Barry Fishman's guest appearances

Barry Fishman

The MoonshotEdu Show

SAP Experts Podcast

TeachLab with Justin Reich

Bryan Caplan

Geoffrey Canada

Paul Smith

Meira Levinson

David Price

Fred Rogers

Beverly Daniel Tatum

Geoff Scott

Esteban Kolsky

Nadine Strossen

Thomas Frey

Don Wettrick

Ned Johnson

Kevin Gannon

Mark Stevenson

OwlTail

Justin Reich is joined by Barry Fishman, professor of education and information at the University of Michigan where he studies the use of technology to support teacher learning,  video games as models for learning environments, and the role of education leaders in fostering classroom-level reform involving technology. Together they discuss the 50th Anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get? The Grading Game in American Education with Barry Fishman’s new introduction, as well as grading systems during the pandemic, “Gameful Learning”, and issues with grading in general.“Grades remove information from the system. Rather than me knowing what a learner has learned, I know that they have an A or a B or a C. What does that mean? It doesn't mean really anything at all, especially if it's a B or a C... And maybe you throw a curve in. That's even worse. Curves really remove information from the system, and they ration success. This is one of the worst problems with grading, I think, is that they were really designed for ranking and sorting. They were never designed to encourage learning.”  - Barry Fishman In this episode we’ll talk about:50th Anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get?What are the problems with grading?Pandemic grading systemsStudent autonomy and dealing with ambiguityCommon objections over Pass/FailAlternative forms of evaluationGameful Learning Resources and LinksLearn more about Barry Fishman and his work!Check out Wad-Ja-Get?: The Grading Game in American Education with a new introduction by Professor Barry Fishman!Check out Justin Reich’s book, Failure To Disrupt!Join our self-paced online edX course: Sorting Truth from Fiction: Civic Online ReasoningJoin our self-paced online edX course: Becoming a More Equitable Educator: Mindsets and Practices Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/barry-fishman/transcript Produced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley. Recorded and mixed by Garrett Beazley Follow TeachLab:FacebookTwitterYouTube

Justin Reich is joined by Barry Fishman, professor of education and information at the University of Michigan where he studies the use of technology to support teacher learning,  video games as models for learning environments, and the role of education leaders in fostering classroom-level reform involving technology. Together they discuss the 50th Anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get? The Grading Game in American Education with Barry Fishman’s new introduction, as well as grading systems during the pandemic, “Gameful Learning”, and issues with grading in general.“Grades remove information from the system. Rather than me knowing what a learner has learned, I know that they have an A or a B or a C. What does that mean? It doesn't mean really anything at all, especially if it's a B or a C... And maybe you throw a curve in. That's even worse. Curves really remove information from the system, and they ration success. This is one of the worst problems with grading, I think, is that they were really designed for ranking and sorting. They were never designed to encourage learning.”  - Barry Fishman In this episode we’ll talk about:<ul><li>50th Anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get?</li><li>What are the problems with grading?</li><li>Pandemic grading systems</li><li>Student autonomy and dealing with ambiguity</li><li>Common objections over Pass/Fail</li><li>Alternative forms of evaluation</li><li>Gameful Learning</li></ul> Resources and Links<a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~fishman/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Learn more about Barry Fishman and his work!</a><a href="https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/z316q358r" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Check out Wad-Ja-Get?: The Grading Game in American Education with a new introduction by Professor Barry Fishman!</a><a href="https://failuretodisrupt.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Check out Justin Reich’s book, Failure To Disrupt!</a><a href="https://www.edx.org/course/sorting-truth-from-fiction-civic-online-reasoning" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Join our self-paced online edX course: Sorting Truth from Fiction: Civic Online Reasoning</a><a href="http://bit.ly/TSLEquityE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Join our self-paced online edX course: Becoming a More Equitable Educator: Mindsets and Practices</a> Transcript<a href="https://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/barry-fishman/transcript" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/barry-fishman/transcript</a> Produced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley. Recorded and mixed by Garrett Beazley Follow TeachLab:<a href="http://facebook.com/TeachLabPodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a><a href="https://twitter.com/TeachLabPodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfzVImQvNXI3Km8Hthzc7yg?view_as=subscriber" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a>

Show Notes: Follow Akshi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshimohla/Follow Barry: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~fishman/ SAP S/4HANA Virtual Board Game: Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAuxPHipr0Request Your Free SAP S/4HANA Virtual Board Game Workshop here: https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/b09978baa41c477bbfca0a949a362012 Dr. Barry Fishman: GradeCraft: https://www.gradecraft.com/Free 50th anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get? The Grading Game in American Education (With a new introduction by Prof. Barry Fishman): https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/z316q358r

<h2>Show Notes:</h2> <ul><li>Follow Akshi: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshimohla/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshimohla/</a></li><li>Follow Barry: <a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~fishman/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~fishman/</a></li></ul> SAP S/4HANA Virtual Board Game: <ul><li>Trailer: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAuxPHipr0" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAuxPHipr0</a></li><li>Request Your Free SAP S/4HANA Virtual Board Game Workshop here: <a href="https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/b09978baa41c477bbfca0a949a362012" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/b09978baa41c477bbfca0a949a362012</a></li></ul> Dr. Barry Fishman: <ul><li>GradeCraft: <a href="https://www.gradecraft.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gradecraft.com/</a></li><li>Free 50th anniversary edition of Wad-Ja-Get? The Grading Game in American Education (With a new introduction by Prof. Barry Fishman): <a href="https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/z316q358r" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.fulcrum.org/concern/monographs/z316q358r</a></li></ul>

Episode 64: Gamified approach to Business Consulting – Dr. Barry Fishman

School is a game, but it is a terrible game. Join us in this interview with Dr. Barry Fishman as we explore how we can change or improve that game for the benefit of learners.

035 - Interview with Barry Fishman on Gameful Learning