Tara Okan's guest appearances

Tara Okan

GreenplanetFM Podcast

Tom Campbell

Bruce Lipton

Eben Alexander

Charles Eisenstein

Byron Katie

Sonia Choquette

James Wilson

Matt Wilson

Phil Gregory

Amit Goswami

Dan Millman

Malcolm Scott

Mike Joy

Russell Targ

James Cameron

OwlTail

With the advent of a strong and expanding ‘New Zealand Trade and Industrial Waters Forum’ which Tara was very much involved in - having over 2000 members is an organisation and science and knowledge exchange extending over 5 countries. It is designed to bring about affirmative action and change in NZ in mitigating the effects of industry in turning our water into a more sustainable resource.We Exist on a Living Breathing Water Planet Water in New Zealand -  As a water scientist Tara states that when we look at our planet from space we see it’s blue and that is because we are essentially a water planet that gives us life - emphasising that there is no other planet in our solar system or that we have found beyond - that is covered in liquid water making earth - unique - and 70% of the earth’s oxygen comes from plankton in our oceans and the necessity to keep our oceans safe. i.e. from acidification. He also is a zoologist and botanist and acknowledges that our planet is a vast superorganism.That if we take a basket ball and dip it in water - the thickness of the wetness is the depth of our atmospheric membrane that envelops our planet. - That humans live in a very narrow gas band when it comes to living a normal life.Adroit use of technology as tools to monitor water quality  As a scientist he is able to use lasers to measure turbidity and the content of solids in water and also UV spectrophotometry to determine the chemical constituents and the composition of waste water. With remote stations situated all over NZ monitoring the industry and rivers and monitoring processes within industries to see how water changes form when it is piped into an industry to when it goes out. This technology is an economic driver for industry that wants to use less water or that they want to use water more efficiently as there are increasing costs involved in utilisation.He says that as a scientist who studies the data, the main interest in water in NZ is based around it being an economic driver - and that the neo liberal expedient of the last 30 years has cause so many ecological problems as a result of businesses not factoring the environmental consequences of the extraction economy - one where short term economic gain causes huge expense to mitigate and rectify.  That once science in universities was the hotbed of new breakthroughs of inventions and curiosity. This has decreased markedly.New Zealand’s Capacity as an Intellectual Driver of Innovation.NZ was once a world leader in innovation and in many ways it still is, however it’s a struggle for a start up company here and many of our inventions end up being bought out by overseas companies flush with funds and so the country as a whole misses out on many unique opportunities. Especially around intellectual property IP.The good work that NZ water scientists do is on analysing the composition of wastewater and the automatic methods of controlling the treatment of it - is truly world beating - being at the top of their game and winning awards and medals for it.These scientists have some of the  best systems of sorting out - cleaning, rejuvenating, rebuilding or preventing pollution to rivers - anywhere in the world. Do these methods get used in NZ? - and Tara demurs - not very often - but they are used overseas quite a lot. He laments that recently our country has become an economic grocery shop for overseas corporations - when what he wants is a good caring country that will healthily educate his children.Political Indifference of the PastTara mentions that once upon a time (sound familiar) politics changed and government and local government decisions were generational based on 50 years and beyond - that looked well ahead - now many decisions at a national level are based around election cycles, votes and to keeping the status quo in power. Which he states is a failure in our system of governance    Water - H2O - NZ’s Abundant Water Rich Produce New Zealand is a water rich country, and that is to our economic advantage as our main assets arise from water. Because it is abundant, clean (mostly) it is free, and accessible as a food producer - dairy cows are made of water, vegetables, fruit, wine,  mutton and beef are made of water, and timber via trees, that all come from a water footprint - we are fortunate that we have easy and good access to water.  We are effective at packaging water into many various forms and selling it overseas and so as an economy - are a water nation. Whereas some countries are steel and iron countries, producing automobiles, electronics and machine tools, whilst other countries produce oil or minerals mined out of the ground. So NZ is very dependent on water, clean fresh water and we need to be conscious of this fact.The NZ Economy  Dairy = $13.6 Billion - BUT Tourism = $34.7 Billion Though dairy is our biggest exporter at 13.6 billion dollars per annum, he says we are fooled because our biggest earner is tourism $34.7 billion that involves the whole beauty of our country - it may be a little amorphous as is not about money going to one smallish sector of the society it covers a wide ranging area  spread - taxi drivers, bus drivers, hotel workers, cooks and chefs and waiters, airlines, small shops marketing people - it’s a permeated product so it is harder to assess, exactly what tourism earns - however treasury has done their sums - yet Tara asks why are we trashing all the rivers in our country, ruining our fishing spots - destroying lakes and making places where people can no longer swim and others - can no longer wade - for an export earner that is worth less than half of showing off the rest of the country to everybody else.    Whilst that is only one industry - as there are other industries that use our water too.Dairy has made strides to clean up its actTara admits that strides have been made to clean up the rivers from dairying and that they are not the only ones that pollute - Cities pollute - Hamilton pollutes the Waikato river, Kinleith pulp and paper mill pollutes the river - even geothermal energy pollutes the Waikato river. Listen to the arsenic story - and the need for better technologies.  Lack of Accountability A milk order of $50 million was sent back to NZ from China being a baby formula incident, due to contamination by water. Others also have suffered the same fate. Listen Our National Body is letting NZ down because there are ‘no country wide’ standards.  ListenRegional Councils could do far better regarding water. For example - there was a business here in NZ,  that wanted to pump pollutants into a river and the Regional Council said - you can’t do that! - that’s our river!  We like our river. As we all know that once pollutants are in a river it affects the whole river down stream - so instead of building a wastewater treatment plant and treat their polluted water - (that upon complying with certain standards they could then pump that water into the river). This business went ahead and  just built a cheap 94 metre pipeline over the fence/ border to the other Regional Council who did not care what was put in the river or not - so they off loaded their responsibility at the same time polluting the river and getting away with it. Because the two different Regional Councils had different regulations.Rivers being equated to living entities especially within Maoridom. He talks about the spiritualisation of rivers as having the same rights as a human - such as the Whanganui - but we did not take this further due to other issues to be addressed. https://www.ourplanet.org/articles/new-zealand-government-acknowledges-a-river-as-a-living-entity-and-a-park-as-having-human-rights He talks about some frustrations around going to extremes in spiritualisation of such water and products - listen. These matters need addressing through better education.Tara then tells of certain inequalities and distortions around lack of integrity with regard to water and the fact that the Regional Council are uncoordinated across NZ, and most are election driven. He gives examples that need to be urgently addressed and in a good number of cases explains how ‘the law is an ass.’ So if you are a water person, an activist and someone who cares - this insightful interview needs your attention.The NZ Trade and Industrial Waters ForumThe NZ Trade and Industrial Waters Forum, which Tara was very much involved - with over 2000 members is an organisation and ‘science and knowledge exchange’ extending over 5 countries and growing - which is designed to bring about affirmative change in NZ with mitigating the effects of industry by turning our water into a more sustainable resource. He talks about the cowboy system …Councils requiring the ‘know how’ as well as having ethics embedded throughout the council business. Many people, though essentially very good humans, are voted onto a local Council but, for example - when it comes to building a $40 million wastewater treatment plant - they are not equipped educationally with the rigour and skills to decide on the viability of such a treatment plant.In years gone by - all Councils actually had their own in-house expertise such as engineers to be able to take care of such situations. Councils had wastewater engineers, structural and civil engineers, it had a planning department - however, sometime ago the NZ Government asked Councils to become more cost effective and so all these ‘experts’ were ‘let go’ - but then afterwards the Council’s realised that they needed such expertise - however the fired experts in many cases had by now become ‘consultants’ and there are instances where when they were once saving Council ratepayers money, they then in a number of cases were now able to ‘capitalise on their situation’ and things got out of hand.  Listen There is a story about how a NZ Council  - lost the plot for its ratepayers - listen to this one … Listen also to how Wanaka Council in the South Island shows how successful a Council can be. Check out the peer review process - one is in relation to IPENZ - Institute Professional Engineers of NZ. One of the downsides of their processes that hampers peer reviews is that you are not allowed to use hindsight.  Listen - so if they have already built say 5 waste water plants and they don’t work - that’s irrelevant because it is assumed that everybody will learn from their past mistakes.Also you can not question the data - so if the information to build the plant is supplied to the consultant and it’s given to the peer reviewer and they look at it and the peer reviewer says - this information is rubbish - this information is not what is going into that plant … and they say … Oh yeah, but this … - and they then say no no, that’s not the question  -  if that data is the right data is that the right design?   And they go yeah but it’s not the right data - no no that is not the question, if that data is given to you is that the right design and they go …  w-e-l-l …  yes and they go TICK - right - and that’s the right plant then - but that is not the case, because the data is rubbish.  Listen To the OAR  - the Operational Assessment Process  - checks and balances. There is no system like this in NZ. It needs to come here.This very needed interview covers.Water bottling in NZ and plastic bottlesThe Green Party and that they are a consensus party  There is power in the people - we have just forgotten itRivers and streams - that the water clarity is such that a river is: walkable, wade-able and swim-able but don’t put your head under the water … That in relations to this, there is some very deceptive spin by the previous administration In Tim’s younger life he was able to swim and drink in the stream that flowed through the back of his family farm. Not any more.Farmers and good riparian rights - challenges of farmers to fence off drains as being far too expensive for the average farmer. This is an issue that has huge costs involved.Change of consciousness needed to understand our relationship with the land and a living ecologyPurpose of our Nation To be born - grow in health - and be able to live your life freely - that  Gutted bio security at our borders, lacks cash and needs to be reinforced and grown. Community involvement Engagement of people Get around the table create the dialogue and start the change  I asked him the question about 1080 - his reply - that it’s a can of worms.  GlythosateGlyphosate in NZ Water?     https://www.greenparty.org.uk/.../green-party-meps-peed... I omitted to ask him about Glyphosate in the waterways as on the 13 of May 2016 a group of 48 Members of the European Parliament (MEP) took part in a symbolic urine test ahead of the European Parliament vote to oppose the EU Commission’s proposal to relicense the controversial toxic substance until 2031.The inspiration behind what was labelled the #MEPee test was the results of a recent study in Germany which found that 99.6% of people tested were found to have glyphosate residue in their urine.The results reveal that every MEP tested has been found to have glyphosate traces in their urine, with the average concentration being 1.73ng/ml. That level is more than 17 times the safe limit for drinking water. The lowest level found among the group was 0.17ng/ml, almost double the safe level. If this being the case, that means that glyphosate molecules are suspended in the human body and humans a walking time bombs. Because we are an experiment in  motion. In a previous GreenplanetFM.com interview with Dr Meriel Watts, by Lisa Er this is what was said.NZ’s Government Department NIWA, the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, tested the water of Auckland harbour and were very concerned at the level of glyphosate in the water - Yet the National Government of the day was ignoring the aquatic environment.https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/dr-meriel-watts-our-food-is-denatured-through-chemical-use-nz The fluoride question came up too, as GreenplanetFM.com is an activist program and if you wish to listen to two noted overseas health professionals this interview is an ear-opener.  https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/professor-paul-connett-dr-bill-hirzy-the-danger-of-fluoride In Conclusion There were many other questions that I needed ask to drill down further - however that will have to await to another time. This interview I trust will be listened to by not only to the layperson, but scientists in general and local and regional body councillors as we now work together to not only pull the strings of community together, but as a nation cooperate and collaborate together so as to regenerate and renew our commitment to a clean, green New Zealand.  A country that is not only a moral force for good, but also that we are a living example of a mature, independent nation, being a fair and honest player on the world stage.  An interview from a courageous scientist that will bring home to you the imperative of more transparent Governance.    1) Industrial Waters email - tara@nztiwf.org.nz     The New Zealand Trade and Industrial Waters Forum   2) Here is the link for the New Zealand Trade and Industrial waters Forum group on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4484284   3) The link for the industrial waters conference 2018 - http://www.confer.co.nz/iw2018/ there is a lot of what we do here and contacts for the committee. Note: These scientists are basically a technical organisation. They don't really have a social media presence yet - and admit they are not public friendly - but are scientist friendly. :) Meanwhile as we all slept last night in our crew quarters all around our majestic planet - spaceship earth - whilst turning on her axis continued on her predestined path onwards in our galactic journey that some are saying is to a grand destination that we know not of.  Yes, that is right, as the 7.5 billion crew share breath that the ship automatically and in many ways magically  provides - we are also becoming aware that our water supply has to be venerated - in that our ship has also supplied us with fresh water for eons and it has only recently that we have forgotten its importance and the urgency now is to cherish these transparent, life giving - liquid molecules that constitute up to 70% of our body. Yes, this is all food for thought as we realise that we are more than we have ever dreamed possible, due to certain crew coming into the understanding that the purpose for existence is to awaken and find out the purpose for existence - this time is now. Dear crew the long sleep is now over …

With the advent of a strong and expanding ‘New Zealand Trade and Industrial Waters Forum’ which Tara was very much involved in - having over 2000 members is an organisation and science and knowledge exchange extending over 5 countries. It is designed to bring about affirmative action and change in NZ in mitigating the effects of industry in turning our water into a more sustainable resource.We Exist on a Living Breathing Water Planet Water in New Zealand -  As a water scientist Tara states that when we look at our planet from space we see it’s blue and that is because we are essentially a water planet that gives us life - emphasising that there is no other planet in our solar system or that we have found beyond - that is covered in liquid water making earth - unique - and 70% of the earth’s oxygen comes from plankton in our oceans and the necessity to keep our oceans safe. i.e. from acidification. He also is a zoologist and botanist and acknowledges that our planet is a vast superorganism.That if we take a basket ball and dip it in water - the thickness of the wetness is the depth of our atmospheric membrane that envelops our planet. - That humans live in a very narrow gas band when it comes to living a normal life.Adroit use of technology as tools to monitor water quality  As a scientist he is able to use lasers to measure turbidity and the content of solids in water and also UV spectrophotometry to determine the chemical constituents and the composition of waste water. With remote stations situated all over NZ monitoring the industry and rivers and monitoring processes within industries to see how water changes form when it is piped into an industry to when it goes out. This technology is an economic driver for industry that wants to use less water or that they want to use water more efficiently as there are increasing costs involved in utilisation.He says that as a scientist who studies the data, the main interest in water in NZ is based around it being an economic driver - and that the neo liberal expedient of the last 30 years has cause so many ecological problems as a result of businesses not factoring the environmental consequences of the extraction economy - one where short term economic gain causes huge expense to mitigate and rectify.  That once science in universities was the hotbed of new breakthroughs of inventions and curiosity. This has decreased markedly.New Zealand’s Capacity as an Intellectual Driver of <a href="http://Innovation.NZ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Innovation.NZ</a> was once a world leader in innovation and in many ways it still is, however it’s a struggle for a start up company here and many of our inventions end up being bought out by overseas companies flush with funds and so the country as a whole misses out on many unique opportunities. Especially around intellectual property IP.The good work that NZ water scientists do is on analysing the composition of wastewater and the automatic methods of controlling the treatment of it - is truly world beating - being at the top of their game and winning awards and medals for it.These scientists have some of the  best systems of sorting out - cleaning, rejuvenating, rebuilding or preventing pollution to rivers - anywhere in the world. Do these methods get used in NZ? - and Tara demurs - not very often - but they are used overseas quite a lot. He laments that recently our country has become an economic grocery shop for overseas corporations - when what he wants is a good caring country that will healthily educate his children.Political Indifference of the PastTara mentions that once upon a time (sound familiar) politics changed and government and local government decisions were generational based on 50 years and beyond - that looked well ahead - now many decisions at a national level are based around election cycles, votes and to keeping the status quo in power. Which he states is a failure in our system of governance    Water - H2O - NZ’s Abundant Water Rich Produce New Zealand is a water rich country, and that is to our economic advantage as our main assets arise from water. Because it is abundant, clean (mostly) it is free, and accessible as a food producer - dairy cows are made of water, vegetables, fruit, wine,  mutton and beef are made of water, and timber via trees, that all come from a water footprint - we are fortunate that we have easy and good access to water.  We are effective at packaging water into many various forms and selling it overseas and so as an economy - are a water nation. Whereas some countries are steel and iron countries, producing automobiles, electronics and machine tools, whilst other countries produce oil or minerals mined out of the ground. So NZ is very dependent on water, clean fresh water and we need to be conscious of this fact.The NZ Economy  Dairy = $13.6 Billion - BUT Tourism = $34.7 Billion Though dairy is our biggest exporter at 13.6 billion dollars per annum, he says we are fooled because our biggest earner is tourism $34.7 billion that involves the whole beauty of our country - it may be a little amorphous as is not about money going to one smallish sector of the society it covers a wide ranging area  spread - taxi drivers, bus drivers, hotel workers, cooks and chefs and waiters, airlines, small shops marketing people - it’s a permeated product so it is harder to assess, exactly what tourism earns - however treasury has done their sums - yet Tara asks why are we trashing all the rivers in our country, ruining our fishing spots - destroying lakes and making places where people can no longer swim and others - can no longer wade - for an export earner that is worth less than half of showing off the rest of the country to everybody else.    Whilst that is only one industry - as there are other industries that use our water too.Dairy has made strides to clean up its actTara admits that strides have been made to clean up the rivers from dairying and that they are not the only ones that pollute - Cities pollute - Hamilton pollutes the Waikato river, Kinleith pulp and paper mill pollutes the river - even geothermal energy pollutes the Waikato river. Listen to the arsenic story - and the need for better technologies.  Lack of Accountability A milk order of $50 million was sent back to NZ from China being a baby formula incident, due to contamination by water. Others also have suffered the same fate. Listen Our National Body is letting NZ down because there are ‘no country wide’ standards.  ListenRegional Councils could do far better regarding water. For example - there was a business here in NZ,  that wanted to pump pollutants into a river and the Regional Council said - you can’t do that! - that’s our river!  We like our river. As we all know that once pollutants are in a river it affects the whole river down stream - so instead of building a wastewater treatment plant and treat their polluted water - (that upon complying with certain standards they could then pump that water into the river). This business went ahead and  just built a cheap 94 metre pipeline over the fence/ border to the other Regional Council who did not care what was put in the river or not - so they off loaded their responsibility at the same time polluting the river and getting away with it. Because the two different Regional Councils had different regulations.Rivers being equated to living entities especially within Maoridom. He talks about the spiritualisation of rivers as having the same rights as a human - such as the Whanganui - but we did not take this further due to other issues to be addressed. <a href="https://www.ourplanet.org/articles/new-zealand-government-acknowledges-a-river-as-a-living-entity-and-a-park-as-having-human-rights" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ourplanet.org/articles/new-zealand-government-acknowledges-a-river-as-a-living-entity-and-a-park-as-having-human-rights</a> He talks about some frustrations around going to extremes in spiritualisation of such water and products - listen. These matters need addressing through better education.Tara then tells of certain inequalities and distortions around lack of integrity with regard to water and the fact that the Regional Council are uncoordinated across NZ, and most are election driven. He gives examples that need to be urgently addressed and in a good number of cases explains how ‘the law is an ass.’ So if you are a water person, an activist and someone who cares - this insightful interview needs your attention.The NZ Trade and Industrial Waters ForumThe NZ Trade and Industrial Waters Forum, which Tara was very much involved - with over 2000 members is an organisation and ‘science and knowledge exchange’ extending over 5 countries and growing - which is designed to bring about affirmative change in NZ with mitigating the effects of industry by turning our water into a more sustainable resource. He talks about the cowboy system …Councils requiring the ‘know how’ as well as having ethics embedded throughout the council business. Many people, though essentially very good humans, are voted onto a local Council but, for example - when it comes to building a $40 million wastewater treatment plant - they are not equipped educationally with the rigour and skills to decide on the viability of such a treatment <a href="http://plant.In" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">plant.In</a> years gone by - all Councils actually had their own in-house expertise such as engineers to be able to take care of such situations. Councils had wastewater engineers, structural and civil engineers, it had a planning department - however, sometime ago the NZ Government asked Councils to become more cost effective and so all these ‘experts’ were ‘let go’ - but then afterwards the Council’s realised that they needed such expertise - however the fired experts in many cases had by now become ‘consultants’ and there are instances where when they were once saving Council ratepayers money, they then in a number of cases were now able to ‘capitalise on their situation’ and things got out of hand.  Listen There is a story about how a NZ Council  - lost the plot for its ratepayers - listen to this one … Listen also to how Wanaka Council in the South Island shows how successful a Council can be. Check out the peer review process - one is in relation to IPENZ - Institute Professional Engineers of NZ. One of the downsides of their processes that hampers peer reviews is that you are not allowed to use hindsight.  Listen - so if they have already built say 5 waste water plants and they don’t work - that’s irrelevant because it is assumed that everybody will learn from their past mistakes.Also you can not question the data - so if the information to build the plant is supplied to the consultant and it’s given to the peer reviewer and they look at it and the peer reviewer says - this information is rubbish - this information is not what is going into that plant … and they say … Oh yeah, but this … - and they then say no no, that’s not the question  -  if that data is the right data is that the right design?   And they go yeah but it’s not the right data - no no that is not the question, if that data is given to you is that the right design and they go …  w-e-l-l …  yes and they go TICK - right - and that’s the right plant then - but that is not the case, because the data is rubbish.  Listen To the OAR  - the Operational Assessment Process  - checks and balances. There is no system like this in NZ. It needs to come here.This very needed interview covers.Water bottling in NZ and plastic bottlesThe Green Party and that they are a consensus party There is power in the people - we have just forgotten itRivers and streams - that the water clarity is such that a river is: walkable, wade-able and swim-able but don’t put your head under the water … That in relations to this, there is some very deceptive spin by the previous administration In Tim’s younger life he was able to swim and drink in the stream that flowed through the back of his family farm. Not any more.Farmers and good riparian rights - challenges of farmers to fence off drains as being far too expensive for the average farmer. This is an issue that has huge costs involved.Change of consciousness needed to understand our relationship with the land and a living ecologyPurpose of our Nation To be born - grow in health - and be able to live your life freely - that  Gutted bio security at our borders, lacks cash and needs to be reinforced and grown. Community involvement Engagement of people Get around the table create the dialogue and start the change I asked him the question about 1080 - his reply - that it’s a can of worms. GlythosateGlyphosate in NZ Water?     <a href="https://www.greenparty.org.uk/.../green-party-meps-peed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.greenparty.org.uk/.../green-party-meps-peed</a>... I omitted to ask him about Glyphosate in the waterways as on the 13 of May 2016 a group of 48 Members of the European Parliament (MEP) took part in a symbolic urine test ahead of the European Parliament vote to oppose the EU Commission’s proposal to relicense the controversial toxic substance until 2031.The inspiration behind what was labelled the #MEPee test was the results of a recent study in Germany which found that 99.6% of people tested were found to have glyphosate residue in their urine.The results reveal that every MEP tested has been found to have glyphosate traces in their urine, with the average concentration being 1.73ng/ml. That level is more than 17 times the safe limit for drinking water. The lowest level found among the group was 0.17ng/ml, almost double the safe level. If this being the case, that means that glyphosate molecules are suspended in the human body and humans a walking time bombs. Because we are an experiment in  motion. In a previous <a href="http://GreenplanetFM.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GreenplanetFM.com</a> interview with Dr Meriel Watts, by Lisa Er this is what was <a href="http://said.NZ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">said.NZ</a>’s Government Department NIWA, the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, tested the water of Auckland harbour and were very concerned at the level of glyphosate in the water - Yet the National Government of the day was ignoring the aquatic environment.<a href="https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/dr-meriel-watts-our-food-is-denatured-through-chemical-use-nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/dr-meriel-watts-our-food-is-denatured-through-chemical-use-nz</a> The fluoride question came up too, as <a href="http://GreenplanetFM.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GreenplanetFM.com</a> is an activist program and if you wish to listen to two noted overseas health professionals this interview is an ear-opener. <a href="https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/professor-paul-connett-dr-bill-hirzy-the-danger-of-fluoride" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.ourplanet.org/greenplanetfm/professor-paul-connett-dr-bill-hirzy-the-danger-of-fluoride</a> In Conclusion There were many other questions that I needed ask to drill down further - however that will have to await to another time. This interview I trust will be listened to by not only to the layperson, but scientists in general and local and regional body councillors as we now work together to not only pull the strings of community together, but as a nation cooperate and collaborate together so as to regenerate and renew our commitment to a clean, green New Zealand.  A country that is not only a moral force for good, but also that we are a living example of a mature, independent nation, being a fair and honest player on the world stage. An interview from a courageous scientist that will bring home to you the imperative of more transparent Governance.   1) Industrial Waters email - tara@nztiwf.org.nz     The New Zealand Trade and Industrial Waters Forum 2) Here is the link for the New Zealand Trade and Industrial waters Forum group on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4484284" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4484284</a> 3) The link for the industrial waters conference 2018 - <a href="http://www.confer.co.nz/iw2018/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.confer.co.nz/iw2018/</a> there is a lot of what we do here and contacts for the committee. Note: These scientists are basically a technical organisation. They don't really have a social media presence yet - and admit they are not public friendly - but are scientist friendly. :) Meanwhile as we all slept last night in our crew quarters all around our majestic planet - spaceship earth - whilst turning on her axis continued on her predestined path onwards in our galactic journey that some are saying is to a grand destination that we know not of. Yes, that is right, as the 7.5 billion crew share breath that the ship automatically and in many ways magically  provides - we are also becoming aware that our water supply has to be venerated - in that our ship has also supplied us with fresh water for eons and it has only recently that we have forgotten its importance and the urgency now is to cherish these transparent, life giving - liquid molecules that constitute up to 70% of our body. Yes, this is all food for thought as we realise that we are more than we have ever dreamed possible, due to certain crew coming into the understanding that the purpose for existence is to awaken and find out the purpose for existence - this time is now. Dear crew the long sleep is now over …

Tara Okan: Reclaiming and regenerating fresh water courses, streams, rivers and lakes throughout NZ

Back in the 1940s New Zealanders were described as long, lean, ranging and resourceful. This was one of the reasons we had community and communication with each other, however over the years with the advent of electronics and changing education and household patterns, we have become more isolated and where subtle and not so subtle methods of divide and rule have become more prevalent.To choose our politicians not because they are leaders or statesmen but because they may make more money than other people, does not translate to mean that we as a country should vote for such a person thinking this politician will also make more money for the country. This is a fallacy, they only go on to set themselves up to make more money for themselves further on.In todays world, we as consumers are being targeted to consume as many material resources as can be paid for and when we purchase a bargain, usually as a ubiquitous, toxic plastic article it is very soon in a landfill somewhere and we end up poisoning our resources and our future.The loss of ethics and the understanding of what it means is being lost in our runaway consumer society.Tara states that engagement with one another was what made us a great nation and the illusion that we are all separate is more of an idea proposed by the people who want to divide us and rule. We are a fortunate country in that we can recover the environment and have clean air, water and food  chain etc. We are also, not so much in debt that if we do not sell off any more assets (the ones that make the revenue for us to pay off the debt) we may very well be able to create our way into a resilient and self reliant, sustainable country and society.It is both your fault and my fault that we have the situation that is happening in this country - why? Because we did not make the effort. Over 1 million did not vote in the last election.Do we want to be bothered? Or, do we want to become a people who think and decide to take strategic action at the polling booth? Look at the lives that have been lost over the centuries as ordinary people courageously strived under horrendous hardship to have a say in their community. To insult these pioneers, these suffragette’s by turning our backs on these hard fought rights to universal suffrage, is not an option, especially in our world of decreasing freedoms, ethics and values.In NZ it is against the law not to register to vote.  Whereas in Australia they have taken it a step further, and that it is against the law not to vote.Look at a possible tax incentive to vote and those who don't vote pay more taxes?This interview covers much subject matter:Conservatism and what it means - to Conserve. Old people planting trees, knowing that they will never walk under the shade of them. Thinking forward as to what will we bequeath to our children and grand children’s future.Learning from advanced Northern European methods.Environment - In Sweden, recycling is so efficient that now Sweden has to import other peoples recycled (rubbish) items so as to keep their industries going.  They have not turned their whole country into an economic model as we have done under the RMA the Resource Management Act. Recycling is part of the common vernacular through out Swedish business and Government.Education - In Finland, though not on the same wages scale as doctors, teachers are honoured as  professionals. The Finnish educational system caters for parental and grand parental input in their highly acclaimed educational system. Academically they have one of the highest success rates in the world.The TPPA the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement is a method to outflank NZ’s sovereignty. With regard to health, the TPPA has NZ in its sights the dismantling of PHARMAC and quite possibly the taking over of our hospitals by offshore corporations.This also covers housing and overseas ownership of NZ, when we can not buy land in Fiji, China or Japan, why not instead lease this land and keep the ownership in this country?GDP and the measure of how much growth we have where as like Dr. Ron Colman’s development of the Genuine Progress Index for Nova Scotia in Canada which includes the other side of the equation where car crashes, house fires, burglaries, storm damage and accident and sickness are factored into the whole economic understanding. And the books are balanced accordingly.As a water scientist, Tara talks about:The degradation of water, rives, lakes, selling off of NZ, that large corporate farms now may have only one house on them, where once many smaller farms built up the community as there were more homes and families. The advent of the larger and larger farms, are depopulating the community of families and this trend is escalating in NZ.It’s our fault, as the government was designed to be a peoples process but now we are a people that are not engaged but instead disengaged. What can we do to reignite our interest in our own governance, be it at a local or a national level?Our country is run as a business however, it can not be run solely as a business as there lies the fundamental difference that not everything has a monetary factor attached to it. Such as what about the knowledge banks of the elderly, and their input into community and society. The elderly have much wisdom and experience to offer. Lets validate them and bring them more into community decisions.There is a way through this if we use the enlightened consciousness that we have been imbued with.We need to be more involved with each other, we need to be able to pay it forward and at the same time as talking with our neighbours engage in pulling the strings of community together.For New Zealand as a socially conscious country, we can once again be a global moral leader of how a small synergistic nation can once again be the emerging microcosm for the planetary macrocosm.Finally, Tara will also tell you the story how he has been able to secure the name of: The New Zealand Party.Contact: tara [at] NZactions.org.nz

Back in the 1940s New Zealanders were described as long, lean, ranging and resourceful. This was one of the reasons we had community and communication with each other, however over the years with the advent of electronics and changing education and household patterns, we have become more isolated and where subtle and not so subtle methods of divide and rule have become more <a href="http://prevalent.To" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">prevalent.To</a> choose our politicians not because they are leaders or statesmen but because they may make more money than other people, does not translate to mean that we as a country should vote for such a person thinking this politician will also make more money for the country. This is a fallacy, they only go on to set themselves up to make more money for themselves further <a href="http://on.In" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on.In</a> todays world, we as consumers are being targeted to consume as many material resources as can be paid for and when we purchase a bargain, usually as a ubiquitous, toxic plastic article it is very soon in a landfill somewhere and we end up poisoning our resources and our future.The loss of ethics and the understanding of what it means is being lost in our runaway consumer society.Tara states that engagement with one another was what made us a great nation and the illusion that we are all separate is more of an idea proposed by the people who want to divide us and rule. We are a fortunate country in that we can recover the environment and have clean air, water and food  chain etc. We are also, not so much in debt that if we do not sell off any more assets (the ones that make the revenue for us to pay off the debt) we may very well be able to create our way into a resilient and self reliant, sustainable country and <a href="http://society.It" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">society.It</a> is both your fault and my fault that we have the situation that is happening in this country - why? Because we did not make the effort. Over 1 million did not vote in the last <a href="http://election.Do" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">election.Do</a> we want to be bothered? Or, do we want to become a people who think and decide to take strategic action at the polling booth? Look at the lives that have been lost over the centuries as ordinary people courageously strived under horrendous hardship to have a say in their community. To insult these pioneers, these suffragette’s by turning our backs on these hard fought rights to universal suffrage, is not an option, especially in our world of decreasing freedoms, ethics and <a href="http://values.In" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">values.In</a> NZ it is against the law not to register to vote.  Whereas in Australia they have taken it a step further, and that it is against the law not to vote.Look at a possible tax incentive to vote and those who don't vote pay more taxes?This interview covers much subject matter:Conservatism and what it means - to Conserve. Old people planting trees, knowing that they will never walk under the shade of them. Thinking forward as to what will we bequeath to our children and grand children’s future.Learning from advanced Northern European methods.Environment - In Sweden, recycling is so efficient that now Sweden has to import other peoples recycled (rubbish) items so as to keep their industries going.  They have not turned their whole country into an economic model as we have done under the RMA the Resource Management Act. Recycling is part of the common vernacular through out Swedish business and Government.Education - In Finland, though not on the same wages scale as doctors, teachers are honoured as  professionals. The Finnish educational system caters for parental and grand parental input in their highly acclaimed educational system. Academically they have one of the highest success rates in the world.The TPPA the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement is a method to outflank NZ’s sovereignty. With regard to health, the TPPA has NZ in its sights the dismantling of PHARMAC and quite possibly the taking over of our hospitals by offshore corporations.This also covers housing and overseas ownership of NZ, when we can not buy land in Fiji, China or Japan, why not instead lease this land and keep the ownership in this country?GDP and the measure of how much growth we have where as like Dr. Ron Colman’s development of the Genuine Progress Index for Nova Scotia in Canada which includes the other side of the equation where car crashes, house fires, burglaries, storm damage and accident and sickness are factored into the whole economic understanding. And the books are balanced <a href="http://accordingly.As" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">accordingly.As</a> a water scientist, Tara talks about:The degradation of water, rives, lakes, selling off of NZ, that large corporate farms now may have only one house on them, where once many smaller farms built up the community as there were more homes and families. The advent of the larger and larger farms, are depopulating the community of families and this trend is escalating in <a href="http://NZ.It" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NZ.It</a>’s our fault, as the government was designed to be a peoples process but now we are a people that are not engaged but instead disengaged. What can we do to reignite our interest in our own governance, be it at a local or a national level?Our country is run as a business however, it can not be run solely as a business as there lies the fundamental difference that not everything has a monetary factor attached to it. Such as what about the knowledge banks of the elderly, and their input into community and society. The elderly have much wisdom and experience to offer. Lets validate them and bring them more into community decisions.There is a way through this if we use the enlightened consciousness that we have been imbued with.We need to be more involved with each other, we need to be able to pay it forward and at the same time as talking with our neighbours engage in pulling the strings of community together.For New Zealand as a socially conscious country, we can once again be a global moral leader of how a small synergistic nation can once again be the emerging microcosm for the planetary macrocosm.Finally, Tara will also tell you the story how he has been able to secure the name of: The New Zealand Party.Contact: tara [at] <a href="http://NZactions.org.nz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NZactions.org.nz</a>

Tara Okan - Water Scientist, Political Activist, Father of Four Children

Lisa Er

Nearly every sector in NZ is under intense pressure from either Government inaction or its overt and covert collusion with corporate entities, especially its dismissive attitude to a society requiring authentic leadership and statesmanship as well as a level of genuine care and concern.Our Government is shrewdly laying siege to the NZ environment and people, under the increasingly shrill mantra of, 'we have to make more money' by exploiting and extracting anything and everything. The earth our great sustainer as you know is under relentless assault, even as we intuitively realize we are at multiple tipping points within the magnificence of the straining biosphere.With the state sell off of public assets, insidious security and intelligence breaches, super secret trade deals like the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement, corporate encroachments and lobbying, secret military accords &amp; harmonization of Laws with the USA, we the citizens of NZ are on the back foot.Low wages for workers, corporate infiltration into city councils, pharmaceutical corporations advertising directly on TV. No labeling of food sources, ingredients &amp; processes, GE and GMO's, additional chemicals in municipal drinking water, failure to keep city air clear, unsafe food and water, unsustainable farming, destructive mining, corporate take-over of education, health and prisons &amp; public services and the TPPA to bind it all in, all have the common theme of locking down our collective future.And more and more issues are being thrown at 'we the citizens.'  If we do not come together, and intelligently organize and unite the country by calling the government to account, it will only accelerate and get far worse!  We do not need prophetic statements to tell us where this could all go.The 1st of September Nationwide rally aims to cover all of the many issues that people see as important concerns and that are both affecting their lives as well as our countries future, especially our kids. * THIS IS THE BIG PUSH BACK TO UNBRIDLED UNCONSCIOUS GOVERNANCE *DEMO 4 DEMOCracy http://kiwisconnect.org.nzHighlighting:  Government –  professional corporate lobbying denies us of our democratic voice The TPPA a vehicle for corporate control of NZ's Sovereignty and Laws Banks and unequal wealth - compound interest - rate fluctuations Media – Censoring by omission  - low level intellectual content - we need the truth! Food, Seeds, and Pesticides, Healthy affordable food : Prefer organic : No GMOs &amp; GE Mining – corporate interest over local interest - no insurance to cover disasters? Climate, fossil fuel pollution,  and environmental issues no dialogue with public Health – Big Pharmaceutical controls, and loss of PHARMAC Fluoride – doesn’t just affect the teeth, effects the thyroid, brain and bones Education – privatising schools – bulk funding  – Charter  – schools Justice and prisons – privatised to overseas corporations Arms Industry promotes war – Strongly keep NZ Nuclear Free Our Countries high level of debt. To Kiwi Saver not being invested within NZ Laws being pushed through under urgency - No boat protests at sea. Warner Bros. GCSB Bill. Fukushima radiation in Japan getting worse - yet all countries remaining deadly silent! And more ... much more …  We peace-loving New Zealanders are challenging the status quo from the outside, and are up against a combination of the existing system and a whole host of full time professional corporate and governmental insiders  - who are hell bent on maintaining their power base, pay packets and superannuation at whatever the cost!What we ask of you, is can you assist to make this important event happen? Can you with a small nucleus of people help organize your local town or city, or be put in touch with the volunteers already doing their best to make this happen?http://kiwisconnect.org.nz/get-involvedThis may be the most critical choice and tipping point in NZ of the 21st Century.As all the issues that concern us are integrated, we have to now take back our country.Because …While we are busy watching telly, we're losing the country to outside entities!  With so many people who were able to vote last election, less than 75% of the country actually voted.YES!, Our future especially our children and grandchildren's is at stake. NZer's have become far too complacent, docile and distracted whilst being self absorbed in 'other things' that we have found that our sovereignty has been eroded and our democracy sabotaged. Yet not only that, every move and utterance is being electronically tracked or recorded, by (an eye at the key hole) a gigantic global security apparatus - that whilst the lights were on, nobody was alert or home.This is correct, main stream media and worse, the Parliamentary press gallery have been caught with their pants down because they have got too cosy and lazy to do their due diligence.We have all been conned!Should the Govt pass the GCSB Bill over the next 10 days this rally could be the best time for us to let the Govt know that they have lost the faith of 'We The People'. We do not want to be spied on!

Nearly every sector in NZ is under intense pressure from either Government inaction or its overt and covert collusion with corporate entities, especially its dismissive attitude to a society requiring authentic leadership and statesmanship as well as a level of genuine care and concern.Our Government is shrewdly laying siege to the NZ environment and people, under the increasingly shrill mantra of, 'we have to make more money' by exploiting and extracting anything and everything. The earth our great sustainer as you know is under relentless assault, even as we intuitively realize we are at multiple tipping points within the magnificence of the straining biosphere.With the state sell off of public assets, insidious security and intelligence breaches, super secret trade deals like the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement, corporate encroachments and lobbying, secret military accords &amp; harmonization of Laws with the USA, we the citizens of NZ are on the back foot.Low wages for workers, corporate infiltration into city councils, pharmaceutical corporations advertising directly on TV. No labeling of food sources, ingredients &amp; processes, GE and GMO's, additional chemicals in municipal drinking water, failure to keep city air clear, unsafe food and water, unsustainable farming, destructive mining, corporate take-over of education, health and prisons &amp; public services and the TPPA to bind it all in, all have the common theme of locking down our collective future.And more and more issues are being thrown at 'we the citizens.'  If we do not come together, and intelligently organize and unite the country by calling the government to account, it will only accelerate and get far worse!  We do not need prophetic statements to tell us where this could all go.The 1st of September Nationwide rally aims to cover all of the many issues that people see as important concerns and that are both affecting their lives as well as our countries future, especially our kids. * THIS IS THE BIG PUSH BACK TO UNBRIDLED UNCONSCIOUS GOVERNANCE *DEMO 4 DEMOCracy <a href="http://kiwisconnect.org.nz/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kiwisconnect.org.nz</a>Highlighting: <ul> <li>Government –  professional corporate lobbying denies us of our democratic voice</li> <li>The TPPA a vehicle for corporate control of NZ's Sovereignty and Laws</li> <li>Banks and unequal wealth - compound interest - rate fluctuations</li> <li>Media – Censoring by omission  - low level intellectual content - we need the truth!</li> <li>Food, Seeds, and Pesticides, Healthy affordable food : Prefer organic : No GMOs &amp; GE</li> <li>Mining – corporate interest over local interest - no insurance to cover disasters?</li> <li>Climate, fossil fuel pollution,  and environmental issues no dialogue with public</li> <li>Health – Big Pharmaceutical controls, and loss of PHARMAC</li> <li>Fluoride – doesn’t just affect the teeth, effects the thyroid, brain and bones</li> <li>Education – privatising schools – bulk funding  – Charter  – schools</li> <li>Justice and prisons – privatised to overseas corporations</li> <li>Arms Industry promotes war – Strongly keep NZ Nuclear Free</li> <li>Our Countries high level of debt. To Kiwi Saver not being invested within NZ</li> <li>Laws being pushed through under urgency - No boat protests at sea. Warner Bros. GCSB Bill.</li> <li>Fukushima radiation in Japan getting worse - yet all countries remaining deadly silent!</li> <li>And more ... much more …</li> </ul> We peace-loving New Zealanders are challenging the status quo from the outside, and are up against a combination of the existing system and a whole host of full time professional corporate and governmental insiders  - who are hell bent on maintaining their power base, pay packets and superannuation at whatever the cost!What we ask of you, is can you assist to make this important event happen? Can you with a small nucleus of people help organize your local town or city, or be put in touch with the volunteers already doing their best to make this happen?<a href="http://kiwisconnect.org.nz/get-involved" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://kiwisconnect.org.nz/get-involved</a>This may be the most critical choice and tipping point in NZ of the 21st <a href="http://Century.As" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Century.As</a> all the issues that concern us are integrated, we have to now take back our country.Because …While we are busy watching telly, we're losing the country to outside entities!  With so many people who were able to vote last election, less than 75% of the country actually voted.YES!, Our future especially our children and grandchildren's is at stake. NZer's have become far too complacent, docile and distracted whilst being self absorbed in 'other things' that we have found that our sovereignty has been eroded and our democracy sabotaged. Yet not only that, every move and utterance is being electronically tracked or recorded, by (an eye at the key hole) a gigantic global security apparatus - that whilst the lights were on, nobody was alert or home.This is correct, main stream media and worse, the Parliamentary press gallery have been caught with their pants down because they have got too cosy and lazy to do their due diligence.We have all been conned!Should the Govt pass the GCSB Bill over the next 10 days this rally could be the best time for us to let the Govt know that they have lost the faith of 'We The People'. We do not want to be spied on!