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https://emergingcommunities.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/br-michael-interview.mp3  Having just come from Koinonia Farm and gleaned from conversations there that, among some in the New Monasticism movement, there is a growing interest in connecting more deeply with the classic monastic tradition, I was eager to bring “old-school” monastics into the conversation. Here I speak with Cistercian monk Michael Lautieri, OCSO, current vocation director of Monastery of the Holy Spirit in Conyers, Georgia. In our conversation, I asked Michael how neo-monastic communities might better learn from monasteries and the monastic tradition. He offers two concrete possibilities—monastics living temporarily with neo-monastic communities as teachers, and core members of neo-monastic communities spending time in temporary monastic guest programs such as that offered by Monastery of the Holy Spirit. In regard to learning from monasticism, Michael stresses the need to actually experience monastic life firsthand in order to understand the monastic charism. And while he emphasizes monasticism’s adaptability and flexibility according to culture, circumstance, and religion, he’s also clear on what he considers the constitutive elements of any form of monasticism: prayer, silence, solitude, manual labor, and community. Michael also shares his thoughts on what he anticipates for the future of monasticism (mirroring Ivan Kauffman’s conviction that the future of monastic communities lies in stronger bonds with lay people) and his enthusiasm over the broad interest among lay people today in incorporating a depth of spirituality into their lives through learning monastic values and practices. Embedded in this interview are two questions that have come to the fore for me over the course of this tour of communities. The first question is, simply: what is monasticism? One concern I have is that the New Monasticism movement has been re-defining the very meaning of the word, often with little concrete input from or experience of the classic monastic tradition. While this re-definition process from a fresh perspective expands the monastic imagination, so to speak, sometimes I have difficulty understanding just what’s monastic about particular expressions of the New Monasticism. Hence, I want to carry this question of what constitutes the essentials of monasticism into future interviews with monastics “new” and “old,” and especially into my Monastic Studies program at Saint John’s School of Theology upon my return this fall. Thus far, I’ve received three direct responses to this question: Mary Ewing Stamps, leader of the Methodist-Benedictine Saint Brigid of Kildare Monastery, emphasized the structural elements of stability of place, a leader, and a rule of life (incidentally, even though much of her own formation took place in a Benedictine monastic guest program similar to that offered by Monastery of the Holy Spirit, she prefers the idea of monastics coming to live as teachers with new communities in order to preserve the importance of a sense of place). Camaldolese-Benedictine monk Cyprian Consiglio, speaking from the eremitical (hermit) tradition and from years of involvement in monastic inter-religious dialogue, named the primacy of the interior life and contemplative practice as comprising the core of monasticism. And here, again, speaking from within the Cistercian tradition, Michael identifies the essential elements of monasticism as prayer, silence, solitude, manual labor, and community. What these three monastics witness to is the fact that there is no definitive answer to the question of what constitutes the essentials of monasticism. Rather, there are many perspectives from within a shared body of experience that constellates around certain key features, while allowing for much diversity. Hence, I think Michael makes a crucially important point here: that monastic life cannot be adequately understood from the outside; it has to be lived. And to reiterate an observation I’ve made in earlier posts, this gap of experience between the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism contrasts with new expressions of Buddhist communities in the West, in so much as the latter have mostly developed directly from what has been passed down from Asian monastic teachers; the lineage of tradition remains unbroken. Which brings me to my second question, reflecting my conviction that the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism have much to offer one another: How might this gap of experience between the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism be bridged? And why? What does each have to offer the other? Stay tuned… Books mentioned or alluded to in the interview: Monastic Practice, by Charles Cummings, OCSO; Consecrated Religious Life: The Changing Paradigms, by Diarmuid O’Murchu  Into/Outro music “He Prabhu” by Fr. Cyprian Consiglio, OSB Cam., and John Pennington, from Compassionate and Wise.

<a href="https://emergingcommunities.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/br-michael-interview.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://emergingcommunities.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/br-michael-interview.mp3</a> <a href="https://emergingcommunities.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/michael-ii1.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a> Having just come from <a href="http://www.koinoniapartners.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Koinonia Farm</a> and gleaned from conversations there that, among some in the <a href="http://www.newmonasticism.org/index.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">New Monasticism</a> movement, there is a growing interest in connecting more deeply with the classic monastic tradition, I was eager to bring “old-school” monastics into the conversation. Here I speak with Cistercian monk Michael Lautieri, OCSO, current vocation director of <a href="http://www.trappist.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monastery of the Holy Spirit</a> in Conyers, Georgia. In our conversation, I asked Michael how neo-monastic communities might better learn from monasteries and the monastic tradition. He offers two concrete possibilities—monastics living temporarily with neo-monastic communities as teachers, and core members of neo-monastic communities spending time in <a href="http://www.trappist.net/MG_Program" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">temporary monastic guest programs such as that offered by Monastery of the Holy Spirit</a>. In regard to learning from monasticism, Michael stresses the need to actually experience monastic life firsthand in order to understand the monastic charism. And while he emphasizes monasticism’s adaptability and flexibility according to culture, circumstance, and religion, he’s also clear on what he considers the constitutive elements of any form of monasticism: prayer, silence, solitude, manual labor, and community. Michael also shares his thoughts on what he anticipates for the future of monasticism (mirroring <a href="https://emerging-communities.com/2011/02/27/ivankauffman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ivan Kauffman</a>’s conviction that the future of monastic communities lies in stronger bonds with lay people) and his enthusiasm over the broad interest among lay people today in incorporating a depth of spirituality into their lives through learning monastic values and practices. Embedded in this interview are two questions that have come to the fore for me over the course of this tour of communities. The first question is, simply: what is monasticism? One concern I have is that the New Monasticism movement has been re-defining the very meaning of the word, often with little concrete input from or experience of the classic monastic tradition. While this re-definition process from a fresh perspective expands the monastic imagination, so to speak, sometimes I have difficulty understanding just what’s monastic about particular expressions of the New Monasticism. Hence, I want to carry this question of what constitutes the essentials of monasticism into future interviews with monastics “new” and “old,” and especially into my <a href="http://www1.csbsju.edu/sot/academicprograms/degree_MaTheology_monasticstudies.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monastic Studies program at Saint John’s School of Theology</a> upon my return this fall. Thus far, I’ve received three direct responses to this question: <a href="https://emerging-communities.com/2011/03/21/mary-ewing-stamps/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mary Ewing Stamps</a>, leader of the <a href="http://www.janrichardson.com/saintbrigidmonastery.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Methodist-Benedictine Saint Brigid of Kildare Monastery</a>, emphasized the structural elements of stability of place, a leader, and a rule of life (incidentally, even though much of her own formation took place in a Benedictine monastic guest program similar to that offered by Monastery of the Holy Spirit, she prefers the idea of monastics coming to live as teachers with new communities in order to preserve the importance of a sense of place). Camaldolese-Benedictine monk <a href="https://emerging-communities.com/2011/09/03/cyprian-consiglio/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cyprian Consiglio</a>, speaking from the eremitical (hermit) tradition and from years of involvement in <a href="http://www.monasticdialog.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">monastic inter-religious dialogue</a>, named the primacy of the interior life and contemplative practice as comprising the core of monasticism. And here, again, speaking from within the Cistercian tradition, Michael identifies the essential elements of monasticism as prayer, silence, solitude, manual labor, and community. What these three monastics witness to is the fact that there is no definitive answer to the question of what constitutes the essentials of monasticism. Rather, there are many perspectives from within a shared body of experience that constellates around certain key features, while allowing for much diversity. Hence, I think Michael makes a crucially important point here: that monastic life cannot be adequately understood from the outside; it has to be lived. And to reiterate an observation I’ve made in earlier posts, this gap of experience between the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism contrasts with <a href="https://emerging-communities.com/2011/11/01/episode-11%e2%80%94victoria-austin-san-francisco-zen-center-not-lay-not-monk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">new expressions of Buddhist communities in the West</a>, in so much as the latter have mostly developed directly from what has been passed down from Asian monastic teachers; the lineage of tradition remains unbroken. Which brings me to my second question, reflecting my conviction that the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism have much to offer one another: How might this gap of experience between the classic Christian monastic tradition and the New Monasticism be bridged? And why? What does each have to offer the other? Stay tuned… Books mentioned or alluded to in the interview: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Monastic-Practices-Cistercian-Studies-Series/dp/0879079754" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monastic Practice, </a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Monastic-Practices-Cistercian-Studies-Series/dp/0879079754" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">by Charles Cummings, OCSO</a>; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Consecrated-Religious-Life-Changing-Paradigms/dp/1570756198" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Consecrated Religious Life: The Changing Paradigms, </a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Consecrated-Religious-Life-Changing-Paradigms/dp/1570756198" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">by Diarmuid O’Murchu </a> Into/Outro music “He Prabhu” by Fr. Cyprian Consiglio, OSB Cam., and John Pennington, from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Compassionate-Wise-Gregorian-Chant/dp/B000W7Y2VY" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Compassionate and Wise.</a>

Episode 25—Michael Lautieri, OCSO: Bridging the Gap, Monasticism Old and New