Patrick Rollins's guest appearances

Patrick Rollins

The Adventurous Gentlemen

Adventure Made Podcast

ESEE / RAT Pack Podcast

Geoff Rowley

Joe Moore

Daniel Vitalis

Dan Doty

Brad Brooks

Josh Nordwick

Tim Endsley

Brady Miller

Dustin Hogard

Seth Spears

Joel Runyon

Tim Corcoran

Jess Johnson

Aron Snyder

Zach Even-esh

OwlTail

Shane Adams

Jeff Randall

 ESEE/RAT Pack Podcast Show NotesEpisode 5:  Dustin Hogard from Wazoo SurvivalDate Recorded:  3/12/22Duration: 1:11Location:  ESEE Global HQ Hosts:Jeff Randall, Patrick Rollins, &amp; Shane Adams            Summary:Dustin Hogard, Co-owner of Wazoo Survival Gear sits down and talks with Jeff Randall, Patrick Rollins, and Shane Adams about the origins of Wazoo Survival Gear.  He relates personal experiences that lead to the creation of many  Wazoo products and the role that the original Jungle Forums played in his curiosity and skill acquisition early in life.  Dustin is a well-traveled and well-spoken dude and shares some great stories.  We hope you enjoy it and give our friends over at Wazoo Survival Gear a follow or visit their website at the link below.PODCAST Link:  (SHARE THIS)https://eseeratpack.buzzsprout.com Instagram Accounts:@patrickrollins230@shaneadams90@eseeknives@wazoosurvivalgear@undercover.influencer Links:www.eseeknives.comwww.randallsadventure.comwww.ratsar.orgESEE ForumWazoo Survival GearWazoo Cache CapWazoo Bushcraft Necklace YouTube Accounts:ESEE Knives/ Randall’s Adventure &amp; Training Facebook:Randall’s Adventure &amp; Training / ESEE KnivesOfficial FaceBook Group Authors:My Side of the Mountain  by Jean Craighead George Tags:#esee, #eseeknives, #randallsadventure, #survival, #shotshow, #bushcraft, #survivalskills, #knives, #survivalknives, #randallsadventure, #podcast, #newpodcast, #randallsadventureandtrining, #wazoosurvivalgear, #wazoogear 

ESEE/RAT Pack Podcast Show Notes Episode 5:  Dustin Hogard from Wazoo Survival Date Recorded:  3/12/22 Duration: 1:11 Location:  ESEE Global HQ  Hosts: Jeff Randall, Patrick Rollins, &amp; Shane Adams             Summary: Dustin Hogard, Co-owner of Wazoo Survival Gear sits down and talks with Jeff Randall, Patrick Rollins, and Shane Adams about the origins of Wazoo Survival Gear.  He relates personal experiences that lead to the creation of many  Wazoo products and the role that the original Jungle Forums played in his curiosity and skill acquisition early in life.  Dustin is a well-traveled and well-spoken dude and shares some great stories.  We hope you enjoy it and give our friends over at Wazoo Survival Gear a follow or visit their website at the link below.PODCAST Link:  (SHARE THIS) <a href="https://eseeratpack.buzzsprout.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://eseeratpack.buzzsprout.com</a> Instagram Accounts: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/patrickrollins230/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@patrickrollins230</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shaneadams90/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@shaneadams90</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eseeknives/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@eseeknives</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wazoosurvivalgear/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@wazoosurvivalgear</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/undercover.influencer/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@undercover.influencer</a> Links: <a href="http://www.eseeknives.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.eseeknives.com</a> <a href="http://www.randallsadventure.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.randallsadventure.com</a> <a href="http://www.ratsar.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.ratsar.org</a> <a href="https://eseeknives.com/forums/index.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESEE Forum</a> <a href="https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&amp;ai=DChcSEwjavsG5sdz2AhXbFdQBHTwzCLUYABAFGgJvYQ&amp;ae=2&amp;ohost=www.google.com&amp;cid=CAESWuD2Qgzu4FIUl47H5lMJoaxY6r3r8YeLUxGNIRx7JvpKQbsilKOsejYRMAfWQg1AEKNaFrZh0QJQHpkro7m3YvIXxrVxiuEsZJ2l3N19I4YoJlNjBLNbzm6oQg&amp;sig=AOD64_0fDvUcb6du6W7ms2ExDnbzx9r4CA&amp;q&amp;adurl&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiB97W5sdz2AhVqmGoFHfcgCIsQ0Qx6BAgEEAE&amp;dct=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wazoo Survival Gear</a> <a href="https://wazoosurvivalgear.com/collections/hats" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wazoo Cache Cap</a> <a href="https://wazoosurvivalgear.com/collections/practical-pendants" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wazoo Bushcraft Necklace</a> YouTube Accounts: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf_aTygC7eePsrFniqodJWA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESEE Knives/ Randall’s Adventure &amp; Training</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/randalls.adventure" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Randall’s Adventure &amp; Training / ESEE Knives</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/280826768459" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Official FaceBook Group</a> Authors: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Side-Mountain-Puffin-Modern-Classics/dp/0142401110/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9OOPB3R7516J&amp;keywords=My+Side+of+the+Mountain&amp;qid=1648044521&amp;sprefix=my+side+of+the+mountain+%2Caps%2C136&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">My Side of the Mountain  by Jean Craighead George</a> Tags: #esee, #eseeknives, #randallsadventure, #survival, #shotshow, #bushcraft, #survivalskills, #knives, #survivalknives, #randallsadventure, #podcast, #newpodcast, #randallsadventureandtrining, #wazoosurvivalgear, #wazoogear

Episode 5:  Dustin Hogard from Wazoo Survival Gear, Jeff Randall, Patrick Rollins, and Shane Adams 

Patrick Rollins is the lead instructor for Randall's Adventure &amp; Training and is part of the team at ESEE Knives. He developed his enthusiasm for the outdoors from an early age, growing up camping, hunting, fishing, and a member of the Boy Scouts before spending 19 years as a Sheriff's Deputy in Whitfield County, Georgia. Since then, he has taught numerous classes in the US and the Amazon jungles of Peru. Randall's Adventure &amp; Training teaches survival, Bushcraft, land navigation, basic human tracking, single rope techniques, rope rescue, cave rescue, wilderness first responder, and Search and Rescue classes.Patrick is certified as a First Responder, Firearms Instructor, Glock Armorer, Rope Rescue Technician, Swiftwater Rescue Technician, and Wilderness First Responder. He has many hours of training in various skill sets, including woodland operations, wilderness survival training, land navigation, and tracking. He has been a Law Enforcement Instructor since 2001 and served on the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office Special Response Team (Entry and Sniper) from 2001 to 2004. Quotes:"Be adaptable.""Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.""Get out there and do it."Topics Discussed:5 Cs of survivability CuttingCombustionCordageContainerCoverPatrick's background &amp; love of the outdoorsThe difference between Survival &amp; BushcraftEsee's most popular knivesHow to get started in BushcraftDeciphering "good" informationThe start of Randall's Adventure &amp; TrainingGear testing &amp; customer feedback Knife steelsTesting the limits of gearFavorite knife styles and their applications Future company plansHow to manage ticks while in natureUnderstanding what a good knife isAre there too many outdoor companies?The outdoor class that everyone should takeThe "Glock" of knivesLife lessons from the outdoorsResources Mentioned:ESEE Knives Randall's Adventure &amp; Training Ontario Knife CompanyRowen ManufacturingBlade ShowShot Show#beatereseeOsprey BackpacksJames Gibson2% for ConservationDave CanterburyVictorinox Swiss Army War Bonnet HammockBig Agnes Copper Spur TentBlack DiamondTactical Intent Book: Camping and Woodcraft by Horace KephartBook: Adventure Travel In The Third World by Jeff Randall &amp; Mike Perrin Book: Bushcraft - Outdoor Skills and Wilderness Survival by Mors KochanskiPodcast: The Joe Rogan Experience The Adventure Made Podcast is sponsored by Rewild Gear. Essential gear built for the great outdoors, designed to fuel your next adventure. Come find your wild at RewildGear.com!

Patrick Rollins is the lead instructor for Randall's Adventure &amp; Training and is part of the team at ESEE Knives. He developed his enthusiasm for the outdoors from an early age, growing up camping, hunting, fishing, and a member of the Boy Scouts before spending 19 years as a Sheriff's Deputy in Whitfield County, Georgia. Since then, he has taught numerous classes in the US and the Amazon jungles of Peru. Randall's Adventure &amp; Training teaches survival, Bushcraft, land navigation, basic human tracking, single rope techniques, rope rescue, cave rescue, wilderness first responder, and Search and Rescue classes.Patrick is certified as a First Responder, Firearms Instructor, Glock Armorer, Rope Rescue Technician, Swiftwater Rescue Technician, and Wilderness First Responder. He has many hours of training in various skill sets, including woodland operations, wilderness survival training, land navigation, and tracking. He has been a Law Enforcement Instructor since 2001 and served on the Whitfield County Sheriff's Office Special Response Team (Entry and Sniper) from 2001 to 2004. Quotes:<ul><li>"Be adaptable."</li><li>"Get comfortable with being uncomfortable."</li><li>"Get out there and do it."</li></ul>Topics Discussed:<ul><li>5 Cs of survivability </li></ul><ol><li>Cutting</li><li>Combustion</li><li>Cordage</li><li>Container</li><li>Cover</li></ol><ul><li>Patrick's background &amp; love of the outdoors</li><li>The difference between Survival &amp; Bushcraft</li><li>Esee's most popular knives</li><li>How to get started in Bushcraft</li><li>Deciphering "good" information</li><li>The start of Randall's Adventure &amp; Training</li><li>Gear testing &amp; customer feedback </li><li>Knife steels</li><li>Testing the limits of gear</li><li>Favorite knife styles and their applications </li><li>Future company plans</li><li>How to manage ticks while in nature</li><li>Understanding what a good knife is</li><li>Are there too many outdoor companies?</li><li>The outdoor class that everyone should take</li><li>The "Glock" of knives</li><li>Life lessons from the outdoors</li></ul>Resources Mentioned:<ul><li><a href="https://www.eseeknives.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESEE Knives </a></li><li><a href="https://www.randallsadventure.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Randall's Adventure &amp; Training </a></li><li><a href="https://ontarioknife.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ontario Knife Company</a></li><li>Rowen Manufacturing</li><li><a href="https://bladeshow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blade Show</a></li><li><a href="https://shotshow.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Shot Show</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/beateresee/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">#beateresee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.osprey.com/us/en/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Osprey Backpacks</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/knobcreekforge54/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">James Gibson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fishandwildlife.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2% for Conservation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dave Canterbury</a></li><li><a href="https://www.victorinox.com/us/en/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Victorinox Swiss Army </a></li><li><a href="https://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">War Bonnet Hammock</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bigagnes.com/Gear/Collections/Copper-Spur-Series" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Big Agnes Copper Spur Tent</a></li><li><a href="https://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Black Diamond</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tacticalintent.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tactical Intent </a></li><li>Book: <a href="https://amzn.to/3iCEFv4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Camping and Woodcraft by Horace Kephart</a></li><li>Book: <a href="https://amzn.to/3BoeT68" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Adventure Travel In The Third World by Jeff Randall &amp; Mike Perrin </a></li><li>Book: <a href="https://amzn.to/3hTEw73" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bushcraft - Outdoor Skills and Wilderness Survival by Mors Kochanski</a></li><li>Podcast: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Joe Rogan Experience </a></li></ul>The Adventure Made Podcast is sponsored by Rewild Gear. Essential gear built for the great outdoors, designed to fuel your next adventure. Come find your wild at <a href="https://rewildgear.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">RewildGear.com</a>!

Ep 19: Patrick Rollins on Knives, Bushcraft, & Survival Training

Adventurous Gentleman Podcast Patrick Rollins   Summary On this episode of the Adventurous Gentleman Podcast, Patrick Rollins joins the show to discuss his experience as a wilderness survival teacher, his passion for the outdoors, important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft as well as some gear suggestions.   Biography Patrick is a lead instructor at Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival. From 1993-2012, he was a Sheriff’s Deputy with the Whitfield County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia. Patrick is a certified First Responder, Firearms Instructor, Glock Armorer, Rope Rescue Technician, Swiftwater Rescue Technician (Rescue 3 International) and Wilderness First Responder (WFR). He’s trained in woodland operations, wilderness survival training, land navigation and training. Patrick has designed a highly acclaimed knife, the PR-4, for ESEE.  Today on the show we discuss: Patrick’s upbringing and his passion for the outdoors Patrick’s transition from a 21-year career with the Sheriff’s Office in Georgia to the Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival How taking on this job has changed him personally Randall’s Adventure Training School The 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft The PR-4 knife Patrick designed for ESSE Patrick’s go-to knives Survival skills in the jungle Patrick’s experiences teaching in Peru and the Amazon Patrick’s go-to gear    [0:00] Introduction to show [1:20] Introduction to guest, Patrick Rollins [2:56] How did you get involved in the outdoors? I grew up exposed to Red Dawn, First Blood and developed an interest in the outdoors early on. I joined Boy Scouts and had a coach at school show me Jeremiah Johnson, where I developed an interest in primitive skills. [4:40] Inspired as a child, how do you get from there to where you are today? I got into law enforcement right out of high school. In 2009, I took a 5-Day Wilderness Operations course at Randall’s Adventure Training Camp through work because of its similarities to a law enforcement camp. I learned basic human tracking, basic survival, land navigation and ropes. I fell in love. [6:20] Teaching classes at Randall’s I was asked to come back and teach classes at Randall’s Adventures. I would take a week off of vacation at a time. By 2012, I began teaching jungle survival in Peru. In 2012, another instructor and I were taking group to the Amazon by ourselves. This was a turning point where they were handing over the reigns the jungle instructor course to me. [7:00] A new career In October 2012, Patrick was offered a full-time job with the same salary to continue his work with Randall’s instead of his current job as Administrative Lieutenant of the Patrol Division at the Sheriff's Office. Everyone in his life said “go for it, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity” and his boss offered a place for him if the job at Randall’s didn’t work out. Patrick left his full-time job, an administrative job in an office to pursue his dream. He doesn’t miss it. Even during his hardest class, in the elements and he hasn’t slept in 3 days, it never seems like work to him. It’s just an adventure. [9:33] How have you changed personally since starting this job full-time? Starting this job has freed up time to do stuff that I love. Before I would have to do things on my own time, now it’s a part of my job. I don’t feel guilty that I have to take time away from anything or anyone else, it’s improving my skills too. [10:23] What are the 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft? Tool use - A lot of the tool use in bushcraft (primarily a knife). It’s essential to be good with a knife. 2. Fire. The ability to get it going when it’s bright and sunny, but also when it’s rainy and cold. 3. Be able to adapt and think outside of the box. To think of different ways you can use different items to your advantage. [12:27] Experiences while in Peru Using your knife to its fullest potential takes practice, learning different skills and what you can get away with. In Peru, you see people who can use machetes to their full potential and it’s amazing. You can entirely clean and process a chicken, gut and clean a piranha. You can watch the finess and it hammers home that there’s a lot you can do with a sharp blade. Living the the US, it’s about having the best, most high-quality stuff but for those living in Peru, it’s just living. [15:46] How many knives have you designed now?  Only 1, the PR-4. I was asked to design a knife that I would want to use in the woods. No plans to design more because I am not a designer. The inspiration for the PR-4 design Horace Kephart’s classic design. The knife has a spearheart blade, 4” blade, ⅛” thick. [17:12] What was it like seeing the first prototype? Connected with a blacksmith friend of a friend who created a prototype. The craftsmanship was second to none. Used it for 2 or so years before it was put into production. Never had any problems with it. It’s a simple design. [19:40] Use the right tool for the job The knife industry these days is more gimmicky, adding thicker blades, sawback, chop, saw and everything with it. You’re adding too much. It’ll never saw as well as a saw, chop as well as an axe and now never function well as a knife. I want knives to be knives. If you have an axe, use it for chopping. Use the knife for the knife tasks. Sometimes people want to buy their way out of learning something [20:54] What was your go-to knife before you designed one? The regular ESSE 3. I like a thin blade, ⅛” thick is thick enough for me. Then we came out with a 3HM, it has a rounded and more contoured handle. [21:23] Why a thinner blade versus a thick blade? When you get into notches, trap triggers, etc. A thick blade can make it more difficult. Our ESSE 5 is a ¼” thick that is meant to cut, pry and chop your way out of a crashed helicopter. This is way too thick and heavy. A small blade allows you to be more capable of handling it intricacy better. [22:20] What was your first trip down to Peru and the Amazon like? Knife skills and fire are where my passion lies. I came down this first trip to teach how to make fire in a rainforest. There was a moment of “maybe I’m in too deep.” It’s a fun place to visit but not to live. There was intense heat, humidity and so many insects. By the time I had been down there 2-3 times, I was handed off to be the lead instructor without supervision and pretty confident. The other instructor, Reuben, had been to multiple jungles around the world so I felt confident about the skills we had between us. Additionally, we always use the same guide, Percy, who provides teaches about the plants and animals of the jungle. [25:15] When you’re down there, do you eat whatever you find or do you bring food? As instructors, we’ll sneak some extra food to keep us going. You have to maintain a clear head and ability to teach everyday. With the heat and humidity, I don’t get that hungry but ensure we maintain enough calories. For the students, look for food close to shelter or water source. Especially catching food. There might be 2-3 days without food though so we do scout around for animals. [27:30] Cooking animals found in the jungle [29:03] Strange things Patrick has eaten in the jungle Think of it just as calories and the energy that you’ll get from it. [29:55] Has the jungle been the toughest place that you’ve had to do survival training or other ecosystems that are just as challenging or more so? The jungle has heat, humidity, bugs and constant rain so that is challenging to deal with. I grew up in the Southeastern Woodlands, that is the most comfortable arena for me. As long as you can find water. The desert would be the most challenging because water is scarce. I haven’t done anything in the extreme North. [31:14] Other than a knife, do you have a favorite piece of equipment you take with you? I have a H&amp;B Forge Medium Camp Hawk. Short 19” handle with a hammer pull. Been with me on every trip. Light-weight and almost always with me. [31:50] What are common mistakes people make when they’re on survival or bushcraft trips on their own? When I teach classes, I find people can overestimate their skill level. They’ve grown up hunting, camping, etc. and you assume you can build a fire, for example. It’s an eye-opener. If there’s a chance your life might depend on a certain skill, you will want to have practiced it a whole lot before that moment comes. [34:25] Is there anything that sticks out as the worst disaster while out there in the field? We’ve been really fortunate about accidents. Before getting into using any sharp tools, we teach a safety class. We did have a case of a gentleman in a 3-day survival class who used the machete and cut himself on his opposite shin. [36:05] What’s your gear list look like? Information and links below [39:26] With canoe camping, what type of canoe are you rocking? Information and links below [41:50] Always an interesting day in this profession This profession allows you to meet varied and interesting people; bridge the gap between hunting and outdoor communities [44:30] When you’re out in the jungle, is there ever something you’re not looking forward to doing? Not really, worst part is just being in the environment, the jungle. The energy level drops as the days progress. [48:37] Thanks for joining us!  Links &amp; Resources Mentioned In This Episode: We have a new code with Outdoor Vitals - they have the #1 sleeping bags sold on Amazon, great packs, sleeping bags, tarps and hammocks. When you spend over $50, use the code GENTLEMEN at checkout and get a free camping pillow.   If you’re looking for optics, check out Maven Built for binoculars or spotting scopes. Use the code NBHGIFT at checkout for free maven swag with order.   If you’re looking for supplements from MTN OPS Outdoor Performance Supplements, use coupon code TAG10 when you make purchase for 10% off order.   Patrick’s Camping Gear:  ⅛” knife: ESSE PR-4, 3 or 3HM Sleeping bag: Proforce Softie 9 Hawk Sleeping pad: Therm-a-Rest Prolite Tent: Big Agnes Copper Spur 2 Tent for canoe camping: Kifaru Sawtooth Hiking boots: Salomon 4D GTX Axe: H&amp;B Forge Medium Camp Hawk Fire rod: Swedish FireSteel Light My Fire Rod Canoe: Old Town 147   Contact Patrick at Randall’s Adventures Learn more about or take a class with Randall’s Adventures Learn more about ESEE products Subscribe to Randall’s Adventures and ESEE on YouTube Buy Patrick’s ESEE-P4 knife

Adventurous Gentleman Podcast Patrick Rollins Summary On this episode of the Adventurous Gentleman Podcast, Patrick Rollins joins the show to discuss his experience as a wilderness survival teacher, his passion for the outdoors, important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft as well as some gear suggestions. Biography Patrick is a lead instructor at Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival. From 1993-2012, he was a Sheriff’s Deputy with the Whitfield County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia. Patrick is a certified First Responder, Firearms Instructor, Glock Armorer, Rope Rescue Technician, Swiftwater Rescue Technician (Rescue 3 International) and Wilderness First Responder (WFR). He’s trained in woodland operations, wilderness survival training, land navigation and training. Patrick has designed a highly acclaimed knife, the PR-4, for ESEE. Today on the show we discuss: <ul><li>Patrick’s upbringing and his passion for the outdoors</li> <li>Patrick’s transition from a 21-year career with the Sheriff’s Office in Georgia to the Randall’s Adventure in Training School of Survival</li> <li>How taking on this job has changed him personally</li> <li>Randall’s Adventure Training School</li> <li>The 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft</li> <li>The PR-4 knife Patrick designed for ESSE</li> <li>Patrick’s go-to knives</li> <li>Survival skills in the jungle</li> <li>Patrick’s experiences teaching in Peru and the Amazon</li> <li>Patrick’s go-to gear</li> </ul> [0:00] Introduction to show [1:20] Introduction to guest, Patrick Rollins [2:56] How did you get involved in the outdoors? I grew up exposed to Red Dawn, First Blood and developed an interest in the outdoors early on. I joined Boy Scouts and had a coach at school show me <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Johnson_(film)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jeremiah Johnson</a>, where I developed an interest in primitive skills. [4:40] Inspired as a child, how do you get from there to where you are today? I got into law enforcement right out of high school. In 2009, I took a 5-Day Wilderness Operations course at Randall’s Adventure Training Camp through work because of its similarities to a law enforcement camp. I learned basic human tracking, basic survival, land navigation and ropes. I fell in love. [6:20] Teaching classes at Randall’s I was asked to come back and teach classes at Randall’s Adventures. I would take a week off of vacation at a time. By 2012, I began teaching jungle survival in Peru. In 2012, another instructor and I were taking group to the Amazon by ourselves. This was a turning point where they were handing over the reigns the jungle instructor course to me. [7:00] A new career In October 2012, Patrick was offered a full-time job with the same salary to continue his work with Randall’s instead of his current job as Administrative Lieutenant of the Patrol Division at the Sheriff's Office. Everyone in his life said “go for it, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity” and his boss offered a place for him if the job at Randall’s didn’t work out. Patrick left his full-time job, an administrative job in an office to pursue his dream. He doesn’t miss it. Even during his hardest class, in the elements and he hasn’t slept in 3 days, it never seems like work to him. It’s just an adventure. [9:33] How have you changed personally since starting this job full-time? Starting this job has freed up time to do stuff that I love. Before I would have to do things on my own time, now it’s a part of my job. I don’t feel guilty that I have to take time away from anything or anyone else, it’s improving my skills too. [10:23] What are the 3 most important skills when it comes to survival and bushcraft? <ol><li>Tool use - A lot of the tool use in bushcraft (primarily a knife). It’s essential to be good with a knife. 2. Fire. The ability to get it going when it’s bright and sunny, but also when it’s rainy and cold. 3. Be able to adapt and think outside of the box. To think of different ways you can use different items to your advantage.</li> </ol>[12:27] Experiences while in Peru Using your knife to its fullest potential takes practice, learning different skills and what you can get away with. In Peru, you see people who can use machetes to their full potential and it’s amazing. You can entirely clean and process a chicken, gut and clean a piranha. You can watch the finess and it hammers home that there’s a lot you can do with a sharp blade. Living the the US, it’s about having the best, most high-quality stuff but for those living in Peru, it’s just living. [15:46] How many knives have you designed now? Only 1, the <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/camp-lore-knives/pr4/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PR-4</a>. I was asked to design a knife that I would want to use in the woods. No plans to design more because I am not a designer. The inspiration for the <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/camp-lore-knives/pr4/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">PR-4</a> design Horace Kephart’s classic design. The knife has a spearheart blade, 4” blade, ⅛” thick. [17:12] What was it like seeing the first prototype? Connected with a blacksmith friend of a friend who created a prototype. The craftsmanship was second to none. Used it for 2 or so years before it was put into production. Never had any problems with it. It’s a simple design. [19:40] Use the right tool for the job The knife industry these days is more gimmicky, adding thicker blades, sawback, chop, saw and everything with it. You’re adding too much. It’ll never saw as well as a saw, chop as well as an axe and now never function well as a knife. I want knives to be knives. If you have an axe, use it for chopping. Use the knife for the knife tasks. Sometimes people want to buy their way out of learning something [20:54] What was your go-to knife before you designed one? The regular <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/esee-knives/esee-3/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESSE 3</a>. I like a thin blade, ⅛” thick is thick enough for me. Then we came out with a <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/esee-knives/esee-3hm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">3HM</a>, it has a rounded and more contoured handle. [21:23] Why a thinner blade versus a thick blade? When you get into notches, trap triggers, etc. A thick blade can make it more difficult. Our <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/esee-knives/esee-5/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESSE 5</a> is a ¼” thick that is meant to cut, pry and chop your way out of a crashed helicopter. This is way too thick and heavy. A small blade allows you to be more capable of handling it intricacy better. [22:20] What was your first trip down to Peru and the Amazon like? Knife skills and fire are where my passion lies. I came down this first trip to teach how to make fire in a rainforest. There was a moment of “maybe I’m in too deep.” It’s a fun place to visit but not to live. There was intense heat, humidity and so many insects. By the time I had been down there 2-3 times, I was handed off to be the lead instructor without supervision and pretty confident. The other instructor, Reuben, had been to multiple jungles around the world so I felt confident about the skills we had between us. Additionally, we always use the same guide, Percy, who provides teaches about the plants and animals of the jungle. [25:15] When you’re down there, do you eat whatever you find or do you bring food? As instructors, we’ll sneak some extra food to keep us going. You have to maintain a clear head and ability to teach everyday. With the heat and humidity, I don’t get that hungry but ensure we maintain enough calories. For the students, look for food close to shelter or water source. Especially catching food. There might be 2-3 days without food though so we do scout around for animals. [27:30] Cooking animals found in the jungle [29:03] Strange things Patrick has eaten in the jungle Think of it just as calories and the energy that you’ll get from it. [29:55] Has the jungle been the toughest place that you’ve had to do survival training or other ecosystems that are just as challenging or more so? The jungle has heat, humidity, bugs and constant rain so that is challenging to deal with. I grew up in the Southeastern Woodlands, that is the most comfortable arena for me. As long as you can find water. The desert would be the most challenging because water is scarce. I haven’t done anything in the extreme North. [31:14] Other than a knife, do you have a favorite piece of equipment you take with you? I have a <a href="http://www.hbforge.com/polled-axes/medium-camp-axe" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">H&amp;B Forge Medium Camp Hawk</a>. Short 19” handle with a hammer pull. Been with me on every trip. Light-weight and almost always with me. [31:50] What are common mistakes people make when they’re on survival or bushcraft trips on their own? When I teach classes, I find people can overestimate their skill level. They’ve grown up hunting, camping, etc. and you assume you can build a fire, for example. It’s an eye-opener. If there’s a chance your life might depend on a certain skill, you will want to have practiced it a whole lot before that moment comes. [34:25] Is there anything that sticks out as the worst disaster while out there in the field? We’ve been really fortunate about accidents. Before getting into using any sharp tools, we teach a safety class. We did have a case of a gentleman in a 3-day survival class who used the machete and cut himself on his opposite shin. [36:05] What’s your gear list look like? Information and links below [39:26] With canoe camping, what type of canoe are you rocking? Information and links below [41:50] Always an interesting day in this profession This profession allows you to meet varied and interesting people; bridge the gap between hunting and outdoor communities [44:30] When you’re out in the jungle, is there ever something you’re not looking forward to doing? Not really, worst part is just being in the environment, the jungle. The energy level drops as the days progress. [48:37] Thanks for joining us! Links &amp; Resources Mentioned In This Episode: We have a new code with <a href="http://outdoorvitals.com?rfsn=920383.1cd90" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Outdoor Vitals</a> - they have the #1 sleeping bags sold on Amazon, great packs, sleeping bags, tarps and hammocks. When you spend over $50, use the code GENTLEMEN at checkout and get a free camping pillow. If you’re looking for optics, check out <a href="https://mavenbuilt.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Maven Built</a> for binoculars or spotting scopes. Use the code NBHGIFT at checkout for free maven swag with order. If you’re looking for supplements from <a href="https://mtnops.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MTN OPS Outdoor Performance Supplements</a>, use coupon code TAG10 when you make purchase for 10% off order. Patrick’s Camping Gear: ⅛” knife: <a href="https://eseeknives.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESSE PR-4, 3 or 3HM</a> Sleeping bag: <a href="http://www.proforceequipment.com/product-details.php?id=167&amp;catid=7" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Proforce Softie 9 Hawk</a> Sleeping pad: <a href="https://www.thermarest.com/prolite-10" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Therm-a-Rest Prolite</a> Tent: <a href="https://www.bigagnes.com/Copper-Spur-HV-UL2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Big Agnes Copper Spur 2</a> Tent for canoe camping: <a href="https://store.kifaru.net/sawtooth-p86.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kifaru Sawtooth</a> Hiking boots: <a href="https://www.salomon.com/us/product/quest-4d-2-gtx.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Salomon 4D GTX</a> Axe: <a href="http://www.hbforge.com/polled-axes/medium-camp-axe" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">H&amp;B Forge Medium Camp Hawk</a> Fire rod: <a href="http://www.lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-firesteel-20.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Swedish FireSteel Light My Fire Rod</a> Canoe: <a href="https://www.oldtowncanoe.com/canoes/recreation/guide_147/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Old Town 147</a> Contact <a href="https://randallsadventure.com/instructors/patrick-rollins/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patrick at Randall’s Adventures</a> Learn more about or take a class with <a href="https://randallsadventure.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Randall’s Adventures</a> Learn more about <a href="https://randallsadventure.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESEE</a> products Subscribe to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/randallsadventure" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Randall’s Adventures and ESEE on YouTube</a> Buy Patrick’s <a href="https://eseeknives.com/knives/camp-lore-knives/pr4/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ESEE-P4 knife</a>

Patrick Rollins - ESEE Knives - The Adventurous Gentlemen Podcast 