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Mark Landes

Graceful Atheist Podcast

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My guest this week is Mark Landes, a former Army officer who is working toward becoming a humanist chaplain. Mark grew up in the United Methodist tradition. He went to West Point and became an officer in the Army. He wanted to become an Army chaplain. Mark’s army career is a fascinating tale in itself. He was stationed in West Berlin shortly before the fall of the Berlin Wall. Then during the Gulf War he volunteered to go to Kuwait and experienced the first air raid of the Gulf War. Mark was also a gay man in the military before the time of “don’t ask don’t tell” when there were witch hunts to remove gay military members. He was investigated and removed with an “other than honorable” discharge. Understandably, Mark went through time of deep depression. To make maters worse when he returned to the states he joined a 12 step group that was in effect a group conversion therapy. It is during this dark time of his life that Mark began to question the reality of god. Through a years long process Mark deconverted eventually admitting to himself he no longer believed. Mark has since become a humanist celebrant and has made an attempt to get a Masters in Divinity to become a humanist chaplain. In this process he began his “theological anthropology” which has led him to tell his story. He now wants to get a Masters in Pastoral care and is hoping to create an “institutional chaplaincy” in the business world. This humanist journey began with him asking the question, “how can I make the world a better place?” Links Mark’s Bloghttps://humanistchaplainjourney.blogspot.com/Captain Cassidyhttps://gracefulatheist.com/2019/10/17/captain-cassidy-roll-to-disbelieve/Sasha Saganhttps://gracefulatheist.com/2020/02/06/sasha-sagan-for-small-creatures-such-as-we/ Interact Full show notes https://gracefulatheist.com/2021/10/24/mark-landes-military-deconversion-and-humanism/ Deconversionhttps://gracefulatheist.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/Secular Gracehttps://gracefulatheist.com/2016/10/21/secular-grace/ Attribution "Waves" track written and produced by Makaih Beats https://makaihbeats.net/ Thanks to Logan Thomas for the new Graceful Atheist Podcast art work

My guest this week is Mark Landes, a former Army officer who is working toward becoming a humanist chaplain. Mark grew up in the United Methodist tradition. He went to West Point and became an officer in the Army. He wanted to become an Army chaplain. Mark’s army career is a fascinating tale in itself. He was stationed in West Berlin shortly before the fall of the Berlin Wall. Then during the Gulf War he volunteered to go to Kuwait and experienced the first air raid of the Gulf War. Mark was also a gay man in the military before the time of “don’t ask don’t tell” when there were witch hunts to remove gay military members. He was investigated and removed with an “other than honorable” discharge. Understandably, Mark went through time of deep depression. To make maters worse when he returned to the states he joined a 12 step group that was in effect a group conversion therapy. It is during this dark time of his life that Mark began to question the reality of god. Through a years long process Mark deconverted eventually admitting to himself he no longer believed. Mark has since become a humanist celebrant and has made an attempt to get a Masters in Divinity to become a humanist chaplain. In this process he began his “theological anthropology” which has led him to tell his story. He now wants to get a Masters in Pastoral care and is hoping to create an “institutional chaplaincy” in the business world. This humanist journey began with him asking the question, “how can I make the world a better place?” Links Mark’s Blog <a href="https://humanistchaplainjourney.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://humanistchaplainjourney.blogspot.com/</a><a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2019/10/17/captain-cassidy-roll-to-disbelieve/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Captain Cassidy</a> <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2019/10/17/captain-cassidy-roll-to-disbelieve/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://gracefulatheist.com/2019/10/17/captain-cassidy-roll-to-disbelieve/</a><a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2020/02/06/sasha-sagan-for-small-creatures-such-as-we/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Sasha Sagan</a> <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2020/02/06/sasha-sagan-for-small-creatures-such-as-we/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://gracefulatheist.com/2020/02/06/sasha-sagan-for-small-creatures-such-as-we/</a> Interact Full show notes <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2021/10/24/mark-landes-military-deconversion-and-humanism/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gracefulatheist.com/2021/10/24/mark-landes-military-deconversion-and-humanism/</a> <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/deconversion/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Deconversion</a> <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://gracefulatheist.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/</a><a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/secular-grace/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Secular Grace</a> <a href="https://gracefulatheist.com/2016/10/21/secular-grace/?gaid=gap94" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://gracefulatheist.com/2016/10/21/secular-grace/</a> Attribution "Waves" track written and produced by Makaih Beats <a href="https://makaihbeats.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://makaihbeats.net/</a> Thanks to Logan Thomas for the new Graceful Atheist Podcast art work

Mark Landes: Military, Deconversion and Humanism