Dr Julia Minson's guest appearances

Dr Julia Minson

The Vegan Option - Vegetarianism: The Story So Far

Steven Pinker

Peter Singer

Andrew Knight

Benjamin Zephaniah

John Arnold

Deepak Kumar

Tristram Stuart

Jason BeDuhn

Ramachandra Guha

Aysha Akhtar

Dennis Kucinich

Chris Williamson

David Pearce

Armand D’Angour

Ruby Roth

OwlTail

Julia Minson

If you’re like most of our listeners, you get The Vegan Option show via the podcast feed – an automatic index of shows that’s read by iTunes, Stitcher and other “podcatchers”. (If you haven’t heard any of the shows – what are you waiting for? Use the “Listen” menu at the top, pick a show that piques your interest, and press play. That’s the other way of hearing episodes.) The shows usually focus on topics rather than individual interviewees – talking to a range of people to get a full picture. This can mean that only a few minutes out of an hour-long interview gets into the show. (This isn’t unusual for public radio documentaries.) Some full interviews are posted on the website – such as our conversations with Peter Singer and Gary Francione for the episode “Peace on Earth”. But should they go in the podcast feed as well? Diana asked on the Facebook page and “yes” not only won the vote, but for some people it was the only way to get the extended interviews.  So from now on, rough edits of extended interviews will go in the podcast feed as well as the website. This starts with Diana’s full conversation with Dr Julia Minson, part of the “Judgemental!” show:  (24 mins) (download or play MP3 file 16MB) If you want to only hear the edited shows – particularly if you are catching up with the archive – it’s easy to skip the extended interviews. They’ll still be there if you want to come back to them. More changes are coming, once the next show (about the dilemmas that vegans with cats face) is ready.

If you’re like most of our listeners, you get The Vegan Option show via the podcast feed – an automatic index of shows that’s read by iTunes, Stitcher and other “podcatchers”. (If you haven’t heard any of the shows – what are you waiting for? Use the “Listen” menu at the top, pick a show that piques your interest, and press play. That’s the other way of hearing episodes.) The shows usually focus on topics rather than individual interviewees – talking to a range of people to get a full picture. This can mean that only a few minutes out of an hour-long interview gets into the show. (This isn’t unusual for public radio documentaries.) Some full interviews are posted on the website – such as our conversations with Peter Singer and Gary Francione for the episode “Peace on Earth”. But should they go in the podcast feed as well? Diana asked on <a href="http://facebook.com/veganoption/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the Facebook page</a> and “yes” not only <a href="http://www.facebook.com/questions/505848099434094/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">won the vote</a>, but for some people it was the only way to get the extended interviews. So from now on, rough edits of extended interviews will go in the podcast feed as well as the website. This starts with <a href="http://theveganoption.org/2012/11/05/judgemental-social-attitudes-towards-vegetarians/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Diana’s full conversation with Dr Julia Minson</a>, part of <a href="http://theveganoption.org/2012/10/06/judgemental-colleen-patrick-goudreau-dr-julia-minson-marla-rose-do-goode/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the “Judgemental!” show</a>: (24 mins) <a href="http://archive.org/download/JudgementJuliaMinsonInterview/Judgemental_JuliaMinsonInterview_Feed.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(download or play MP3 file 16MB)</a> If you want to only hear the edited shows – particularly if you are catching up with the archive – it’s easy to skip the extended interviews. They’ll still be there if you want to come back to them. More changes are coming, once the next show (about the dilemmas that vegans with cats face) is ready.

Extended interviews on iTunes, starting with Dr Julia Minson

Judgemental! Those judgemental vegans. A charge you’ve probably heard (or perhaps even uttered). But what is “judgement”? How does it really affect the relationships between vegans and others? What can scientists say about it? And how do vegan activists react to the charge? Dr Julia Minson explains the science. Marla Rose explains exactly how Bacon Loving Hipsters Can Kiss Her Vegan Ass. And Colleen Patrick-Goudreau discusses the psychology and experience of “judgemental vegans”.  (30 min) Play or download (29 MB MP3) (other formats) (via iTunes)  Colleen Patrick-Goudreau The compassionate cook is a leading vegan advocate across several media, including podcasts (VegNews favourite podcast 2011). Another podcast host – Erin Grayson of Red Radio – has a tattoo that asks what Colleen would do. Just in case you haven’t heard of her, she’s the author of several vegan cookbooks, the producer of the 30 Day Vegan Challenge online course, and a speaker who is famous for espousing veganism in a spiritual and non-judgemental way. She relates Julia Minson’s research to her experience as an advocate, and discusses how she tries not to be judgemental – even at barbecues. Marla Rose Marla Rose practices a range of advocacy. Her Vegan Feminist Agitator blog and Bacon Loving Hipsters Can Kiss My Vegan Ass Facebook group offer vegans laughs; she’s written a book about a 15 year old vegan superhero with empathy superpowers; and when we called her home was in the midst of preparations for the outreach event Chicago Veganmania. Diana asks her if her humour is, perhaps, judgemental: and Marla describes how she resented the smug vegan who convinced her to drop animal products. Dr Julia Minson Julia Minson is a postdoctoral fellow in social psychology at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. She researches how attitudes change and “moral minorities”, a term which aptly defines vegans. She’s also a vegetarian. Julia talks with Diana about her research into attitudes to vegetarians, and how insulting vegetarians might make you more likely to adopt their views. Diana also discussed “Anti-social punishment” with Colleen. This is the phenomenon of punishing people for being too nice. (The more usual kind of punishment, such as jailing bank robbers, is “pro-social”.) References:  Julia discusses Do-Gooder Derogation : Disparaging Morally Motivated Minorities to Defuse Anticipated Reproach (PDF) (abstract), Julia A. Minson and Benoît Monin, Social Psychological and Personality Science 2012 3: 200   For an cultural study of anti-social punishment, look at page 9-10 of The Weirdest People in the World? (PDF) (abstract at cambridge.org), Joseph Henricha, Steven J. Heinea and Ara Norenzayan, Behavioral and Brain Sciences 2010 Vol 33: 2-3 pp 61-83  Thanks Our thanks go to Robb Masters for the music; and a hat tip to Our Hen House for originally mentioning Julia’s study in their own podcast. Production Note During our chat with Colleen, we played her Dr Minson’s interview and summarised Marla’s; and then I edited it together. The guests don’t sound like they’re on VoIP because this month all our guests sent us recordings of their side of the conversation. Thanks!

<h1>Judgemental!</h1> Those judgemental vegans. A charge you’ve probably heard (or perhaps even uttered). But what is “judgement”? How does it really affect the relationships between vegans and others? What can scientists say about it? And how do vegan activists react to the charge? Dr Julia Minson explains the science. Marla Rose explains exactly how Bacon Loving Hipsters Can Kiss Her Vegan Ass. And Colleen Patrick-Goudreau discusses the psychology and experience of “judgemental vegans”. (30 min) Play or download <a href="http://archive.org/download/TheVeganOptionJudgemental/theVeganOption_judgementalB.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(29 MB MP3</a>) <a href="http://archive.org/details/TheVeganOptionJudgemental" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(other formats)</a> <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/the-vegan-option-internet/id472440610" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(via iTunes)</a> <h3>Colleen Patrick-Goudreau</h3> The <a href="http://www.compassionatecook.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">compassionate cook</a> is a leading vegan advocate across several media, <a href="http://www.compassionatecook.com/category/media" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">including podcasts</a> (<a href="http://vegnews.com/articles/page.do?pageId=3806&amp;catId=6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VegNews favourite podcast 2011</a>). Another podcast host – Erin Grayson of <a href="http://erinred.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Red Radio</a> – has <a href="https://twitter.com/erinred/status/244651188849635328" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">a tattoo that asks what Colleen would do</a>. Just in case you haven’t heard of her, she’s the author of several vegan cookbooks, the producer of the<a href="http://www.the30dayveganchallenge.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> 30 Day Vegan Challenge online course</a>, and a speaker who is famous for espousing veganism in a spiritual and non-judgemental way. She relates Julia Minson’s research to her experience as an advocate, and discusses how she tries not to be judgemental – even at barbecues. <h3>Marla Rose</h3> Marla Rose practices a range of advocacy. Her <a href="http://veganfeministagitator.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vegan Feminist Agitator blog</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bacon-loving-Hipsters-Can-Kiss-My-Vegan-Ass/227960057649" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bacon Loving Hipsters Can Kiss My Vegan Ass Facebook group</a> offer vegans laughs; she’s written <a href="http://viviansharpe.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">a book about a 15 year old vegan superhero with empathy superpowers</a>; and when we called her home was in the midst of preparations for the outreach event <a href="http://chicagoveganmania.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chicago Veganmania</a>. Diana asks her if her humour is, perhaps, judgemental: and Marla describes how she resented the smug vegan who convinced her to drop animal products. <h3>Dr Julia Minson</h3> <a href="http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/~jminson/Site/WELCOME.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julia Minson</a> is a postdoctoral fellow in social psychology at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. She researches how attitudes change and “moral minorities”, a term which aptly defines vegans. She’s also a vegetarian. Julia talks with Diana about her research into attitudes to vegetarians, and how insulting vegetarians might make you more likely to adopt their views. Diana also discussed <a href="http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/~jjb/culturalvariation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“Anti-social punishment”</a> with Colleen. This is the phenomenon of punishing people for being too nice. (The more usual kind of punishment, such as jailing bank robbers, is “pro-social”.) References: <ul> <li>Julia discusses <a href="http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/DPlab/papers/publishedPapers/Minson_2011_Do-gooder%20derogation.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Do-Gooder Derogation : Disparaging Morally Motivated Minorities to Defuse Anticipated Reproach (PDF)</a> (<a href="http://spp.sagepub.com/content/3/2/200" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">abstract</a>), Julia A. Minson and Benoît Monin, Social Psychological and Personality Science 2012 3: 200</li> </ul> <ul> <li>For an cultural study of anti-social punishment, look at page 9-10 of <a href="http://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/pdfs/WeirdPeople.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Weirdest People in the World? (PDF)</a> (<a href="http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&amp;aid=7825833" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">abstract at cambridge.org</a>), Joseph Henricha, Steven J. Heinea and Ara Norenzayan, Behavioral and Brain Sciences 2010 Vol 33: 2-3 pp 61-83</li> </ul> <h3>Thanks</h3> Our thanks go to <a href="http://www.idiotech.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Robb Masters</a> for the music; and a hat tip to <a href="http://www.ourhenhouse.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Our Hen House</a> for originally mentioning Julia’s study in <a href="http://www.ourhenhouse.org/category/podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">their own podcast</a>. <h5>Production Note</h5> During our chat with Colleen, we played her Dr Minson’s interview and summarised Marla’s; and then I edited it together. The guests don’t sound like they’re on VoIP because this month all our guests sent us recordings of their side of the conversation. Thanks!

Judgemental: with Colleen Patrick-Goudreau, Dr Julia Minson, and Marla Rose