike, the Entertainment Industry Will Grind to a Halt</a>"</li> <li>Gene Maddaus, Variety, "<a href="https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-strike-authorization-vote-explainer-1235076384/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Everything You Need to Know About Hollywood’s IATSE Strike Vote</a>"</li> <li>Dominic Patten &amp; David Robb, Deadline, "<a href="https://deadline.com/2021/10/iatse-srike-authorization-ballots-sent-out-network-studios-labor-1234848042/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">IATSE Members 'Deserve Respect' Says Union As Strike Authorization Ballots Hit Inboxes This AM</a>"</li> </ul> Permanent links below... <ul> <li>Working People <a href="https://www.patreon.com/WorkingPeople" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank"> Patreon</a> page</li> <li><a href="https://www.speakpipe.com/workingpeople" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Leave us a voicemail</a> and we might      play it on the show!</li> <li>Labor Radio / Podcast Network <a href="https://www.laborradionetwork.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> website</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LaborRadioNet/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Facebook</a> page, and <a href="https://twitter.com/laborradionet" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page</li> <li>In These Times <a href="https://inthesetimes.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> website</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/inthesetimesmag/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Facebook</a> page, and <a href="https://twitter.com/inthesetimesmag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page</li> <li>The Real News Network <a href="https://therealnews.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> website</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/therealnews" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> YouTube</a> channel, <a href="https://therealnews.com/our-shows-podcasts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> podcast</a> feeds, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/therealnews" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Facebook</a> page, and <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealNews" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> Twitter</a> page</li> </ul> Featured Music (all songs sourced from the Free Music Archive: <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> freemusicarchive.org</a>) <ul> <li>Jules Taylor, "Working People Theme Song"</li> </ul>

Lights, Camera, STRIKE! (w/ Marisa Shipley, David McMahon, & Fae Weichsel)