Trevor Hough's guest appearances

Trevor Hough

LashCast

The Game of Teams

Edgy Ideas

Simon Western

Brigid Nossal

Stuart Lancaster

Amy Edmondson

Paul Lawrence

Sarah Hill

Michael Lindsay

John Hill

Marcia Reynolds

John Baldoni

David Clutterbuck

Ian Parker

Richard Claydon

Adrian Gostick

Peter Cosgrove

OwlTail

We love going to trade shows because you get to meet all sorts of interesting people and find new companies that love to challenge the status quo. We went to Cosmoprof in Vegas this summer and met Trevor Hough from Yottled while walking the floor.  When we first met, I wasn't too interested in what he was offering because I was thinking, "Do we really need another software booking company?"  But my opinion quickly changed when he told me they were providing a software booking service at no cost to the beauty professional. What? After talking to Trevor, we decided to give the software service a try ourselves, and we invited Trevor to come on our show. Much like Meet Tippy, Yottled is an innovative company that is trying to help beauty professionals make more money. We love introducing companies like Yottled to you and hope you look into giving the company a try. BTW...they'll be at LASHCON, so please stop by their booth, and they'll be more than glad to walk you through what they do. website: https://www.yottled.com/ANNOUNCEMENTS:⁣WE STILL HAVE A HANDFUL OF STANDARD BUSINESS TICKETS ON SALEIf you still want to come to the largest lash conference in the world this November 5-7 in Pasadena, CA, click on this link: https://bit.ly/3TvhuUPWe'd love to meet you in person at LashCon!LASHCON 2022 VIRTUAL TICKETS ARE ON SALE!We sold out all tickets for the live event, but you can still come virtually. GO TO www.thelashconference.com to get your virtual ticket today. It's only $297!If you have a ticket to LashCon we still have four upgrades you can purchase:- DAYone: Our one-day leadership and mastermind session - November 4th - Lash Booth Collective: An evening business course where you learn how to grow your business - November 4th- Lash Lab: 4 lash trainers teach 4 lash seminars that will change your lash game - November 5th- Salon Owner Breakfast: On Saturday we want to hang out and encourage our salon owner family - November 5thTUSSANEE'S LASH RETENTION AND STYLING COURSE        November 19-20 Boston   LINK: https://bit.ly/3A81gdj        December 3-4 Los Angeles  LINK: https://bit.ly/3njkUM6Our classes are up for sale on our website: www.lashcastproductions.comOr go to our IG page and look for the link in the bio.⁣JOIN OUR LASHCAST INSIDER CLUB:⁣⁣⁣Join the coolest club in the lash industry. You'll get discount codes to our webinars, trainings, LashCon, and our upcoming coaching program. ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Go here to sign up: https://bit.ly/3eG7RPT⁣⁣⁣IG: ⁣⁣⁣@lashcast@thelashconference.con⁣⁣⁣Join our free Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/lashcastpodcast/⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Contact Paul Luebbers: paul@lashcast.com

We love going to trade shows because you get to meet all sorts of interesting people and find new companies that love to challenge the status quo. We went to Cosmoprof in Vegas this summer and met Trevor Hough from Yottled while walking the floor. When we first met, I wasn't too interested in what he was offering because I was thinking, "Do we really need another software booking company?" But my opinion quickly changed when he told me they were providing a software booking service at no cost to the beauty professional. What? After talking to Trevor, we decided to give the software service a try ourselves, and we invited Trevor to come on our show. Much like Meet Tippy, Yottled is an innovative company that is trying to help beauty professionals make more money. We love introducing companies like Yottled to you and hope you look into giving the company a try. BTW...they'll be at LASHCON, so please stop by their booth, and they'll be more than glad to walk you through what they do. website: <a href="https://www.yottled.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.yottled.com/</a> ANNOUNCEMENTS:⁣ WE STILL HAVE A HANDFUL OF STANDARD BUSINESS TICKETS ON SALE If you still want to come to the largest lash conference in the world this November 5-7 in Pasadena, CA, click on this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3TvhuUP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3TvhuUP</a> We'd love to meet you in person at LashCon! LASHCON 2022 VIRTUAL TICKETS ARE ON SALE! We sold out all tickets for the live event, but you can still come virtually. GO TO <a href="http://www.thelashconference.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.thelashconference.com</a> to get your virtual ticket today. It's only $297! If you have a ticket to LashCon we still have four upgrades you can purchase: - DAYone: Our one-day leadership and mastermind session - November 4th - Lash Booth Collective: An evening business course where you learn how to grow your business - November 4th - Lash Lab: 4 lash trainers teach 4 lash seminars that will change your lash game - November 5th - Salon Owner Breakfast: On Saturday we want to hang out and encourage our salon owner family - November 5th TUSSANEE'S LASH RETENTION AND STYLING COURSE November 19-20 Boston LINK: <a href="https://bit.ly/3A81gdj" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3A81gdj</a> December 3-4 Los Angeles LINK: <a href="https://bit.ly/3njkUM6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3njkUM6</a> Our classes are up for sale on our website: <a href="http://www.lashcastproductions.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.lashcastproductions.com</a> Or go to our IG page and look for the link in the bio. ⁣JOIN OUR LASHCAST INSIDER CLUB:⁣⁣⁣ Join the coolest club in the lash industry. You'll get discount codes to our webinars, trainings, LashCon, and our upcoming coaching program. ⁣⁣⁣ ⁣⁣ Go here to sign up: <a href="https://bit.ly/3eG7RPT" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3eG7RPT</a> ⁣⁣⁣ IG: ⁣⁣⁣ @lashcast @thelashconference.con⁣⁣⁣ Join our free Facebook group: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/lashcastpodcast/⁣⁣⁣" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/groups/lashcastpodcast/⁣⁣⁣</a> ⁣⁣ Contact Paul Luebbers: paul@lashcast.com

257. Want Free Booking Software? Trevor Hough of Yottled Explains How His Company Can Deliver That

Ajit Menon

Introduction: Dr. Ajit Menon is a business psychologist and consultant and co-founder of Blacklight Advisory a specialist organisational consultancy to a diverse range of clients. Ajit is also faculty of the London School of Economics, Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust. He is also co-author with Trevor Hough of the book this podcast showcases; What lies beneath how organisations really work.  Trevor Hough is a clinical psychologist, executive coach, and organisational development consultant. Trevor is a self-confessed nomad, living all over the World furthering his interest in diverse cultural experiences. Trevor works with Ajit as a Principal Consultant at Blacklight Advisory outside of his own consultancy practice. Trevor’s great interest is in the outdoors especially the African Bush where he has recently trained as a field and trails guide.   Podcast Episode Summary Eight crafted stories about Organisational Life are illuminated in the book What Lies Beneath: How organisations really work, by the authors Trevor Hough and Ajit Menon. They show how problems of Culture, Succession, Transition &amp; Leadership Team Alignment are often masked by underlying and often unconscious emotions of fear, anxiety, envy, uncertainty and abandonment. The resulting defences of denial, blame, splitting, pairing and collusion blur the view of the “real” problem which needs to be solved by the client. Ajit and Trevor share how tricky this terrain can be in the eight stories they share in their book. The work of organisational development is complex and it serves a Coach/Consultant to not only be paired in the work but also to have regular supervision.   Points made over the episode  Ajit and Trevor share an interest &amp; history that could be described as nomadic  Important to appreciate difference in the many cultural contexts the work entails.  As an organisational consultant, working in and out of organisations all of the time it behoves the consultant to be able to sit “at the edge of the system” &amp; not collude by a desire to belong.  Ajit shares that one of the first question he &amp; Trevor often ask clients is “what else?” or What else is going on?  so as to resist the temptation to prematurely rush to solution  Clients are very rarely completely right and it takes considered contracting to scope a solution or potential solution to a presenting issue.  Problems lie at a human level even though we would like to think they are all technical Working with a client system is never just about the client alone,  it is about the consultant as well. What you bring, your views, the lens by which you see the world etc. are all played out.  The book while a slim product is full of depth in how it explores what lies beneath in an organisation and by what it evokes in the reader.  How can we as coaches and consultants impact and influence the system? Ajit and Trevor responded by saying often the coach has to be willing to use self as instrument and notice what is being evoked. The story about the client in the fashion house in Paris, explored later, is an example of such.  Question what draws you to do the work-looking beneath can often mean an uncomfortable enquiry.  A big part of the work is about understanding our own process. Awareness is key.  Peer supervision is not to be feared it is a different type of workout.  Supervision is about doing work on the work  The yearning by coaches to be liked is dangerous. Often Clients do not like what we have to say. That’s OK  Our role is asocial -we have to think about what is good for the client and not our ego.  Ajit &amp; Trevor are called into client systems to consider topics like, A CEO in Transition, Culture Change, Succession, Leadership Team Alignment and they are both apt to ask “If that is the answer why is coaching the solution? If team building is the solution what is the problem it can help address”  Inquiry is a positive intervention and can serve to illuminate some of the complexity up front.  Example of the story of Hong Kong where two founders purported to want to leave but in reality that was not the case and they returned  The work is tricky &amp; not easy to spot but with supervision and dialogue without attachment we can begin to see patterns, themes, dynamics -often you require the lens of an outsider to help you see how you might be colluding.  Another story with a private bank in London shows how speaking up and being straight with a client can still backfire.  The unsaid remains under the surface and it takes courage to speak the unsaid.  Trevor explores how at the end of an assignment the client was disappointed the client felt they had done all of the work. If you are injured by that as a consultant you are in danger. Clients often want to give you the “ball of fire” the problem for you to solve.  Our work is to encourage the client to put the “ball of fire” on the table and through inquiry be able to piece out what is going on.  The Drama Triangle is a useful concept to keep in mind when doing organisational consultancy and why supervision is important  Trevor explained repetition compulsion and how often it occurs. He told of a client in HR who kept moving between organisations and kept ending up working for Narcissists – “what is your story of origin?” “What are you trying to solve?” What are you thinking is going to be different this time?” are just some of the questions he asked instead of trying to solve the problem of working with Narcissists  The idea of helping a client build a great team might simply be feeding the fantasy a team is the ultimate concept. Question why you want or need a team. Teams are often an overvalued concept when a peer group set up might equally serve or do better Do we really appreciate what it is to get into a communal mindset? The story of Nairobi highlights these tensions.  What needs to be illuminated at the contracting stage to aid the work? Question why a client has chosen you. How you get into relationship will often predict how you will be in that system -what does the client desire? In order to have a clear focus of where the work really is,  it helps to ask; What is the problem you want to solve? What have you done so far? What keeps getting in the way?  The case in Paris resulted in Ajit and Trevor acting out the very dynamic being experienced by the client- strong presence and awareness coupled with peer supervision helped them see what was happening and how they needed to be with the client to explore their findings.  This example exemplifies the danger of working alone in a system. Meta perspective is crucial.  Important to start as  you mean to go on and to forever be authentic.   Resources shared   What Lies Beneath: How organisations really work by Ajit Menon &amp; Trevor Hough.  

Introduction: Dr. Ajit Menon is a business psychologist and consultant and co-founder of Blacklight Advisory a specialist organisational consultancy to a diverse range of clients. Ajit is also faculty of the London School of Economics, Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust. He is also co-author with Trevor Hough of the book this podcast showcases; What lies beneath how organisations really work.  Trevor Hough is a clinical psychologist, executive coach, and organisational development consultant. Trevor is a self-confessed nomad, living all over the World furthering his interest in diverse cultural experiences. Trevor works with Ajit as a Principal Consultant at Blacklight Advisory outside of his own consultancy practice. Trevor’s great interest is in the outdoors especially the African Bush where he has recently trained as a field and trails guide.   Podcast Episode Summary Eight crafted stories about Organisational Life are illuminated in the book What Lies Beneath: How organisations really work, by the authors Trevor Hough and Ajit Menon. They show how problems of Culture, Succession, Transition &amp; Leadership Team Alignment are often masked by underlying and often unconscious emotions of fear, anxiety, envy, uncertainty and abandonment. The resulting defences of denial, blame, splitting, pairing and collusion blur the view of the “real” problem which needs to be solved by the client. Ajit and Trevor share how tricky this terrain can be in the eight stories they share in their book. The work of organisational development is complex and it serves a Coach/Consultant to not only be paired in the work but also to have regular supervision.   Points made over the episode <ul> <li>Ajit and Trevor share an interest &amp; history that could be described as nomadic </li> <li>Important to appreciate difference in the many cultural contexts the work entails. </li> <li>As an organisational consultant, working in and out of organisations all of the time it behoves the consultant to be able to sit “at the edge of the system” &amp; not collude by a desire to belong. </li> <li>Ajit shares that one of the first question he &amp; Trevor often ask clients is “what else?” or What else is going on?  so as to resist the temptation to prematurely rush to solution </li> <li>Clients are very rarely completely right and it takes considered contracting to scope a solution or potential solution to a presenting issue. </li> <li>Problems lie at a human level even though we would like to think they are all technical</li> <li>Working with a client system is never just about the client alone,  it is about the consultant as well. What you bring, your views, the lens by which you see the world etc. are all played out. </li> <li>The book while a slim product is full of depth in how it explores what lies beneath in an organisation and by what it evokes in the reader. </li> <li>How can we as coaches and consultants impact and influence the system? Ajit and Trevor responded by saying often the coach has to be willing to use self as instrument and notice what is being evoked. The story about the client in the fashion house in Paris, explored later, is an example of such. </li> <li>Question what draws you to do the work-looking beneath can often mean an uncomfortable enquiry. </li> <li>A big part of the work is about understanding our own process. Awareness is key. </li> <li>Peer supervision is not to be feared it is a different type of workout. </li> <li>Supervision is about doing work on the work </li> <li>The yearning by coaches to be liked is dangerous. Often Clients do not like what we have to say. That’s OK </li> <li>Our role is asocial -we have to think about what is good for the client and not our ego. </li> <li>Ajit &amp; Trevor are called into client systems to consider topics like, A CEO in Transition, Culture Change, Succession, Leadership Team Alignment and they are both apt to ask “If that is the answer why is coaching the solution? If team building is the solution what is the problem it can help address” </li> <li>Inquiry is a positive intervention and can serve to illuminate some of the complexity up front. </li> <li>Example of the story of Hong Kong where two founders purported to want to leave but in reality that was not the case and they returned </li> <li>The work is tricky &amp; not easy to spot but with supervision and dialogue without attachment we can begin to see patterns, themes, dynamics -often you require the lens of an outsider to help you see how you might be colluding. </li> <li>Another story with a private bank in London shows how speaking up and being straight with a client can still backfire. </li> <li>The unsaid remains under the surface and it takes courage to speak the unsaid. </li> <li>Trevor explores how at the end of an assignment the client was disappointed the client felt they had done all of the work. If you are injured by that as a consultant you are in danger. Clients often want to give you the “ball of fire” the problem for you to solve. </li> <li>Our work is to encourage the client to put the “ball of fire” on the table and through inquiry be able to piece out what is going on. </li> <li>The Drama Triangle is a useful concept to keep in mind when doing organisational consultancy and why supervision is important </li> <li>Trevor explained repetition compulsion and how often it occurs. He told of a client in HR who kept moving between organisations and kept ending up working for Narcissists – “what is your story of origin?” “What are you trying to solve?” What are you thinking is going to be different this time?” are just some of the questions he asked instead of trying to solve the problem of working with Narcissists </li> <li>The idea of helping a client build a great team might simply be feeding the fantasy a team is the ultimate concept. Question why you want or need a team. Teams are often an overvalued concept when a peer group set up might equally serve or do better</li> <li>Do we really appreciate what it is to get into a communal mindset? The story of Nairobi highlights these tensions. </li> <li>What needs to be illuminated at the contracting stage to aid the work? Question why a client has chosen you. How you get into relationship will often predict how you will be in that system -what does the client desire?</li> <li>In order to have a clear focus of where the work really is,  it helps to ask; What is the problem you want to solve? What have you done so far? What keeps getting in the way? </li> <li>The case in Paris resulted in Ajit and Trevor acting out the very dynamic being experienced by the client- strong presence and awareness coupled with peer supervision helped them see what was happening and how they needed to be with the client to explore their findings. </li> <li>This example exemplifies the danger of working alone in a system. Meta perspective is crucial. </li> <li>Important to start as  you mean to go on and to forever be authentic. </li> </ul> Resources shared  <ul> <li>What Lies Beneath: How organisations really work by Ajit Menon &amp; Trevor Hough. </li> </ul>

What Lies Beneath: How Organisations Really Work with Ajit Menon & Trevor Hough

This conversation draws on Trevor's experience and passion of living in the Kruger National Park South Africa.  Trevor brings his coaching and therapeutic background to inform his consultancy and coaching at work.  Unusually he brings a particular edge to this organisational work that comes from his engagement with the natural world.  Trevor recently completed his 'tracker training" and shares how his experiences of vulnerability when confronting an angry bull elephant, can be translated to how we can use our vulnerability at work. Central to his thinking is what he has learnt in the bush about 'Situational Awareness', and how this insight is essential to the work of organisational coaches and leaders, if we are to lead system-change effectively.   Bio Trevor Hough is a Clinical psychologist, Analytic-Network Certified executive coach and organisation development consultant, previously he was an analytic psychotherapist. Trevor grew up as a nomad living all over the world and through this developed a keen interest in understanding diverse cultures. He consults to diverse global companies and has a particular interest in the finance sector. Outside of his consulting work Trevor’s great passion is being out in nature. He has trained as a field and trails guide in the African bush and is in his element when out tracking animals on foot. He has been living and working in the Greater Kruger National park since the beginning of the Covid-19 lockdown.

This conversation draws on Trevor's experience and passion of living in the Kruger National Park South Africa.  Trevor brings his coaching and therapeutic background to inform his consultancy and coaching at work.  Unusually he brings a particular edge to this organisational work that comes from his engagement with the natural world.  Trevor recently completed his 'tracker training" and shares how his experiences of vulnerability when confronting an angry bull elephant, can be translated to how we can use our vulnerability at work. Central to his thinking is what he has learnt in the bush about 'Situational Awareness', and how this insight is essential to the work of organisational coaches and leaders, if we are to lead system-change effectively.  Bio Trevor Hough is a Clinical psychologist, Analytic-Network Certified executive coach and organisation development consultant, previously he was an analytic psychotherapist. Trevor grew up as a nomad living all over the world and through this developed a keen interest in understanding diverse cultures. He consults to diverse global companies and has a particular interest in the finance sector. Outside of his consulting work Trevor’s great passion is being out in nature. He has trained as a field and trails guide in the African bush and is in his element when out tracking animals on foot. He has been living and working in the Greater Kruger National park since the beginning of the Covid-19 lockdown.

21: Learning with Elephants: Eco-Leadership in Practice with Trevor Hough