Andrew Kleine's guest appearances

Andrew Kleine

GovLove - A Podcast About Local Government

Go Cultivate!

Kirsten Wyatt

Shayne Kavanagh

Chuck Marohn

Sara Bronin

Brian Williams

Heather Worthington

Richard Rothstein

Mac Prichard

Lisa Morris

Chris Maddox

Jim O'Heir

Scott Neal

Ginger McCall

Sarah Martin

Peter Jones

OwlTail

Andrew Kleine is the author of "City On the Line" and is working tirelessly toward a future in which municipal budgeting produces the results that leaders are looking for. Shayne Kavanagh, the Senior Manager of Research for the Government Finance Officers Association, has spent his career looking at how government policy interacts with the fiscal health of the places in which he works.To some, municipal budgeting is a black box, but today's conversation aims to make this sometimes-confusing topic a little more transparent. Can the budgeting process be communicated to the public in a way that actually helps them understand and be a part of the process? The answer is yes. Kevin, Shayne, and Andrew look seriously at how we can we take a data-first approach to planning for the future and come up with ways for our budgets to actually produce meaningful results in our communities.Lots of great content to check out after you listen to this episode:https://www.gfoa.org/rethinking-budgetinghttps://bloombergcities.jhu.edu/category/budgeting-equitySome books worth checking out:City on the Line by Andrew KleineTrying Hard is Not Good Enough by Mark FriedmanThe Price of Government by David Osborne and Peter HutchinsonThe Art of Explanation by Lee LeFeverData Story by Nancy DuarteBack of the Napkin by Dan Roam

Andrew Kleine is the author of "City On the Line" and is working tirelessly toward a future in which municipal budgeting produces the results that leaders are looking for. Shayne Kavanagh, the Senior Manager of Research for the Government Finance Officers Association, has spent his career looking at how government policy interacts with the fiscal health of the places in which he works.To some, municipal budgeting is a black box, but today's conversation aims to make this sometimes-confusing topic a little more transparent. Can the budgeting process be communicated to the public in a way that actually helps them understand and be a part of the process? The answer is yes. Kevin, Shayne, and Andrew look seriously at how we can we take a data-first approach to planning for the future and come up with ways for our budgets to actually produce meaningful results in our communities.Lots of great content to check out after you listen to this episode:<a href="https://www.gfoa.org/rethinking-budgeting" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gfoa.org/rethinking-budgeting</a> <a href="https://bloombergcities.jhu.edu/category/budgeting-equity" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bloombergcities.jhu.edu/category/budgeting-equity</a>Some books worth checking out:<a href="https://www.amazon.com/City-Line-Baltimore-Transformed-Recession/dp/1538121875" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">City on the Line</a> by Andrew Kleine <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trying-Hard-Not-Good-Enough/dp/1439237867/ref=asc_df_1439237867/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312710253827&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=5993685969458745237&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9026842&amp;hvtargid=pla-491796104088&amp;psc=1&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=61681020945&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=312710253827&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=5993685969458745237&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9026842&amp;hvtargid=pla-491796104088" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Trying Hard is Not Good Enough</a> by Mark Friedman <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Price-Government-Getting-Results-Permanent/dp/0465053645" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Price of Government</a> by David Osborne and Peter Hutchinson <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Art-Explanation-Products-Services-Understand/dp/1118374584/ref=asc_df_1118374584/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312114711115&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=12334927163467856792&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9026842&amp;hvtargid=pla-514356257717&amp;psc=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Art of Explanation</a> by Lee LeFever <a href="https://www.amazon.com/DataStory-Explain-Inspire-Action-Through/dp/1940858984/ref=asc_df_1940858984/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=385492364860&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=17772490749023281422&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9026842&amp;hvtargid=pla-813970539276&amp;psc=1&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=79288121435&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=385492364860&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=17772490749023281422&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9026842&amp;hvtargid=pla-813970539276" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Data Story</a> by Nancy Duarte <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Back-Napkin-Expanded-Problems-Pictures/dp/1591842697" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Back of the Napkin</a> by Dan Roam

Rethinking Budgeting – with Andrew Kleine & Shayne Kavanagh

Budgeting for Outcomes. In his new book Andrew Kleine, the former Budget Director for the City of Baltimore, MD, challenges how local governments budget. He writes about how he changed budgeting in Baltimore to focus on outcomes rather than line items. He joined the podcast to talk about how he learned about outcome budgeting, the process of writing a book, and his career path in government. 

Budgeting for Outcomes. In his new book Andrew Kleine, the former Budget Director for the City of Baltimore, MD, challenges how local governments budget. He writes about how he changed budgeting in Baltimore to focus on outcomes rather than line items. He joined the podcast to talk about how he learned about outcome budgeting, the process of writing a book, and his career path in government.

#213 City on the Line: Outcome Budgeting with Andrew Kleine