Joel Whitebook's guest appearances

Joel Whitebook

New Books in Critical Theory

New Books in Psychoanalysis

New Books in Psychology

New Books in History

New Books in Biography

New Books in Intellectual History

New Books Network

Freud Museum London: Psychoanalysis Podcasts

Psychoanalysis On and Off the Couch

NBN Book of the Day

New Books in the History of Science

Exchanges: A Cambridge UP Podcast

Philosophy Podcasts

Kerry Sulkowicz

Gita Vaid

Chris Heath

Michael Maccoby

Michael Diamond

Linda Emmanuel

Yehudah Fraenkel

Carine Minne

Steven Marans

Shahrzad Hashemi

Rosa Famini

Randall Paulsen

Jorge Ulnik

Kathryn McCormick

Leon Hoffman

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"A big part of my graduate education at Harvard was critical thinking. The general idea that theories come and go, even the data come and go because it’s modified as new experimental paradigms develop. So the idea of fixity. that “now we now know and it’s set in stone”, was not at all in my thinking by the time I left Graduate School if it ever had been."   Episode Description: Guest host, Dr. Joel Whitebook, interviews another elder from our field, Dr. Fred Pine. A discussion of the history of Dr. Pine's long and rich career is not only fascinating in its own right, but it also raises an important question: what combination of character traits and personal experience allows one to become an independent thinker? Dr. Whitebook also invites Dr. Pine to explain his basic theoretical approach which is both clinical and developmental. When he observes a phenomenon in an adult patient, Dr. Pine asks “what can we hypothesize about the person's development so that it would have produced the phenomenon in question?” And when he observes a developmental phenomenon, he asks the opposite question “what sort of adaptive and pathological phenomena might we expect to result from it in the person's later life?” It was through this use of a clinical/developmental approach that Dr. Pine was able to introduce many important innovations in our field.   Our Guest: Dr. Fred Pine is a Professor Emeritus in psychiatry at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. In 1956, he received his Ph.D. from Harvard University's Social Relations Program, where he studied with such eminent scholars as Henry Murray, Gordon Allport, Clyde Kluckhorn, and Talcott Parsons. After working for six years at the NYU Research Center for Mental Health, Dr. Pine did his psychoanalytic training at The New York Psychoanalytic Institute. In addition to his own extensive contributions to the literature, Dr. Pine was also a co-author of a psychoanalytic classic, The Psychological Birth of the Infant.   Recommended Readings:  Pine, F. (1979). On the Pathology of the Separation-Individuation Process as Manifested in Later Clinical Work: An Attempt at Delineation. Int. J. Psychoanal.  60:  226-242.   Pine, F. (1993). A Contribution to the Analysis of the Psychoanalytic Process. Psychoanal Quarterly. 62: 185-205, 1993.   Pine, F. (2004). Mahler's Concepts of "Symbiosis" and "Separation-Individuation":  Revisited, Reevaluated, Refined.  Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association. 52: 511-533.   Pine, F. (2006). If I Knew Then What I Know Now:  Theme and Variations.  Psychoanalytic Psychology. 23:1-7.   Pine, F. (2011). Beyond Pluralism:  Psychoanalysis and the Workings of Mind. Psychoanalytic Quarterly. 80: 823-856.   Pine, F. (2005). Theories of Motivation in Psychoanalysis. In: A Textbook of  Psychoanalysis. Eds.  Person, E. S., Cooper, A., and Gabbard, G. Washington, D.C.:American Psychiatric Assoc. Press, pp. 3-19.   Pine, F. (1998) Chapter 5. The ego in the session. In: Diversity and Direction in Psychoanalytic Technique. New Haven:  Yale Univ. Press 

"A big part of my graduate education at Harvard was critical thinking. The general idea that theories come and go, even the data come and go because it’s modified as new experimental paradigms develop. So the idea of fixity. that “now we now know and it’s set in stone”, was not at all in my thinking by the time I left Graduate School if it ever had been." Episode Description: Guest host, Dr. Joel Whitebook, interviews another elder from our field, Dr. Fred Pine. A discussion of the history of Dr. Pine's long and rich career is not only fascinating in its own right, but it also raises an important question: what combination of character traits and personal experience allows one to become an independent thinker? Dr. Whitebook also invites Dr. Pine to explain his basic theoretical approach which is both clinical and developmental. When he observes a phenomenon in an adult patient, Dr. Pine asks “what can we hypothesize about the person's development so that it would have produced the phenomenon in question?” And when he observes a developmental phenomenon, he asks the opposite question “what sort of adaptive and pathological phenomena might we expect to result from it in the person's later life?” It was through this use of a clinical/developmental approach that Dr. Pine was able to introduce many important innovations in our field.  Our Guest: Dr. Fred Pine is a Professor Emeritus in psychiatry at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. In 1956, he received his Ph.D. from Harvard University's Social Relations Program, where he studied with such eminent scholars as Henry Murray, Gordon Allport, Clyde Kluckhorn, and Talcott Parsons. After working for six years at the NYU Research Center for Mental Health, Dr. Pine did his psychoanalytic training at The New York Psychoanalytic Institute. In addition to his own extensive contributions to the literature, Dr. Pine was also a co-author of a psychoanalytic classic, The Psychological Birth of the Infant.  Recommended Readings:  Pine, F. (1979). On the Pathology of the Separation-Individuation Process as Manifested in Later Clinical Work: An Attempt at Delineation. Int. J. Psychoanal.  60:  226-242.  Pine, F. (1993). A Contribution to the Analysis of the Psychoanalytic Process. Psychoanal Quarterly. 62: 185-205, 1993.  Pine, F. (2004). Mahler's Concepts of "Symbiosis" and "Separation-Individuation":  Revisited, Reevaluated, Refined.  Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association. 52: 511-533.  Pine, F. (2006). If I Knew Then What I Know Now:  Theme and Variations.  Psychoanalytic Psychology. 23:1-7.  Pine, F. (2011). Beyond Pluralism:  Psychoanalysis and the Workings of Mind. Psychoanalytic Quarterly. 80: 823-856.  Pine, F. (2005). Theories of Motivation in Psychoanalysis. In: A Textbook of  Psychoanalysis. Eds.  Person, E. S., Cooper, A., and Gabbard, G. Washington, D.C.:American Psychiatric Assoc. Press, pp. 3-19.  Pine, F. (1998) Chapter 5. The ego in the session. In: Diversity and Direction in Psychoanalytic Technique. New Haven:  Yale Univ. Press

An Independent Thinker: Joel Whitebook Interviews Fred Pine

"The goal is to find magic which is not psychotic, to find a form of magic which isn’t simply the denial of reality. The nonpsychotic form of magic is play. The analyst and the patient have to learn to be able to play together in that transitional realm."   Description: Dr. Harvey Schwartz welcomes Dr. Joel Whitebook. Dr. Whitebook is a philosopher and a psychoanalyst and is on the faculty of the Columbia Center for Psychoanalytic Training and Research where he was the Director of the University’s Psychoanalytic Studies Program. Dr. Whitebook’s research centers on the attempt to integrate psychoanalysis and critical theory in the tradition of the Frankfurt School. Dr. Whitebook is  widely published but is mostly known for his masterwork,  Freud: An Intellectual Biography. In this work he brings together his philosophical and psychoanalytic ear and insightfulness to provide an overview and a deep understanding of Freud’s development.   In today’s conversation, Drs. Whitebook and Schwartz speak about magic in the history of psychoanalysis, and as it relates to religion, transference, play, and the healing process in general. Enjoy this simply fascinating talk.   Key takeaways: [9:44] Dr. Whitebook talks about what he learned about magic. [10:28] Enlightenment, magic, and disenchantment. [14:05] Dr. Whitebook talks about the often denied origins of psychoanalysis. [15:48] Dr. Whitebook explains the way in which psychoanalysis emerged out of hypnosis. [17:03] Hypnosis is an example of transference. [18:15] Psychoanalysis was born because of the way it repudiated suggestion. [19:55] Drs. Whitebook and Schwartz explore the concept of analytic magic/transference/love. [21:50] Transference and countertransference as vehicles for insight. [23:05] Enactment as a way of producing the material that then can be analyzed to achieve  insight. [25:01] Dr. Winnicott’s criticism of Freud’s notion of illusion. [28:09] The two principles of mental functioning. [29:48] Embracing external reality while respecting the forces of enchantment. [33:16] The desecularization of the world. [34:10] Dr. Whitebook talks about how magic is and has been immersed in his work. [36:20] Dr. Whitebook shares how he tried to untangle Freud’s objections to religions. [38:25] Freedom of speech occupies a central role in psychoanalysis. [39:43] Freud, Judaism, and psychoanalysis.   Mentioned in this episode: IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org  Learn more about Dr. Joel Whitebook   Recommended Readings:  Perversion and Utopia: Studies in Psychoanalysis and Critical Thinking, (Studies in Contemporary German Social Thought), Joel Whitebook    Freud: An Intellectual Biography, , Chapters, 8, 9, 11 &amp; 13. Joel Whitebook    Slow Magic: Psychoanalysis and the Disenchantment of the World.  Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association 50, no. 4 (2002): 1197-1217. Joel Whitebook    Jacob's Ambivalent Legacy. .American Imago (2010): 139-155. Joel Whitebook   Freud on Religion, (Acumen, 2104), Chapt, 4. Marsha Alleen Hewitt    Psychoanalysis and Magic: Then and now. American Imago (2009): 471-489. Mikita Brottman    Evening in the Palace of Reason: Bach Meets Federick the Great in the Age of Enlightenment, (Harper: 2016). James Gaines (This is a marvelous book that explores the fate of Bach's enchanted world of music when it encountered the Enlightenment.)

"The goal is to find magic which is not psychotic, to find a form of magic which isn’t simply the denial of reality. The nonpsychotic form of magic is play. The analyst and the patient have to learn to be able to play together in that transitional realm." Description: Dr. Harvey Schwartz welcomes Dr. Joel Whitebook. Dr. Whitebook is a philosopher and a psychoanalyst and is on the faculty of the Columbia Center for Psychoanalytic Training and Research where he was the Director of the University’s Psychoanalytic Studies Program. Dr. Whitebook’s research centers on the attempt to integrate psychoanalysis and critical theory in the tradition of the Frankfurt School. Dr. Whitebook is  widely published but is mostly known for his masterwork, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Intellectual-Biography-Joel-Whitebook/dp/0521864186" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Freud: An Intellectual Biography</a>. In this work he brings together his philosophical and psychoanalytic ear and insightfulness to provide an overview and a deep understanding of Freud’s development. In today’s conversation, Drs. Whitebook and Schwartz speak about magic in the history of psychoanalysis, and as it relates to religion, transference, play, and the healing process in general. Enjoy this simply fascinating talk. Key takeaways: [9:44] Dr. Whitebook talks about what he learned about magic. [10:28] Enlightenment, magic, and disenchantment. [14:05] Dr. Whitebook talks about the often denied origins of psychoanalysis. [15:48] Dr. Whitebook explains the way in which psychoanalysis emerged out of hypnosis. [17:03] Hypnosis is an example of transference. [18:15] Psychoanalysis was born because of the way it repudiated suggestion. [19:55] Drs. Whitebook and Schwartz explore the concept of analytic magic/transference/love. [21:50] Transference and countertransference as vehicles for insight. [23:05] Enactment as a way of producing the material that then can be analyzed to achieve  insight. [25:01] Dr. Winnicott’s criticism of Freud’s notion of illusion. [28:09] The two principles of mental functioning. [29:48] Embracing external reality while respecting the forces of enchantment. [33:16] The desecularization of the world. [34:10] Dr. Whitebook talks about how magic is and has been immersed in his work. [36:20] Dr. Whitebook shares how he tried to untangle Freud’s objections to religions. [38:25] Freedom of speech occupies a central role in psychoanalysis. [39:43] Freud, Judaism, and psychoanalysis. Mentioned in this episode: IPA Off the Couch <a href="http://www.ipaoffthecouch.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.ipaoffthecouch.org</a> Learn more about <a href="https://joel-whitebook.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Joel Whitebook</a> Recommended Readings: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Perversion-Utopia-Psychoanalysis-Critical-Contemporary/dp/0262731177" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Perversion and Utopia: Studies in Psychoanalysis and Critical Thinking, (Studies in Contemporary German Social Thought)</a>, Joel Whitebook <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Intellectual-Biography-Joel-Whitebook/dp/0521864186" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Freud: An Intellectual Biography</a>, , Chapters, 8, 9, 11 &amp; 13. Joel Whitebook <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00030651020500042601" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Slow Magic: Psychoanalysis and the Disenchantment of the World.  Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association 50, no. 4 (2002): 1197-1217</a>. Joel Whitebook <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236764693_Jacob's_Ambivalent_Legacy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Jacob's Ambivalent Legacy. .American Imago (2010): 139-155.</a> Joel Whitebook <a href="https://journals.equinoxpub.com/RST/article/view/29234/25530" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Freud on Religion, (Acumen, 2104), Chapt, 4.</a> Marsha Alleen Hewitt <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236721826_Psychoanalysis_and_Magic_Then_and_Now" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Psychoanalysis and Magic: Then and now. American Imago (2009): 471-489.</a> Mikita Brottman <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Evening-Palace-Reason-Frederick-Enlightenment/dp/0007156618" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Evening in the Palace of Reason: Bach Meets Federick the Great in the Age of Enlightenment, (Harper: 2016).</a> James Gaines (This is a marvelous book that explores the fate of Bach's enchanted world of music when it encountered the Enlightenment.)

Episode 068: The Fate of Magic in Psychoanalysis with Joel Whitebook, PhD 