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Sollten Tiere Grundrechte haben wie Menschen? Saskia Stucki vs. Dag Encke

On this episode, we speak to Dr Saskia Stucki. Saskia is a Senior Research Fellow at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, Germany. Listeners may be familiar with her work in animal law and animal rights, though she also works on human rights, climate law, and environmental law. We discuss her paper ‘Animal Warfare Law and the Need for an Animal Law of Peace: A Comparative Reconstruction’, which is forthcoming the American Journal of Comparative Law. This episode is brought to you by AASA, the Australasian Animal Studies Association, which you can join today. Membership is very affordable! It is also brought to you by the Animal Publics book series, at Sydney University Press. Keep your eyes open for their latest releae, which is Australian Animal Law: Context and Critique, by Elizabeth Ellis.

On this episode, we speak to Dr Saskia Stucki. Saskia is a Senior Research Fellow at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, Germany. Listeners may be familiar with her work in animal law and animal rights, though she also works on human rights, climate law, and environmental law. We discuss her paper ‘Animal Warfare Law and the Need for an Animal Law of Peace: A Comparative Reconstruction’, which is forthcoming the American Journal of Comparative Law. This episode is brought to you by AASA, the Australasian Animal Studies Association, which you can join today. Membership is very affordable! It is also brought to you by the Animal Publics book series, at Sydney University Press. Keep your eyes open for their latest releae, which is Australian Animal Law: Context and Critique, by Elizabeth Ellis.

Episode 196: The animal law of peace with Saskia Stucki

Etliche Studien weisen darauf hin, dass viele Tiere eine ganze Bandbreite an Emotionen empfinden könnten. Ebenso gibt es Hinweise darauf, dass einige Tiere so etwas wie ein Bewusstsein haben könnten. Mit all diesen Hinweisen stellt sich die moralische Frage, ob wir in Zukunft anders mit Tieren umgehen sollten. Mit der Rechtswissenschaftlerin Dr. Saskia Stucki* sprechen wir darum darüber, ob Tiere Grundrechte erhalten sollten und wie so eine neuartige rechtliche Regulierung genau aussehen könnte.Timestamps &amp; QuellenBegrüßung und Einführung (00:00)Teil 1: Haben Tiere Emotionen (01:00)Erforschung von Tier-Emotionen (1, 2)Pessimismus bei BienenAngst: Spatzen-Eltern, Nager, Tiere in der SavanneStress: Tiere bei wissenschaftlichen Untersuchungen, gleiche Cortisolwerte bei Mensch und Hund, gleiche Cortisolwerte, wenn ein Baby weintSpaß: Mäuse, Erdmännchen, KrokodileNeid: Hunde, AffenTrauer: Orca-Mutter, Schimpansen, ElsterMitgefühl/Empathie: Ratten, andere Nager, Elefanten, Schweine, Hunde, Rhesus MakakenTeil 2: Haben Tiere ein Bewusstsein (14:08)ElsternSchimpansen (1, 2)DelfineElefantenTeil 3: Tierethik (15:55)Peter Singer: Animal LiberationTom Regan: The Case for Animal RightsTeil 4: Tierrechtliche Bestrebungen (20:17)Urteil Ecuador (1, 2)ArgentinienVolksentscheid in BaselTeil 5: Gespräch mit Dr. Saskia Stucki (24:03)Frau Dr. Saskia Stucki studierte Jura an der Universität Basel, wo sie 2015 mit Ihrer Arbeit zu Grundrechten für Tiere promovierte. Aus dieser Arbeit ging auch ein Buch hervor, welches 2016 veröffentlicht wurde. Derzeit ist Sie Referentin am Max-Planck-Institut für Ausländisches Öffentliches Recht und Völkerrecht in Heidelberg, forscht dort zu Tier- sowie Umwelt- und Klimarecht und arbeitet an Ihrer Habilitation zum Thema „Transformative Greenstreaming“. Daneben beschäftigt Sie sich mit diversen weiteren Projekten wie bspw. das bald erscheinende „Oxford Handbook of Global Animal Law“, welches Sie zusammen mit Frau Prof. Dr. Dr. Anne Peters herausgeben wird und das Buchprojekt „One Rights: Human and Animal Rights in the Anthropocene“, welches Sie bei Forschungsaufenthalten an der Harvard Law School entwickelte. Ebenso ist Sie Mitgründerin beim World Lawyers Pledge on Climate Action, welches es sich zur Aufgabe gemacht hat Aufmerksamkeit für Klima- und Umweltangelegenheiten in der Jura-Community zu erregen.

Etliche Studien weisen darauf hin, dass viele Tiere eine ganze Bandbreite an Emotionen empfinden könnten. Ebenso gibt es Hinweise darauf, dass einige Tiere so etwas wie ein Bewusstsein haben könnten. Mit all diesen Hinweisen stellt sich die moralische Frage, ob wir in Zukunft anders mit Tieren umgehen sollten. Mit der Rechtswissenschaftlerin Dr. Saskia Stucki* sprechen wir darum darüber, ob Tiere Grundrechte erhalten sollten und wie so eine neuartige rechtliche Regulierung genau aussehen könnte. Timestamps &amp; QuellenBegrüßung und Einführung (00:00)Teil 1: Haben Tiere Emotionen (01:00)<ul><li>Erforschung von Tier-Emotionen (<a href="https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/50/10/861/233998?login=false" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1</a>, <a href="https://www.wissenschaft-im-dialog.de/projekte/wieso/artikel/beitrag/wie-wird-untersucht-ob-tiere-aehnliche-emotionen-wie-wir-menschen-haben/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2</a>)</li><li><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21636277/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pessimismus bei Bienen</a></li><li>Angst: <a href="https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.2050?campaign=wolacceptedarticle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spatzen</a>-<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1210908" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Eltern</a>, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16500019/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nager</a>, <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ele.12832" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tiere in der Savanne</a></li><li>Stress: <a href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.1065.8577&amp;rep=rep1&amp;type=pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tiere bei wissenschaftlichen Untersuchungen</a>, <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-88201-y" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gleiche Cortisolwerte bei Mensch und Hund</a>, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25452080/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gleiche Cortisolwerte, wenn ein Baby weint</a></li><li>Spaß: <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0376635783900086" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mäuse</a>, <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347204004609" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Erdmännchen</a>, <a href="https://www.animalbehaviorandcognition.org/uploads/journals/5/04.Dinets_FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Krokodile</a></li><li>Neid: <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0094597" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hunde</a>, <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2017.00119/full" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Affen</a></li><li>Trauer: <a href="https://time.com/5363954/j35-killer-whale-calf/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Orca-Mutter</a>, <a href="https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(10)00145-4.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Schimpansen</a>, <a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/6392594/Magpies-feel-grief-and-hold-funerals.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elster</a></li><li>Mitgefühl/Empathie: <a href="https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/rats-show-empathy-too" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ratten</a>, <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3183383/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">andere Nager</a>, <a href="https://peerj.com/articles/278/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elefanten</a>, <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031938412003447?via%3Dihub=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Schweine</a>, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33090854/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hunde</a>, <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03342783" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rhesus</a> <a href="https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/ajp.121.6.584" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Makaken</a></li></ul> Teil 2: Haben Tiere ein Bewusstsein (14:08)<ul><li><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2517622/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elstern</a></li><li>Schimpansen (<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.167.3914.86" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1</a>, <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02381922" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2</a>)</li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20081013081149/http://earthtrust.org/delbook.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Delfine</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1636577/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elefanten</a></li></ul> Teil 3: Tierethik (15:55)<ul><li>Peter Singer: <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation._Die_Befreiung_der_Tiere" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Animal Liberation</a></li><li>Tom Regan: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_for_Animal_Rights" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Case for Animal Rights</a></li></ul> Teil 4: Tierrechtliche Bestrebungen (20:17)<ul><li>Urteil Ecuador (<a href="https://www.sciencealert.com/the-first-country-in-the-world-has-given-legal-rights-to-individual-wild-animals" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">1</a>, <a href="https://animal.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/Final-Judgment-Estrellita-w-Translation-Certification.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2</a>)</li><li><a href="https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/orang-utan-sandra-buenos-aires-1.4618638" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Argentinien</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/basel-grundrechte-fuer-tiere-ld.1581591" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Volksentscheid in Basel</a></li></ul> Teil 5: Gespräch mit Dr. Saskia Stucki (24:03)<a href="https://www.mpil.de/de/pub/institut/personen/wissenschaftlicher-bereich/sstucki.cfm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Frau Dr. Saskia Stucki</a> studierte Jura an der Universität Basel, wo sie 2015 mit Ihrer Arbeit zu Grundrechten für Tiere promovierte. Aus dieser Arbeit ging auch ein Buch hervor, welches 2016 veröffentlicht wurde. Derzeit ist Sie Referentin am Max-Planck-Institut für Ausländisches Öffentliches Recht und Völkerrecht in Heidelberg, forscht dort zu Tier- sowie Umwelt- und Klimarecht und arbeitet an Ihrer Habilitation zum Thema „Transformative Greenstreaming“. Daneben beschäftigt Sie sich mit diversen weiteren Projekten wie bspw. das bald erscheinende „Oxford Handbook of Global Animal Law“, welches Sie zusammen mit Frau Prof. Dr. Dr. Anne Peters herausgeben wird und das Buchprojekt „One Rights: Human and Animal Rights in the Anthropocene“, welches Sie bei Forschungsaufenthalten an der Harvard Law School entwickelte. Ebenso ist Sie Mitgründerin beim World Lawyers Pledge on Climate Action, welches es sich zur Aufgabe gemacht hat Aufmerksamkeit für Klima- und Umweltangelegenheiten in der Jura-Community zu erregen.

Grundrechte für Tiere? - mit Dr. Saskia Stucki

Claudia speaks to Saskia Stucki, who sees overlaps between International Humanitarian Law and Animal Welfare Law as providing fertile ground for legal conceptual development. Saskia Stucki believes ‘Animal Warfare Law’ offers a way forward for considering how animal welfare and animal rights could better complement one another. Date recorded: 6 May 2020Guest: Saskia Stucki is Senior Research Fellow at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, Germany. In 2018/2019, she was a visiting researcher at the Harvard Law School Animal Law &amp; Policy Program, where she worked on her two-year postdoctoral research project “Trilogy on a Legal Theory of Animal Rights” (funded by the Swiss National Science Foundation). She studied law at the University of Basel, Switzerland, where she also obtained her doctoral degree in 2015. The resulting book on “Fundamental Rights for Animals” (2016) won four awards, among other the biennial award of the Swiss Association for the Philosophy of Law and Social Philosophy. Her research interests include animal law and ethics, animal personhood and rights, legal animal studies and comparative animal welfare law, legal theory, human rights philosophy, international humanitarian law, and environmental law. You can find out more about Saskia and her work here. Host: Claudia Hirtenfelder is a PhD Candidate in Geography and Planning at Queen’s University and is currently undertaking her own research project that looks at the historical relationships between animals and cities. Contact Claudia via email (17ch38@queensu.ca) or follow her on Twitter (@ClaudiaFTowne).Featured readings:  The Humanization of Humanitarian Law by Theodor Meron; The War Against Animals by Dinesh Wadiwel; and Beyond Animal Welfare/Warfare Law: Humanizing the war on animals and the need for complementary animal rights by Saskia Stucki (forthcoming)Bed Music created by Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_)Podcast Logo created by Jeremy John (Website)Sponsored by Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics – A.P.P.L.E (Website) Part of iROAR, an Animals Podcasting Network and the CFRC Podcast NetworkA.P.P.L.E Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E)Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showThe Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of  iROAR Network. Find out more on our website. 

Claudia speaks to Saskia Stucki, who sees overlaps between International Humanitarian Law and Animal Welfare Law as providing fertile ground for legal conceptual development. Saskia Stucki believes ‘Animal Warfare Law’ offers a way forward for considering how animal welfare and animal rights could better complement one another. Date recorded: 6 May 2020Guest: Saskia Stucki is Senior Research Fellow at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, Germany. In 2018/2019, she was a visiting researcher at the Harvard Law School Animal Law &amp; Policy Program, where she worked on her two-year postdoctoral research project “Trilogy on a Legal Theory of Animal Rights” (funded by the Swiss National Science Foundation). She studied law at the University of Basel, Switzerland, where she also obtained her doctoral degree in 2015. The resulting book on “Fundamental Rights for Animals” (2016) won four awards, among other the biennial award of the Swiss Association for the Philosophy of Law and Social Philosophy. Her research interests include animal law and ethics, animal personhood and rights, legal animal studies and comparative animal welfare law, legal theory, human rights philosophy, international humanitarian law, and environmental law. You can find out more about Saskia and her work <a href="https://www.mpil.de/en/pub/institute/personnel/academic-staff/sstucki.cfm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a> Host: Claudia Hirtenfelder is a PhD Candidate in Geography and Planning at Queen’s University and is currently undertaking her own research project that looks at the historical relationships between animals and cities. Contact Claudia via email (<a href="mailto:17ch38@queensu.ca">17ch38@queensu.ca</a>) or follow her on Twitter (@ClaudiaFTowne).Featured readings: <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2555292?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Humanization of Humanitarian Law</a> by Theodor Meron; <a href="https://www.amazon.ca/War-Against-Animals-Dinesh-Wadiwel/dp/9004300414" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The War Against Animals </a>by Dinesh Wadiwel; and Beyond Animal Welfare/Warfare Law: Humanizing the war on animals and the need for complementary animal rights by Saskia Stucki (forthcoming)Bed Music created by Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_)Podcast Logo created by Jeremy John (<a href="http://www.jeremyjohn.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Website</a>)Sponsored by Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics – A.P.P.L.E (<a href="https://www.queensu.ca/philosophy/research-clusters/apple" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Website</a>) Part of<a href="https://iroarpod.com/join/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> iROAR</a>, an Animals Podcasting Network and the <a href="https://podcast.cfrc.ca/beyond-canada-international-thought-and-scholarship/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CFRC Podcast Network</a><a href="https://animalpolitics.queensu.ca/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A.P.P.L.E</a> Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. <a href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1246910/support" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>The Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of <a href="https://iroarpod.com/join/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> iROAR</a> Network. Find out more on <a href="https://www.theanimalturnpodcast.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">our website.</a>