Eva Batt's guest appearances

Eva Batt

NZ Vegan Podcast

Gary Francione

Anna Charlton

Roger Yates

Gary L. Francione

Sam Tucker

Jordan Wyatt

Adam Kochanowicz

Corey Wrenn

Francis Glass

Jeff Lyons

Diane Ellis

Renata Peters

Emmy James

Jeffrey Coolwater

OwlTail

Listen HERE  This week I read an essay written by Eva Batt, long standing member of the UK Vegan society.  It is so well written, I am going to print it out and hand it around as part of my activism.  Thanks to Nathan Schneider who has it available on his blog Vegan Abolitionist and to Randy Sandberg who added it to the text page here at Abolitionist Approach  One of the things I loved about the article was this point: "...veganism has no connection with any political party or system, national or international.  Similarly, individual vegans may be deeply religious, perhaps devout Christians or disciples of one of many other faiths and creeds in this world, but this is not a requisite of veganism, which is an everyday, fundamental way of life concerned with living without hurting others.  The hereafter may, or may not, solve all our problems; but what we do now certainly affects all those around us..."  That is a wonderful statement is it not?  There are many more gems like this in the article.  It is worth a read or a listen, and I will be passing it along.  Enjoy!  Cool! - as I was uploading the audio, I watched Episode 7 of The Vegan News hosted by Adam Kochanowicz, and the show featured this very same article!  Check out the coverage at Vegan FM  UPDATE:  Professor Roger Yates left the following comment, and we were trying to get the links to become hyperlinks but I can't figure that out in the comments section either so I am posting the comment here, so you can access the links here:  Hi Elizabeth,  There are a couple of things I’d like to say on this important issue. First, we should remember that we are also vegan pioneers but in different and better circumstances. For example, we have the advantages of the internet and need never feel as isolated as the first vegans probably often did. Being a vegan is easier now than in the 1940s and 1950s (even compared to the 1970s when I became vegan). However, some new vegans are going to find it harder than others and we should help these new pioneers as much as possible, for mainstream animal advocacy neglects the fact that there is a vegan moral baseline to animal rights advocacy.  This brings me to the second point: what are we campaigning for. It seems to me that campaigning to grow the ethical vegan community (the surest means by which we can help other animals at this time) is campaigning for what we WANT as opposed to campaigning for what we DO NOT WANT in the name of politics, or pragmatics, or ‘living in the real world.’  For example, look at this 3-min video (just released this very week) about a cage-free system: http://www.worldpoultry.net/news/video-special-layer-aviary-system-4066.html Do we want to campaign FOR this sort of thing as many do, or do we want to campaign against by growing the numbers of ethical vegans?  Look at the pictures here: http://www.ciwf.ie/farminfo/farmfacts_egghens.html  We could say, ‘spot the difference,’ but the picture on the left is an ‘enriched’ battery cage and the other is a standard one. The first will probably have a perch in the back and maybe some ‘nesting material.’ Leaving aside the issue of who is going to monitor this new way of regulating atrocities, do we want to campaign FOR this sort of thing as many do, or do we want to campaign against by increasing the numbers of ethical vegans until we have enough numbers to make some real changes for nonhuman animals?  The real question is where do we put our energy, commitment, time and money. Do we concentrate on what we actually want, or on something else - which we then have to campaign against anew later on. The advocates of ‘cage-free’ (or one big horrible cage) must assume that, later, they will be campaigning against the system they helped to put in place in the first place.  Roger Yates

Listen <a href="http://ia600801.us.archive.org/34/items/NzVeganPodcastEpisodes/NZVeganPodcastEpisode29.m4a" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a> This week I read an essay written by Eva Batt, long standing member of the UK Vegan society. It is so well written, I am going to print it out and hand it around as part of my activism. Thanks to Nathan Schneider who has it available on his blog <a href="http://vegan-abolitionist.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vegan Abolitionist</a> and to Randy Sandberg who added it to the text page here at <a href="http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/text/why-veganism-by-eva-batt/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Abolitionist Approach</a> One of the things I loved about the article was this point: "...veganism has no connection with any political party or system, national or international. Similarly, individual vegans may be deeply religious, perhaps devout Christians or disciples of one of many other faiths and creeds in this world, but this is not a requisite of veganism, which is an everyday, fundamental way of life concerned with living without hurting others. The hereafter may, or may not, solve all our problems; but what we do now certainly affects all those around us..." That is a wonderful statement is it not? There are many more gems like this in the article. It is worth a read or a listen, and I will be passing it along. Enjoy! Cool! - as I was uploading the audio, I watched <a href="http://news.vegan.fm/?p=91" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Episode 7</a> of <a href="http://news.vegan.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Vegan News</a><a href="http://news.vegan.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> </a>hosted by Adam Kochanowicz, and the show featured this very same article! Check out the coverage at <a href="http://vegan.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vegan FM</a> UPDATE: Professor Roger Yates left the following comment, and we were trying to get the links to become hyperlinks but I can't figure that out in the comments section either so I am posting the comment here, so you can access the links here: Hi Elizabeth, There are a couple of things I’d like to say on this important issue. First, we should remember that we are also vegan pioneers but in different and better circumstances. For example, we have the advantages of the internet and need never feel as isolated as the first vegans probably often did. Being a vegan is easier now than in the 1940s and 1950s (even compared to the 1970s when I became vegan). However, some new vegans are going to find it harder than others and we should help these new pioneers as much as possible, for mainstream animal advocacy neglects the fact that there is a vegan moral baseline to animal rights advocacy. This brings me to the second point: what are we campaigning for. It seems to me that campaigning to grow the ethical vegan community (the surest means by which we can help other animals at this time) is campaigning for what we WANT as opposed to campaigning for what we DO NOT WANT in the name of politics, or pragmatics, or ‘living in the real world.’ For example, look at this 3-min video (just released this very week) about a cage-free system: <a href="http://www.worldpoultry.net/news/video-special-layer-aviary-system-4066.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.worldpoultry.net/news/video-special-layer-aviary-system-4066.html</a> Do we want to campaign FOR this sort of thing as many do, or do we want to campaign against by growing the numbers of ethical vegans? Look at the pictures here: <a href="http://www.ciwf.ie/farminfo/farmfacts_egghens.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.ciwf.ie/farminfo/farmfacts_egghens.html</a> We could say, ‘spot the difference,’ but the picture on the left is an ‘enriched’ battery cage and the other is a standard one. The first will probably have a perch in the back and maybe some ‘nesting material.’ Leaving aside the issue of who is going to monitor this new way of regulating atrocities, do we want to campaign FOR this sort of thing as many do, or do we want to campaign against by increasing the numbers of ethical vegans until we have enough numbers to make some real changes for nonhuman animals? The real question is where do we put our energy, commitment, time and money. Do we concentrate on what we actually want, or on something else - which we then have to campaign against anew later on. The advocates of ‘cage-free’ (or one big horrible cage) must assume that, later, they will be campaigning against the system they helped to put in place in the first place. Roger Yates

NZ Vegan Podcast Episode 29 - "Why Veganism?" by Eva Batt - published in 1964.  Wonderful article to give to friends