Kathy Krol's guest appearances

Kathy Krol

BackTable Vascular & Interventional

The Kinked Wire

Mary Costantino

George Behrens

Dan Sze

Sandeep Bagla

David Wood

David Kim

Karen Brown

Justin Lee

David Liu

Eric Keller

Derek West

Raj Shah

Preston Smith

David Ball

Eric Wang

OwlTail

In this episode, host Dr. Mary Costantino interviews Dr. Kathy Krol, interventional radiologist and former SIR president about the evolution of interventional radiology, her various leadership roles, and the growth of women in IR.---CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORInari Medicalhttps://www.inarimedical.com/---SHOW NOTESWe begin by discussing how Dr. Krol entered the field of radiology and subsequently became involved in special procedures in radiology, before the beginning of interventional radiology. At the time, there was only a 7 French stiff wire, a J wire, or a straight wire. She recalls how the introduction of two key instruments, the glide wire, and the stent, changed the entire practice and scope of the types of interventions radiologists could do.Next, Dr. Krol talks about her involvement with SIR (Society of Interventional Radiology). She first joined a meeting at a hotel in San Francisco, where she was the only woman in the room, and repeatedly mistaken for a nurse. At the time, the society had recently allowed women to join, and since joining, she has never missed a SIR annual business meeting. During her time as the president of SIR, in 2006, some of the main issues were preserving IR as its own field among vascular surgery and interventional cardiology, forming an independent IR residency, and forming the idea of the outpatient-based lab (OBL) as a new space for IRs to work in.Dr. Krol shares stories of her struggles as a woman in IR as well as in leadership positions. She began in radiology, where she had to work hard to learn procedures, and then even harder to prove to colleagues that she was capable. She was often mistaken for a tech or a nurse and resorted to wearing suits instead of dresses while in the IR suite performing procedures. She often had to take whatever role was given, but she used this to her advantage. One such instance is when she wanted to volunteer for SIR, they put her in coding and billing which was not her interest. She turned this around and became so invested in it that she has now helped create nearly all the CPT codes that exist for IR today.

In this episode, host Dr. Mary Costantino interviews Dr. Kathy Krol, interventional radiologist and former SIR president about the evolution of interventional radiology, her various leadership roles, and the growth of women in IR. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR Inari Medical<a href="https://www.inarimedical.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.inarimedical.com/</a> --- SHOW NOTES We begin by discussing how Dr. Krol entered the field of radiology and subsequently became involved in special procedures in radiology, before the beginning of interventional radiology. At the time, there was only a 7 French stiff wire, a J wire, or a straight wire. She recalls how the introduction of two key instruments, the glide wire, and the stent, changed the entire practice and scope of the types of interventions radiologists could do. Next, Dr. Krol talks about her involvement with SIR (Society of Interventional Radiology). She first joined a meeting at a hotel in San Francisco, where she was the only woman in the room, and repeatedly mistaken for a nurse. At the time, the society had recently allowed women to join, and since joining, she has never missed a SIR annual business meeting. During her time as the president of SIR, in 2006, some of the main issues were preserving IR as its own field among vascular surgery and interventional cardiology, forming an independent IR residency, and forming the idea of the outpatient-based lab (OBL) as a new space for IRs to work in. Dr. Krol shares stories of her struggles as a woman in IR as well as in leadership positions. She began in radiology, where she had to work hard to learn procedures, and then even harder to prove to colleagues that she was capable. She was often mistaken for a tech or a nurse and resorted to wearing suits instead of dresses while in the IR suite performing procedures. She often had to take whatever role was given, but she used this to her advantage. One such instance is when she wanted to volunteer for SIR, they put her in coding and billing which was not her interest. She turned this around and became so invested in it that she has now helped create nearly all the CPT codes that exist for IR today.

Ep. 224 The Legends: An Interview with Dr. Kathy Krol

The CPT code may have certain required elements, and if you don’t put all of those in the report, you don’t get credit for doing the procedure. Or if the coders go ahead and code it, you could get audited later. So if someone goes to jail for fraudulent coding, you’ll be on the line as well as the coder, as the interventional radiologist—because you are ultimately responsible for what you bill.—Katharine L. Krol, MD, FSIRWarren Krackov, MD, FSIR, speaks with interventional radiologist Katharine L. Krol, MD, FSIR, about how interventional radiologists can make sure that they’re getting appropriately reimbursed and what SIR has done to fight Medicare cuts.Related resources from the Society of Interventional Radiology:Value of IR white paper2021 Interventional Radiology Coding UpdateValue of IR toolkitSIR 2021 annual meeting session (March 22, 2021): Standing Up for IR: Conveying our value and moving the field forwardNote: This episode was recorded on  March 13, 2021.SIR thanks Boston Scientific for its support of this episode.Contact us with your ideas and questions, or read more about about interventional radiology in IR Quarterly magazine or SIR's Patient Center.(c) Society of Interventional Radiology.Support the show

The CPT code may have certain required elements, and if you don’t put all of those in the report, you don’t get credit for doing the procedure. Or if the coders go ahead and code it, you could get audited later. So if someone goes to jail for fraudulent coding, you’ll be on the line as well as the coder, as the interventional radiologist—because you are ultimately responsible for what you bill.—Katharine L. Krol, MD, FSIRWarren Krackov, MD, FSIR, speaks with interventional radiologist Katharine L. Krol, MD, FSIR, about how interventional radiologists can make sure that they’re getting appropriately reimbursed and what SIR has done to fight Medicare cuts. Related resources from the Society of Interventional Radiology:<ul><li><a href="https://bit.ly/3eUnNiT" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Value of IR white paper</a></li><li><a href="https://sir.personifycloud.com/PersonifyEBusiness/Default.aspx?tabid=251&amp;productId=315606947" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2021 Interventional Radiology Coding Update</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sirweb.org/practice-resources/value-of-ir/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Value of IR toolkit</a></li><li><a href="http://sirmeeting.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SIR 2021 annual meeting</a> session (March 22, 2021): <a href="https://sirmeeting.org/2021/SIR/ajaxcalls/SessionInfo.asp?efp=R1NSQlhHU0UxMjk1Ng&amp;PresentationID=838313&amp;rnd=0.4542078" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Standing Up for IR: Conveying our value and moving the field forward</a></li></ul> Note: This episode was recorded on  March 13, 2021. SIR thanks <a href="https://bit.ly/34SwzsL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Boston Scientific</a> for its support of this episode. <a href="mailto:irq@sirweb.org?subject=Kinked%20Wire%20podcast">Contact us</a> with your ideas and questions, or read more about about interventional radiology in <a href="http://sirweb.org/irq" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IR Quarterly magazine</a> or SIR's <a href="https://www.sirweb.org/patient-center/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patient Center</a>. (c) <a href="http://sirweb.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Society of Interventional Radiology</a>.<a href="https://www.sirweb.org/corporate-gateway/advertising/" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Episode 19: Demystifying interventional radiology reimbursement | Guest: Kathy Krol